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HTC Incredible S’ Bootloader And Recovery Are Signed

bad news
read this : http://www.androidpolice.com/2011/0...s-bootloader-and-recovery-are-signed-as-well/

RIP HTC
Complete Fail. TT

That was one of the reasons i liked HTC, but signed recoverys are no go. If they keep this tactic, no more htc for me

JeckyllHavok said:
That was one of the reasons i liked HTC, but signed recoverys are no go. If they keep this tactic, no more htc for me
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Exactly.
I don't even understand why they would do this...do they not realize that there is a pretty decent amount of customers who buy their phones based on the fact they're completely open to customization?
I feel like this would hurt them more than it could ever help them.

It's coming home, it's coming, my Blackberry's coming home, it's coming home.
Sorry Android, sorry Google, but for me, RIM is better.

redank said:
bad news
read this : http://www.androidpolice.com/2011/0...s-bootloader-and-recovery-are-signed-as-well/
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Saw this as soon as I woke up this morning. Bad news indeed. Very disappointing.
Just one more reason not to get the Incredible S
derhannes1983 said:
It's coming home, it's coming, my Blackberry's coming home, it's coming home.
Sorry Android, sorry Google, but for me, RIM is better.
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I've been thinking the same thing.

There goes the only developer-friendly phone maker..

I guess that means we want see any root access/development/custom roms for the Incredible S.

Not neccessarily, as I've already posted in the rooting thread, this was already known about and hasn't stopped us yet. Please be patient and stop spreading FUD

Does this mean we will never see csutom roms, or does this mean we'll have to wait until it's cracked?

JeckyllHavok said:
That was one of the reasons i liked HTC, but signed recoverys are no go. If they keep this tactic, no more htc for me
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I Fully agree. It's a pitty HTC wants in on the control over my device game...

I also hate that they want to control our devices. My next device probably wont be an HTC anymore also, however i do like the fooling arround with my phone. id rather would have it rooted quite easily, but i dont hate it they require some manual actions, since it saves a lot of people from having malware on there phones, but hell.... this one is over the top.
Probably have the IS for the next 2 years, so got enough time to play with it haha.

@DaanJordaan
having a motorola milestone with a signature-locked bootloader i can say, that custom roms ARE available... the key-difference is, that the signature-checking bootloader only boots signed kernels. everything else can be replaced with custom-made files. as an exaple: CyanogenMod ist available for the milestone, but without the enhanced kernel.
which in essence means:
custom roms: yes
custom kernels: no
i don't know how big the difference betweet the moto-bootloader and the htc-bootloader is. but if it's somehow similar, custom roms without custom-kernels will work. which indeed sucks... but that's still better than no custom roms at all... let's just hope htc produces very well coded kernels...

I dont think its "HTC" who wants to control rhe device, i've heard its the carriers that are asking for the bootloader to be singed, so they dont have to replace a brick device someone tried ro hack,
Just be thankfull they only signed it and not encrypted it like motorola.
Sent from my Defy

Brumble said:
I dont think its "HTC" who wants to control rhe device, i've heard its the carriers that are asking for the bootloader to be singed, so they dont have to replace a brick device someone tried ro hack,
Just be thankfull they only signed it and not encrypted it like motorola.
Sent from my Defy
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That makes sense (no pun intended).
It's still not good news for the developer community though.

kaze06 said:
That makes sense (no pun intended).
It's still not good news for the developer community though.
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No it doesn't. Maybe in the US it does. I can buy a OEM Incredible S with no association with any carrier by paying full price, but seems like even these factory HTC devices are bootloader signed.

syl0n said:
No it doesn't. Maybe in the US it does. I can buy a OEM Incredible S with no association with any carrier by paying full price, but seems like even these factory HTC devices are bootloader signed.
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Its probably easier for HTC to just push all the incredible s's through the same production line.
Sent from my Defy

Don't stress on this. ~1hour after it was identified on the thunderbolt, it was bypassed.
Don't go returning phones or quitting android over this.

I hope it will get rooted, I have just sold my HTC Desire, and am looking either to get the Nexus S or this. I have every confidence in the Dev guys to crack it.
HTC really have done something silly, the only reason the Desire sold so well was because it could get rooted so easily and allowed people to do anything they liked to it!

If this info is confirmed then the LG Optimus 2X is the best new phone!
I like HTC but I am not a fanboy fanatic to limit Android to HTC devices

So,do you think sensation xl will run wp7?

I'm looking for a replacement for my trustworthy Hd2,and today was comparing some phones as I'm very inclined to the galaxy series,and actually realized that the sensation xl and the titan have very close specs,processor and GPU are the same,I was impressed by how close on hardware these phones are,with the right development and a good amount of luck this can be a hell of a phone..
Sent from my HTC HD2 using xda premium

Will the Sensation XL ever run WP7?
No. Not ever.

I really don't see why not. The hardware is there, all it needs is someone willing to to put in the time and work to get it to work on the sensation XL.
If I could find out how to port OS's I'd be working on them all the time.
If someone would be willing to show the process of porting OS's that would probably help the community out alot.

i remeber someone saying porting android wp7 on a hd2 was a stupid idea and look what happend so nothings impossible and theres a lot to learn from that but if im honest,theres a hell of a lot of work and time involved and an awefull lot of barriers to get through first,itle need a whole new bootloader to start with,at this moment in time it just doesnt seem a viable option and if you want wp7,your better off getting a Titan

The hardware is there. Like previously stated though it would take alot of time and effort to port WP7 to the sensation.

Planning to buy HTC One - Some questions :D

Hi People,
Finally I have decided to move on from my beloved HTC Incredible S which has been my companion for more than 2 years now and I chose HTC One to be its successor (Yeah I am a HTC Fanboy so my obvious choice was HTC itself). But there are couple of questions that I would like to get answers to before I zero in on it.
1. If I get a HTC One Sense Version, is it easy to install the Google Edition ROM on it? because I love switching roms often and like Latest Updates on my phone just to experience it
2. How is the future of this handset? I am asking it because, my Incredible S had begun with GingerBread and now with awesome developers, I can install KitKat in it too Thats a whole long journey on it.. Just wanted to know if the hardware and processor is future proof because after spending wholesome money on it, I dont want it to get stuck at kitkat
I checked the forum and found that there are whole lot of ROMs available for HTC One and I am excited to go for it. So any guidance here would be wonderful

1. Wouldn't say it was easy. Just be sure to do your research. Read all the relevant topics and so everything exactly as detailed. Here's just one of the many threads you should read.
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=2358781
2. Apparently stock sense will be supported until next major release 4.5 or 5.
Custom ROMs will go well beyond that I'm sure. Don't know where official gpe support will end.
Sent from my HTC O'ne-xus

mitchst2 said:
1. Wouldn't say it was easy. Just be sure to do your research. Read all the relevant topics and so everything exactly as detailed. Here's just one of the many threads you should read.
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=2358781
2. Apparently stock sense will be supported until next major release 4.5 or 5.
Custom ROMs will go well beyond that I'm sure. Don't know where official gpe support will end.
Sent from my HTC O'ne-xus
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Oh the Google Edition will be supported max till 2 updates eh? Didnt know that..
Also, why I was asking because, even if official souce code was stopped by HTC.. Devs had developed kernels from scratch and kept the In credible S Alive.. I would love the same happening here..
Any devs who can give info

Didn't say that. Said sense will be supported to either 4.5 or 5. Whichever comes first. I.e. one more big release.
GPE anyone know? Will it follow the nexus 18 month support?
Sent from my HTC O'ne-xus

hoa1 said:
Simply go for it... :fingers-crossed:
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He he, I love to Just some questions as I always love rom modding

Does anyone know how long will GPE be supported by google? Is it same as current nexus??

BTW, There is an Indian Variant of HTC One.. One which has Dual Sim and seems like Single SIM HTC Ones have stopped for no reason :/
Will the custom Firmware of this Single Sim Ones work on that?? Or there is a separate forum for that?

[Q] Switching phones

Hello xda,
I have a Galaxy S i9000, have had it for 2 years and played around with roms and modding; I am very familiar with this kind of stuff.
I am switching to a new phone soon, and it will definitely be an HTC phone, either a One or a One M8.
I originally thought of getting the 2013 One to save some money, but I was wondering if the performance is good on custom roms like cm11, pa 4.2 etc. (sorry if it is a really obvious question to you ppl, I have a phone with a single core 1ghz processor and cm11 is sooo laggy)
Another question, if i get the HTC one 2013, I will definitely get S Off with revone on it. can anyone tell me if there is a command to revert it back to S On after getting S off?
Cheers and thanks,
George
Edit: Please don't say anything about my Nexus 5, it is my 'hacking' device, where I do random $%#@ to it. I dont use it for daily use, only for rom testing etc etc. I know its weird, but I want an HTC for my daily driver

GHE_1908 said:
Hello xda,
I have a Galaxy S i9000, have had it for 2 years and played around with roms and modding; I am very familiar with this kind of stuff.
I am switching to a new phone soon, and it will definitely be an HTC phone, either a One or a One M8.
I originally thought of getting the 2013 One to save some money, but I was wondering if the performance is good on custom roms like cm11, pa 4.2 etc. (sorry if it is a really obvious question to you ppl, I have a phone with a single core 1ghz processor and cm11 is sooo laggy)
Another question, if i get the HTC one 2013, I will definitely get S Off with revone on it. can anyone tell me if there is a command to revert it back to S On after getting S off?
Cheers and thanks,
George
Edit: Please don't say anything about my Nexus 5, it is my 'hacking' device, where I do random $%#@ to it. I dont use it for daily use, only for rom testing etc etc. I know its weird, but I want an HTC for my daily driver
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Okay I am not sure that htc one can be reverted to s-on back but i saw somewhere that there are modded bootloaders and they read s-on and locked even if you are s-off and have a unlocked bootloader.
Sent from my Nokia 3315.

HTC One or Note 2?

Hey guys,
Im buying a new phone soon. Idk what to buy tbh. All i need is a lagfree, long battery life phone and it shouldn't be easy to brick.
My heart actually goes for the Note 2 at first. But I realised that the HTC One is so much better with built quality and then BoomSound speakers is neat. But the cons are that, from this QA thread, there are lots of bricked, stucked etc stuff goin on So im not sure which to guy.
Via the Internet

TiTAN-O-One said:
Hey guys,
Im buying a new phone soon. Idk what to buy tbh. All i need is a lagfree, long battery life phone and it shouldn't be easy to brick.
My heart actually goes for the Note 2 at first. But I realised that the HTC One is so much better with built quality and then BoomSound speakers is neat. But the cons are that, from this QA thread, there are lots of bricked, stucked etc stuff goin on So im not sure which to guy.
Via the Internet
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I think that you need to buy HTC One. I used Note 2 for about 1 month, and then exchange for HTC One. And i am satisfied with One. Great speed, battery lasts 2 days maybe with turn on WiFi. If u want bigger phone, then pick Note 2.

TiTAN-O-One said:
Hey guys,
Im buying a new phone soon. Idk what to buy tbh. All i need is a lagfree, long battery life phone and it shouldn't be easy to brick.
My heart actually goes for the Note 2 at first. But I realised that the HTC One is so much better with built quality and then BoomSound speakers is neat. But the cons are that, from this QA thread, there are lots of bricked, stucked etc stuff goin on So im not sure which to guy.
Via the Internet
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unfortunately, device comparison thread are not allowed here. If you are not sure which device is the best for you, you can ask in this thread: http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=1846277
never mind, looks like the forum rules have changed and this type of discussion is now allowed.
And btw, most of the time when a phone is bricked its 99% caused by the user doing something wrong like flashing incompatible stuff and playing with s-off when they don't understand what they are doing. Same thing apply for every brand of phones, before modding it, make sure you know what you are doing. Amount of "my phone is bricked" threads is not representative of the phone quality imo.
Good luck

buy the HTC one and run on sense 5.5 for Max battery life and performance