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[Q] Honeycomb Performance Questions

For those brave souls using Honeycomb daily on their Nooks, what kind of tweaks are you doing to help with performance/compatibility?
Thanks in advance!
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I'd also like to know if there are tweaks you can do to makc HC stable/perfered for the nook, anyone using it full time?

If you already have it installed on the eMMC with an overclocked kernel you have done all you can do.
Honeycomb development pretty much died the day Google said that their was going to be no source code release. We might never see a "stable" Honeycomb for the Nook Color.
With that said, many people has been working on making Froyo and CM7 better in Honeycomb's absence. I personally think the Tablet Tweaks CM7 version is more useable than even the Honeycomb on a Xoom I tried (at least our SD card slots work), and for people who are DYING for Honeycomb there is the NookieComb which is Froyo hacked to act like Honeycomb.
Take a look at the development forum for more information.

you can turn off all transition animations to get a bit of a speed boost...also opera mobile is much faster (but not as nice) as the HC browser
im running it off emmc and its actually very stable for web/reading...video isnt great yet and there is a bit of UI lag but IMO very usable...

I thought Google said they just delayed the 3.0 release. I read into that that 3.0 is a disaster right now and they are still trying to make it a clean product. I think Ipad is scaring them and they are moving into overdrive at Google trying to get ahead (meaning 3.0 came out before it was really ready).

I totally agree. Google doesn't want to let a half baked product out the door when you know the ipad 2 will be stellar.
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swaaye said:
I thought Google said they just delayed the 3.0 release.
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The head developer of Android has said that AOSP won't be released until the phone features are merged, which means no code until Ice Cream.

So if the original ETA for Ice Cream was summer 2011, then I guess we see nothing until at least Christmas?
Meaning that Android tablets have been dealt a death blow for <b>another</b> year?
I am so glad for the independent developers working so hard at XDA.

xdabr said:
So if the original ETA for Ice Cream was summer 2011, then I guess we see nothing until at least Christmas?
Meaning that Android tablets have been dealt a death blow for <b>another</b> year?
I am so glad for the independent developers working so hard at XDA.
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i could be wrong but am pretty sure something will get 'leaked' before then....

I don't think Google minds -too- much that they are slowing down tablet development anyway. They've made it clear they want the "final solution" for tablets to be ChromeOS. Android for tablets is just a stop-gap measure.

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I don't think Google minds -too- much that they are slowing down tablet development anyway. They've made it clear they want the "final solution" for tablets to be ChromeOS. Android for tablets is just a stop-gap measure.
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When did google say this?
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Is there any advantage to the overclock kernel? I have the regular kernel running at 1100 with CPU Tuner (unless the overclock kernel comes in v2 by default)

Ice Cream Sandwich for O2X!

Not sure if everyone here has heard the news from Google's I/O, but they have announced that Google is setting a guideline for updates to phones, and many companies have agreed to give timely updates to their phones for at least 18 months from release.
LG is one of them so this is good news and will most likely mean that our phones will live to see an official Ice Cream Sandwich build

I would be getting it from CM regardless
Does anyone know whether this agreement is retroactive though? Might not include the *2X

First, LG agreed to that terms AFTER the O2X release, so that phone isn't concerned.
Second, they add "if hardware can follow", which is the magical sentence for manufacturer to explain why, finally there will be no update (even if that's total bullsh*t).
Bottom line is, nothing new, still the same.
But, it doen't mean we won't have ice cream Sandwich either
Let's hope for it.

Even though the news are good, Google making some pressure to manufacturers develop android updates, thing is that ice cream is said by Google to be released Q4 2011...hmph, how long for LG2X to have IC? Q2 2012?
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This phone is one of the most powerful devices as of now so they should do the Ice Cream if not we can make petition or wait for CM 8?
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Rusty! said:
I would be getting it from CM regardless
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Agreed. I wasn't a fan of the stock ROM at all. This all mighty phone, weak release of 2.2.
CM7 completely unleashed the inner beast of this phone.

Stekare said:
Agreed. I wasn't a fan of the stock ROM at all. This all mighty phone, weak release of 2.2.
CM7 completely unleashed the inner beast of this phone.
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I wouldn't go that far aha
That being said I haven't actually tried CM7, waiting for it to be a bit less buggy

I hope we'll get Ice Cream Sandwich. But let LG first bring Gingerbread to us all!

I am doing a noob question... i red about hardware problems of o2x getting ice cream sandwich. I mean that it seems ice cream rom is going to be very heavy, about 500 MB... so the ram available is not sufficient to run this OS... can someone confirm this problem?
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That's just stupid. Neither the Nexus One nor the Nexus S have more than 512mb of memory.

Mehrsau said:
That's just stupid. Neither the Nexus One nor the Nexus S have more than 512mb of memory.
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altough your second statement appears to be one of the most valid answers the question could have, your first statement was completely unnecessary.
thanks button pressed because of the second statement. Please users, work together in order to get an healthy environment here in the O2X thread

svceon said:
altough your second statement appears to be one of the most valid answers the question could have, your first statement was completely unnecessary.
thanks button pressed because of the second statement. Please users, work together in order to get an healthy environment here in the O2X thread
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You're right, sorry. I was just a bit upset about all the rumors trying to make this phone bad.

TsunKit said:
I wouldn't go that far aha
That being said I haven't actually tried CM7, waiting for it to be a bit less buggy
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You should go that far . New CM build is just awesome. I don't have any problem since build 18.

Elf89 said:
I am doing a noob question... i red about hardware problems of o2x getting ice cream sandwich. I mean that it seems ice cream rom is going to be very heavy, about 500 MB... so the ram available is not sufficient to run this OS... can someone confirm this problem?
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Well it would help if you knew the difference between RAM and internal storage before posting that.

Mehrsau said:
That's just stupid. Neither the Nexus One nor the Nexus S have more than 512mb of memory.
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It's not so stupid because this could be the excuse for LG to decide to stop ice cream on the 2x like they did with optimus chic: the 01 will be upgraded to gingerbread while the chic (that has similar hardware) will not. It's just commercial strategy.
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Rusty! said:
Well it would help if you knew the difference between RAM and internal storage before posting that.
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Yeah i know the difference but the OS is loaded during boot in to the ram isn't it? So how much free ram do you think are you going to find after booting the phone?
Anyway my personal opinion is that this prevision of how much heavy will be ice cream is for tablet's only... i hope phone's one will be smaller
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Mehrsau said:
You're right, sorry. I was just a bit upset about all the rumors trying to make this phone bad.
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I understand you. I encountered only once the freeze problem and that's all. No problem so far and i tried cm7 and modaco that make this phone incredibly faster. Anyway it's true there are a lot of problems but theese are going to be fixed by lg's software update and then by community. In Italy a lot of people are selling 2x at incredible low prices and i can't understand why...
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Elf89 said:
Yeah i know the difference but the OS is loaded during boot in to the ram isn't it?
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No more than Windows is on your PC
The Acer Iconia A100 is a Honeycomb tablet with 512MB RAM, so the *2X is gonna be fine.

Stekare said:
CM7 completely unleashed the inner beast of this phone.
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I'm a CM7 user as well, coming from Nexus S to Optimus 2x and I would say the same only after we got a stable mod. I'm using Nightly #23 right now and it's great... but far from a beast ATM. Let's remember about bluetooth audio problems, no HDMI, 1080p video recording or FM Radio for instance. Nightly CM7 it's already great, but there's a lot of little things to be fixed.
Unexperienced users should keep away for now, is called Nightly and experimental version after-all.

There is HDMI out

[Q]Worth buying now and rocking Cyanogenmod?

Hi guys,
Right now I have a Desire HD running Cyanogenmod and it is sweet but Optimus 2x is better hardware.
All I would like to know is Cyanogenmod stable enough on this phone to be a daily user yet?
Any show stopping bugs or things I should be aware of before I make a purchase?
I don't want to run the standard Lg rom, and the fact Cyanogen has one is 90% of the reason I want one. So should I buy now or wait a bit until there is a stable release?
Thanks for your opinions.
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Why buy a new phone when u got a desire HD. Stick to the desire and wait untill the nexus 3 will be released.
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I like it and would switch your DHD with an O2X, but its your call, not everyone likes this device.
Basically yes, CM7 is being used by a lot of people daily including me since build 0, and by arcee long before us all.
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I would say yes, since what's what I bought my O2X to do

K.D.M. said:
Why buy a new phone when u got a desire HD. Stick to the desire and wait untill the nexus 3 will be released.
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Definitely the best way, and dhd it's still a capable terminal and allows you to use all android potential right now
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O2x easy go for it..............

waste of money to switch unless you are that desperate to play HD games

I tried many devices and if u r a gamer. Ur option is only atrix and o2x. I went with o2x because the ips display and at that time atrix was locked.
U can get one noelw and enjoy it. Then by year end go with iPhone 5 or nexus 3. If ur not a gamer then get the gs2.
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I'm seriously considering the LG Optimus 2X as well. The prices of this phone recently came down in India. The only thing thats holding me back is the fact that it still sports Froyo as opposed to Gingerbread in similar speced devices. But I'm quite happy that Cyanogenmod has my back with a nightly for this phone
Should I make the switch from Samsung Galaxy SL i9003 (SLCD version) to the LG? The other phone that I'm considering is the Nexus S. How stable is the Cyanogenmod nightly?

anshulajain said:
I'm seriously considering the LG Optimus 2X as well. The prices of this phone recently came down in India. The only thing thats holding me back is the fact that it still sports Froyo as opposed to Gingerbread in similar speced devices. But I'm quite happy that Cyanogenmod has my back with a nightly for this phone
Should I make the switch from Samsung Galaxy SL i9003 (SLCD version) to the LG? The other phone that I'm considering is the Nexus S. How stable is the Cyanogenmod nightly?
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I would say go for it. The nightlies are very stable, and the O2X is actually going to be included in the 7.1.0 RC. Using the O2X on CM7 #56 for a while now, and performance, battery life and almost everything is working like a whiz. I have not actually encountered any major problems, such as the famous phone freeze. The phone is very snappy as well, and I don't see any reason why you should not make the change. =D

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I would say go for it. The nightlies are very stable, and the O2X is actually going to be included in the 7.1.0 RC. Using the O2X on CM7 #56 for a while now, and performance, battery life and almost everything is working like a whiz. I have not actually encountered any major problems, such as the famous phone freeze. The phone is very snappy as well, and I don't see any reason why you should not make the change. =D
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Gracias for your reply! Just another question- which custom ROM is preferable? Cyanogenmod or Modaco? Also, when is CM 7.1.0 RC gonna come out?

anshulajain said:
Gracias for your reply! Just another question- which custom ROM is preferable? Cyanogenmod or Modaco? Also, when is CM 7.1.0 RC gonna come out?
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I tried FR17 Fear edition before the CM nightlies, and I would say that CM, being CM, was much snappier than FR17, but it is entirely up to individual preference though. For the RC, cyanogen has personally posted on twitter that he was hoping for it to come out by this weekend, but no promises though.

One more (I know I'm asking too many...I apologize ) How does the O2X rate against the HTC Incredible S? Will the CM ROM+LG O2X perform better than the HTC ones? I do realize that HTC phones are single core...but have more RAM than the O2X.

o2x has a tegra 2 mate. In day to day usage there will be little to no difference but the o2x will destroy games.
Personally I've decided to wait until Christmas as further research has led me to believe that there isn't a great deal of benefit from being on dual cores at this stage. There is little to none apps which utilize them properly.
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anshulajain said:
One more (I know I'm asking too many...I apologize ) How does the O2X rate against the HTC Incredible S? Will the CM ROM+LG O2X perform better than the HTC ones? I do realize that HTC phones are single core...but have more RAM than the O2X.
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Hmm... It really depends on what you want with the phone. If its for gaming, then the O2X wins the Incredible S hands down due to Tegra. However, for daily normal tasks, both might be equally fast(not sure about this, haven't tried an Incredible S yet), as Android still does not fully support multi-threaded tasks, making the O2X's dual cores not being fully utilized. However, I think that in the near future, once dual-core support comes out in probably Ice Cream Sandwich, the difference between these two phones will be greater. About RAM, although the HTCs have more RAM, the O2X already has enough RAM as it is for about anything. So I don't really see why the bigger RAM will really matter.

Cool, thanks cha0sh3r0 & dr.m0x I'm not a gamer but a business user of Androids. So gaming performance is not a criteria for me. The reasons for going in for O2X are quite a few.
1. Its around 2000 Rs (45 USD) cheaper than the Incredible S.
2. It has Cyanogenmod support...Incredible S has a locked bootloader (which may change)
3. O2X has dual-core which future proofs me when Ice Cream Sandwich comes out...either as an official LG or Cyanogenmod release.
I'm done with Samsungs and their cheap plastic builds which I really hate. HTC phones seem to have some weird "death grip" issues. LG O2X seems like a good bet for me

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Cool, thanks cha0sh3r0 & dr.m0x I'm not a gamer but a business user of Androids. So gaming performance is not a criteria for me. The reasons for going in for O2X are quite a few.
1. Its around 2000 Rs (45 USD) cheaper than the Incredible S.
2. It has Cyanogenmod support...Incredible S has a locked bootloader (which may change)
3. O2X has dual-core which future proofs me when Ice Cream Sandwich comes out...either as an official LG or Cyanogenmod release.
I'm done with Samsungs and their cheap plastic builds which I really hate. HTC phones seem to have some weird "death grip" issues. LG O2X seems like a good bet for me
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No prob dude

I have more faith in the community to provide help and support as opposed to a company, thats why I'm glad that Cyanogen is around
Besides, being an exclusive Linux user (yes, even at work)...hacking and modding comes easy to me

Most of the comments here are spot on. But remember CM7 doesnt support BlueTooth and A2SD. That is a basic function and the only reason many of us use Madacos. Including me
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why do you need a2sd there is plent of room for apps especially if your not a gamer, I only worried about that on my desire that had 100mb

ICS on D1 ?

Will it be ported over and have a good working rom or will our poor little droid just not be able to handle it?

Google says the requirements are about the same for Gingerbread, but from what I have read, Google says things like that even when the new version needs more.
I am sure someone will get it running and then tweak it to heck.

When the source is released to AOSP, I'm sure the CyanogenMod team will attempt a port. And if CM9 drops support for the D1, someone else will more than likely port it. If not, I might take a shot
I guess we'll find out when it hits AOSP, won't we?
Even if that means waiting until the first official ICS devices are out, I'm sure there's enough demand to get people to start a port.
OTOH, I'm not responsible if you die from holding your breath Even though I personally don't see a reason to upgrade hardware just to get ICS - which IMO is an evolutionary update - there's no guarantee you'll get D1 support on ICS even from this wonderful community.
I guess we're lucky we can run CyanogenMod at all... The future doesn't look bright for Motorola or Android, especially considering Microsoft's Android extortion campaign. Well crap, I'm getting off topic

We might get a CM port. However, I think some of the features are going to be stripped in order to prevent performance from hindering.

We going to get Ice cream dont worry cyano never failed to update stock phones and nexus one will get it without google too!

Word on the street is CM is going to start dropping more devices. Droid turned 2 and it's EOL now.

add119 said:
We going to get Ice cream dont worry cyano never failed to update stock phones and nexus one will get it without google too!
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The Nexus One does have 2x the RAM our Droids do though, and the 1 Ghz Snapdragon

ElectroBeijing said:
The Nexus One does have 2x the RAM our Droids do though, and the 1 Ghz Snapdragon
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Yep, only reason it didn't get it officialy is because the phone doesn't have enough storage to hold the update without some hax

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Yep, only reason it didn't get it officialy is because the phone doesn't have enough storage to hold the update without some hax
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Oh...so, if our D1 does get an ICS port, does this mean it'll need an ext4? Like even for an AOSP

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Oh...so, if our D1 does get an ICS port, does this mean it'll need an ext4? Like even for an AOSP
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Probably :/

Damn! This sucks! I might just leave it on gingerbread, since I have an HD2 as my main device. However, most of the AOSP GB for the Droid are like 70 ish MB,[ like the .zip file] so maybe ICS won't be much larger if it's stripped down of unneccessary stuff. But then there might not be much internal space left for apps.... Ugh!

ElectroBeijing said:
Damn! This sucks! I might just leave it on gingerbread, since I have an HD2 as my main device. However, most of the AOSP GB for the Droid are like 70 ish MB,[ like the .zip file] so maybe ICS won't be much larger if it's stripped down of unneccessary stuff. But then there might not be much internal space left for apps.... Ugh!
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Yeh, but Link2SD takes care of that nicely.
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The GalnetMIUI team has already got ICS booting on the Milestone.
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The GalnetMIUI team has already got ICS booting on the Milestone.
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But not the Verizon Droid

@electrobeijing your right but the g1 and mytouch 3g have gingerbread on cyanogenmod 7 this year.
But i think the g1,mytouch 3g,Motorola cliq,htc tattoo and motorola cliq qt . wont get ice cream sandwich but cyanogenmod 9 will include droid 1 hopefully if it doesnt i have other phone that it will.

Anyone have a video of galnet miui on the milestone to see how well it runs?

[Q] OG droid/Telus Milestone + ICS = possible

I know this is probably a dumb question but... Hardware-wise will the OG droid/Telus Milestone be able to run Ice Cream Sandwich. If so will it ever actually see the light of day? I know with the release of the source code everybody and their uncle's cat's fleas are probably asking about their phones and ice cream sandwich but I'm simply curious.

Wondering that too
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here milestone ics. but still use gingerbread framework
http://galnetmiui.co.uk/landing/ics-builds/

Is this just built off of the sdk release or the actual source?

First off, its been mentioned that ICS could run in any device running gingerbread, and still most of them wont get it. Why you may ask?
Judging the history on carriers rolling out android updates, it almost never goes over 1 update in a phones lifetime.
Therefore it's very doubtful, so much that if I were stil using my milestone I wouldn't even get on my expectations.
PS: I'm running a Inspire 4g now, and we are in the same situation, HTC is rolling out updates to some devices, but Inspire is not in it, even tho it's still a high end device.
sorry

I'm not really expecting an "official" since it's long dead in the eyes of carriers. I'm looking more if the devs will do any work on it.

As soon as there's a ICS ROM for Droid please link it someone. Even if it's early alpha.
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Isn't too heavy in droid/milestone RAM ?
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I don't think it's too ram heavy. I read somewhere that any device that could run gingerbread can run ICS. There were ports of gingerbread to the milestone so.. shouldn't that mean ICS can run on it? I know MIUI has some ICS in it but.. It's not what I'm really looking for.
Ombra

how can you be so sure ?????

I'm not sure that's why I'm asking..

just waiting for further announcement...

The og Droid certainly has the ability to run android ice cream sandwich. That does not mean it will ever be able to run smoothly or well without a lot of tweaking.

rootfan is right. I've seen a video of the g1 running ice cream sandwich, not well, If that phone can run it, any phone should be able to..

The main problem is that Milestone has locked bootloader, and that leaves no chance to Milestone owners to run ICS on it (GOT-like trick launching Froyo on an Eclair kernel worked with GB on a Froyo kernel too, but ICS uses linux kernel v3.0 what makes this kind of porting EXTREMELY difficult).
Droid users have some chance though, since Droid bootloader is unlocked.

thks! now is clear to me