https://twitter.com/#!/PaulOBrien/status/128749954217951232
http://techie-buzz.com/mobile-news/htc-incredible-s-to-get-official-sense-3-0-update.html
"Like the Desire S software update, the software update for the Incredible S will bring with it Sense 3.0, along with its goodies like a 3D launcher, and a widget-izied lock screen. The Android version will also be bumped to 2.3.5, and will also bring Google Talk with video chatting capabilities to the handset."
How come no one have posted these links?
So, looks like HTC won't ignore the IncS owners! For now...
*edit*
(damn, just noticed someone posted this in another thread, but w/e, this way more ppl will see it!)
The question is when ....
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The question is when ....
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Read the twitter link from PaulOBrian.
"So Saga and Vivo (Desire S and Incredible S) have official Sense 3.0 builds now. "
If the builds are done, it shouldn't be long before they release it.
But then again, you never know with HTC. For me it seems like they're pretty slow at updating their phones...
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But then again, you never know with HTC. For me it seems like they're pretty slow at updating their phones...
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Better slow and solid, than fast and buggy
HTC gives the word SLOW another meaning.
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HTC gives the word SLOW another meaning.
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We're on gb, there are tons of phones that aren't even on that...
Htc are one of the best
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We're on gb, there are tons of phones that aren't even on that...
Htc are one of the best
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Agreed. I had the original Samsung Galaxy before the Incredible S. The updates from Samsung were buggy and slow to non-existent. That was what prompted me to move to HTC since they seemed much better.
So why does desire s have it and inc s doesn't? They are virtually the same.
And saying there are a lot of phones not having it is a non-sense argument. VIVO is not an old phone. So it is our right to expect better service
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So why does desire s have it and inc s doesn't? They are virtually the same.
And saying there are a lot of phones not having it is a non-sense argument. VIVO is not an old phone. So it is our right to expect better service
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Dude we have gb, and sense 3 is coming...
Quit your *****in.
What's nonsense is your incessant whining.
We will also get ics I'm sure.
Htc is one of the best for updates, if you're complaining about this then you probably just shouldn't own an Android phone.
As long as its quality, time is something that can be wait.
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As long as its quality, time is something that can be wait.
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Well, if they continue updating this rapidly we'll have cm9 before official sense 3.0 x)
Anyway, anyone who's gotten the update yet?
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As someone with 16000 S-On Im really glad to hear this .. as for the banter on HTC's speed or lack of for updates ... HTC builds are cranked out faster unofficial or official than any other phone models I own ... Normally I don't care much for official rollouts but as there's no s off working for me atm ,knowing that there is confirmed rollouts coming I'm quite happy to wait ... Definate worth waiting for solid n stable than quick n buggy fota...
Can't wait for this to hit, Mike will have a new base for his Android Revolution HD Rom.
Yes that's fantastic news. Hopefully with the new official Sense 3 ROM, more custom ROMS will be available for us IncS users instead of having devs and cooks port ROMs from other handsets. Perhaps soon we'll have more choice of custom sense ROMs! =)
Yeaa, can't wait. Hope they don't put the project on hold, because of the resources they need for ICS device updates.
Got bored of sense 2.1. The 3d launcher looks amazing.
Does anyone know if the dialer issue got fixed in 2.3.5?
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Id asked HTC and they replied that Incredible S would surely get a Sense 3.5 update but they didnt have exact schedule now
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That's their robot reply. Yes but no date.
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3.5? As far as I know they've only said we'll get the 3.0 update...
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3.5? As far as I know they've only said we'll get the 3.0 update...
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In fact sense 3.5 will use less system resources than sense 3.0 and thats why devices using MSN8255 can get this update
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Does anyone know the exact differences between Sense 3.0 and 3.5? I've tried both ROMs before and there a few UI changes (e.g the tick and the checkbox is different) and you can jump from dialer to contacts, favorites etc directly from the jog dial and the bottom.
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Hey guys,
Thanks to Paul O'Brien over at MoDaCo we now have a full system+recovery dump of the Galaxy Nexus running Ice Cream Sandwich.
http://android.modaco.com/page/news/_/android/04-nov-icl23d-galaxy-nexus-boot-recovery-r51
This is really cool.
Wow, hopefully now developers can create ICS inspired custom roms. Cheers!
there's like 10 of these over at the dhd section lol
No ... This is a system dump from the phone ... Not an SDK dump ... This good ...
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Also heard that ics will be coming to incredible s, but after a few months.
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Also heard that ics will be coming to incredible s, but after a few months.
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Where did you hear this?
These are the files you need to port a device. They need to be altered severely to run on the incs. Extreme development knowledge is needed to make use of this. However a developer could grab bits and pieces from it if they have greater knowledge in one area than another.
The ics update will be coming to this and many other htc devices as stated yesterday to myself in a bell store by an htc rep.
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but it won't come anytime this year, probably end of Q1 or Q2 2012.
talira said:
The ics update will be coming to this and many other htc devices as stated yesterday to myself in a bell store by an htc rep.
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i've learned to never trust and believe what HTC says. ICS? they haven't even brought Sense 3.0 to INC S
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i've learned to never trust and believe what HTC says
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this apply to other manufacturer
and just saw this @ engadget
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this apply to other manufacturer
and just saw this @ engadget
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As usual, doesn't have incredible s inside the namelist...
incredible s is abandoned already i think lol
if it comes to sensation xl, with has almost same specs, just better cpu, it will be for sure ported to incredible s (if htc doesn't release it officially)
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I don't recall it but there was a list on the net .
Just google it, from what I can recall there was HTC sensation,incredible s ,and others including sgs2 ect...
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http://m.intomobile.com/2011/11/07/htc-all-our-highend-phones-get-ice-cream-sandwich-updates/
Right now, it looks like HTC are dissing this phone after only 6 months since it was released...
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Anyway, is there anyone out there willing to give this a try? Would be really cool to try ICS out ^^
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http://m.intomobile.com/2011/11/07/htc-all-our-highend-phones-get-ice-cream-sandwich-updates/
Right now, it looks like HTC are dissing this phone after only 6 months since it was released...
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Anyway, is there anyone out there willing to give this a try? Would be really cool to try ICS out ^^
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You guys are reading into this way too much.
All they did was give a few obvious ones that would get the upgrade. They never said the rest of their products weren't.
What developers can do with this?
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You guys are reading into this way too much.
All they did was give a few obvious ones that would get the upgrade. They never said the rest of their products weren't.
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Let me quote myself:
"Right now[...]"
You see? I'm talking about what they've said so far, but what'll happen in the future; sorry, I can't tell and therefore I won't do anything else then hope that HTC will give us an official update to 4.0.
But from what Google said when they showed 4.0, I think that it'll come to the IncS. Sometime.
And to your last part; no, they didn't.
"We’re continuing to assess our product portfolio, so stay tuned for more updates on device upgrades, timing and other details about HTC and Ice Cream Sandwich."
From the same link that I linked in my previous post. So, I'm fully aware of the fact that this only seems to be a preliminary statement from HTC.
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Hells Yeah!!!!!
Great news! Are you gonna update this post as he updates his? Or should those who're interested just follow his thread?
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It is totally up to you.... lol... Some more screenies being added to the OP... enjoy....
Can you change the title to wip
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I've heard through the grape vine that sense 4.0 is rather vanilla as compared to sense 3.5. In that its more simplistic and has less animations. Anyone know if there is any truth to that? Either way, this is really exciting.
Could you provide a link to his forum?
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I've heard through the grape vine that sense 4.0 is rather vanilla as compared to sense 3.5. In that its more simplistic and has less animations. Anyone know if there is any truth to that? Either way, this is really exciting.
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Don't go by the pictures
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doktor buknasty said:
Could you provide a link to his forum?
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just search for Android Maisters Forum on google.......... GIYF....
Ohhh Very glad to see this! Heard sense 4.0 is supposed to be a lot less bloated than 3.0 / .5/ .6
Can't wait!
*whistle* beauty in one's hands.
Thank you very much for this!
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I just got a nexus and retired my Raider. I might have to pull it out when this is done, though. Great work!
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Don't go by the pictures
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I wasn't.... Like I said, I heard through the grapevine through friends that have diff HTC devices. I really don't know much about it. Do you have some info regarding what is included/excluded? I was told that a lot of the flashy animations were gone and its a more simplistic approach.
Awesome, I see it's a port of a Virtuous ROM. Always loved their work on other HTC devices; pretty much every Droid Incredible and Inspire owner that I know swears by them.
Thank you very much
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I've heard through the grape vine that sense 4.0 is rather vanilla as compared to sense 3.5. In that its more simplistic and has less animations. Anyone know if there is any truth to that? Either way, this is really exciting.
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Yes it's lighter, less animations, the clock flips and the weahter is animated but they have really cut back on a lot of the animations which in my opinion slowed sense down a lot.
It was published on Engad... That the vivid will get sense 4.0 and they quote ATT. Is the version we now have a test release? It sure feels finished.
If they release a 4.0 version officially it must rock them cause my vivid is actually flying... So I bet rafy will treat us to it first.
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Yes it's lighter, less animations, the clock flips and the weahter is animated but they have really cut back on a lot of the animations which in my opinion slowed sense down a lot.
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It was published on Engad... That the vivid will get sense 4.0 and they quote ATT. Is the version we now have a test release? It sure feels finished.
If they release a 4.0 version officially it must rock them cause my vivid is actually flying... So I bet rafy will treat us to it first.
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Great! Thanks fellas
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It was published on Engad... That the vivid will get sense 4.0 and they quote ATT. Is the version we now have a test release? It sure feels finished.
If they release a 4.0 version officially it must rock them cause my vivid is actually flying... So I bet rafy will treat us to it first.
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I'd much rather stay on an unbranded Virtuous offer than on ATT's bloated and tweaked crap.
Especially because I like an accurate representation of the network I'm connected to in my statusbar.
Is there any custom ICS roms? sorry for sounding stupid but I cant find any.
Seems like there are 2 available and the developers have moved away from xda. One is made by Pirateghost and called Rum Float: http://blog.androidninjas.com/rom-dev/htc-vivid/rum-float/
The other is made by WildChild and you have to register to see the vivid section here: http://www.wcxxperia-nce.com/
Anyone tried these custome ROMS?
Hey, has anyone tried these custome ROMS, I would like to get something without AT&T apps included......
wildchild has a generic one that has all the att stuff removed
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Hey, has anyone tried these custome ROMS, I would like to get something without AT&T apps included......
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both of them roms will get you no att bloatware...
i personally use wildchilds generic build as it has working wifi teathering
I have PG's Rum Float Beta4, updated from Beta2. No bloat and ofcourse rooted, really like it.
He has his own web site, if you search for Rum Float, it should pop up.
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both of them roms will get you no att bloatware...
i personally use wildchilds generic build as it has working wifi teathering
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I'm on the ATT build with working tethering.
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I'm on the ATT build with working tethering.
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sweet i guess you used the work around posted in his fourm and it worked
i just use his generic cuz it works right off the bat
Hi xda,
It would seem that I've jumped into this a little late, but what happened to make all the cooks leave xda and ignore the Vivid, Velocity etc.
Sorry but I've been away from xda for about 12 months while living in Blackberry-land.
I'd really like an ICS ROM for my Velocity without HTC's bastard 'Sense' bloatness.
Also - is getting root access to the Velocity as easy as it was for the HD2?
Cheers;
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Hi xda,
It would seem that I've jumped into this a little late, but what happened to make all the cooks leave xda and ignore the Vivid, Velocity etc.
Sorry but I've been away from xda for about 12 months while living in Blackberry-land.
I'd really like an ICS ROM for my Velocity without HTC's bastard 'Sense' bloatness.
Also - is getting root access to the Velocity as easy as it was for the HD2?
Cheers;
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CM9 port is being worked on. Check the dev thread. Other than that, there are Sense ICS ROM's available, just not many here.. at this point.
As far as what happened, no need to stir up bad memories Look through some of the threads from last month and you'll figure it out. In the mean time, follow the golden rule, and the rules of the forum, and maybe they'll start trickling back in
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CM9 port is being worked on. Check the dev thread. Other than that, there are Sense ICS ROM's available, just not many here.. at this point...
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I will be stuck to the Dev thread like glue today; sorry Council, there will be no IT movement today! The systems engineer just got a new toy
Everyone contribute and help test and get logcats in!
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... One is made by Pirateghost and called Rum Float: http://blog.androidninjas.com/rom-dev/htc-vivid/rum-float/...
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Is anyone able to upload a screenshot of this? I'd be really interested to know if there is a sense 3.5 or 3.6 running on top. If not - hells yeah PirateGhost! I hate Sense!!!
Cheers;
Sense 3.6
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I am using Wild Childs at&t build of ics. It is awesome! He did an outstanding job with the rom. Silky smooth, looks like stock without the bloat! Plus with the mods here in the forums like extended menu, signal icon changer, and some other mods you can't beat it. This phone rocks hard!
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Is anyone able to upload a screenshot of this? I'd be really interested to know if there is a sense 3.5 or 3.6 running on top. If not - hells yeah PirateGhost! I hate Sense!!!
Cheers;
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Then why an HTC? Just curious..
Because the majority of samsungs and other brands embarrass android and apple still feels outdated and something for social status?
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Then why an HTC? Just curious..
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IMO its the lesser of all evils. Every brand has their own "skin". So even if you prefer AOSP, you might as well get the brand with the best looking and best functioning skin. Of course there is the nexus phones, but those aren't for everyone.
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come at me bro said:
Because the majority of samsungs and other brands embarrass android and apple still feels outdated and something for social status?
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Agreed. I just don't know that I could talk myself into the investment of a device that runs software that I hated, with the possibility of not be able to change it. Granted there are things being worked on now (CM9), but let's be real, this phone was released in November and to this point we haven't seen anything Sense-less (for reasons beyond the dev's control - just got kernel source 10 days ago fcs), it would be very tough for me to buy the device at this point if I hated Sense . I don't know how long shayla's had theirs though...
Hi I just want to know if someone has any news from HTC or is following other device's thread and just want to share something that might be interesting to us. It's so sad that development is on hold for a while but let's hope that official ICS release will bring back activity of developers. We need them!
Update
Sense 3.6 with Android 4.0.4 WWE RUU is here http://d-h.st/7UC
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I read in the Evo 3D forum that they will be getting it in the second half of the year
And being a dual core phone, they would be before us?
Let's be wishful for a leak before next year
Wow really. That's not cool at all. Has anyone checked the ics custom roms?? I see it on YouTube everyday n am itching to try it out
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I guess they are just based off rumours though
Read this if you're interested
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=1596522
I have tried both sense and aosp ics, but I still keep coming back to sense 3.5 gingerbread, either affinity or trinity sensation xl.
Because there are some glitches, bugs and things not working, I will stay on gingerbread. And I like sense But the features and improvements in the ics roms look very promising, I liked sense 4 very much
Just make a nandroid backup and flash it, then go back to your backup when you are bored lol
I like to go back to a stable rom where everything works
I'm currently running IceCold Sandwich 7.2 and the truth is I'm in love with AOSP/AOKP ICS. Since I bought my IS I've been always a huge fan of Sense recently I flashed back one of Sense 3.5 roms but it's something that don't surprise me anymore. Given that I'll stick with AOSP until the day HTC decides to come out with something great for us.
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I think we will get the update in may or June.
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I think we will get the update in may or June.
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Like May or June next year?
Optus website says well recieve android 4.0 in June. That seems like pretty trustworthy source.
http://optus.custhelp.com/app/answers/detail/a_id/102
That are great news.
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Optus website says well recieve android 4.0 in June. That seems like pretty trustworthy source.
http://optus.custhelp.com/app/answers/detail/a_id/102
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All we can do is hope for it to be right.
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Optus website says well recieve android 4.0 in June. That seems like pretty trustworthy source.
ttp://optus.custhelp.com/app/answers/detail/a_id/102
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sweet find man
this is exactly what i was looking for
Andrew_han said:
Optus website says well recieve android 4.0 in June. That seems like pretty trustworthy source.
http://optus.custhelp.com/app/answers/detail/a_id/102
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Niceeee
Come on guys please show up with a leaked RUU
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Come on guys please show up with a leaked RUU
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Would be nice, but I've got my doubts about the leak so early. I mean, if ICS gets it's official release early June, 1,5 month before looks pretty early to me.
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Would be nice, but I've got my doubts about the leak so early. I mean, if ICS gets it's official release early June, 1,5 month before looks pretty early to me.
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How would anyone even get a leak anyway?
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Would be nice, but I've got my doubts about the leak so early. I mean, if ICS gets it's official release early June, 1,5 month before looks pretty early to me.
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How would anyone even get a leak anyway?
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It was nothing more than expectations and wishes. If it is going to come or not we can't predict. Leaks are leaks let's just wait and see how it goes.
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Update to ICS
But in the Russian support service HTC recently said that the update will be available in the second half of the year. I hope they are wrong.
Just wait for it, we know we'll get it so have a little patience
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Released in June, just in time for people to start wanting Jelly Bean. Go Google/HTC Go!
Nexx managed to compile kernel 3 for desire s (it still doesn't boot). Hope this will be helpful for us to have it soon.
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Hello guys, to me it's a great news; I'm sorry if it's a repost or a false hope...
Directly from HTC site: http://www.htc.com/www/help/android41faq/
What devices will not get Android 4.1?
We work hard to ensure each of our products has the optimal user experience and therefore some products will remain at their current version of Android. In general, devices with 512MB RAM or less will not be upgraded to Android 4.1. At present, these devices include the HTC One V and the HTC Desire C. As we identify other devices that will not be upgraded, we'll provide updated information.
It should be noted that upgrades are not the same thing as ongoing support. Devices not being upgraded to Android 4.1 will still get software improvements, security fixes, and technical support.
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even though our phone isn't one of the best seller, I'll hope with all my force for a JB release, but i bet that will take soo long, just thought about ICS for our phone...
Our death will come with the 'in general' bit
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I don't want to break your dreams or anything, but it took HTC almost a year to deliver the ICS update... it is also over 18 months since our phone was released, so HTC don't have to bring us anymore updates.
And as you said, this device wasn't that populare. It got stuck between the Desire HD and the Desire S.
You do the math on this one, I might be too pessimistic to think clearly. And wasn't the ICS update from HTC really, really, sluggish?
If you want official JB, get a new phone... hoping for this phone to get another update from HTC is like trying to talk some sense into fanatics...
Yes ICS made the phone real real slow, like a symbian one.
Maybe HTC won't do an update for IncS but maybe they do..DHD was far more popular than the IncS and it didn't had the ICS Update.
This is good news for the Desire X, and that means, port to us =)
Not looking good I think
http://www.htc.com/www/help/android41faq/
If they are "considering" the 4.1 update for other 2011 devices,
So if the Evo3D, rezound, sensation etc are being 'considered' then sorry but we don't really have much of a chance :-\
But please prove me wrong, that would make me definitely get another HTC device
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Not looking good I think
http://www.htc.com/www/help/android41faq/
If they are "considering" the 4.1 update for other 2011 devices,
So if the Evo3D, rezound, sensation etc are being 'considered' then sorry but we don't really have much of a chance :-\
But please prove me wrong, that would make me definitely get another HTC device
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It's not worth the time it'd take to prove you wrong...
don't put too much hope into it
Hardware is not a problem (custom JB work fine on my HIS) - new device sales is the reason.
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First of all, sense 4.1 isn't jellybean !!
Sense 4+ is jellybean. Anyways, I don't think we will ever get sense jellybean update from HTC.
But hopefully we will get a fully working jellybean built from source like cm10, ect...
To be exact there is cyan x already working great and has a few bugs but hell yea we can use it as a daily driver.
Project butter is working almost perfect (97%) on cyan x ROM. I can see a little lag from time to time but I am not complaining at all
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First of all, sense 4.1 isn't jellybean !!
Sense 4+ is jellybean.
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No offense... but... if my maths isn't all f*cked up, wouldn't "4+" include 4.1? Or have I missed something with how HTC have started to name their Sense-things?
Well, they actually called a new Sense version 4+. Anyway, Sense version doesn't have anything in connection to Android version, or at least it's name. It's just a stupid coinsidence that one of the latest version of Android (4.1) has the same number as one of the latest Sense versions (4.1) and there are no dependensies between them.
Or HTC does that with purpose to play with our brains...
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Or HTC does that with purpose to play with our brains...
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No offense... but... if my maths isn't all f*cked up, wouldn't "4+" include 4.1? Or have I missed something with how HTC have started to name their Sense-things?
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Lol mate
You have a point we should ask HTC then
Anyways all I know is that sense 4.1 isa ana ics upgrade for sense 4.0 and that sense 4+ is a jellybean based software
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