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change my thunderbolt for a droid bionic or not?

What do u guys thing keep thunderbolt or change for bionic?

CARLITOZ18 said:
What do u guys thing keep thunderbolt or change for bionic?
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Just came from a ThunderBolt check out my review: Link

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Thanks i wiil wait for some othee phones

Yea I just switched from my cm7 thunderbolt that I got on launch day at the Verizon store I work at and I'm kind of uneasy about the switch I made but my thunderbolt sold that day for 200of the 300 that it cost for the bionic so no going back now. Either way worst case scenario I upgrade on of the phones on my contract lines to a quad core next year. So if you have the opportunity to switch later go for it but if you have to keep it for 20months I would wait
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open1your1eyes0 said:
Just came from a ThunderBolt check out my review: Link
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Good review
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I've had the Bionic for 2 days and returned it. Back on the Thunderbolt.
I recommend waiting another month or so. Something else will come out.

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Just came from a ThunderBolt check out my review: Link
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That is exactly what I am doing.......Switching from the Thunderbolt to the Bionic.
It has been painless so far. Switched the 4G sim cards and SD cards. Then pointed TiBu to where to backups were and restored all my apps from the Thunderbolt.
The Bionic is blazing fast and the battery is awesome. But need more testing for battery life to get a better results....

I also came from a Thunderbolt.. and in my opinion, the Bionic while being a very nice phone and powerful - feels very intermediary to the next "big thing".. It doesn't feel like "the phone to have for the next year" to me... Either way, haven't sold my Tbolt and i'm giving it about 10 days before deciding if i'm keeping the Bionic or returning it.

Diversion said:
I also came from a Thunderbolt.. and in my opinion, the Bionic while being a very nice phone and powerful - feels very intermediary to the next "big thing".. It doesn't feel like "the phone to have for the next year" to me... Either way, haven't sold my Tbolt and i'm giving it about 10 days before deciding if i'm keeping the Bionic or returning it.
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Same here. Truly hate the screen. Like almost everything else. Battery has been better but not amazing. I'll keep it and sell it for the prime.
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I personally don't own a TB, but know several who do. The Bionic is a much nicer phone in just about every aspect. Battery life is much better not just a little. "Reviews" of the Bionic are only opinionated "initial impressions" just like my statement above
And the screen....coming from an amoled and slcd Inc....it's actually very nice. The best outdoor viewing I've seen on any phone.

bionic screen and no data+voice over 3g
hate the screen.
hate the fact that one cannot do data + voice over 3g like the t-bolt
love the build quality
love the call quality
net, net - keeping my bolt for either the htc vigor (oct. 6 launch according to sources on the web).

biswasd said:
hate the fact that one cannot do data + voice over 3g like the t-bolt
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That is my only gripe so far. That should be standard on all LTE phones.
I'm going to use it for another week and decide. Battery life and screen is the only thing making me think twice about going back to the tv.

Keeping the bionic, wifey gets the TB. Like someone else in this thread stated, the bionic feels like an intermediate step forward rather than a leap. Still, I'm quite happy with it. I refuse to obsess over the pentile screen. Has any other TB owner noticed how great this phone is in direct sunlight? The TB was tough to use outside.

biswasd said:
hate the screen.
hate the fact that one cannot do data + voice over 3g like the t-bolt
love the build quality
love the call quality
net, net - keeping my bolt for either the htc vigor (oct. 6 launch according to sources on the web).
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If you are in a 3g area, then I would wait. My data connection is worse than when the Thunderbolt just came out. I lose data for hours. I toggle modes (cdma/lte) switch airplane mode off and on, and reboot. Reboot works most often. When I'm on wifi and on cdma mode, the verizon data stays connected. But either way my battery (always on cdma) dies in less than 10 hours
If you use your phone outside then you'll like the Bionic screen.
I don't have an opinion if you are in a 4G area.
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Has any other TB owner noticed how great this phone is in direct sunlight? The TB was tough to use outside.
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Can you please elaborate on this point? I have a TBolt and it is impossible to read the screen in sunlight. How readable is the Bionic?

It's so bright you can read it outside with sunglasses on. It does however have a funny hue to it with sunglasses on that I don't have with the Thunderbolt
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jonno95 said:
It's so bright you can read it outside with sunglasses on. It does however have a funny hue to it with sunglasses on that I don't have with the Thunderbolt
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I didn't notice any hue with my Oakley's. Love being able to see the screen with them on.

In direct sunlight with sunglasses on it is very readable. I've never seen a smart phone screen this viewable in the sun.

I have a TB that I just went back to. Bionic is better, but with locked bootloader, wifi tether issues, and price, it isn't worth using my upgrade IMO. Now, if I wasn't already on a 4 g device like my old droid x, then I would say get a bionic, you will love it.

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I have a TB that I just went back to. Bionic is better, but with locked bootloader, wifi tether issues, and price, it isn't worth using my upgrade IMO. Now, if I wasn't already on a 4 g device like my old droid x, then I would say get a bionic, you will love it.
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I am having that exact debate with myself. Already having a 4g device do I need this phone? Call quality is 100 times better though.
Having full control of my TB is nice. I can tether at will and talk and surf on 3g.

Trade in Bionic?

So I went from a thunderbolt to a bionic and not sure whether I like the bionic or not. I was thinking of trading it for a charge or even a x2. With the tbolt and bionic I constantly loose data and am without date for a while while my friends with 3g phones have service. What do you think is the best thing to do

Er, the Charge and X2 are both absolutely terrible phones, even compared to the BIONIC. I've used all three. The Charge has the same data-dropping issue. The Charge is also ungodly slow (Hummingbird processor - same as the original Galaxy S), extremely poorly built, and TouchWiz is awful. The only good thing about it is the display.
The DX2 is also very unimpressive in terms of performance, has very poor custom ROM support, and a terrible display. And 3G only? I guess if you live in an area without 4G, that's OK, but it's just an outdated piece of kit.
The BIONIC is vastly superior to both (except for the Charge's screen). Stick on Liberty ROM or a custom launcher, and the performance vastly improves. Data dropping is an issue with all Verizon 4G devices. Going for a DX2 or Charge would just be going from bad to worse.

So stock with what I got? The other reason I don't want the phone is because of the random reboots that happen. If I root will it correct that issue

Th3demolitionman said:
So stock with what I got? The other reason I don't want the phone is because of the random reboots that happen. If I root will it correct that issue
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Well if those are your only choices. The rezound is a much better device.
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After the thunderbolt, I'm not a big fan of htc

Th3demolitionman said:
After the thunderbolt, I'm not a big fan of htc
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Why? My thunderbolt works better. Thanks my bionic and it's 8 months old and was the first 4G LTE device. The bionic had like 7 more months in the oven and still doesn't work as well.
The rezound is fantastic.
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I would definately steer clear of the Charge. Slow and locks up, sketchy GPS and terrible connection to data. I had no connectivity issues with my Bionic. I loved that phone and the battery was good. I now have the Rezound. My son has the Bioninc. If you had connection issuses wiht one Motorola, probably gonna have them with another. I had worse data connections with the RAZR than the Bionic. you can just turn the Bionic to 3G only if that is what you are trying to do. If it does not hold a connection and continually reboots, might be the actual phone. Maybe get a different Bionic. I never had the reboot problems either and was fast between 3g and 4g and held a connection better thatn the Tbolt, Charge and revolution. Yes, I know, I have a phone problem. Had them all. If you have to get a new phone and dont want the bionic, stick with the Rezound. If you hate HTC, hold out for the Galaxy Nexus/Prime over the Charge.

+1 for avoiding the Charge. I had reception issues that caused voice calls to cut in and out. Also had major issues with GPS locking. Never had data issues with it, but that was about the only thing that worked well. Experienced lots of lag/redraw which I would assume can be attributed to the lack of RAM along with the dated processor.

Traded in the charge for the bionic and I was happy that I did. Charge locked up, and ran slow. I love my Bionic.

Thanks for the advice everyone, for now i will keep my bionic and search for someone who trade a rezound. I dont want to pay full retail for one, With both my bionic and thunderbolt i have date issues so i think its the carrier. With the thunderbolt i did like the screen and camera better but the bionic is a lot faster and all my sms.

I was thinking of the same thing: trade the bionic back in.
For work I end up going between 3g/4g and wifi a few times each day and the phone would lose data atleast 2-3 times every day. Most times airplane mode would fix it but there was a three weeks ago where i had to power cycle the phone twice in a row to get data to pick back up.... thats when i reactivated my OG droid incredible. I'll try the bionic when the next update comes out, see if that fixes my issues. Otherwise i'll wait for ICS.

I spoke to Verizon tech support who basically told me to wait for the update which should come out this week. They offered to "upgrade"my phone to a Droid 3 so I can have 3g at least. I refused and instead got credited for my data on my 3 lines. I'm trying to wait but I've had no internet about 75% of the day.

Data loss fix/bandaid that has reduced my data loss alot..
Set your battery mode to performance mode under settings. Also if you have juice defender installed remove that as well. Helped me.

It might be just a case of bad luck on phones you've received.
From my view, the Bionic was great...until the Razr, Rezound, Galaxy Nexus and ICS came onto the horizon. In the same boat as you are, and I have no idea what I'm going to do

[Q] bionic vs charge.. data device etc...

so i have had the charge for about 3 months love the screen pretty decent phone however my father in law offered to trade me for the bionic it has not been rooted has the most recent update can anyone tell what your opionions are has the update really solved the data issue or no do you regret going to the bionic biggest thing that makes me wanna jump ship is the fact that there will eventually be a official ics charge will never get it as far as i know anyway so how has the data been working howmany times do you lose data through out the day and for how long how the battery etc.. thanks need some insight before leaping

Do it and don't look back. I had the Charge for a few months and switched to the Bionic. For the first time in a long time I am happy with my device.

What about data how has it been working for you? That is my biggest issue ill probably just stay stock first phone in about 2 years I probably would be OK staying stock
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more responses would be appreciated....

Had the charge . Loved it! rooted it and what not .
Then the bionic came out (;

I have both. I swap a ton cause I'm learning to modify roms on the bionic, and the charge lets me still have an active phone while the bionic is in progress.
Both have data issues. Bionic is a far better device. Charge is slightly more consistent with holding data connection.
I'm in a 3g only area.
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Im in the same boat as the OP. I have the charge and tech support is sending me a bionic as a replacement. I am really hoping that data is much more consistent than the charges and doesn't drop nearly as much. I used to have the d2g and loved it except the random reboots. Does the bionic suffer from the same reboot issues?
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Wishing more people would pipe in :'(
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I've had both phones as well. The Bionic is the overall better device. The smoothness and speed of the device made it a clear choice over the Charge. Of course the Charge has a beautiful screen, but the Bionic screen isn't as bad as it's made out to be.
The recent update has fixed my data issues. No longer any need for me to toggle data or do random reboots in order to use my data. The battery life seems to be about the same, except for the fact that I don't have to jump through as many hoops (black wallpapers, lower screen brightness, turning off animations, and etc.) in order to get the Bionic to last all day. Go with the Bionic.
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Sweet I appreciate the feedback
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I bought the charge as an upgrade and have had many different issues with it. Battery life, call drops, screeching during calls, data outages etc. Bought a Bionic and would not go back. The gps alone is worth the swap. Connects in about 5 seconds.
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Never had data issue with bionic. I get kicked out of 4g all the time with charge and I had to airplane tackle or restart it all the time.

I had the Charge for a few months and was upgraded to the Bionic. I like the Bionic better, especially since the update. Data and a few other issues have been fixed on my Bionic! I really didn't notice much difference between the screens. For me, the Bionic is brighter than the Charge. The Charge, and I had three, seemed to get slightly better reception than the Bionic. I'm guessing it may have a better antenna. I also prefer the Samsung overlay to Motorola's. The Charge has a button to restart the phone, rather than just turn off. The Charge has an option for BCCing yourself on all emails. The Bionic does not. It's simple things like that that are missing on the Bionic. The Bionic is more powerful and has a longer useable lifespan. I plan to purchase an android tablet. Because of where I think Andoid is headed, I want both phone and tablet to have the same operating system. Because of this, having a phone that will be upgraded to ICS is important.
Even though the Charge is slightly more useable and may have a slightly better antenna, I found the Bionic to be slightly more reliable. With the upgrade to ICS coming and a dual core processor, the Bionic is my clear favorite between the two phones.

Droid 4...

I know people have made threads about the droid 4 before but this is me pondering with myself when im bored. Do u guys realize that pretty much the only major significant differences between the d3 and d4 is the fact that the d4 has about 500 more mb ram than d3 and it runs at 1.2 GHz and ours run at 1.0... welll i was thinking... we have overclock now so there goes that difference. Plus as overclock progresses and as time goes by i feel like we could hit as high as 1.5 safely. So pretty much the only major difference is the ram butt whooocaress? Like not to brag about our phones but Once were unlocked (which i feel like wont be much longer) our phone literally will be superior to any other android phone. What do you guys have to say (;
P.s. i could be missing specs but i feel like those 2 are the major ones.
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You forgot the LTE radio.

You also get ICS and Webtop support iirc

4g lte is major...

Will the Droid 4 be a Global phone again?

Yeahhh butt like i honestly feel like 3g is better than 4g i really do. I dont care for 4g at all.
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jarzy00 said:
Yeahhh butt like i honestly feel like 3g is better than 4g i really do. I dont care for 4g at all.
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i dont understand that. 4g is alot faster than 3g. only problem is battery life, and that is only if you dont know how to manage battery life ;]

What about the screen?

Another problem is that D4's LTE is only good for Verizon.
DYP, screen seems to be the same as D3's. Screenshots clearly showed pentile matrix and specs say TFT - so it must be the same crappy screen as D3.
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Dri94 said:
i dont understand that. 4g is alot faster than 3g. only problem is battery life, and that is only if you dont know how to manage battery life ;]
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Yeah i agree its faster but it pretty much is an upgraded 3g like it not always works. It sometimes drops. Data bills increase. Idk man i just dont really care for it. And yeah battery life decreases tremendously but once people are able to flash stuff for it it will improve. I feel like 4g has alot of improvement to do not gonna lie
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cant lie about lots of that. 4g is a great technology, its the carriers that arent using it to its full potential. If you look at the actual 4g capable speeds and the speeds the carriers are letting us have, you will be even more disappointed lol.
The battery sucking isses will hopefully be obsolete once carriers get more heavily engaged in research using fuel cells.

Everyone says the Droid 4 is what the Droid 3 should have been.
For my part, yeah, it kind of gets on my nerves, but not too much. 1G of RAM would be nice, but I rarely run out with 512MB. I don't stream multimedia, so 3g is fast enough for me.
And the price was nice, $150 with a data plan. So I have no complaints.
As things stand now, the Droid 4 will probably be my next phone in a year or or so.
jarzy00 said:
I know people have made threads about the droid 4 before but this is me pondering with myself when im bored. Do u guys realize that pretty much the only major significant differences between the d3 and d4 is the fact that the d4 has about 500 more mb ram than d3 and it runs at 1.2 GHz and ours run at 1.0... welll i was thinking... we have overclock now so there goes that difference. Plus as overclock progresses and as time goes by i feel like we could hit as high as 1.5 safely. So pretty much the only major difference is the ram butt whooocaress? Like not to brag about our phones but Once were unlocked (which i feel like wont be much longer) our phone literally will be superior to any other android phone. What do you guys have to say (;
P.s. i could be missing specs but i feel like those 2 are the major ones.
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What bout the fact that you can be on the phone and go online at the same time. not sure if that is true but if thats the case then that will come in very helpful to me for work.

I didn't know about that. Yeah, that's pretty sexy. It's annoying when I get/make a lot of calls and my IRC session constantly drops.
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What bout the fact that you can be on the phone and go online at the same time. not sure if that is true but if thats the case then that will come in very helpful to me for work.
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jarzy00 said:
Yeahhh butt like i honestly feel like 3g is better than 4g i really do. I dont care for 4g at all.
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Dri94 said:
i dont understand that. 4g is alot faster than 3g. only problem is battery life, and that is only if you dont know how to manage battery life ;]
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Battery life is not the only problem. I bought a Bionic in early October but had regular issues with random data drops - so that I had no LTE, 3G or 1X - in area where I know there is strong and solid Verizon 3G. There was also a nationwide, 24 hour data outage when I was ten days in. I exchanged the Bionic for the D3 because it was the best 3G phone on Verizon.
Since then there have been two more nationwide LTE outages (which also takes out 3G for the LTE phone, but not for 3G phones), and the Bionic forums are filled with people still complaining about random data drops. (Apparently this is fixed with an LTE SIM swap, but who has time to keep going in to Verizon for a new SIM?) Meanwhile, my D3 has been a solid, solid, solid data device every since I got it in mid-October.
LTE is still not mature and I think I'll be happier locked in to a solid 3G phone like the D3 rather than an immature LTE phone (because surely the hardware and network will get better in the next year or so) for the next 20 or so months. I would be happier if the D3 had been 1 GB RAM, but I don't feel it's that big a deal. I can tell you that it's frustrating when you need data access somewhere and find that the phone isn't getting data where you know that it should be.

If you turn off LTE and force CDMA on your 4g phone, you can can be locked into 3G connectivity. That said, I like having a removal battery. I like that I have the choice to buy the extended. I think Droid 4 will be a bust tbqh. More memory would be nice but with Dpwhitty11's ROM, I don't have a need for it.

I don't honestly care. Hash has the ICS ROM coming along well and when it has the camera to me it will be perfectly stable for an Alpha. I am glad that it works and yeah 4G would be nice but I don't care honestly.
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I do believe that someone is working on a ics rom for the RAZR. so assuming that the 2 phones will be comparable it should be relatively easy for someone to port it over to the droid 4 "ASSUMING" they are going to be similar.

Razr will get official ICS support, not sure why anyone would work on it on their own. It would merely be a waste of their time.
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ChristianPreachr said:
If you turn off LTE and force CDMA on your 4g phone, you can can be locked into 3G connectivity.
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3G connectivity is still affected by LTE outages on LTE phones. If LTE is down (as I believe it was again toady), 3G almost always is as well, though it is not for 3G-only phones. I also had as many random data drops with CDMA only mode as I did with LTE/CDMA on the Bionic.

Are you still happy with your Droid 3?

So I know a lot of people have moved on from the Droid 3. I am one of those people that is still perfectly happy with it. I have an extended 3500 math battery that gets me twice as far as stock and it has been a great phone. I also go case less and have come to realize that this is a tough phone after dropping it on concrete and wood floors many times. What so you think of yours?
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When i 1st got it it was a upgrade from a lg ally and i loved it i will like the razer but dont have the money for it but my droid 3 i love it its been the best phone i have had i have this $30 lather case for it its been a good phone and way faster then the other phone i had
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My XT860 is pretty good. I'm trying to get 2 years out of it, so far it's been only 8 months, but I think it might be able to go a little further.
If we could get ICS fully up and running, I don't think I'll look at getting a new phone until the 2 years have elapsed. I love the phone so much I am buying a secondary backup one from another xda member this weekend.
I have the extended battery in it which usually lasts me the full day. D4 doesn't have removable battery, what gives? I need a keyboard phone and love the power...

The phone is fine - it does everything that I need it to do, will be great through update time next June, and, unless there are a ton of apps that are ICS-only that come out by then, I think it will be fine even if it stays GB. I will likely keep this phone as a GSM travel phone unless my next phone can be the same, and just use the D3 when we are away from Verizon.

I love the droid3. The keyboard and everything about it. I do want the droid4 tho because i hate having things in my pocket. So a thinner phone would be nice
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Loving me Droid 3
Even though I've only had the phone for a few days I'll comment anyway. It is probably the best functioning handheld device I've ever had (I've been through quite a few over the years). It replaced a basically defunct make and model of phone that I had an extended warranty for.
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This thing is a horrid battery hog 26 minutes of solid use and it's down from 100% to 80%!

I'm now on my fourth D3 (since August), so not really too happy.

The D3 is OK w/me, love the keyboard,even tho a smaller screen than my other DX & DX2,no complaints, I like this better than my 'ol Inc2, only complaint is the 3G is way slower than with/fi.
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But I use the one click booster & that helps my 3G speed for a little bit. Bad reception area.

I'm happy with mine I had a extended battery but I had to send it back because it would only work half of the time. I got the profiles setup now with rom toolbox and it has been a huge asset. My next phone is going to be a htc phone miss having one though 90% of my phones have been Motorola

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So I know a lot of people have moved on from the Droid 3. I am one of those people that is still perfectly happy with it. I have an extended 3500 math battery that gets me twice as far as stock and it has been a great phone. I also go case less and have come to realize that this is a tough phone after dropping it on concrete and wood floors many times. What so you think of yours?
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Careful about the dropping. I thought mine was pretty tough, then one day I dropped about 1 foot while getting out of the car and cracked the screen real good.
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I always drop my phone carefully
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I have a case that is slightly bigger than the phone so I hopefully don't crack the screen. This phone has been good to me.
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Still love my D3. I've dropped it a ton since I decided to go caseless and aside from ugly chips on the corners (and some gouges in the screen) it has stood up well. I have a backup though just in case.
I won't make it the 2 years. I keep an eye out for busted up phones to fix, and the D4 just started popping up (and the parts to fix it) so I will be moving on as soon as I find a deal. Going to keep with the keyboard phones though.
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Droid 3 is solid
I started w/the D2,the X's,X2's,Inc2 now the D3. Love the KB. Ok slightly smaller screen but no problem. The D4 KB has other characters-no thanks & it's 4G,not ready for that here. I figure I'll let Red get it built first.
My D3 gives me no problems, the weight makes me feel like this cell is a solid phone, good sound,easy w/the root I've got 98 apps I use with still no problems. So I'd say I'm content & happy w/my Droid 3. No bugs I have to worry about w/my D3, I think Red shuold have carried it longer but 4G took it away.

I still love my Droid 3! It's the device of my dreams. With all the tweaks (esp. Atrix Camera), and rooted, deodexed stock 5.7.894 it's perfect. I wouldn't switch to the Droid 4, not really Global, thicker, no replaceable battery. I really love the screen and its great outdoor performance.

Problem with Android OS (Kernel)
I very love Droid 3.
But now, i have a problem. Android OS drain battery so much.My droid standby overnight. After 7h, Battery is 30%. I checked and see that Android OS is 82%.
I use Badass Bettery monitor to check, Kernel is 70%.
I don't know what is running?
Help me, Please.
Thanks
Droid 3 - Verizon

What apps do you have installed? Words with Friends will do that for me, and so will fb. I use the v6 script and it seems to help tame it.
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I've had it randomly happen. Did a battery pull and ut was dine
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MrObvious said:
What apps do you have installed? Words with Friends will do that for me, and so will fb. I use the v6 script and it seems to help tame it.
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Thanks for reply.
I have installed basic apps: yahoo, root explore, facebook, battery defender, taskmanager, easy task killer, map, battery calibrate, titanium backup.
What is the v6 script? can you guide me?
Thanks do much.
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Try uninstalling fb. Also search for V6 Supercharger Script. Basically you install Busybox, Script Manager, then download the script, run as root, and pick a setting and it optimizes RAM.
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