Hi everyone I want to know the performance of LG optimus black.
I m planning to buy it but I n confused in black n nexus s which one OS better as per gaming performance....
Optimus black is able to run samurai vengeance game ?
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yes, it can run samurai II
The Nexus S has a slightly newer GPU with SGX 540 while the Optimus Black has SGX 530. It can play samurai vengeance.
Motorola defy plus have 2 gb internal storage ,512 RAM n 1 gb Rom ....can anyone please clear this that which one is better defy plus or optimus black....? Thanks
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The Defy + has a TI OMAP 3620 Processor which is older than the Optimus Black* which has a TI OMAP 3630 but both 1GHz. It has the same GPU i think (PowerVR SGX530). Correct me if Im wrong. Optimus Black also has 2GB Internal Storage but 1GB* Usable. Also has 512MB Ram. Same 3G Download speed but a slightly slower upload speed on the Defy+. Same camera megapixels, bluetooth etc.
So I guess the Optimus Black is better... unless you want shockproof, water resistant etc.
if you want more support from devs then go for nexus S (i even think that ICS is coming up for it compared to LG black which is still stuck on froyo)..
anyways i liked the design of LG black and has gorilla glass compared to the oleophobic screen of nexus S..
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I am wondering if the LG OB hardware specs will be enough to have a fluid experience running ICS. Given that this device has only 512MB of RAM and a single core 1GHz CPU, do you guys think we could have an overall good experience running ICS (e.g. no lagging)? CPU IMO seems to be the least of the concerns, but what about the RAM capacity? I've read somewhere sometime ago that Google stated that any GB capable device, would run ICS with no issues, but I've also read in a forum that 512MB is the minimum required to run it so we might be on the edge. What do you guys think?
Important: This is not a thread to discuss whether or not LG will be pushing out the ICS update or when so let's try to be focused on the topic.
I am certain the Optimus Black has adequate hardware capabilities to handle ICS.
Apart from CPU and Ram, GPU is the next criteria for ICS which demand 2D acceleration to be handle by the GPU.
It is just up to LG / Cyanogenmod community to bring it to life.
it can handle...otherwise it wouldnt get the official update!
Keep one thing in mind that :
"Any device that can run Gingerbread can also run ICS" (according to google).
Its not possible when we have useless TouchWiz like Samsung bcoz it takes alot of RAM
I actually sold my Galaxy Tab when I heard that Samsung will not be releasing ICS for Galaxy S or Tab while it was only 9 months old !
So its useless to have a device that has no future support from manufacturer.
Millions of units of Galaxy Tab & Galaxy S were sold worldwide & Samsung embarrassed millions of user by just making excuses
Plus if mid-range Sony Ericsson phones can run ICS (via official update) then why now Optimus Black?
Come on guys it has 1GHz CPU.
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Come on guys it has 1GHz CPU.
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Well technically the Black doesn't have 1 Ghz processor, it's just factory overclocked to reach that.
As for ICS, I wouldn't expect the official update to be out until 2013
I think the OB can handle ICS very well.
If the GT540 (my old phone) is able to run ICS (still BETA but it works) then
i see no difficulty in running ICS on the OB.
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I think the OB can handle ICS very well.
If the GT540 (my old phone) is able to run ICS (still BETA but it works) then
i see no difficulty in running ICS on the OB.
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OB is certainly able to handle ICS since Nexus S is able to use 4.0 with the same specification to OB. (1GHz CPU, 512MB Ram, but more powerful GPU SGX540)
yes, Galaxy S has some full working ICS ports, also on Galaxy SL i9003, which has the same hardware as our OB, there are some devs working on ICS
Theoretically yes. But will there be a stable and usable ics rom is another question. I am pretty sure before that I would be with another newer phone already. Now let's enjoy gingerbread first.
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ICS needs 1ghz cpu & 512 mb gpu. the black has both. i don't know what will happen with the stock ics as it will have the lg bloatware & the optimus ui, but with AOSP projects and trees like cyanogenmod,i think it can not only run,but run very well on our black.
and btw, the black uses tiomap 3630 & cortex a8 combo, i think it's stock 1ghz and NOT factory overclocked. the 3610 chipset would have been overclocked 2 get 1ghz, not 3630.
My Nexus S runs ICS AOSP+ 4.0.3 + M4trix Kernel flawlessly & very smooth. I also can OB & NS have similar hardware configuration, so it must be supported! CM9 already on its way afaik
I think OB can handle it as LG stated it in their schedule of ICS upgrade for their optimus phones.
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i think it's stock 1ghz and NOT factory overclocked. the 3610 chipset would have been overclocked 2 get 1ghz, not 3630.
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If you peek at knzo's notes while developing his Nova, it is factory overclocked which it explains why the Black is never stable when overclocked to 1.2Ghz and above. Here's another android phone using the very same processor clocked at the stock speed: Defy.
Just to be clear I'm not sourgraping but CM9 may just be our only hope for ICS (at least ICS before the end of 2012).
Since there is an ICS Beta avaiable for the GT540 (600Mhz) i think the OB will do just fine
now who went on to tell you ics requires 1ghz and 512mb... google for android developer phones and you will be surprised at the minimum spec needed for ics... these are the phones on which fw are developed and it is required that fw runs on them smoothly... the minimum reqs are so low that even 600ghz 256mb can handle it...
ps:no gpu required too
Ricardo said that every device with 512 MB ram and more will be supported by CyanogenMod
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in regard to my previous post (2 posts up) current dev phone is htc magic with only 192mb ram (unlike the 288mb that aired the market) and 528mhz arm cpu so that means ics was developed and should run on it. The galaxy nexus is the advanced dev phone and that is a totally different matter. This means that black will be more than adequate to run ICS compared to the htc magic's specs... It would be lame to asume that google is developing towards the high end users as even as we speak 1ghz is starting to become the standard on market and still it isnt if you look at the low end devices that are released out there still... There will be still some time till 1ghz/512 ram are considered the standard (not by users but by companies that is) so it is safe to assume that you will be ok for quite some time with black (and me with o3d). Hell my kid's huawei joy (aka vodafone joy845) has beta versions of ICS running and it is th lamest phone I ever layed my hands on.
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If you peek at knzo's notes while developing his Nova, it is factory overclocked which it explains why the Black is never stable when overclocked to 1.2Ghz and above. Here's another android phone using the very same processor clocked at the stock speed: Defy.
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from wikipedia (emphasis added):
3630-800MHz(underclocked): Motorola Bravo, Motorola Defy;[6]
3630-1000MHz(Default Speed): Nokia N9, Nokia N950, Sony Ericsson Vivaz, Motorola Milestone 2,Motorola Cliq 2, Motorola Defy+, Palm Pre 2, Droid X, Droid 2, Archos 101, Archos 70, Archos 43, Archos 32, Archos 28, LG Optimus Black, LG Optimus bright L-07C, Samsung I9003 Galaxy S(C)L, SAMSUNG GALAXY 7 TAB (P1010) Wifi Only, LG-LU3000 Optimus Mach, Panasonic P-07C, Panasonic Sweety 003P
3630-1200MHz(overclocked): Motorola Droid 2 Global
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hi guys i was wondering the "lg optimus black " has a "ti omap 3630" and the lg optimus l7 has "Qualcomm MSM7227A"
people say that "ti omap 3630" is better than "Qualcomm MSM7227A" but the wiered thing when playing games like asphalt 7
the "Qualcomm MSM7227A" wins and doesnt lag like "ti omap 3630" in the optimus black why is that
Probably because of bad support from TexasInstruments, bad code from LG itself and so on. I never understood it myself, but TI support really is pretty much the worse, I have even seen. Without the proper and up to date drivers for a device, how should you be able to use its' full potential? At least, these are my thoughts about that topic...
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Probably because of bad support from TexasInstruments, bad code from LG itself and so on. I never understood it myself, but TI support really is pretty much the worse, I have even seen. Without the proper and up to date drivers for a device, how should you be able to use its' full potential? At least, these are my thoughts about that topic...
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agree , because we have a cortex a8 + a powervrsgx530 which should well ,, its same as the iphone 4 but with a bit less powerfull gpu
msm7227a have cortex-a5
cant record and play hd video
http://pdadb.net/index.php?m=cpu&id=a7227a&c=qualcomm_msm7227a
its less powerful than our cortex but it has better coding with the ics
from my experience, the ob is faster
the stock l7 even lags when playing where is my perry
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its less powerful than our cortex but it has better coding with the ics
from my experience, the ob is faster
the stock l7 even lags when playing where is my perry
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well , can u be sure that the ics for our optimus black will be better than gingerbread ??
normally ics with removed unnecessary apps would be faster than our existing gb
So will we be able to run Asphalt 7 that smooth?!
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=nx2xI9ofctQ
since the processor is better, yes
but i run asphalt 7 smooth on zeusv6.39
(now am on v7 but on oc its smooth)
i heard ics has better hardware acceleration
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since the processor is better, yes
but i run asphalt 7 smooth on zeusv6.39
(now am on v7 but on oc its smooth)
i heard ics has better hardware acceleration
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i hope the official ice cream sandwich would be better imconfident that lg will because lg is not that type of "several upgrades" company if u know what i mean ,, its just a simple equation. if its done the this would be perfect
better drivers + better system = awesome performance
lg has other phones to sell that's a reason why they might not update and also, they have opted for two updates as compared to other companies who provide only one
I want to play such a games like modern combat 4 , GTA Vice City etc. The atrix has more internl space and ram but hardware, speed wich.one is better
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The Atrix has a really great battery. I did think build quality was really good on bot devices. The Atrix was a need finger scan unlock what also unlock the phone when pressed that basically the power button. The screen is the same since but the Atrix uses a pentile display. I don't think it is a pretty looking then the 2x screen. Performance wise if u not gonna root the 2x and put a Rom on it, the Atrix will be way smoother faster and the way superior battery on the Atrix a huge 1920 mah is something to consider. Something u also should keep in mind is that the Atrix has only a 5 mega pixel camera.
So sum it up.
The Atrix probably is the better choice. But it cost more and has a weaker camera and a pentile display.
LG 2X better screen better camera 8 mega pixel. Weak battery (it will make u get annoyed fast) less Ram is also something to consider. LG Stock software horrible (it is just that bad) if u root the LG 2x it will be great but battery no matter what u do will be worse then on the Atrix period.
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There are extended batteries like 3500mah
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There are extended batteries like 3500mah
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Of course there are. If u wanna get an extended battery and most importantly root the 2x I would go with it over the Atrix. Even the stock ics that just came out for the 2x is just bad. So u should really root the 2x. And my gf has the 2x and she likes it a lot. Of course it is rooted with a different rom.
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Well I have a LG Optimus 2x since May 2011. And I can say that you can surely use it to play games for example gta vice city. But your battery would fall very quick so be careful and check your battery state. With full battery you can play games for more than 3 hours. :laugh:
Advantages of the two phones to play games:
Atrix: Better Battery
Optimus 2x: Cheaper Price
Thanks... i found one 6 months old 130€ + 16 gb sd card
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I think im gonna buy that one but maybe its gone already
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I have the possibility to exchange the Optimus black with Galaxy S i9000. What do you think,should I make the deal?
hhmmm....let me seee....
OB...............................................SGS
5MP + Flash.................................Just 5MP without flash
430 MB of RAM.............................380MB of RAM
SGX 530 GPU...............................SGX 540 GPU
Official ICS....................................No Official ICS
inly FEW active development..........Strong develoment and community
total score : 3 total score : 2
i know there is other factor to choose one of them....but actually, I like OB, camera and flash is my main priority(I have galaxy ace before OB, and I buy OB because of 720p videos), and plain offocial ICS with my own tweaks is enough for me.....
but ultra stable CM 9 & 10 and SGX 540 sound very appelaing to me....but 380MB RAM???? come on??!!!......actually, I am as confuse as you......
I'm considering the exchange because 3d games(GTA,Asphalt 7 etc) on OB don't work to smooth.I guess on Galaxy S I won't have problems ,because of the better gpu sgx540.
Lol... Samsung Galaxy S1 is a piece of sh*t.. I remember that I sent an app to my friend and his phone locked .. he had to remove the battery.. on my OB this never happened.
And OB has flash, S1 doesnt` have.
I just say NO .
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I'm considering the exchange because 3d games(GTA,Asphalt 7 etc) on OB don't work to smooth.I guess on Galaxy S I won't have problems ,because of the better gpu sgx540.
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the RAM, will not enough to play most HD games, just like OB
if you don't need camera flash, go for it
Ob is better...
But not in the development way...
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I want phone with powerful cpu and gpu with 2gb ram and having good developer support
Currently i searched
And found
Asus zenfone 5
Karbon titanium octane plus
Micromax nitro
Xiomi redmi 1s
Iberry auxus a1
But all have major issue of heating hanging no development so please suggest me guyz
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walpanmad said:
I want phone with powerful cpu and gpu with 2gb ram and having good developer support
Currently i searched
And found
Asus zenfone 5
Karbon titanium octane plus
Micromax nitro
Xiomi redmi 1s
Iberry auxus a1
But all have major issue of heating hanging no development so please suggest me guyz
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none at that price ...
yah you can get one of from your list but they will have certainly some issues so either accept them or increase your budget or reduce yr wish list.
simple understanding that if google sell it's nexus 5 at 28-30k with your requirement ... and google is one company which has lowest profit margin with highest specs... then how can you wish that all these "cheap product makers" can provide you those specs at less than half price ... so deal with that they surely comes with problems...
in my opinion f you don't want to increae budget go for moto G ... it don't have high specs which you wised but it's gr8 phone and no problem ...you won't regret ( PS: it doesn't come with gyrometer so No Photospehere )
Don't create thread for personal and not sgsa related Question we already have OT thread + Q&A thread
Go to G2
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Look for LG L90. Quad Core 1.2ghz processor. Android 4.4.2 KitKat.
I see noce development (for me its nice). I think he will get android L.
And he is olso really cheap.
But 1gb of ram.
walpanmad said:
I want phone with powerful cpu and gpu with 2gb ram and having good developer support
Currently i searched
And found
Asus zenfone 5
Karbon titanium octane plus
Micromax nitro
Xiomi redmi 1s
Iberry auxus a1
But all have major issue of heating hanging no development so please suggest me guyz
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jineshpatel30 said:
in my opinion f you don't want to increae budget go for moto G ... it don't have high specs which you wised but it's gr8 phone and no problem ...you won't regret ( PS: it doesn't come with gyrometer so No Photospehere )
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Just found that MOTO G (2014) have gyroscope also so photo-sphere will also work + Motorola conformed that it'll get Lollipop update... so now it's ultimate pack at that price:laugh:
Finally i gone with Panasonic eluga u in 15k because i just want 2gb ram phone wich really needs any android phone for reason of its performance and multitasking
2 gb ram 16 gb internal memory 32 gb expandable 1.2 quad-core snapdragon 400 processor with 305 adreno gpu 720 p hd ogs ips lcd screen with Android kitkat 4.4.2.
I don't know it's right decision to buy this one but i really feel power in my hand now all heavy apps running smoothly no lag no hang
So no need for development for this phone no update for lollipop is disapointing but when performance matters i don't need that
walpanmad said:
Finally i gone with Panasonic eluga u in 15k because i just want 2gb ram phone wich really needs any android phone for reason of its performance and multitasking
2 gb ram 16 gb internal memory 32 gb expandable 1.2 quad-core snapdragon 400 processor with 305 adreno gpu 720 p hd ogs ips lcd screen with Android kitkat 4.4.2.
I don't know it's right decision to buy this one but i really feel power in my hand now all heavy apps running smoothly no lag no hang
So no need for development for this phone no update for lollipop is disapointing but when performance matters i don't need that
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You should have gone to GALAXY GRAND PRIME its a 64 bit processor smartphone with snapdragon 410, maybe 64 bit processors are the future of android
64 bit processor grand prime cant able to play modern combat 4 and alsphat 8