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Frat.. My fully upgraded Tilt (Dutty Rom 6) got its USB port damaged while I accidentally poked the stylus in there instead of the reset hole.
...now it won't sync with my pc however does charge only when I plug in the dedicated wall charger into it. So, on visual inspection, I saw the 5 pins (thats how many they seem) with last two next to the reset hole "misaligned".
I've tried poking a needle and trying to straighten it back into place but didn't work and I gave up fearing further damage to the port.
basically, I called At&t and they are mailing me a replacement device but now I'm not sure if I would need to re-flash the original AT&T rom back before returning.... anyone have any experience in the returns field? The cust serv rep "read" me a disclaimer (felt like hearing my rights by a cop!) stating that if they find any liquid or other damage to the phone then I may be charged $497.00 for it as it would be considered as warranty voided.
So, no mention of any s/w changes in the disclaimer she read to me also resulting in the same. But I surely don't want to take a chance therefore am humbly asking for some input from someone who may have experience similar situation?!!
Reading the "Tilt re-flash due to not voiding warranty if having to return" sticky-thread's all 14 pages did not give me even a single post where anyone can confirm if at&t will indeed consider messing up with the s/w as voiding warranty.... unless ofcourse I'm blind..(has happened once in a while).
I've also searched on this and have not found any posts.. again, I'm mentioning this so that the mods and/or others won't burn me for not doing my homework.
Wouldnt it be easier to flash a stock rom from SD card than wait and see if they void your warranty?
Sane said:
Wouldnt it be easier to flash a stock rom from SD card than wait and see if they void your warranty?
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Well.. I'm trying to avoid flashing the stock rom altogether. As I've noticed almost every 2nd post on the stock-rom-flashing-for-warranty sticky not having a smooth run while returning the phone to its original state.
besides.. what do you mean by "then wait and see if they void your warranty?"..
Thats exactly what I'm trying to avoid in the first place as once I mail the unit back I will have no control on the outcome unless ofcourse either someone confirms that not reverting back to the stock rom won't cause a $500 hole in my pocket or otherwise, in which case I'll have to re-flash it.
If you've flashed a different ROM then they will know and they will say you caused the damage and charge the full price for it.
they might charge you full price anyway because the usb port is damaged. it might just be easier to fix the port urself...
I know Pocket PC Techs can repair the connector in most cases:
http://www.pocketpctechs.com/main~u...T+Tilt+Sync+Connector+Replacement+Service.htm
AWESOME!!
PsyOpWarlord said:
I know Pocket PC Techs can repair the connector in most cases:
http://www.pocketpctechs.com/main~u...T+Tilt+Sync+Connector+Replacement+Service.htm
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Thanks a million for the site. I had no idea that a service like that existed and that too specifically addressing my exact issue. I'm gonna keep it bookmarked for future.
Fortunately, I was able to stick a needle in one of the pins and push them up and then have it held there with a dab of super glue. So far, its working like a charm but if it ever fails again I'll go the above route.
This is awesome.. I was very concerned in having to receive the replacement unit as with experience of having used several pda phones over the years I've learned that the refurb units that the warranty replacement give you is got a good 50-50 chance of having some kind of hw or sw flaw.. so... I'm glad to have kept my phone.
Took mine right back to the ATT store for a damaged usb port, all they did was confirm it wouldn't read via the usb and exchanged it right there for a new one, i was told it was a 1 year replacement warranty on the phone, they didn't check a thing, give it a try, i have also exchanged one that was erased buy getting to close to a mag drill at work, although it was not a tilt they exchanged it without even batting an eye, thanks tjenus
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Took mine right back to the ATT store for a damaged usb port, all they did was confirm it wouldn't read via the usb and exchanged it right there for a new one, i was told it was a 1 year replacement warranty on the phone, they didn't check a thing, give it a try, i have also exchanged one that was erased buy getting to close to a mag drill at work, although it was not a tilt they exchanged it without even batting an eye, thanks tjenus
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Hi tjenus,
You mean you brought the faulty tilt, together with the original accessories it came with, to the store and they replaced your set for a brand new, retail version, of the tilt?
What else was required, the receipt or anything?
Thanks!
Gerald
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Took mine right back to the ATT store for a damaged usb port, all they did was confirm it wouldn't read via the usb and exchanged it right there for a new one, i was told it was a 1 year replacement warranty on the phone, they didn't check a thing, give it a try, i have also exchanged one that was erased buy getting to close to a mag drill at work, although it was not a tilt they exchanged it without even batting an eye, thanks tjenus
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I call BS after being a AT-T customer for years I know for a fact they don't swap out phones even at corp... Stores they tell you to call in and have a warrenty replacment shipped to you. Thats just how it works UNLESS your withen the 14 day grace period then they would probably do it. The reason they do this according to AT-T is they don't have enough stock in each store to do swap outs. You best bet is to call AT-T and have them ship you a new one and flash abck to the origanl rom they don't check the SPL version what so ever they just look if it has water damage and any other visable signs of abuse.
I returned mine
I had this same thing happen. The USB failed to work after I dropped my phone. So seeing how I could not reflash it, I ran out all the power on it, until it had nothing....it would not even boot. With all the battery drained, I knew that even if they plugged it in, they would not see I had flashed the rom....though they could have used a new battery. I took it in, and told the local ATT reseller that the USB stopped working. It was within 30days of purchase. They took it back and exchanged it no questions asked. They didnt even test it. Now, i just wont drop my new one, lol.
Good luck.
Not entirely related, but for those who purchased an HTC TyTN II and try to have it repaired in the US, beware: it is not covered under warranty here. After just under 4-weeks I found the USB port was loose and would no longer take a charge. After more than 4-weeks in HTC America and after refusing to accept their assessment of "User Abuse" and the $300 mainboard repair cost, they finally shipped it back to me, mainboard replaced via Fedex Ground... according to several HTC America reps I spoke with - there have been numerous similar cases reported to them since the TyTN II debut two months ago. Perseverence may pay off -- although I should have known better, my next purchase won't be through a parallel importer.
Cheers
hah. did this too.. called at&t and had them warranty exchange it. i just bent it back around with the stylus enough that it would work so that could revert back so i could send it back. havent heard anything from them.. so im assuming there not gonna charge me
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Not entirely related, but for those who purchased an HTC TyTN II and try to have it repaired in the US, beware: it is not covered under warranty here. After just under 4-weeks I found the USB port was loose and would no longer take a charge. After more than 4-weeks in HTC America and after refusing to accept their assessment of "User Abuse" and the $300 mainboard repair cost, they finally shipped it back to me, mainboard replaced via Fedex Ground... according to several HTC America reps I spoke with - there have been numerous similar cases reported to them since the TyTN II debut two months ago. Perseverence may pay off -- although I should have known better, my next purchase won't be through a parallel importer.
Cheers
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i own a tytn 2 in the usa and got the same from htc. my usb got messed up a little on its own than i stuck the stencil in there and it barely worked(had to wiggle it) anyways i found a repair center but they didnt have parts. ordered the parts from ppc techs and they sent me a different connector. its the same one in the sprint mogul which i think is a better build. so they replaced it and everything is perfect with the charging now but they did something with my hinge. its off a little. can anyone point me in the right direction to take my phone apart so i can fiddle with the hinge? any help is greatly appreciated
Hi,
I just got a Tilt from craigslist. The phone came with the At&T box, but unfortunately I forgot to get the receipt. Now the USB port is broken and I want to see if I can return for warranty.
The phone still has the AT&T ROM and infact I havent unlocked it. So will this be a problem if I just say I dont have the receipt but the rest and returned it with the box?
Please help!!!
ramnan said:
Hi,
I just got a Tilt from craigslist. The phone came with the At&T box, but unfortunately I forgot to get the receipt. Now the USB port is broken and I want to see if I can return for warranty.
The phone still has the AT&T ROM and infact I havent unlocked it. So will this be a problem if I just say I dont have the receipt but the rest and returned it with the box?
Please help!!!
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Not unless you are the original one that bought it from AT-T they will say sorry buddy !! you could try but I would save my breath
Hi
I had the same Issue - but it was fixed inside warranty!
But I was runing "original" rom.
But the somehow made the "reset" button work strange now - So it will go back once more.
BR
Daniel
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I don't want to sit here and ***** but I need to let some of this off my chest.
My gf bought me a brand new diamond from the Europe (no proof of purchase).
Now I'm not totally concerned with the battery life, speaker volume, in-call volume, etc as I know tweaks will show up for this phone slowly slowly.
My main concern that is KILLING me and I'm afraid I can't do anything about it is my screen. Its crystal clear, but I seem to have two spots at the bottom of the screen that turn yellowish on a white screen and whitish on a black screen?
Is it safe to assume I got a faulty unit and I'm pretty much stuck with it?
I'm honestly extremely furious with this, and they are not that visible unless im on certain screens but knowing that they exist simply kills me.
I have attached a picture which should give you a decent example of how it looks. Its not that visible with this shot. One blotch right above the HTC logo and the other to the very left of that.
http://i50.photobucket.com/albums/f342/burns959/SPM_A0027.jpg
Call HTC service/support they should do an in warranty repair. There is no need for proof of purchase because they can just warranty it off the build date. I had to do this with one of my Tilts, did not have a receipt but they repaired it under warranty for free based off the build date. It did take 2 weeks for the whole process though.
Jeff
HI,
The battery life and other tweaks are already around and they have a made a massive difference to my diamond. (latest UK rom and a few tweaks)
You should not be stuck with it... have you called HTC ? how come you have no proof of purchase ? Even so you should still be able to contact HTC give them the serial number and be able to send it back. You may have to wait while it is fixed but hey its worth it.
The only other option is to buy a new screen (about £70) and fit yourself.
I can see how it would bug you just knowing the screen issue is there, but i am sure you are not the only person to have a fault, these things do happen.
I would be interested to hear what HTC have to say.
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I don't want to sit here and ***** but I need to let some of this off my chest.
My gf bought me a brand new diamond from the Europe (no proof of purchase).
Now I'm not totally concerned with the battery life, speaker volume, in-call volume, etc as I know tweaks will show up for this phone slowly slowly.
My main concern that is KILLING me and I'm afraid I can't do anything about it is my screen. Its crystal clear, but I seem to have two spots at the bottom of the screen that turn yellowish on a white screen and whitish on a black screen?
Is it safe to assume I got a faulty unit and I'm pretty much stuck with it?
I'm honestly extremely furious with this, and they are not that visible unless im on certain screens but knowing that they exist simply kills me.
I have attached a picture which should give you a decent example of how it looks. Its not that visible with this shot. One blotch right above the HTC logo and the other to the very left of that.
http://i50.photobucket.com/albums/f342/burns959/SPM_A0027.jpg
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Since youve got this device early in its life (WAAAAAAAY under a year) get in contact with HTC and they will probably just ask for the serial number from under the cover.
I returned my TyTN after around 2 months to get the screen alignment issue fixed, they didnt ask for proof of purchase even though I had it etc....so wasnt a problem.
Had this been a year later then it might be a different story
Get onto HTC about it....and be calm with them remember this sort of thing always happens with consumer electronics it is nothing personal.
No it's not very visible!
Do you need proof of purchase for a repair? It's not like it could be out of it's warranty. If you do then contact the retailer or get a bank statement.
You're not alone though. I have a small guy inside mine waving a torch at me just above the home key. He's a little sh*t, but I'm the bigger person so choose to ignore him.
I have to agree with these guys. I'm on my 3rd or 4th HTC product and I'm here to tell you that their service is SECOND TO NONE.
They are one of the few companies if you call their customer service, they actually answer the phone, speak english and resolve your problem without putting you on hold.
Call them, you shouldn't have any issues.
Mark
Wow, I already feel so much better. I mean i was so hyped up with the VGA screen with this phone but it did let me down. I hope HTC acknowledge this problem and fix it for me.
I had initially contacted HTC America for repairs and they told me to call Europe. I did but they were closed. I sent out an email to HTC europe and I'm waiting for a response. Maybe it's better if I pick up the phone and call them in person?
I will report tomorrow if anything happens in regards to this topic.
UPDATE:
I contacted HTC America and told them about my problem, and to my surprise they were extremely helpful thus far and are taking my phone in for repair.
They asked where the phone was purchased and I told them, but did not ask for a proof of purchase.
I will be sending it out tomorrow and hopefully receive it back in 2 weeks time maximum. After that, let the modding begin
+1 for HTC support - really great service.
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Forgot to mention; First person I talked to was not able to help me out and told me to contact HTC Europe. Hung up the phone and called again and I went right through
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UPDATE:
Forgot to mention; First person I talked to was not able to help me out and told me to contact HTC Europe. Hung up the phone and called again and I went right through
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some muppets do occasionally escape form jim hensons workshop!
Had to send mine in for repair due to the earpiece speaker had an annoying buzz at medium to high levels. Called HTC UK, told them the problem, they said they can repair it no problem, they sent an UPS delivery driver to collect my phone from my house. They received it next day.
Took about 10 days in repair but came back today well packed in a small box, gave it a good test and it now works perfectly .
When I received it back they left the test rom, radio and boot screen on it and wiped the internal storage. Made a backup before I sent it though .
First repair I have sent to HTC as usually all my HTC phones I have are through Orange UK and if I have any faults, they send out a replacement handset in less than 24hrs to the door, driver gives me new phone and I give them the faulty one .
For excellent customer service I give HTC a 10 out of 10
So maybe I should wait a couple more weeks before I send it in. Then there is a possibility of a replacement with a working US 3G version
So about 45 days ago I purchased a new Tilt off ebay. Big mistake but the people at Best Buy had me convinced that they stopped making them. Yesterday out of no where my keyboard went dead and my phone started acting up. Currently I can't leave my phone on without it starting the note program and recording sound clips until the memory is full.
At this point I was just wondering what my options are. Will AT&T exchange my phone for a refurbished one? Is there anyway I could sent the phone to HTC to get it repaired. Are there any reliable companies that I could send the phone to? I have heard stories about people just bringing the phone into a AT&T store and getting it swapped out. Am I out $400?
If you got it off ebay, att doesnt want anything to do with it. You can try for HTC support, but i have no idea how HTC is with that kind of stuff.
Do a hard reset, and see if that helps any.
I wonder if it's just a faulty keyboard and it's causing shortcuts to open the notes software.
What other things are happening?
Could be a cable loose inside or the keyboard circuit board could have slipped out of place. This happened on mine.
HTC wont touch an HTC device under warranty without a receipt (from original purchase) Branded devices they wont touch without them coming from the network.
Paid repairs are different, they'll carry out the repairs for you, and invoice you for the repairs. They also charge for a quotation for repairs if you dont get it repaired (£20 in the UK I think, no idea outside of the UK)
If the phone keeps recording notes, it could be something as simple as a button being stuck. my solution with old devices was to mash the buttons as much as possible, and it generally unstuck them.
If your device is 45 days old (to you) then to be fair, its not likely to be an issue that the seller knew about, as its something thats occured since then. Issues can occur at any stage in a devices life, its just unfortunate that yours has chosen now to go wrong.
If you're not looking to pay to get the device fixed, it may be something as simple as opening the case up, and cleaning around the keyboard/extra buttons and re-assembling it, but if you're unsure on how to do this, I'd recommend not trying. When I opened my old 9100 to try and clean it up, something went sproing, and I lost a spring... I could never use the bottom row on the keyboard after that.
I've had good experiences with HTC.
SpugDarktyde said:
HTC wont touch an HTC device under warranty without a receipt (from original purchase) Branded devices they wont touch without them coming from the network.
Paid repairs are different, they'll carry out the repairs for you, and invoice you for the repairs. They also charge for a quotation for repairs if you dont get it repaired (£20 in the UK I think, no idea outside of the UK)
If the phone keeps recording notes, it could be something as simple as a button being stuck. my solution with old devices was to mash the buttons as much as possible, and it generally unstuck them.
If your device is 45 days old (to you) then to be fair, its not likely to be an issue that the seller knew about, as its something thats occured since then. Issues can occur at any stage in a devices life, its just unfortunate that yours has chosen now to go wrong.
If you're not looking to pay to get the device fixed, it may be something as simple as opening the case up, and cleaning around the keyboard/extra buttons and re-assembling it, but if you're unsure on how to do this, I'd recommend not trying. When I opened my old 9100 to try and clean it up, something went sproing, and I lost a spring... I could never use the bottom row on the keyboard after that.
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This isn't my experience.
I've had a couple of dealings with HTC UK and have been very happy:
1) Ebay-sourced Tornado failed screen - I phoned HTC and from the IMEI number they got the manufacturing date, worked out it was under a year old, and fixed it for free
2) ebay-sourced Artemis - I dropped it, bent the casing. I phoned HTC and they fixed it as a paid repair for 65UKP. This included a complete recase. When I noticed some of the buttons were a bit sticky afterwards, they did a second repair replacing the controls for free, despite it almost certainly being a problem caused by my initial dropping.
3) ebay-sourced Qtek 8500. Had a problem with the LCD failing when the clamshell was flexed. Again, phoned HTC UK and replaced under warranty.
They've been prompt, have native helpdesks, cheap and generally couldn't have been more helpful - definitely worth approaching them. This contrasts with, say, Nokia and is a major part of why I like HTC products.
Ric
Richie V6 said:
So about 45 days ago I purchased a new Tilt off ebay. Big mistake but the people at Best Buy had me convinced that they stopped making them. Yesterday out of no where my keyboard went dead and my phone started acting up. Currently I can't leave my phone on without it starting the note program and recording sound clips until the memory is full.
At this point I was just wondering what my options are. Will AT&T exchange my phone for a refurbished one? Is there anyway I could sent the phone to HTC to get it repaired. Are there any reliable companies that I could send the phone to? I have heard stories about people just bringing the phone into a AT&T store and getting it swapped out. Am I out $400?
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The first thing u should do is figure out if it is hardware or software related. Just do a hardreset and see if that helps. If not, then its most likely hardware related.
Check in Settings - Buttons what button is assigned to the recorder (usually the one on the left side), remove that assignment.
The button must be stuck or the sensor below it faulty, so it senses that button always pressed.
Richie V6 said:
So about 45 days ago I purchased a new Tilt off ebay. Big mistake but the people at Best Buy had me convinced that they stopped making them. Yesterday out of no where my keyboard went dead and my phone started acting up. Currently I can't leave my phone on without it starting the note program and recording sound clips until the memory is full.
At this point I was just wondering what my options are. Will AT&T exchange my phone for a refurbished one? Is there anyway I could sent the phone to HTC to get it repaired. Are there any reliable companies that I could send the phone to? I have heard stories about people just bringing the phone into a AT&T store and getting it swapped out. Am I out $400?
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This isn't my experience.
I've had a couple of dealings with HTC UK and have been very happy:
1) Ebay-sourced Tornado failed screen - I phoned HTC and from the IMEI number they got the manufacturing date, worked out it was under a year old, and fixed it for free
2) ebay-sourced Artemis - I dropped it, bent the casing. I phoned HTC and they fixed it as a paid repair for 65UKP. This included a complete recase. When I noticed some of the buttons were a bit sticky afterwards, they did a second repair replacing the controls for free, despite it almost certainly being a problem caused by my initial dropping.
3) ebay-sourced Qtek 8500. Had a problem with the LCD failing when the clamshell was flexed. Again, phoned HTC UK and replaced under warranty.
They've been prompt, have native helpdesks, cheap and generally couldn't have been more helpful - definitely worth approaching them. This contrasts with, say, Nokia and is a major part of why I like HTC products.
Ric
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Dont get me wrong, I wasnt slating HTC for their support, I'm with you on that one. I've just seen jobs that have been bounced back from them (rightfully so) and was just giving the worst case scenario, that being that HTC dont actually have to fix it.
the agent or att will not help you, you got it from eBay and even if they help it will be for extra $$ so you may well just override that idea
first thing we must be sure if its hardware failure or software failure
if its software then you need to read lots but eventually you will have to get a new ROM and start from scratch eliminate all 3rd party ( so i advice using stocked ROM)
look at this it might help http://rapidshare.com/files/103168855/HTC_Kaiser_Service_Manual_jas_pik.pdf
this is the repair manual for kaiser
Square Trade
After this happened to me the first time I got some bunk electronics from ebay, I started using squaretrade.com. They will give you a warranty at about 50% of the cost of a Manufacturer/Dealer warranty and have a five day fix/replacement guarantee.
I would like to thank everyone for their reply I can see this is a dedicated community.
Starscreamer said:
I wonder if it's just a faulty keyboard and it's causing shortcuts to open the notes software.
What other things are happening?
Could be a cable loose inside or the keyboard circuit board could have slipped out of place. This happened on mine.
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Last night I reverted back to my factory rom but this did not fix the problem. Some odd things that I noticed that has me completely baffled is that only the directional keys (up, down, right, left) work on the keyboard but nothing else works. I tried doing a hard reset but that didn't wont since the 2 soft keys are not responding.
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the agent or att will not help you, you got it from eBay and even if they help it will be for extra $$ so you may well just override that idea
first thing we must be sure if its hardware failure or software failure
if its software then you need to read lots but eventually you will have to get a new ROM and start from scratch eliminate all 3rd party ( so i advice using stocked ROM)
look at this it might help http://rapidshare.com/files/103168855/HTC_Kaiser_Service_Manual_jas_pik.pdf
this is the repair manual for kaiser
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That manual seems very complete if I can't get HTC to fix it I will attempt to fix it myself. Does anyone know if I can purchase replacement part?
There's some hope for you. I bought my Tilt off of Ebay. AT&T warranted it from the day that it hit their network with my SIM card. So although it was originally purchased from AT&T (by the ebayer seller) on Oct 17th 2007, my warranty started December 6th 2007. No receipt required. They swapped it no problem. The TILT has a 365 day warranty via AT&T.
Just make sure you deal with a service center and not the individual stores. Go to attwireless.com and search for "TILT Warranty" .. look for the service center information.
Mine was swapped with no hassle in about 5minutes (I had a rom issue). One note if you go this route, check the replacement! My replacement has key-sticking issues (the right key on the keyboard gets stuck down, etc). The speaker (for phonecalls, not external) also is a little more muted than my old one (I sometimes have trouble hearing people). I may rewarranty it.
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Here: http://www.wireless.att.com/answer-center/main.jsp?t=solutionTab&solutionId=KB64687
The service centers are contractors (I could tell by their shirts, saying "Company Name: Authorized AT&T Tech"), so I really don't think they care, as long as they can warranty it they will because it is more money for them. Just my thought.
As the above poster said, AT&T WILL do warranty exchanges on tilts bought through ebay or otherwise. I bought one off of craigslist and had it exchanged when a key on the keyboard stopped working. No problem. It is warrantied for 1 year after it is first used on their system.
The people stating otherwise are flat out wrong.
Thanks for the advice guys I was able to take the phone to a AT&T service center and swap the phone for a new one.
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Thanks for the advice guys I was able to take the phone to a AT&T service center and swap the phone for a new one.
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No problem. Glad to hear.
It was a nice surprise for me last week, as I thought I was out $400 for a new one or stuck to using a temporary phone until the Touch Pro came.
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No problem. Glad to hear.
It was a nice surprise for me last week, as I thought I was out $400 for a new one or stuck to using a temporary phone until the Touch Pro came.
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The touch pro is very sexy
congratulations
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The touch pro is very sexy
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Hi all,
My touchscreen stopped working a week ago, no new installations, no new changes. It just stopped responding to the clicks on the screen, in the middle of a phone call. Resetting did not help, Hardreset neigher... as I got stuck at the first time boot screen where the WM wants to calibrate the touchscreen and you have to click on the displayed marks. I bought it 7 month ago so I decided to RMA it. After flushing my data, i delivered it to a local 3 butik. Since I had no doubts about the competence of the tech guys at the service center I left the Dutty Rom installed, instead of reverting to the original 3 rom.
Today, after a 3 days repair estimate they sent me a repair offer for almost 700$ for just reinstalling the original ROM since they are absolutely sure this is where the problem lies (prolly they thought Dutty ROM was magically working for months, until the magic depleted?).
So they are sending me my Diamond back, so that I could reflash it with the original 3 and RMA it again..
Has anyone else experienced this "fun"?
I guess I'll stay away from 3 next time. (Good marketing, decent people, but really awful service)
Same problem. Today returned from service. The screen has been changee. No warranty, it was 111 €.
My touchscreen stopped working, soft reset didn't help. I didn't try hard reset, so maybe it's not the same, but when I removed the battery for the moment it started working. Try it
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My touchscreen stopped working, soft reset didn't help. I didn't try hard reset, so maybe it's not the same, but when I removed the battery for the moment it started working. Try it
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Thanks, i did try that as well, no luck. looks like there is a hardware problem.
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Same problem. Today returned from service. The screen has been changee. No warranty, it was 111 €.
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s.magus, what do you mean no warranty? isn't there a warranty from HTC? Which country did you buy the phone it, and when did you buy it?
unless there is an evidence of a physical misuse (broken screen or etc.) aren't they supposed to repair on their own expense!
I have warranty, but the service does not repair it under warranty. They say, it is the users fault. Too much pressure on the screen.
The saga ends tonight
Well, there have been some developments..more of complications.
Here's the short chronology of the RMA.
1) repairman refused to look at the phone, since he said there was a wrong software. and returned the phone. they charge 44$ if their repair offer is not accepted.
2) I reflashed back to the original 3 Rom, but left the Hard SPL in (overestimated their honesty)
3) repairman refuses to look at the phone, since he said there was a wrong software. and returned the phone. this time they tried charging 49$ claiming the prices went up. I did not have any agreement with them (the paper I signed when I delivered the phone says 44$), so I did not care about what happened to their prices, I pushed on 3; 3 pushed on them, i will pay 44$ again. 3 Denmark is paying the 5$ (They are "pleased" with their repair partner)
I can't blame the repairman (I guess his doing his job)
HTC said they are not obliged to service the phone under the warranty, but the support guy shared that they do not prohibit the repair center from servicing the phone either, even if the software is different, as long as the software does not look like the error causing factor, so the choice is on the repair shops discression.
Well in case of the Number1Service (which 3 Denmark uses), I know a guy who claims his board was replaced there (screen artifacts, but replacing the screen did not help), even though he was using a coocked ROM.
There're only two explanations i can see here.
1) the repairman was smart to see that the cooked rom could not have been an issue
2) The touch module costs 19$ to buy for people like us (and a lot cheaper for the repair centers/HTC), so perhaps it was not worth looking into an issue, since they could easily get 50$ if they did not repair the phone. The repair center is not a part of HTC, so they can play both ways (either get paid by HTC, or get paid by the user)
Be warned, don't put high hope on the service people if you are on a cooked software. If you have an RMA to go through:
- Flash your original ROM back
- Flash the original SPL back
HTC will take any chance to play it's "warraty void" trick. Perhaps it's a common case for other manufacturers as well, but I don't have any experience with those.
Even in Russia (which people sometimes underestimate in terms of the legislation), if you can not get the goods serviced under the warranty due to the warranty being void, the manufacturer is required by law to analyze and prove that the factor voiding the warranty is the actual cause for the problem observed in a serviced item.
The repairshop kindly offered to waive the 44$ fee if I left the phone for their "recycling". I appreciated their offer, but I requested the the phone back.
Has anyone else serviced their phone with a cooked ROM under the warranty?
Hi Guys
Just wanted to post my frustration regarding their service center. Its already been a week and the "good" folks there can't get their act together.
Dropped off my phone 7 days ago(Monday) at HTC as it had the much reported faulty power button.As my phone had a few scratches on it, I also asked for a quotation to have the casing replaced.
This is where it gets crazy..
I received an email from HTC 3 days later(wednesday) telling me my phone has been assessed and the quotion is as follows. Except there was no price listed on the email.
As I was out of the country I did not call up the service center for clarification.
Received an identical email from HTC the following day(Thursday) with no price on it as well. I only got back late Thursday night and hence called HTC first thing Friday morning for clarification.
Turns out, HTC records show that I had rejected their quotation when i hadn't even spoken to them!
Anyway, as I had an unlocked boot loader, I was aware that I would be hit with repair fees. However, HTC wanted to change my mainboard because I have a Third Party ROM which I quote, "is illegal!" The thing is, My phone has been rolled back to stock. Complete stock! Which means even the recovery is stock! I kept insisting that my phone is not running on any 3rd party ROM but they sent me a picture of the unlocked padlock saying that that shows I have a "3rd Party ROM installed and it is illegal".
I had an important meeting to attend to so I had run out. The next day(sat) I called HTC to further understand why they need to replace my motherboard and that i have no third party ROM. I also only require them to fix my power button. Turns out the service support guy said I had already accepted the charges to repair yesterday!!!
I told him I have not and would like to speak to the engineer who inspected my phone for clarification. He told me that the earliest I could speak to him is on Monday.
I have called HTC twice so far today(Monday) to have hem transfer me over to that enginnerbut despite them saying they will arrange for him to call me, I have yet to receive his call.
My take is, aside from the complete misunderstanding of an unlocked boot-loader and 3rd party ROM, does anyone know if they need to replace the motherboard just to fix the power button? (which happens to be a known problem with the earlier batches of N1)
I am utterly frustrated with HTC's support for this phone. It's enough for me to swear of HTC entirely and look at Motorola now..
That is just crazy. I have heard many good things about HTC service lately. And its not like the failing power button isn't a known common issue. What the hell HTC.
That's messed up. Don't let up. Keep at it
I have half a mind to make the trip down to the service center to get to the bottom of this. I have a strong suspicion the engineer is not going to return my call and they are simply shafting the Nexus One users..
RogerPodacter said:
That is just crazy. I have heard many good things about HTC service lately. And its not like the failing power button isn't a known common issue. What the hell HTC.
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Well, the dude is not from the US. The HTC service center in his country is probably f*cked up.
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Well, the dude is not from the US. The HTC service center in his country is probably f*cked up.
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oh that's probably exactly the problem. how sucky...
Hey guys
Thanks for replying. Yes the call center is indeed sucky. Despite calling a local number, I get a distinct impression that I am speaking to helpdesk agents in China. (gotta love outsourcing) Anyway, fed-up with them for giving me the run around, I made the trip down to the service Center. (I saw lots of ppl holding on to desire phones waiting for their turn to have their device serviced).
Finally got to speak to the service personnel there and explained to her the entire situation.
The conversation went something like this
HTC Rep: Our records show you have a third party ROM. That will constitute a motherboard replacement.
I patently explained to her that I have an unlocked boot loader which means all i did was void the warranty. It does not require a motherboard replacement.
Her next response was, "the power button is connected to the motherboard which would require the mother board to be replaced".
I told her I was skeptical about that as there is a widespread belief on the internet that HTC's SOP is to replace the motherboard of any Nexus one that has an unlocked boot loader. Secondly, this is a known defect of the early batches of Nexus ones and I do not appreciate how my case was being handled.
She said she will have an engineer come out an explain it to me.
So i waited, while she went into the backroom. After several minutes, she emerged unaccompanied and told me that they had waved the charges to repair my power button!
Secondly, she gave me the quotation to replace the scratched casing and asked if I agreed to it. Of which i readily agreed! (I had asked for that in the first place)
Lesson learned is to keep pressing HTC to see the engineer who assessed the phone. I have a feeling the engineers are not interested in facing the customer and will fix the power button, should it come to that
The Singapore HTC Service Center always messes things up. I hated my experiences there.
When I came into the service center at Keppel Towers there was no proper signage or instructions on how to get a queue number and I had to figure it out after 5 minutes of roaming around in the room during my first time there.
I specifically told the CSO that I wanted the courier guy to call me before delivering the items and he never did. Twice he appeared at my office without calling me.
Btw, how much were you quoted for the casing change?
Cost me SGD $224.70 (inclusive of GST) It's definitely steep. But if you went the DIY route (voiding the warranty and possibly breaking the phone) a replacement casing will set you back USD$90.
You can buy it here.
http://mobile.brando.com/google-nexus-one-replacement-housing_p05399c0670d088.html
Wow, I'm in the US and had a great experience. My power button went out so I called them on a Saturday and talked to a very nice lady who simply asked if I wanted it repaired of replaced. I opted for repair.
I sent it via Fed-Ex Monday afternoon and got it back Thursday morning. It was rooted and running the leaked Froyo but came back locked on stock 2.1 with a different IMEI number. I assumed they just switched phones instead of repairing it, but now I'm not so sure, maybe the motherboard thing is true or maybe they do replace them if they're rooted. Dunno why, I had it rooted and running Cyan an hour after getting it back, but I would be interested in knowing if I have the same phone with a different motherboard or a different phone.
But they didn't give me any hassles with the rooting or custom rom. I got an email saying it had arrived and they were assessing it's condition, and one the next day saying it was ready and would be delivered the next day, and that was the end of our interaction.
Guess the N1 users in Singapore arn't so fortunate. Anyway, I should get my phone by tomorrow...After which i'll try the alternate root approach (where I dont have to unlock the bootloader) cos I probably wont be so lucky the next time around
Mine is sent in for dust under the screen for the 2nd time already. I called the other day to check the status since it's been over 14 days and I have not received it back.
I was told that every time your phone is sent in for repair that they change the imei number, and in order to do that they have to swap out the motherboard. Now this may not be correct but this is what I was told.
Also I was informed that they are in the process of relocating their repair facility to another location and my phone will be another week or so. I am now going on 3 weeks without it.
When i sent it in the first time for dust the screen was not loose, when I got it back and pulled it out of the box it was loose.
I know that this is not the power button issue but I was just throwing in my experience and what I was told about the imei/motherboard deal.
Guys
Just got my phone back! Power button is working now but guess what...My bootloader is stillUNLOCKED. They did not replace the motherboard. My phone was still on the FRF83 ROM and the moment I powered it up, i got the OTA update for FRF91.
After all that drama where HTC tried to shove down my throat that I needed to change my motherboard, they did not need to do it.
I am happy I finally got my phone back but I am really, really furious about this whole thing cos that just proved that they were trying to rip me off..
HTC has lost one customer.
I have a totally different experience
I got the button broken, expected to be charged and sent to the service center.
Ended up not charging me, and they replaced the motherboard, the button, and the track ball.
Everything done without charge, *OUT OF WARRANTY*
Repaired mine myself. Got the part through ebay for $24.00. Google search shows step by step. Not a big deal. Works like new.
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