I appreciate the idea behind the holidays, but since those ideas are mostly lost on sales and media hype plus the fact I'm a miserable pos, add in personal problems, I f***** hate holidays. I know I'm not alone. Or am I? I say f*** fake smiles and lies. Everyone just stay home and order Chinese food.
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I like the Holidays. My birthday is on December 25th...
Sorry, I don't share your POV
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I'd go mental without the holidays. Working in a place you don't overly enjoy means you cherish any day you get away from the place.
I love the holidays. Lots of classic movies being shown on the TV.
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Nothing is better for me than spending the time with my family and getting away from lifes problems for a bit.
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Nothing is better for me than spending the time with my family and getting away from lifes problems for a bit.
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This is my same thinking and feeling
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I love the holidays, you can be drunk for days!
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I don't hate the holidays, but I do hate what they have become. It's just another excuse to guilt-trip people with little or no money into parting with what they do have, just to line the pockets of some fat git who owns a shop or two. I've tried asking people that normally get me gifts not to get me anything, but they just ignored that and bought me stuff anyway. This year I've asked that they donate to a charity of my choice instead. Let's see how that goes down.
To me, it should be about a time of celebrating and enjoying the company of family and friends - people who you care about. It's not about giving gifts. That's just commercial crap that's been drummed into us since birth.
But yes. Drunk for days
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I don't hate the holidays, but I do hate what they have become. It's just another excuse to guilt-trip people with little or no money into parting with what they do have, just to line the pockets of some fat git who owns a shop or two. I've tried asking people that normally get me gifts not to get me anything, but they just ignored that and bought me stuff anyway. This year I've asked that they donate to a charity of my choice instead. Let's see how that goes down.
To me, it should be about a time of celebrating and enjoying the company of family and friends - people who you care about. It's not about giving gifts. That's just commercial crap that's been drummed into us since birth.
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Well said!
Of course, they won't want to give to charity because charity doesn't give back. People need to get away from this 'give-to-receive' culture. As you said, everybody's spending money they don't have and lining the pockets of those who do already have it.
Give love, give kindness, give hugs... but if i need socks i'll go buy them myself thank you very much!
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Well said!
Of course, they won't want to give to charity because charity doesn't give back. People need to get away from this 'give-to-receive' culture. As you said, everybody's spending money they don't have and lining the pockets of those who do already have it.
Give love, give kindness, give hugs... but if i need socks i'll go buy them myself thank you very much!
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That's the thing - I'm still gonna buy gifts for people as I don't want to upset anyone that expects it. I find it quite ironic that I'm the one that decides to go against the "make the rich richer" idea, but I'm still the one that ends up buying gifts for people.
So anyway, are we talking about all holidays here, or is it just the international codeword for Christmas?
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So anyway, are we talking about all holidays here, or is it just the international codeword for Christmas?
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All holidays. I'll even go one step further, and include any family/social events where people who don't like each other fake it and act all cheery.
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All holidays. I'll even go one step further, and include any family/social events where people who don't like each other fake it and act all cheery.
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I used to hate holidays, but then i realised that as long as you stay far away from everyone else in the world, holidays are actually awesome! My advice, if it looks like you're going to be surrounded by people and unable to get a minute to yourself, go book into a nice hotel room and stay there until it's all over!
Thankfully i have sanctuary at home and don't get disturbed. Holidays are just bonus time off work!
I don't care for holidays either. It's like a mandatory hang-out. If I wanted to be around someone, then I'd be around them. Why would I want to pretend and force it?
I don't want people buying me stuff that I didn't want in the first place, and then I can't even return it to the store because 1. it's not customary to give the receipt with a gift and 2. they'll be upset if I get rid of it.
I don't want to have to try and guess what item each person would like me to buy them, only to have them interpret my choice of gift as if there's some hidden meaning behind why I chose that particular gift.
Holidays/celebrations just seem full of forced feelings, unnecessary traditions, and reluctance to go against what everybody else is doing because of the fear of being that one person everybody's talking about. 'He said he doesn't want anybody to buy him any gifts for Christmas, and he doesn't even celebrate his birthday or New Year's. Weeeeird!'
When I accomplish a long sought-after goal, or one of my friends/family get some sort of really good news or something, I don't mind celebrating it. But I would celebrate because I genuinely see a reason for it. How is the fact that it is the date that you were born on X number of years ago equate to candles, cake, ice cream, and gifts? It seems a little OCD to me to keep track of dates like b-days, anniversaries, holidays, and the like. But it is overlooked in the name of celebration.
It's a mixed emotions for me. Like what the other poster said it's like forcing yourself to be with someone you don't really want to be with. But there are times where I get to meet a mutual friend of a family, which most of the time are really nice people.
well, I personally love the holidays. I love having a whole week off to get away from school and spending time with family. I also love the snow (which doesn't apply to people who live in hot areas lol.)
I don't mind gifts but it does make me feel kind of guilty that people spend so much money on them when that money could go to places like charity.
I hate holidays, and the fact that I work in a store that already had christmas decorations and sweets in goddamn september doesn't help.
On the other hand, holiday food FTW.
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I hate holidays, and the fact that I work in a store that already had christmas decorations and sweets in goddamn september doesn't help.
On the other hand, holiday food FTW.
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Well put. Every cloud has a silver lining, and a decent Christmas meal makes up for at least some of the crap that comes with the holiday season!
I abhor the holidays most of them have lost traditional meaning and became a corporate gimmick
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I feel the same way as you, on top of me not really having much of a family anymore to celebrate it with Sucks
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About 3 months ago a friend of mine asked me to join a biggest loser group on Facebook. I needed to lose about 30lbs so I joined up.
The entry fee was due during the middle of October, a couple weeks after the contest started. The due day came I didn't pay and I figured they dropped me. So I stopped giving my weekly updates.
Well this week the contest ended, and I got a nasty message that I still owed the entry fee and 2 months worth of fees for not reporting my weight. They wanted to pay the winner and they were short my entry fee.
I sent a message back that ill pay my part, but since its a week before Christmas im short on cash and it will have to wait till Friday. Well that wasn't good enough, they needed it that day. I told them sorry I couldn't.
So instead of just dropping me and taking me out of the equation. They just dug into their own pockets to pay the winner my part. And they are still continuing to hound me about the money.
Was it too much for me to ask to pay that Friday. It wasn't my choice they paid the winner my part.
If I was running this thing, and I had someone who didn't pay by the due date. I would have removed him from the equation and ended it right there. Not try to collect a bunch of money a couple months later.
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About 3 months ago a friend of mine asked me to join a biggest loser group on Facebook. I needed to lose about 30lbs so I joined up.
The entry fee was due during the middle of October, a couple weeks after the contest started. The due day came I didn't pay and I figured they dropped me. So I stopped giving my weekly updates.
Well this week the contest ended, and I got a nasty message that I still owed the entry fee and 2 months worth of fees for not reporting my weight. They wanted to pay the winner and they were short my entry fee.
I sent a message back that ill pay my part, but since its a week before Christmas im short on cash and it will have to wait till Friday. Well that wasn't good enough, they needed it that day. I told them sorry I couldn't.
So instead of just dropping me and taking me out of the equation. They just dug into their own pockets to pay the winner my part. And they are still continuing to hound me about the money.
Was it too much for me to ask to pay that Friday. It wasn't my choice they paid the winner my part.
If I was running this thing, and I had someone who didn't pay by the due date. I would have removed him from the equation and ended it right there. Not try to collect a bunch of money a couple months later.
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Okay, I am the Drama Llama and all so this is my thing .
I'm going through something similar, except its eBay fees and its a lot more money lol... But anyway, If you weren't paying anymore, why didn't you just tell them you were gonna drop out
Figured they had a brain and would figure it out..
Guy didnt pay fee and isnt reporting weight.. obviously he is not in the contest..
Actually with corporations it's much different.
He stopped paying us, but lets keep him in so at the end we can slam him with a huge fee and send our friends at the collection agency to his house.
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Actually with corporations it's much different.
He stopped paying us, but lets keep him in so at the end we can slam him with a huge fee and send our friends at the collection agency to his house.
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Yea, what he said!
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Figured they had a brain and would figure it out..
Guy didnt pay fee and isnt reporting weight.. obviously he is not in the contest..
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Nobody on the intarwebs has a brain or knows how to use one correctly while online.
But the dood should have posted on the FB stating he was dropping out of the contest to go back to eating Ho-ho's and have been done with it.
Yea, I'm going to have to agree with the general consensus. When it comes to money, more specifically, being paid money, it is advantageous to just assume that you are still in the program that way the "organization" can still get paid and claim ignorance.
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wow is all i can say. as an attorney, thats absolute bull****!!!!!!
some people really become so embroiled in facebook, it takes over their whole life. has anyone seen Idiocracy?
if you didnt sign anything -- and a facebook post will never hold up in court -- then my friend, you just walk away. no harm. i hope you learned your lesson for getting involved in such a soapy facebookish thing in the first place. I mean --I could very well be 1000 pounds and lie and post weekly updates about "feeling so good, so thin so sexy my pants fit me now!" and collect the winners money all while hiding behind facebook and drinking bacon grease and sucking crisco through a coffee stirrer straw all the while.
i wouldnt worry about those douchebags but i understand they are probably your friends... so thats where facebook really gets irritating.
now... ask yourself this question -- are these your true friends? Would your true friends betray you like this? I mean facebook?! because this is in facebook you did not betray anyone... you betrayed yourself by agreeing to be part of such a joke, but thats OK, i betray myself everyday lol. Its one thing to go to an eating disorder group and get involved in a group effort, but facebook... come on!
friends dont do that to friends. Besides... guess what the fat ass "loser" is doing with his/her winnings? 80% sure its going right into cheese, chips, bacon grease and crisco.
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wow is all i can say. as an attorney, thats absolute bull****!!!!!!
some people really become so embroiled in facebook, it takes over their whole life. has anyone seen Idiocracy?
if you didnt sign anything -- and a facebook post will never hold up in court -- then my friend, you just walk away. no harm. i hope you learned your lesson for getting involved in such a soapy facebookish thing in the first place. I mean --I could very well be 1000 pounds and lie and post weekly updates about "feeling so good, so thin so sexy my pants fit me now!" and collect the winners money all while hiding behind facebook and drinking bacon grease and sucking crisco through a coffee stirrer straw all the while.
i wouldnt worry about those douchebags but i understand they are probably your friends... so thats where facebook really gets irritating.
now... ask yourself this question -- are these your true friends? Would your true friends betray you like this? I mean facebook?! because this is in facebook you did not betray anyone... you betrayed yourself by agreeing to be part of such a joke, but thats OK, i betray myself everyday lol. Its one thing to go to an eating disorder group and get involved in a group effort, but facebook... come on!
friends dont do that to friends. Besides... guess what the fat ass "loser" is doing with his/her winnings? 80% sure its going right into cheese, chips, bacon grease and crisco.
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Thank God we have an expert!
Lesson to be learned here; delete your Facebook accounts.
Oh I'm no expert here but the best thing I've ever done other than root my phone is..delete facebook...I hate it with gusto!
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Tooleman694, I am so sorry to hear about what happened. That is totally unfair and I feel your pain man. You get into a group to try to drop some weight and some guys try to rob you after you drop out? That hurts. Short on some cash near Christmas? That hurts.
Actually, I don't feel your pain at all, because what actually happened was you signed up and then decided not to pay any fee because you were getting your ass kicked in the competition and didn't want to cough up any more money. Sounds to me like you're a gigantic TOOL. Oh wait, your name already makes that very clear.
The best part about all of this? If I hadn't taken your money while you were too busy trash talking (and losing), maybe you would have some money to pay that fee. Or buy some better gifts. Or both.
Lol.
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Tooleman694, I am so sorry to hear about what happened. That is totally unfair and I feel your pain man. You get into a group to try to drop some weight and some guys try to rob you after you drop out? That hurts. Short on some cash near Christmas? That hurts.
Actually, I don't feel your pain at all, because what actually happened was you signed up and then decided not to pay any fee because you were getting your ass kicked in the competition and didn't want to cough up any more money. Sounds to me like you're a gigantic TOOL. Oh wait, your name already makes that very clear.
The best part about all of this? If I hadn't taken your money while you were too busy trash talking (and losing), maybe you would have some money to pay that fee. Or buy some better gifts. Or both.
Lol.
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At the OP... This is why some things are best kept of the interwebs
The people their about will alwys find them.....
But tbf Jccfor seems like an arse (No offence )
money ? competition ? facebook ? man u best be joking , let the suckers hang dry , if they cocky (and stupid) like that they dont deserve a penny
Events and causes on facebook are like bowel movements full of crap.
Keep your money and never join crappy facebook crap again. Defriend and unlike if neccessary, and try to block the fools who are harrassing you. Also NEVER put personal information on facebook that would allow someone to ID or find you in real life. My facebook profile is made up completely.
Also as the lawyer said you dont owe them anything. If it getys worse or you get sick of it to the police and say you are being harrassed online. Save all emails and posts.
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Events and causes on facebook are like bowel movements full of crap.
Keep your money and never join crappy facebook crap again. Defriend and unlike if neccessary, and try to block the fools who are harrassing you. Also NEVER put personal information on facebook that would allow someone to ID or find you in real life. My facebook profile is made up completely.
Also as the lawyer said you dont owe them anything. If it getys worse or you get sick of it to the police and say you are being harrassed online. Save all emails and posts.
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so how do ur friends find ya , if its made up
tell them they did a great thing by paying the winner out of there pocket and congratulate them. thats what id do haha.
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so how do ur friends find ya , if its made up
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Why would you pay for help to lose weight?! If you really wanted to lose weight, you'd use your common sense and think to yourself that you need to burn more calories then you intake. Simples. Anyway, there are more helpful, free sources of help. Well xda is one for mobile phones. Vommon sense again, you'd think that searching a body building forum would be another.
Wow epic failure at common sense
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Why would you pay for help to lose weight?! If you really wanted to lose weight, you'd use your common sense and think to yourself that you need to burn more calories then you intake. Simples. Anyway, there are more helpful, free sources of help. Well xda is one for mobile phones. Vommon sense again, you'd think that searching a body building forum would be another.
Wow epic failure at common sense
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:sizzle: Panda BURN!!!!
If you didn't sign a legally binding contract, you don't owe them anything.
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Why would you pay for help to lose weight?! If you really wanted to lose weight, you'd use your common sense and think to yourself that you need to burn more calories then you intake. Simples. Anyway, there are more helpful, free sources of help. Well xda is one for mobile phones. Vommon sense again, you'd think that searching a body building forum would be another.
Wow epic failure at common sense
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I believe the idea is that whoever loses the most wins or something like that, the point is winning the loot is an incentive to lose weight... unless I'm missing something.
Do you think that, too?
Quite the opposite, i reckon they're still not used enough. Of course it's become easier to do online but people are still reserved and reticent to be polite to strangers. Natural reaction i guess. Perhaps the fact that people are being polite online may carry over to real life eventually?
Personally i've always found myself being awkward in real life social situations and heartfelt stuff just makes it worse. Gotta be drunk for that stuff! No such problem saying Thanks, please, sorry etc on here though.
I don't think the mods will like that. A "thank you" is a thing you'll have to deserve.
I will however 'Thank' any currently serving, or previously serving, member of any of the Armed Services on principal.
Should the OP decide to enlist and serve his Queen and Country i will be the first to hit that button!
Luckily for you, i am the queen Now, let's get f-ed up gentlemen!
I hate Justin bayber, will you thank me?
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WTS thanks hitting. 1$ each. pm me
(kidding don't ban me)
But that doesn't help when you secretly have a crush on Rebecca Black. So no, i can't thank you yet.
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Luckily for you, i am the queen Now, let's get f-ed up gentlemen!
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Hear, hear!
Cheers!
Edit: Can i borrow a couple of your commonwealth countries for the weekend? Nothing important...perhaps Canada & Australia? I promise to return them in good condition!
If you have kids then you know what Im talking about.. Sorry loses its meaning very VERY fast... lol
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If you have kids then you know what Im talking about.. Sorry loses its meaning very VERY fast... lol
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Lulz! So you feel like you're being played? Kids are masters at manipulation and will stop at nothing! The two 'angels' that i share a house with know exactly how to wrap me in knots.
Bless 'em. (They're not mine so i only have to digest them in bite sized chunks).
When i was younger i had terrible trouble admitting when i was wrong. I would defend my argument long after it had stopped being logical. I think that's common too. It stings the pride. I'm glad i'm not like that any more.
LOL! The 4 year old is the worst.. she runs her mom. her brother and her sister.. I try to keep it together... but damn... she knows all the tricks!
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LOL! The 4 year old is the worst.. she runs her mom. her brother and her sister.. I try to keep it together... but damn... she knows all the tricks!
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The ones here are 4 (boy) and 5 (girl) and boy does she think she's the boss! My landlord is the most patient people person i've ever known, and is far too kind to be a disciplinarian, (he took me in after all), but she takes every advantage of the fact.
"Daughter of mine, you're going to bed soon so turn off that computer and go brush your teeth".
"No daddy, we don't go to bed at this time and i will play this some more, and then i will watch television for a while...", in the sweetest voice imaginable, as if she's explaining the way things are to a total idiot.
I love it! She always does what i ask her though.
They could be the most important words ever spoken to a person
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I'm 16 years old, and my mom won't let me get a license. She's too paranoid and strict. She thinks I'm going to be street racing and get in an accident. I work my ass off in school, get straight a's and I have all ap classes, but I do disobey her a lot and piss her off at home. I've asked her if she could let me drive, but she wants to wait til I'm 18? I just laugh at her cuz she's crazy if she thinks ima wait til I'm 18 to drive. So anyways, any ideas on convincing my mother to let me drive?
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Sneak into her room late at night while she's in a deep sleep, and gently whisper into her ear,
I will let my son drive, I will let my son drive, I will let my son drive..........
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Sneak into her room late at night while she's in a deep sleep, and gently whisper into her ear,
I will let my son drive, I will let my son drive, I will let my son drive..........
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Lmfao. That's a brilliant idea, I might actually try that seriously.
Any other ideas?
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#firstworldproblems
Seriously though, why can't you wait a couple of years? Presumably it's your mum paying for the whole thing so she gets to call the shots, right? If you were paying for it might be different, but then you're still living under her roof aren't you?
I was 22 before i could afford lessons, the car and insurance to go with it. Are you working full-time and commuting every day? If not, you don't need a car. You just want one.
Actually, she's not paying for anything. My big brother is paying for the lessons, school, and license. And he's also gonna give me one of his cars. The only thing she might pay for is gas. I need it to get to school, my school is around 5 miles away from where I live, and I'm leaving to college after senior year so I'm gonna need a car obviously
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I don't get you young people. When I was 16, I wanted a good bike, not a car. 20 now, still have no car, and only a learner's permit so I have some form of ID. 5 miles is not far. I used to ride my bike 8 miles to school everyday...IN COLLEGE. YOu are 16, the only reason you would want a car is to show off to the girls. And you would only get the girls that are empty in their heads and only go for money.
I'm 19, studying on college and still can't get a part time job. I take the bus from home to school for an hour. My mom wants me to drive but I said I can't because I don't have a job to pay for any of that.
Unless you can afford the car, insurance, etc. Just deal with it for two more years.
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Actually, she's not paying for anything. My big brother is paying for the lessons, school, and license. And he's also gonna give me one of his cars. The only thing she might pay for is gas. I need it to get to school, my school is around 5 miles away from where I live, and I'm leaving to college after senior year so I'm gonna need a car obviously
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It would make things convenient, but it is NOT a need.
Well, she's not paying for anything to get my license, so she might as well let me get it. And fine, its ok if I not able to drive my own car, but I just wanna be able to have a license. I just want to convince her to let me get a license that she's not gonna spend a penny on.
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You don't need a parent to get your license do you? Just make an appointment and show up with a licensed driver and an insured car. Thats what I did.
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Well, she's not paying for anything to get my license, so she might as well let me get it. And fine, its ok if I not able to drive my own car, but I just wanna be able to have a license. I just want to convince her to let me get a license that she's not gonna spend a penny on.
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start to behave and don't piss off your mom for two more years.
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You don't need a parent to get your license do you? Just make an appointment and show up with a licensed driver and an insured car. Thats what I did.
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I don't know, I haven't really looked into it. But I always thought they have to give their signature of authorization don't they? And I still haven't even got my permit yet.
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start to behave and don't piss off your mom for two more years.
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But why should I wait two more years just to get a license? I'm fine with just having a license, I can live with not being able to have my own car to drive.
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start to behave and don't piss off your mom for two more years.
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This. If somebody else is picking up the tab, your mother is obviously only concerned from a responsibility point of view. She knows you better than we do, so we can't really speak to that.. but perhaps you can spend the next few months proving to her with your actions that you are ready to drive?
Perhaps in the meantime you can convince her of a compromise whereby you take your lessons and get your license, and she gets final say on when you're allowed to get a car?
The best things in life are earned. Go show your mother some love and earn your right to drive!
i was in the same situation as you. its something you have to deal with. im 18 now, and am glad my parents made me wait. i got good exercise on my bike, and value the fact that i can now drive as an adult, not a teenager. just my 2cents though. and start behaving and it might happen sooner then you think
Also, do you have a learner's Permit? First pay for that yourself, then pay for driving lessons, then pay for the licence. If you can do all that yourself then you can drive. Don't depend on others.
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Also, do you have a learner's Permit? First pay for that yourself, then pay for driving lessons, then pay for the licence. If you can do all that yourself then you can drive. Don't depend on others.
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alright guys, thanks for the advice, but i can already pay for it, but she still wont let me get my license, it just doesnt make sense? i just want the license, thats all.
Driving my own car i can wait for.
Then be an adult. Go get your license, while you're at it, move out. Seriously. YOu live under your mom's roof. When she tell you you can't do it, you don't do it. What is it with teenagers and their lack of respect these days? Maybe it's that I come from a different background, and maybe I don't respect many people, but my parent's and their opinions I'll always respect, even if I don't agree with it. Since she doesn't want you to do it, there must be a reason, be it personal, or not. It could be something you don't even know about, and you getting it would have an emotional impact on your mother.
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Then be an adult. Go get your license, while you're at it, move out. Seriously. YOu live under your mom's roof. When she tell you you can't do it, you don't do it. What is it with teenagers and their lack of respect these days? Maybe it's that I come from a different background, and maybe I don't respect many people, but my parent's and their opinions I'll always respect, even if I don't agree with it. Since she doesn't want you to do it, there must be a reason, be it personal, or not. It could be something you don't even know about, and you getting it would have an emotional impact on your mother.
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hmm alright. I understand what you're trying to say. I guess ill just wait.
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.. It could be something you don't even know about, and you getting it would have an emotional impact on your mother.
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Perfect chance for me to slide an apt, drunken rant in. What Jaszek just said is 100% solid. When i started spending nights with my new GF at the age of 15, my mother didn't like it. The 'curfew' was an obvious punishment. It's not like i didn't see it coming, but was i going to ditch my first 'adult' relationship?
So i moved out. It was an emotional day. It hit me all at once what my mother had gone through to raise me to that age. I felt like crap for abandoning ship, but i was going to do what i wanted regardless. The last thing i did before hauling my bags out of the house was write a letter for my mum to find. It was covered in my tears, but told her how grateful i was for all the sacrifices she had made to raise me.
She was good about it. We spoke regularly. It made me realise how tough things had been for her. I signed up to job agencies and went to work to help pay the rent. It sucked, and inevitably it went to pieces. Instead of sitting my GCSE exams i was loading Lorries in a warehouse, pretending i was 18 so that i could get paid.
Needless to say my Mother saw it coming. When i wanted to move back home i had to ask if it was ok. Of course she wasn't going to say no.. but you have to ask...!
Long story short..do what your Mother tells you. It might seem like it sucks... but there's nothing more important in life than respecting your 'rents! I know that my mother still has the letter that i wrote her. In her eyes it's probably the only thing that's justified putting up with having with me in the first place; let alone raising me for 15 years!
You'll get your License eventually, and be glad when you do.. but your Mother is always right...even when she is wrong. Give her a kiss and tell her you understand. It's the least you can do...
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Perfect chance for me to slide an apt, drunken rant in. What Jaszek just said is 100% solid. When i started spending nights with my new GF at the age of 15, my mother didn't like it. The 'curfew' was an obvious punishment. It's not like i didn't see it coming, but was i going to ditch my first 'adult' relationship?
So i moved out. It was an emotional day. It hit me all at once what my mother had gone through to raise me to that age. I felt like crap for abandoning ship, but i was going to do what i wanted regardless. The last thing i did before hauling my bags out of the house was write a letter for my mum to find. It was covered in my tears, but told her how grateful i was for all the sacrifices she had made to raise me.
She was good about it. We spoke regularly. It made me realise how tough things had been for her. I signed up to job agencies and went to work to help pay the rent. It sucked, and inevitably it went to pieces. Instead of sitting my GCSE exams i was loading Lorries in a warehouse, pretending i was 18 so that i could get paid.
Needless to say my Mother saw it coming. When i wanted to move back home i had to ask if it was ok. Of course she wasn't going to say no.. but you have to ask...!
Long story short..do what your Mother tells you. It might seem like it sucks... but there's nothing more important in life than respecting your 'rents! I know that my mother still has the letter that i wrote her. In her eyes it's probably the only thing that's justified putting up with having with me in the first place; let alone raising me for 15 years!
You'll get your License eventually, and be glad when you do.. but your Mother is always right...even when she is wrong. Give her a kiss and tell her you understand. It's the least you can do...
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thanks, you guys just opened my eyes, and me realize im being irrational.
Wow, so today I found out that my ex-girlfriend now, been messaging her ex-boyfriend telling him he misses her and loves her and wants to be with him behind my back. Let me remind you that she is pregnant with my kid. I read her google chat log and found out all different kind of messages. I was completely shocked and completely *****ed at her. I told her stup*d as* to pack up her sh!t and get the f*ck out of my house. To think I was going to marry her as*.
Wow that's harsh man. Sorry to hear it. If there was no kid involved I'd say you're lucky to have found out, but that's just wrong on the little one. What a role model Mummy's gonna be
Sorry to hear that also, I think you need to care about your child now. Try not to confront her or him, just don't give a crap for the well being of your child (that needs to be your primary focus from now on).
Cheers man and good luck.
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Wow that's harsh man. Sorry to hear it. If there was no kid involved I'd say you're lucky to have found out, but that's just wrong on the little one. What a role model Mummy's gonna be
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Yeah, I really ended up with something huh.. Nice way to start off the New Years.. F*ck that b!tch!
UPDATE: She's calling me telling me sorry and how she doesnt want me to leave.. What a dumb b!tch. Seriously. I told her to get the f*ck out of my life and get her sh!t out. Tired of her bullsh!t.
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Sorry to hear that also, I think you need to care about your child now. Try not to confront her or him, just don't give a crap for the well being of your child (that needs to be your primary focus from now on).
Cheers man and good luck.
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Archer said:
Wow that's harsh man. Sorry to hear it. If there was no kid involved I'd say you're lucky to have found out, but that's just wrong on the little one. What a role model Mummy's gonna be
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Thank you both for hearing me out. Really appreciate the comments. Its good to talk to someone about something awful like this.
Make sure you don't sign that birth certificate until you get DNA confirmation that it's your baby.
I have a friend that got trapped and is paying child support on a child that's not his because he signed (acknowledged) that the child was his.
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Yeah, I really ended up with something huh.. Nice way to start off the New Years.. F*ck that b!tch!
UPDATE: She's calling me telling me sorry and how she doesnt want me to leave.. What a dumb b!tch. Seriously. I told her to get the f*ck out of my life and get her sh!t out. Tired of her bullsh!t.
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That's going to be a hard line to take if she's pregnant with your child... sounds like she might be a part of your life for good now, one way or the other. :/
Still, sorry to hear it bro.
Yeah, it's a tough situation all round. As said above, you are going to be involved in her life now for many, many years, so as Mr Clown said you need to forget your anger towards them because the little one is the most important thing.
Obviously, I agree with Android300ZX that a DNA test is a wise precaution.
Just one pertinent question: Are you sure it's your kid?
One thing to say: She's only sorry because she got caught. Ditch the b*tch bro, plenty of other chicks out there.
also MAKE SURE U RECORD everything when it come time to back what u need ex tv,couch,phone,printer,computer http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=qkt7Dx_uK5Y SHE DA CHEATING HO*
Its cheaper to keep her. Eff child support. My dad had to go through it 7, yes that's right, SEVEN times.
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Its cheaper to keep her. Eff child support. My dad had to go through it 7, yes that's right, SEVEN times.
-My life is a shooting range, people never change-
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This statement really pisses me off. One of my employees always says it all the time. It is not about what option is less expensive...it is about what makes you both happy.
You both need to have a heart to heart and decide if you want to make things work or if it is best to separate ways. Take it from someone who was married for 6 years with someone who didnt seem like he wanted to be there...in the end, I was tired of being in love with a man that didn't seem to feel the same about me and we were divorced. Now I am a single mom and things are much better off.
Examine your relationship now before you get to involved. Your baby will be best with 2 parents who love each other, rather then 2 parents who only stay together for the kid.
I agree you should catalog everything that you had pre-relationship with her. It's not marriage but things can go south very fast. I also agree with who ever posted about not signing the birth certificate until you know 110% sure that the baby is yours. I had a girlfriend who was messing around with other guys behind my back when she got pregnant (found that out after we went through everything). Good luck bro
Damn... Sorry to hear that bro
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Hey man, altough you think this is the end of the world, it isn´t. Let your friends and family comfort you, that life goes on.
That will be a prolonged pain. Find time to spend totally away from her to heal.
I'm gonna go back on what I previously said, after thinking about it some more. We've all made mistakes - I've made tons of them! If you care enough about the girl to be planning a family and marriage with her then maybe it's worth at least seeing what happens.
It's easy for someone not in the situation to knee-jerk but what do we know about how you two really feel about each other? Nothing.
Just use this place to vent and see our responses, then ignore them all completely and do what's best for you, your misses and the little one. Just be honest and you can't go wrong.
I usually don't repeat myself but:
-Make sure you get a DNA test!
-A lot of females use that (I'm pregnant) against a guy to keep him. It may very well be true but be careful.
-Record everything! Make a backup on Gmail. I would use Google Voice and have Google Voice be your primary voicemail. If she calls you and leaves a voicemail it will get saved to Google Voice where you can download it to your desktop and keep it on file.
-Take most if not all the things she says to you with a grain of salt.
-Make sure you don't end up looking like the deadbeat that just picked up and left. They tend to make themselves look like the victim to their friends and family.
-If the child is yours take care of your business and appreciate them because they are pure.
-If you find it in your heart to forgive her make sure you really forgive her and not bring it up when you get into the occasional argument.
I have experience in this. My GF cheated on me twice. The first time she would go out with her "girls" (multiple instances of partying with her "girls" and coming back late in the AM) and I found out she was going out with a guy that I knew who was in our circle of friends. She would cut school and hang out with this guy all the while I was paying for her education. She doesn't work or hasn't in the 4 years we've been together because I took care of everything as a man. The second time I caught her was on her birthday when I came home early (unannounced) from work to surprise her and caught her leaving the neighbors house and overheard her on the phone discussing the events with her BFF. I couldn't forgive her because the thought of me seeing this guy's car every day and the fact that I know he's be laughing at me from behind the confines of his home taking me for a sucker. The only reason I haven't pummeled his face in is because of my daughter.
I have a kid with her and I still live with her but we are only together for the sake of my daughter. She graduates this month from school and will get a job in her field so we will sit down and discuss our arrangements and separation.
Just make sure you cover all your bases man.
*** Again, Do the DNA test!! Don't fall for that guilt trip she may put on your about you denying your child and not trusting her ***
They will use that against you and make you succumb to signing the certificate.
Hang in there man, it's tough. I think that you best pursue what's going to be the best for your son or daughter.
There is a test they can do for paternity during gestation, it determines gender among other things of the child, mostly done for at risk older mothers.
If in the end you find you are a father, ill tell you first hand (literally holding my Lil guy) its a feeling like no other. You've got to do what's best for your own, which will likely be to split. Your gf likely grew up on a household with a limited example of a father figure, and you certainly don't want your own kid to turn into the same type of person as her.
Yeah, DNA test seems good suggestion. Make sure wich base it came from. Also maybe ask for a ETA.
Oké, now go to Dr Phill or Jerry Springer. Last time i checked it was a technical forum.
Cheers
This is my nephew: http://i.imgur.com/01aY7.png . He has lived with me & my parents (his grandparents) for most of his 2 year old life. For a time he lived with his step-father and mother. My parents got custody of him because he was badly abused by them. His step-father would lock him in rooms for 12 hours at a time (when he was less than 1 year old), he would scream loudly and curse at him, he wouldn't let his mother hold or feed him. His mother would smoke around him (marijuana and cigarettes), take him to random men's houses and leave him unattended. She would also drink around him, and drive with him while she was drunk. She would never watch or play with him; he accidentally injured himself badly several times because of this neglect. She also tested positive for methamphetamines, amphetamines, adderall, vyvanse, and several other drugs I can't remember.
Myself & my parents have been fighting with them in court for almost two years. They (my parents) have had temporary custody up until now. Tomorrow morning is our final court date which will decide on who gets custody. Please pray for my parents, his grandparents, to get permanent custody of him. If you don't pray, please wish us luck & keep him in your thoughts.
Thank you.
Geez...the fact that that handsome little guy can smile for a photo is beyond my comprension.
Best of luck to all those looking out for him, and I hope justice is on his grandparents side.
Please post back with an update.
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Hope all goes well. I've said a prayer for you guys.
It's good there are people like your parents. Everything's gonna be all right!
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I wish you the best!!!! It is so nice to see people who are willing to help!! You deserve the best!!!!!
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Sparky and I will pray, wish, hope, send positive energy in the hope that the outcome you want happens expeditiously.
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Sparky and I will pray, wish, hope, send positive energy in the hope that the outcome you want happens expeditiously.
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me too,Good luck
Good luck tomorrow. Sounds like he'll be much happier and better off with you and your parents. Make sure you let us know what happens.
Thank you all for your support. We were in court all day, the biological father knows how bad things are and is actually on our side, but he didn't show up, so it was just my parents & I vs my sister (child's mother). The judge previously ordered a no-contact order between the child & the step-father, the mother acted like she had divorced him by bringing in legal separation papers, but they were all fake.
As of now she is getting unsupervised visits twice a week. But thankfully he is residing with me & my parents the rest of the time.
She's trying to act like she's changed now, it's all fake. The story behind this whole thing is unbelievable, I'm not allowed to give out details, I'll write about it once it's all over.
We're not sure the next court date yet, I'll post about it once it's close.
Once again, thank you all for your prayers & support, they helped very much.
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Geez...the fact that that handsome little guy can smile for a photo is beyond my comprension.
Best of luck to all those looking out for him, and I hope justice is on his grandparents side.
Please post back with an update.
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That picture was taken after we got him back, it was a few months before he would smile again. Before they had him, he would kiss us all the time, after we got him back he would never let us kiss him, thankfully now he is doing much better. He still is suffering from some mental abuse, we're taking him to therapy classes and he is improving.
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Thank you all for your support. We were in court all day, the biological father knows how bad things are and is actually on our side, but he didn't show up, so it was just my parents & I vs my sister (child's mother). The judge previously ordered a no-contact order between the child & the step-father, the mother acted like she had divorced him by bringing in legal separation papers, but they were all fake.
As of now she is getting unsupervised visits twice a week. But thankfully he is residing with me & my parents the rest of the time.
She's trying to act like she's changed now, it's all fake. The story behind this whole thing is unbelievable, I'm not allowed to give out details, I'll write about it once it's all over.
We're not sure the next court date yet, I'll post about it once it's close.
Once again, thank you all for your prayers & support, they helped very much.
That picture was taken after we got him back, it was a few months before he would smile again. Before they had him, he would kiss us all the time, after we got him back he would never let us kiss him, thankfully now he is doing much better. He still is suffering from some mental abuse, we're taking him to therapy classes and he is improving.
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This is all sounding good sofar for the child...your sister's case seems to be weakening very quickly.
And the last part you wrote just breaks my heart. I am a father of two girls, one 6, other is almost 2. My wife and I have struggled in our 10 years of marriage, but we do everything we can every day to make our kids feel safe and loved. Why have kids for any other reason?
Thanks for the update, and best of luck in the next round
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