I know this is probably a dumb question but... Hardware-wise will the OG droid/Telus Milestone be able to run Ice Cream Sandwich. If so will it ever actually see the light of day? I know with the release of the source code everybody and their uncle's cat's fleas are probably asking about their phones and ice cream sandwich but I'm simply curious.
Wondering that too
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here milestone ics. but still use gingerbread framework
http://galnetmiui.co.uk/landing/ics-builds/
Is this just built off of the sdk release or the actual source?
First off, its been mentioned that ICS could run in any device running gingerbread, and still most of them wont get it. Why you may ask?
Judging the history on carriers rolling out android updates, it almost never goes over 1 update in a phones lifetime.
Therefore it's very doubtful, so much that if I were stil using my milestone I wouldn't even get on my expectations.
PS: I'm running a Inspire 4g now, and we are in the same situation, HTC is rolling out updates to some devices, but Inspire is not in it, even tho it's still a high end device.
sorry
I'm not really expecting an "official" since it's long dead in the eyes of carriers. I'm looking more if the devs will do any work on it.
As soon as there's a ICS ROM for Droid please link it someone. Even if it's early alpha.
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Isn't too heavy in droid/milestone RAM ?
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I don't think it's too ram heavy. I read somewhere that any device that could run gingerbread can run ICS. There were ports of gingerbread to the milestone so.. shouldn't that mean ICS can run on it? I know MIUI has some ICS in it but.. It's not what I'm really looking for.
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how can you be so sure ?????
I'm not sure that's why I'm asking..
just waiting for further announcement...
The og Droid certainly has the ability to run android ice cream sandwich. That does not mean it will ever be able to run smoothly or well without a lot of tweaking.
rootfan is right. I've seen a video of the g1 running ice cream sandwich, not well, If that phone can run it, any phone should be able to..
The main problem is that Milestone has locked bootloader, and that leaves no chance to Milestone owners to run ICS on it (GOT-like trick launching Froyo on an Eclair kernel worked with GB on a Froyo kernel too, but ICS uses linux kernel v3.0 what makes this kind of porting EXTREMELY difficult).
Droid users have some chance though, since Droid bootloader is unlocked.
thks! now is clear to me
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The i9000 is a year old, (and still is the best android phone in most markets)
it came with android 2.1 , we got 2.2 , we will get 2.3 in , lets say about 1 month , wright when 2.4 will be released.
I think samsung will eventually release a 2.4 firmware maybe in june - july but then "ice cream" will be released
So what do you guys think , we will ever see "ice cream 3.x'' officially on the i9000 , or gingerbread will the the end of the line ?
Yes, i think we will, and if we dont, we will kick up a fuss and demand it from samsung lol
or we could just wait for someone to port it from another ROM, android hacking will never die !!!!
My guess is that 2.3, maybe with a patch or two, will be the last thing that Samsung does for the i9000. I don't think there is in their interest to support a phone older than 18 months, as they probably rely on statistics. And the statistics tells them that you and me probably have bought a new phone by then.
true i suppose.
If ice cream ever did come out for the SGS is probably wouldnt be for a while, and yea me and you probably would have a new phone, so we wouldnt be on the i9000 forums to find out if it was released.
but im happy with cyanogenMod, and as long as that always gets frequent updates, il stick to this til i get a new device
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Yes, i think we will, and if we dont, we will kick up a fuss and demand it from samsung lol
or we could just wait for someone to port it from another ROM, android hacking will never die !!!!
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Very True
Like any device the manufactures have to drop support from it at some point! I think we will see Android 2.3.3, which from ports does run smooth on this phone and then afterwards just the normal updates we see floating around for 2.2.1 etc..
Then again there are loads of adverts for the Galaxy S still on the TV so I suppose in reality we will just have to wait and see.
I really cant see us going to 2.4. I suppose someone like Darky or DOC might come up with a 2.4 ROM for the SGS in the future but who knows! I think at this stage I will be happy when a ROM comes out with fully functional 2.3.
What about the Galaxy S II. Is that a better phone than the I9000?
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I really cant see us going to 2.4. I suppose someone like Darky or DOC might come up with a 2.4 ROM for the SGS in the future but who knows! I think at this stage I will be happy when a ROM comes out with fully functional 2.3.
What about the Galaxy S II. Is that a better phone than the I9000?
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How could they?they aren't developers(afaik) they both need a rom as a base if sammy doesn't release one they can't mod it.
Since there is a cyanogenmod projekt for the sgs now we will propably get updates for a while because it is based in many parts on nexus s source.
So if you make the jump to cm you will propably (if they make it to the mainline) see ice cream or whatever the next updates are called
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I think it will...
At least it has the necessary hardware to run it!
I don't think samsung will give up on the phone that increased their market! I mean 10 million units is not exatly a couple of phones...
And at the end of the day they are nothing like LG Those sad faces are still wondering about 2.3 for their Optimus 2x
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I really cant see us going to 2.4. I suppose someone like Darky or DOC might come up with a 2.4 ROM for the SGS in the future but who knows! I think at this stage I will be happy when a ROM comes out with fully functional 2.3.
What about the Galaxy S II. Is that a better phone than the I9000?
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Its Not really Better just the graphik a little bit thats all
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I am beginnig to wonder if SGS really sucks that much compared to SGS2 or sensation maybe...
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Android 2.3.x is the last for Gingerbread going to be released for the i9000.
However, due to the large numbers of i9000 devices within the market, and still being sold, Samsung have no option but to release an upgrade to Ice-Cream Sandwich (Android 4.x.x).
There will be no 2.4 for Android, it goes straight to 4 (Ice-Cream Sandwich).
Because Android cannot sustain development for both 2.x.x and 3.x.x concurrently, it makes sense to release the "co-op" version for both smartphones and tablets.
Rumour has it, this version will be released end of October, first for Samsung Nexus Prime.
So November seems to be a good enough guess for the rest to follow suite.
Note: if you don't like waiting for upgrades in your country, and your device is already a year old, just install/flash a stock ROM released for a different country (closest to yours...check GSMA for technology standards if you're really worried). Also, if there is a big difference in GSMA standards, you can still flash a ROM of your choice and then use your current Modem, e.g. flash JVR update on your phone, then flash the modem for previous working version for your country.
I am from India and it's bleak in a way. The android bug hasn't really caught on here. We are severely crippled. We did not get an official Nexus. We got the Galaxy S II, the prices of GT9000 have dropped. But still no one goes for it. People here are still caught up in the iphone bug. I think Samsung will pull the plug soon to make their other phones sell.
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Will love if i get ice cream sandwhich update
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I am beginnig to wonder if SGS really sucks that much compared to SGS2 or sensation maybe...
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HTC phones blow for battery life and signal. (Take it from someone who has been down that road many times with different OS)
THE SGS2 is zippier with the processor and RAM, but goes through the battery faster.
Your best bet is really one of two options:
Keep the SGS and grab a Samsung Armani battery. Its 1650mah (same physical size as stock) which makes up for any custom fast kernal battery loss versus stock.
Or
Get a Motorola Atrix which has the power of the SGS2 minus the screen but at least has the battery.
Unless you can wait a little while longer and see the ICS phones coming this fall for even more options...
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Will it be ported over and have a good working rom or will our poor little droid just not be able to handle it?
Google says the requirements are about the same for Gingerbread, but from what I have read, Google says things like that even when the new version needs more.
I am sure someone will get it running and then tweak it to heck.
When the source is released to AOSP, I'm sure the CyanogenMod team will attempt a port. And if CM9 drops support for the D1, someone else will more than likely port it. If not, I might take a shot
I guess we'll find out when it hits AOSP, won't we?
Even if that means waiting until the first official ICS devices are out, I'm sure there's enough demand to get people to start a port.
OTOH, I'm not responsible if you die from holding your breath Even though I personally don't see a reason to upgrade hardware just to get ICS - which IMO is an evolutionary update - there's no guarantee you'll get D1 support on ICS even from this wonderful community.
I guess we're lucky we can run CyanogenMod at all... The future doesn't look bright for Motorola or Android, especially considering Microsoft's Android extortion campaign. Well crap, I'm getting off topic
We might get a CM port. However, I think some of the features are going to be stripped in order to prevent performance from hindering.
We going to get Ice cream dont worry cyano never failed to update stock phones and nexus one will get it without google too!
Word on the street is CM is going to start dropping more devices. Droid turned 2 and it's EOL now.
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We going to get Ice cream dont worry cyano never failed to update stock phones and nexus one will get it without google too!
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The Nexus One does have 2x the RAM our Droids do though, and the 1 Ghz Snapdragon
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The Nexus One does have 2x the RAM our Droids do though, and the 1 Ghz Snapdragon
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Yep, only reason it didn't get it officialy is because the phone doesn't have enough storage to hold the update without some hax
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Yep, only reason it didn't get it officialy is because the phone doesn't have enough storage to hold the update without some hax
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Oh...so, if our D1 does get an ICS port, does this mean it'll need an ext4? Like even for an AOSP
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Oh...so, if our D1 does get an ICS port, does this mean it'll need an ext4? Like even for an AOSP
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Probably :/
Damn! This sucks! I might just leave it on gingerbread, since I have an HD2 as my main device. However, most of the AOSP GB for the Droid are like 70 ish MB,[ like the .zip file] so maybe ICS won't be much larger if it's stripped down of unneccessary stuff. But then there might not be much internal space left for apps.... Ugh!
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Damn! This sucks! I might just leave it on gingerbread, since I have an HD2 as my main device. However, most of the AOSP GB for the Droid are like 70 ish MB,[ like the .zip file] so maybe ICS won't be much larger if it's stripped down of unneccessary stuff. But then there might not be much internal space left for apps.... Ugh!
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Yeh, but Link2SD takes care of that nicely.
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The GalnetMIUI team has already got ICS booting on the Milestone.
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The GalnetMIUI team has already got ICS booting on the Milestone.
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But not the Verizon Droid
@electrobeijing your right but the g1 and mytouch 3g have gingerbread on cyanogenmod 7 this year.
But i think the g1,mytouch 3g,Motorola cliq,htc tattoo and motorola cliq qt . wont get ice cream sandwich but cyanogenmod 9 will include droid 1 hopefully if it doesnt i have other phone that it will.
Anyone have a video of galnet miui on the milestone to see how well it runs?
Officially from Cyanogenmod team member
http://forum.cyanogenmod.com/topic/32701-ice-cream-sandwich/page__p__252875#entry252875
For those of you who are going to sit and wonder if your device will make the cut, here are two general requirements that must be satisfied:
1) Phone must have more than 256mb RAM
2) Phone must contain a decent gpu
Now, if your phone doesnt meet those, its not to say you will never get ICS; but it does mean your device will not be one of the first with CM9 (and your wait will likely be much much longer, if ever)
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Sorry guys
We all new this day was coming. I'm hoping for a release from the Liquid team [ Liquid Ice Cream Sandwich anyone? ]
Im sad but I cant say I wasn't expecting this, gingerbread is good enough for me for the moment until I can upgrade my phone
What do they mean by decent GPU. That are the list of GPUs that arent decent BTW
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Officially from Cyanogenmod team member
http://forum.cyanogenmod.com/topic/32701-ice-cream-sandwich/page__p__252875#entry252875
Sorry guys
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This shouldn't be new news to anyone considering the EOL for the D1 was pre Gingerbread.
There is a dev(cushzero) over at DF that is working on a D1 ICS rom.
Will it be perfect? Probably not.
Will it be usable? Maybe.
Do us D1 users need to upgrade? Absolutely!!
But this phone has exactly 256mb of ram .
I'm getting a Droid just to mess around within the upcoming week. I have dev experience in c++, and Java. I will certainly attempt to put cm9 on the Droid if no one else does.
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I'm getting a Droid just to mess around within the upcoming week. I have dev experience in c++, and Java. I will certainly attempt to put cm9 on the Droid if no one else does.
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I would test your builds if you need. I have a D1 but I have an HD2 as my main device so I'd be okay with potentially messing up the Droid
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I would test your builds if you need. I have a D1 but I have an HD2 as my main device so I'd be okay with potentially messing up the Droid
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Send me a pm. I will test as well. D1 is my backup phone too
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There is nothing to test yet. Cyanogenmod 9 does not even exist. once it is a reality, we can see what is possible. Im sure that someone else who is not me will do it for sure
Who ever posted this stop making rumor up the original droid have good GPU better than Nexus one and ram is the same as hd2 . Both hd 2 and nexus one have Port of Ice cream sandwich and if you want ice cream wait till January. Trust me cyanogenmod hasn't forgotten you guys.
Look if the g1 that 3 years ****ing year old can run ICS 4.0 os your phone can so be patient .
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?p=19649295
Very true. With a little work, the droid will be able to run ics. The only issue with it is ram, but besides that, the processor is just fine. The gpu is decent as well. The beginning of this post also says that your device must have 256 megabytes of ram. droid = 256 megabytes of ram
I am sure that someone is working on an aosp ics at this very moment.
your right the ram after 170 apps it will go on low memory i had my original droid running as many as 180 apps at one point . But ram keep going low to 0-10 mb but the performance was still amazing because the phone wasnt freezing like htc g1 on froyo. On stock roms droid 1 would easily have 130 mb of 256 mb that the phone comes with.
Google g1 was only stable with 2.1 os roms and 1 guy i forgot his name made a good froyo roms but took half of internal storage half of the g1 to make it work on stable rom.
But anywho the g1 isnt stable at gingerbread and it wont be either on ice cream sandwich u guys should be happy that Motorola did their job with this phone.
Enjoy Ice cream Sandwich
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Very true. With a little work, the droid will be able to run ics. The only issue with it is ram, but besides that, the processor is just fine. The gpu is decent as well. The beginning of this post also says that your device must have 256 megabytes of ram. droid = 256 megabytes of ram
I am sure that someone is working on an aosp ics at this very moment.
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Who ever posted this stop making rumor up the original droid have good GPU better than Nexus one and ram is the same as hd2 . Both hd 2 and nexus one have Port of Ice cream sandwich and if you want ice cream wait till January. Trust me cyanogenmod hasn't forgotten you guys.
Look if the g1 that 3 years ****ing year old can run ICS 4.0 os your phone can so be patient .
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?p=19649295
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************s 3 years old?
add119 said:
Who ever posted this stop making rumor up the original droid have good GPU better than Nexus one and ram is the same as hd2 . Both hd 2 and nexus one have Port of Ice cream sandwich and if you want ice cream wait till January. Trust me cyanogenmod hasn't forgotten you guys.
Look if the g1 that 3 years ****ing year old can run ICS 4.0 os your phone can so be patient .
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?p=19649295
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The Droid has 256 MB of RAM, the HD2 has 576...... That's not quite the same!
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This shouldn't be new news to anyone considering the EOL for the D1 was pre Gingerbread.
There is a dev(cushzero) over at DF that is working on a D1 ICS rom.
Will it be perfect? Probably not.
Will it be usable? Maybe.
Do us D1 users need to upgrade? Absolutely!!
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how do you know this? i don't see anything from him on DF that says he's working on it?
i sent him a pm asking if he is working on it i said that there is a romor going around that he is working on ics and his words where "said romor is true"
I see that's good since cyanogenmod just dropped this phone
Liberated X2
Remember guys, this is just the official CM team talking. There are plenty of un-official CM7 builds for phones they don't officially support. I doubt ICS on Droid 1 will be any different, if only because of how many Droid 1 devices are out there.
your right im wrong lol well htc hd 2 have similar specs to htc desire original from europe my bad.
anyone knows if the Inc S has a chance of gettin ICS ???
cuz after HTC releasin an update to sense 3.0 ... i'm starting to doubt it ..
I don't think anyone can tell you with certainty that we will or will not get the official ics update. personally, I think the chance is very slim. even if it does happen (again, very slim chance), it won't be for a while.
and this is why i'm grateful for our dev community. they are working hard on the ics alpha/beta and i'm sure it will soon be stable.
also, don't forget about cm9
Currently, the details surrounding ICS and it's availability on the IncS, are somewhat scarce. There is a chance we will be graced with an official build, but it's still ongoing.
In the meantime, check out this thread:
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=1384852
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You should be asking these questions in January since that's when HTC may start giving its newer phones upgrade to ICS... Till then no one knows who is getting what and when...
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Hello. I will be receiving a Droid 3 as a warranty replacement tomorrow. It comes with ICS (Ice Cream Sandwich) pre-installed. I have been searching, and cannot find a way to root the Droid 3.
I am hoping I missed it. If someone can point me to the tutorial for rooting the Droid 3 with ICS, I would greatly appreciate it.
Thanks in advance.
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Hello. I will be receiving a Droid 3 as a warranty replacement tomorrow. It comes with ICS (Ice Cream Sandwich) pre-installed. I have been searching, and cannot find a way to root the Droid 3.
I am hoping I missed it. If someone can point me to the tutorial for rooting the Droid 3 with ICS, I would greatly appreciate it.
Thanks in advance.
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Where did you hear it will come with ICS...? Because it won't.
I was told this by the Verizon rep. It is a warranty replacement. he specifically said it has ICS on it. No, I am not mistaken. Maybe he was?
Even if it doesn't, I have been unable to find a tutorial for rooting the Droid 3.
I can assure you that it will not be arriving with ICS, I'm sure he must have been mistaken. It will most likely be running Gingerbread 2.3.4 with the 5.6.890 system software.
Anywho... here is the tutorial you are looking for http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=1240130
If you do get one with ics on it then I will be calling Verizon and having them replace my phone for one like that
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If you do get one with ics on it then I will be calling Verizon and having them replace my phone for one like that
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If you get a phone w/ics system dump before anything else please, if you need a hand lots of people here will help (or on irc) but since moto still has the d3 listed as "evaluating" for ics and haven't even started working on a build I would say the rep is more than likely mistaken. Hopefully not but if moto had an ics build for the d3 I imagine we would have heard about a soak or something. As for your question I would probably try the root for d4 and if that didn't work check out what they're using on the nexus etc
If you do get ICS please tweet Hash. We really could benefit from it.
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We would still have a locked bootloader and the same kernel issues though. I'd put money on the rep being wrong, but I'd like to be proven wrong.
so what version of android did you end up getting on the d3?
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You folks were right. He was wrong. It has 2.3.4.
It runs pretty fast, compares well to the DX2. I wanted CM ROM on it, but none are completely working. Camera has issues GSM FCs and so forth. I just wish my DX2 would work. Haven't used a physical keyboard in a while either.
What do you folks think of your Droid 3s?
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What do you folks think of your Droid 3s?
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I bought my D3 FOR the keyboard. I came from an enV touch and the thought of a touchscreen keyboard that wasn't 100% perfect made me shiver. Looking back, I would definitely have gone with a SGS II. I didn't know anything about the D3's bootloader being locked and the full touch screen is definitely worth the unlocked bootloader. That being said, I still love the keyboard. It's better than any I have ever used.
I don't hate my Droid 3. It runs my ICS roms rather smoothly and the only thing that I wished worked is Google Chrome. I use the camera but I found that I have not wanted to use the video recorder since switching; even if it DID work.
If you want a CM ROM that is pretty stable, I'd recommend 7.2 found here http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=1308924
It's a bit more stable than CM9, though it still has some bugs. Stable enough for a daily driver in my opinion.
My d3 is alright but if I was sent one now with any option of sending back either for a different phone or terminate a contract(within 30 days or whatever and setup a new one) I would jump @ the chance, just because its a little old, 1g ram would be nice but imo it's like dual core phones, 1 core is wasted 90% of the time, upgradable to ics would be very nice too, custom kernel would be nicest though(htc,lg etc etc). I guess what I'm saying is its decent but I wouldn't buy one now.
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I'd say droid 3 is all about the keyboard. Without the keyboard, there would be many better phones. Phones with 1GB ram, unlocked bootloader and a better screen.
However, I'd rather have a keyboard than have those ^ things without a keyboard .
It seems to run faster, and more smooth than my Droid X2. It's ugly though, and it will take some getting used to a physical keyboard again. I have it rooted, radiocom hacked. I want to tweak the camera, but the thread is confusing me a bit as to which zip to use, or which edits to make to build.pro and the XML file. I would prefer to edit rather than install a zip as I don't really want a bootstrap on the phone.
App Brain is making me frustrated though, since Fast Web Installer will not log in.
So far, I am loving this.
Another heartbreak. If D3 doesn't gets ICS by July, I'll let it go.
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