I'm looking for a replacement for my trustworthy Hd2,and today was comparing some phones as I'm very inclined to the galaxy series,and actually realized that the sensation xl and the titan have very close specs,processor and GPU are the same,I was impressed by how close on hardware these phones are,with the right development and a good amount of luck this can be a hell of a phone..
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Will the Sensation XL ever run WP7?
No. Not ever.
I really don't see why not. The hardware is there, all it needs is someone willing to to put in the time and work to get it to work on the sensation XL.
If I could find out how to port OS's I'd be working on them all the time.
If someone would be willing to show the process of porting OS's that would probably help the community out alot.
i remeber someone saying porting android wp7 on a hd2 was a stupid idea and look what happend so nothings impossible and theres a lot to learn from that but if im honest,theres a hell of a lot of work and time involved and an awefull lot of barriers to get through first,itle need a whole new bootloader to start with,at this moment in time it just doesnt seem a viable option and if you want wp7,your better off getting a Titan
The hardware is there. Like previously stated though it would take alot of time and effort to port WP7 to the sensation.
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Hey, I'm starting a think tank to see if we can get an HTC Sense port started for the Vibrant.
This would be very hard to do, considering the lack of drivers and such, but it might be possible.
considering how long it took and they still never could get it to work on the original droid....highly doubtful
I love it when people create think tanks but contribute nothing....it's just a hey, wouldn't it be cool if we do this? and belongs in General Chat
actually there was a succesful port to the droid but you are right there are multiple threads about sense and the chances of it happening are very slim. devs do what THEY want to do not what other people do.
igm503 said:
actually there was a succesful port to the droid but you are right there are multiple threads about sense and the chances of it happening are very slim. devs do what THEY want to do not what other people do.
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thought it was still really really buggy?
yeah let's think tank about what an atrocity it would be to bring that abomination over...
G1 was probably the most developed phone... and there were about 100 threads shooting down Sense on the G1... it requires so much work... that its pretty pointless.. especially concidering a good amount of the widgets have been recreated... etc etc
What about it requires so much work? As a person with no programming experience what so ever, I have trouble understanding why what seems like mostly a different interface has so much trouble running on hardware that is clearly powerful enough to run it.
Just an honest question.
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What about it requires so much work? As a person with no programming experience what so ever, I have trouble understanding why what seems like mostly a different interface has so much trouble running on hardware that is clearly powerful enough to run it.
Just an honest question.
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you need to port the entire senseui framework over, not just the widgets
For starters most of the phones that Sense has been ported to are HTC phones that come with out it, there are exceptions though, HTC, makes Sense so stands to reason it would be easier to port to an HTC phone, as the tools support them.
Second, unlike porting Opensource items and OS's to other phones, HTC Sense is proprietary and licensed only for HTC phones, so it is not a grey area of porting, it is just illegal to port it.
The Sense UI is more than just a "Home Replacement" like ADW , Launcher Pro and even TouchWiz, it really ties in a lot deeper with the OS.
good going to de-rail the noob...
i use launcher pro plus and a scene dock its not the same but close enough since lp pro widgets are close to sense widgets it works ok
Not to mention having to build a kernel that supports sense
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Only thing it is holding me back because it isn't popular phone so I might don't have much of support or any help for rooting, hardware issue or anything like that. I could just save $150 and go for HTC Desire, but I like 8mpx, front camera and the screen on HTC Incredible S. I like HTC Desire because it is quite popular and it has a lot of support, but Incredible S sounds and look much cooler.
Also excuse me for posting in wrong section, I couldn't find a correct section for general discussion of android phone (hardware).
EDIT: I posted this thread in both section Desire and Incredible S for unbiased opinion.
Of course it's a good idea, because that's exactly what i just did
The screens better on the IS, just search on youtube. Better contrast and colour rendition.
Got nothing against the size of the HD, i might sell and buy a Sensation when released.
If you're on about the original Desire, it just now looks so outdated IMO.
I wouldn't consider Desire s, heard one to many nightmare stories of wifi dropouts.
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Of course it's a good idea, because that's exactly what i just did
The screens better on the IS, just search on youtube. Better contrast and colour rendition.
Got nothing against the size of the HD, i might sell and buy a Sensation when released.
If you're on about the original Desire, it just now looks so outdated IMO.
I wouldn't consider Desire s, heard one to many nightmare stories of wifi dropouts.
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Can you root it and put a custom ROM? If so, does the guide exist?
if you searched further than your nose long is, u had the answer on that
Really depends on what you want to do with the phone. The screen display is a lot better than desire. If you just wanna a phone to use, IS is the choice. If you are a fun of installing custom ROMs, desire is probably a better choice. As far as I know, software rooting is not available yet for IS.
if you are comparing stock to stock...
the major advantage of having an IS is the internal memory... on a fresh stock rom...
Desire would have around 147MB for you to use for all your apps.. and you have to spare 30MB for OTA updates purpose...
if you have IS you have 1.07GB on a fresh rom... so many apps you can install without any worries
I switched last week from Desire to an IS.
I think it's a relief.
The screen is much better, it's a bit faster than the Desire.
Screensize is perfect for my pockets. Sound is pretty good.
Enough space for installing apps.
Also the touch buttons are cool.
Still I don't understand why this phone isn't that populair.
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_Flea_ said:
I switched last week from Desire to an IS.
I think it's a relief.
The screen is much better, it's a bit faster than the Desire.
Screensize is perfect for my pockets. Sound is pretty good.
Enough space for installing apps.
Also the touch buttons are cool.
Still I don't understand why this phone isn't that populair.
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Becoz most people are keen on getting a dual core phone and they turn blind to see the features of the single core phones!
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Becoz most people are keen on getting a dual core phone and they turn blind to see the features of the single core phones!
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At first I was looking at a dual core as well.
But after all I thought: what is the real benefit at the moment?
I mean, I don't call that much a month, use internet a lot, play some simple games, listen to music and that's it.
My Desire could handle all those things very good.
I must say that I'm very happy with my IS and I'm glad I didn't wait for a dual core.
Bear in mind the Desire has some issues with multi-touch, and battery life isn't particularly good. It is readily rootable however, while some variants of the Incredible S are not.
My friend had a Desire nd i have an IS ... Go for the IS no doubt.. so fat the issues i ve seen in multi touch . battery life, screen , speed ( cause of RAM ) .. IS wins hands down
i need to upgrade my htc legend with BELL and i have the choice of Atrix or the Incredible S from BELL. I'm torn between a stable HTC with Sense UI or future proof and more powerful phone with motoblur crap. I posted the question in the Atrix and now here to have both perspective.... i hope its ok
Coming previously from HTC Touch where i first experienced Windows Mobile computing, the ability of changing ROMS, then ported ANdroid ROMS which imo the best experience of them all with all the hacking/mod abilities...
So now my only criteria is the phone must be an Android phone... because it has such a large user based and hacking community in general...My current HTC Legend, is a great phone especially after the Froyo update, very responsive but its lacking the storage capcity...
This is why i'm changing my HTC Legend which is still stock ... i read about rooting it but it was a bit too complicated to root it without going through hoops and loops . So I didnt bother... and im running out of space
I've read a few reviews about incredible S and atrix... and although the atrix looks superior on paper... i wasnt impressed by the motoblur and the few videos i saw...
The Motorola Atrix hardware is futureproof but only if Motorola decide to release new upgrades to take advantage of the hardware... i heard some bad things that based on history, i shouldnt bet on getting upgrades... is this true? If i'm not getting the upgrades from Motorola, this is why i think the hacking community plays an important role to get the best out of this wonderful piece of hardware ( like the HTC Touch in its time ). Apart from the wonderful beedfed up hardware ... i havent seen anything good... in fact i saw a few threads about rebooting problems, issues...etc and bloatware , not being able to install non market apk and motoblur ( which i only saw in the 1st generation motorola blur in the android 1.5 phone cant recall the name of the phone)
The Incredible S seems to be a more stable phone and i personally like the SENSE UI and HTC in general. I havent seen a lot of negative reviews or problems. COming form the HTC family, i tend to trust it more than Motorola. The 8MP cam is a plus but the inability to root is sad... at least some dev are working on it ...
Does the success of rooting the IS depend on the popularity of the phone ? I have the impression its because we have a few experienced guru but not enough to crack it ... or is this ROM too hard to find any weakness...
I ask myself the same question about 2 weeks ago (aslo with bell) and decide to go with the HTC incredible S. Like oyu said the atrix loog good on paper but that's it. (well on what i read) I have my Incredible for not even a weeks now and i'm loving it. I,m very satisfied by... i would say evrey part of it. Did not have any problem, enjoying all the apps and still looking for new tricks.
I honestly tink that the s-off and root will come just in time.
I have faith in the XDA family, and eventually this phone will get cracked. Here in the States, Verizon has released the HTC Droid Incredible 2, so that should also spur more work to get the S-off and rooting going. Its only a matter of time, and many other HTCs have been rooted in the past.
i know a lot of sensation users are gonna think im crazy but i really feel like moving to a wp7 device and since im on TMOUS, i only have one choice right now. the reason is i want to switch is because of the new mango update. i had wp7 on my hd2 but of course the battery wouldnt charge correctly and the browser was horrible! other than that i loved wp7, everything is simple no need to mod or change things. and the new talk of the update makes me miss the os.
now this is where u come in!! do u think the update was very significant, how is the browser compared to before? any problems i should know about the phone, like the sensation has some touchscreen issues? i would really love your guy's input, and if anyone is selling their device id be happy to purchase it.
PMed you a offer, please check.
and i haven't found any problems with the touchscreen or screen related on my device, i dont know about others.
I just bought my HD7 and updated to Mango. I totally love it. I came from the HD2 with Mango on it. There is a huge difference to me. It is so much smoother going from window to window or moving up and down on the tiles. Internet browser works great. I have no complaints until now. The only down side to this is that there isn't as much development as the HD2. After you experience this you will not go back. I say buy an HD7 and move on.
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I just bought my HD7 and updated to Mango. I totally love it. I came from the HD2 with Mango on it. There is a huge difference to me. It is so much smoother going from window to window or moving up and down on the tiles. Internet browser works great. I have no complaints until now. The only down side to this is that there isn't as much development as the HD2. After you experience this you will not go back. I say buy an HD7 and move on.
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This is actually what I was hoping for. I think its better that there is no need for development. I'm at a point in my life where I don't have time to be messing with phones. I loved WP7 on my hd2 as well, so Im glad u had input from that prospective. I think I'm gonna do it and then prolly buy the HTC radar once my 6 month full upgrade comes around. Although the 8gb starage is a turnoff. Hopefully it can be modified like I've seen on the hd7.
Well thanks for the responses. And others feel free to give ur input still. And yes still looking for phone offers
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I would hang on to your Sensation until T-Mobile gets some new hardware. I have both a Sensation and a HD7. Mango runs flawlessly on the HD7. It does everything my Sensation does, but better (with the exception of Flash and WiFi tethering). But in hand, the Sensation feels absolutely amazing. I'm hoping to have the Titan or something nice from Nokia land on T-Mobile. Someone will buy it and then demand an Android device, and I will come to their rescue.
WP7 is better than Android or iOS. Just my .02.
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since this post and got the hd7 and have had it for 2 weeks.
and idk if i got a bad sensation, but the hd7 screen (i feel) brings out colors a lot better especially whites. and i have to agree i am loving wp7.5 mor than android, i havent owned an iphone since the 3gs but i feel wp7.5 is more convenient. of course i miss the wide selection of apps and flash but these things take time.
im not a fan of the giant screens, i actually feel i would like the radar better but the 8gb storage sucks and the screen is a little too small for me.... my pickiness is a killer lol.
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i know a lot of sensation users are gonna think im crazy but i really feel like moving to a wp7 device and since im on TMOUS, i only have one choice right now. the reason is i want to switch is because of the new mango update. i had wp7 on my hd2 but of course the battery wouldnt charge correctly and the browser was horrible! other than that i loved wp7, everything is simple no need to mod or change things. and the new talk of the update makes me miss the os.
now this is where u come in!! do u think the update was very significant, how is the browser compared to before? any problems i should know about the phone, like the sensation has some touchscreen issues? i would really love your guy's input, and if anyone is selling their device id be happy to purchase it.
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I did just the opposite, switched from HD7 to sensation, and yeah you are right about the wp7 I too do really miss it.Good thing is that mom has my HD7 and after a bit of convincing I can get it back for a few days of course..
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i know a lot of sensation users are gonna think im crazy but i really feel like moving to a wp7 device and since im on TMOUS, i only have one choice right now. the reason is i want to switch is because of the new mango update. i had wp7 on my hd2 but of course the battery wouldnt charge correctly and the browser was horrible! other than that i loved wp7, everything is simple no need to mod or change things. and the new talk of the update makes me miss the os.
now this is where u come in!! do u think the update was very significant, how is the browser compared to before? any problems i should know about the phone, like the sensation has some touchscreen issues? i would really love your guy's input, and if anyone is selling their device id be happy to purchase it.
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Hi, I have a spare mobile hd7, barely used, sim unlocked and upgraded to mango 7.5, let me know if you are still interested tnx ^_^
I love playing with phones. My screen died on my HD2 UltimateDroid. Insurance only covered another windows phone. They sent an HD7 Mango.HD7 running Deep Shining ROM. I felt limited as to apps and customization. HD7 is great for it's simplicity and social network integration. I also have a Sensation running Virtuous Inquisition ICS 4.0. Battery life is better with the HD7. Both can be tweaked to get better battery life. I have way more control over everything I do with Android and 4g, dual core. Because of the lack of battery life. I carry both! Custom ROMs so if I run outta juice, I switch SIMs LOL. I have to say the Sensation is a monster. I guess it's really user's preference!
I am about to buy a used nexus s (going to sell my sensation after I get it). I hate sense and I really want some of that ics action (I know kmobs is working on it, but the nexus will have support from google + a TON of great devs, not just the 3 working on the sensation cm team).
The reason why I'm posting this is to give you guys a chance to convince me to stay with my sensation. The nexus s seems like the better phone to me, but if one of you guys can convince me otherwise, please do.
P.S. Not trying to hate on the devs over here, it just seems like all of them are so focused on sense, very few aosp roms.
Hello, gonintendo. Can you please provide 5 reasons of why we should convince you to stay. Thank you.
I had the nexus one and nexus s. I took development for granted. Now I'm selling my sensation and waiting for my galaxy nexus to arrive. Not liking what Verizon is doing to the galaxy nexus.
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Hello, gonintendo. Can you please provide 5 reasons of why we should convince you to stay. Thank you.
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Because you (I assume) love your sensation and the community built around it here on xda? I have convinced myself that I want a nexus s, which doesn't necessarily mean that it's the best phone for me, confirmation bias is a *****. Perhaps there is something huge that I am overlooking that would make it worth my while to stick with my sensation.
Had it before this phone. Main reason I never picked it up again is the screen. Its terrible.
Kinda wish I'd kept it for development though. O well
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Assuming you know the specs, but anyways...
Dual core
8mp camera with 1080p
larger screen with higher resolution
Option to run sense or not
ICS will come, and with that many more AOSP type ROMs
Plus tbh... I think this phone will run much better once it has ics support... It doesn't yet and the nexus s is smooth... But if you want simile specs minus quite as much dev support just get a vibrant probably for half price of the nexus...
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Nexus s is a great phone. Awesome audio chip, camera rocks despite lower pixels. I loved it. I bought tgis phone for the bigger screen.
I had a Nexus S for a week,talk about a **** build, I hated it, plastic kills me. I couldn't use it. Too vanilla for my taste and THAT plastic.
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Just get the nexus. You'll probably be happier.
If this phone isn't doing it for you, you should sell it and get what will satisfy your needs. Don't concern yourself with what others think.
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If this phone isn't doing it for you, you should sell it and get what will satisfy your needs. Don't concern yourself with what others think.
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I'm never happy with any phone, I have ocd lol. Thanks for the advice guys, I think I'm going to go for it.
Screw the Sensation, it has so many buggs it makes me sick. I regret buying it
What is this, a forum filled with angsty teenagers, threatening to switch their phones? Nobody cares if you switch, go ahead and do it if you're not happy with it! This isn't a religious group, it's a dev forum.
Seems like the new HTC models have pissed off people who simply must have the latest technology....
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The reason why I'm posting this is to give you guys a chance to convince me to stay with my sensation. The nexus s seems like the better phone to me, but if one of you guys can convince me otherwise, please do.
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the only thing thats stopping me is Nexus/S does not have micro SD card capability
( some one correct me if I'm wrong about it )
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I hate sense ...
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I think that pretty much sums up your justification, provided that the cost to change phones is a non-issue.
one thing I see is "I hate sense". I say sell it why own an htc device knowing your getting sense..
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What is this, a forum filled with angsty teenagers, threatening to switch their phones? Nobody cares if you switch, go ahead and do it if you're not happy with it! This isn't a religious group, it's a dev forum.
Seems like the new HTC models have pissed off people who simply must have the latest technology....
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I'm not asking you to care, I am trying to make an informed decision. Relax, I sense some angst in your post.
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one thing I see is "I hate sense". I say sell it why own an htc device knowing your getting sense..
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I had never used sense prior to buying the sensation. I had played with sense 2.x on a buddy's thunderbolt and I actually liked it quite a bit. I don't know what they were thinking when they put 3.0 together. Everything about it is slower, uglier and less usable than the previous version imo.
Seems like a massive downgrade to me. Maybe I am wrong... but... I doubt it