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Apple is suing HTC

Apple has filed a lawsuit against Taiwanese manufacturer HTC, citing 20 patent infringements including UI and hardware as well as architectural design.
Apple has filed suit in the US District Court, as well as the US International Trade Commission (ITC): the latter presumably in the hope of blocking HTC from importing patent-infringing electronics into the USA, but the details of the offending patents aren't yet clear.
"We think competition is healthy, but competitors should create their own original technology, not steal ours," says Steve Jobs in the canned statement from Cupertino. The statement goes on to point out that Apple "ignited the personal computer revolution in the 1970s" and "reinvented the personal computer in the 1980s" - just in case anyone had doubts about who was the most innovative company.
HTC has its own user interface, TouchFlo, which is used across its own-brand handsets, but Apple's beef is more likely to be about HTC's role in the production of Google's Nexus One. Earlier this month the Nexus One got a software update which enabled multi-touch, including an implementation of "pinch to zoom" - something much admired on the iPhone and well protected by Apple's patent library.
Quite where HTC is infringing with regard to "underlying architecture" and "hardware" we're not clear. HTC isn't commenting and Apple is mysteriously quiet for us as ever, but once we find out we'll be sure to let you know. ®
http://www.theregister.co.uk/2010/03/02/apple_patent_htc/
LOL apple must want to offset nokia suing them

its all a bit ridiculous really, Nokia are suing Apple and Apple are also suing Nokia over various patent infrigements.

HTC Statement: "We only learned of Apple's actions based on your stories and Apple's press release. We have not been served yet so we are in no position to comment on the claims. We respect and value patent rights but we are committed to defending our own innovations. We have been innovating and patenting our own technology for 13 years."
via engadget.

Double thread.

Apple is so scared he he

http://gizmodo.com/5536898/apple-hits-back-at-claims-of-androids-larger-sales
fools

Glad to know
They should be!
They are going down..................

They are starting to rott at this very moment!

Yeah the latest comments from Cupertino always hit the I'm With Adobe FB group and we laughed hysterically when this one came around.
Denial, much?

You guys crack me up, Are " you " in denial much ?
Apple makes ONE phone yes ONe, One, oNe, yes 1 phone. In the 1Q they cornered 7 percent of the market with a year old phone. With one phone. How many Android phones are there ?
Even though everyone knows the new 4G is coming out in June, they still sold 7% of the market, with ONE phone . How many Nexus One's did Google sell ? 7% of the market ? No !.....How many Eris' did HTC sell ? 7% of the market ? Hero's , MyTouches, Desires, Incredibles ? Not even with Verzion " giving " them away 2 for 1. ( The giveaway phones were added into the survey of course)
Seriously, Apple has sold 50 million iPhones, does anyone not in denial, really think that Motorola is going to sell 50 million Droids ?
Apple is really quaking. Wake me after the 4G comes out and Verizon stops having to giveaway phones to get people to buy them, and then see if the numbers change.
Or better yet wake me when Google sells 50 million Nexus Ones,

As much as we hate it, he's right. One phone on one carrier that's almost one year old makes 7% of the marketshare with a new one already known to come out. Their are soooo many Windows Mobile and Android phones on several different carriers, even if they did sell as much or come close to that ammount, Apple still has it beat with one phone, one carrier, one year old when everyone knew a new one was being released! I by no means even have one bit of likeness (is it even a word) for Apple but they are successful. It's just a fad like everything else. Eventually their will be something newer and better,

froggylover1345 said:
As much as we hate it, he's right. One phone on one carrier that's almost one year old makes 7% of the marketshare with a new one already known to come out. Their are soooo many Windows Mobile and Android phones on several different carriers, even if they did sell as much or come close to that ammount, Apple still has it beat with one phone, one carrier, one year old when everyone knew a new one was being released! I by no means even have one bit of likeness (is it even a word) for Apple but they are successful. It's just a fad like everything else. Eventually their will be something newer and better,
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If Google was arrogant and conceited enough to put all their eggs in one basket, I'm sure they'd be outselling the iPhone right about now. The novelty is over. As novelty fades, functionality takes over (see Nintendo's recent drop in sales for more information). But the reality is that Google isn't dumb enough to monopolize the hardware and instead spreads their OS across multiple hardware platforms. Even Microsoft knows this. That being said, expect a continued increase in Android dominance.
Apple's desire to control the public and the market in general has negative side effects. As much as I hate Apple, they could DOUBLE their profits if they released their OS to PCs. Instead, they'd rather control the market and eventually face tons of monopoly lawsuits in the future, eventually forcing them to comply with the public desire.
It's sad when Apple fanboys don't get it. Saying that they did that with one phone, one OS, on one carrier means absolutely nothing. The proof is in numbers. You can't say that if they released it on many different hardware units on many carriers then they would dominate. Why? Because they didn't do it. It's not their strategy. And thus, because they chose so, they have now been lapped. I still have yet to make sense of why Apple defends their exclusive contract with AT&T. They could easily triple their profits if they came out with a CDMA version (yet their exclusive contract goes to 2012).
And talk all you want about 4G but most people have no idea what they are talking about when it comes to the next generation. AT&T 4G is at least a year out. AT&T is next releasing a 3G+ expansion, but even that will be behind (and sometimes relying on) T-Mobile's 3G+ network. Sprint claims to have 4G ready (even though all 4G tests in the US show similar speeds to 3G+), but only in a few markets. CDMA carriers will be ready for 4G roll-out beyond the top 10 metros in 2012. But leave it to Apple fanboys to think 4G (maturing in 2012) is months away, especially since they also seem to think HTML5 is months away (2022 for maturity).
You're definitely right. Apple sold ONE phone. ONE PHONE. And took 7% of the market. That's definitely amazing. Think about what they could do if they sold 10 phones! You're absolutely right. Think about it. But not too much, because they were dumb enough not to. And now, they have been lapped. Oops. I guess we now know the part of the body responsible for long-term marketing and consumer satisfaction is actually located in the liver (a part Jobs recently traded out).
Hypotheticals can't be used as an argument. The iPhone could have very well sold 4 times as much as Android and Windows phones combined, if they marketed different phones and different carriers. But they didn't. And so they lose. Unfortunately, Apple and their fanboys won't learn the lesson that's pretty obvious to everyone else.

Sure, it's easy to sell 50 million toys compared to classy high tech devices!

rorytmeadows said:
You're definitely right. Apple sold ONE phone. ONE PHONE. And took 7% of the market. That's definitely amazing. Think about what they could do if they sold 10 phones! You're absolutely right. Think about it. But not too much, because they were dumb enough not to. And now, they have been lapped. Oops. I guess we now know the part of the body responsible for long-term marketing and consumer satisfaction is actually located in the liver (a part Jobs recently traded out).
Hypotheticals can't be used as an argument. The iPhone could have very well sold 4 times as much as Android and Windows phones combined, if they marketed different phones and different carriers. But they didn't. And so they lose. Unfortunately, Apple and their fanboys won't learn the lesson that's pretty obvious to everyone else.
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Apple has learned their lesson, a lesson Google is about to learn
http://www.theinquirer.net/inquirer/feature/1594673/popularity-killing-android

denco7 said:
Apple has learned their lesson, a lesson Google is about to learn
http://www.theinquirer.net/inquirer/feature/1594673/popularity-killing-android
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hahaha, a long article attempting to claim closed systems are better. Nice. Considering Google is the leading company when it comes to push updates (balanced nicely without saying "F U" to their customers). Software and OTA updates are still relatively new in the mobile field. Even Windows Mobile 6.5 has a Windows Update function that has never been used! Google pushed multitouch OTA. Who else has done that? Android will continue to gain steam as they cater to developers (Oops, Apple dropped the ball on that one). They will gain steam as Android becomes the popular technology device to purchase, that also includes the ability to do things for less money.
I'm pretty confident in Google. I have a Windows Mobile phone, so I'm not necessarily against seeing different versions of an OS floating around as a bad thing. If you're Android phone doesn't have the ability to update to the latest OS, then go out and buy another one that does. Apple fanboys purchase updated hardware for less of a difference.
It's a shame for all Apple fanboys. It's like Yankee fans dealing with a losing season by talking about pennants from 1923 (like anyone cares about 1923).
(at least we can agree that we hate the Yankees, denco7 )
http://online.wsj.com/article/SB124546193182433491.html

Apples new tactic in patent wars

mobile.theverge.com/2012/2/18/2808281/apple-investigate-Motorola-eu-frand-abuse
Apple yet again have asked the eu to start another antitrust investigation into another android rival. This time its against Motorola.
Is this apples new tactic...when you sue and lose, get the eu to do your dirty work for you?
Seems apple have really sunk to a new low.
Dave
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It's complete bulls*** because android is taking over almost 80% of the market for mobile phone sales by the end of this year. They're trying to do anything to slow down the process but they can't stop android no matter what they do. They go after the dumb corporations who don't have that many android builds, I don't see anyone going after Samsung until just recently over the Nexus... It's so ridiculous because Apple is losing money over these sales.. then more money over court? The only reason why Apple, IMO, is doing the suing is because they want to say "Hey you do know Apple still exists right?"
Apple OS is lightyears from Android in my opinion in the simple fact that the community creates builds and anyone with almost no knowledge can learn and become a developer... Whereas Apple also expects $100 for an app? Just... give up.. jeez. I hate Apple. They only corner the App marketplace sales.

Unfortunately, when you have as much money as Apple, it begins to be cheaper to fight rivals in the courts rather than in the marketplace.
money.cnn.com/2012/01/24/technology/apple_earnings/index.htm
It makes manufacturers nervous that their phone will be blocked from sale, customers nervous that they wont' be able to get support, and which veers them to other offerings (like an iphone coincidentally). Apple will need to feel public backlash and a big drop in sales before they will stop using this tactic.
It also doesn't help that someone keeps issuing apple these ridiculous patents.

This import ban on htc devices

I call bs on the apple, the patent (tapping on a phone number link in an email brings up the dialer wtf really?), the courts that ruled in apples favor and the itc too. Apple muster be paying everyone off. Apple makes some nice stuff but I refuse to every even consider their products till they try to compete fairly by making a better product instead of filing bs patents and trying to sue the competition until they go bankrupt so they can get away with selling 8 gig mp3 players for $300.
Real though data tapping omg who cares? Why in gods name would any judge think apple is seriously being hurt because offers such a minor feature? Right now everyones is just insuring that already crippled company is gone become of a multi billion dollar company has a stupid patent that was probably filed after htc phones already had the feature.
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Apple has been defeated in a court case against Samsung in the UK

Samsung had requested this voluntary trial in September 2011, in order to oppose Apple’s ongoing efforts to reduce consumer choice and innovation in the tablet market through their excessive legal claims and arguments. Apple has insisted that the three Samsung tablet products infringe several features of Apple’s design right, such as 'slightly rounded corners,' 'a flat transparent surface without any ornamentation,' and 'a thin profile.'
"However, the High Court dismissed Apple’s arguments by referring to approximately 50 examples of prior art, or designs that were previously created or patented, from before 2004. These include the Knight Ridder (1994), the Ozolin (2004), and HP’s TC1000 (2003). The court found numerous Apple design features to lack originality, and numerous identical design features to have been visible in a wide range of earlier tablet designs from before 2004."
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www.androidcentral.com/british-high...nizable-differences-between-ipad-and-galaxy-t
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That's good. All this patent trolling is getting ridiculous, and it ain't just Apple either.
But the details there, it just goes to show how vague they can make these claims. There really needs to be some kind of reform of patent laws, particularly in this part of the industry which is only just finding its feet. Everybody seems to want to exclusively own this new big thing. Sure the iPad was the first system to take the tablet idea, merge it with a smartphone OS and capacitive touch screen etc. and use it in such a way but it most definitely wasn't the first attempt at a tablet/slate computer.
This really isn't what Steve Jobs would have wanted at all. He always celebrated his competitors and the drive they gave his company to do better. If people just crushed any competitors which came up in their industry, power users would still be using BlackBerry phones...

I'm glad there is a court that sees through Apples BS.
I know trade dress is easier to defeat then bs patents but it is a nice start

I hope that this time Apple won't ask for Samsungs technology one month later...

http://www.lockergnome.com/news/2012/07/10/corporations-into-causes/
Either way, patent disputes have been going on for as long as patent law has existed. Corporations buy companies explicitly for the patents they posses, because patents are the new product. If you develop a new way of overcoming a technological hurdle, you’re almost guaranteed a buyout these days if you have the foresight to patent your idea. The rights to that idea are far more valuable than the products themselves (for some reason) thanks to the way the current patent system exists.
Apple has been called out for achieving an injunction against the Galaxy Nexus. This isn’t the first time Apple has taken legal action to protect its patents, and the reasoning behind these actions can be a much deeper rabbit hole than it might appear on the surface.
For starters, if you don’t defend your patent in one case, you may lose any legal grounds you have to defend it in another. It’s not like other companies aren’t suing to protect their own properties. Apple just happens to be the one that received an injunction.
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Pretty interesting article.
I can't see how they managed to get the injunction though. I could understand with the Galaxy S1 or the Galaxy Ace (they pretty much copied the whole design there), or even the Tab 10.1, but the Nexus barely even resembles an iPhone. But this is why Google bought Motorola - did anybody think Motorola had anything going for them, really? They just own a tonne of patents Google want. Sammy have been constantly trying to sue Apple at the same time, this has been going on for ages, just for some stupid reason they got an injunction here.