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I made this thread because I'm pretty sure other threads are made of this topic but I wanted to create a newer one since all these new products are coming out.
I would choose Apple because:
1)Selling over priced, under powered (for the price) computers that have no customization (well barely and I mean like building your own)
2) Changing the animal on their OS, add a .1, add features that can come in an update, and calling it a whole new OS.
3) Selling the iPhone and making the iPad (the iPod touch seems like the only good Apple Product). They don't know what the term "smart" phone means. I mean no multi tasking, boring, un-creative UI. The features in the iPhone/iPad may have been ground breaking 7 years ago but not today.
4) How it makes the fanboyz/fangirlz go crazy about the product because they hypnotized them about how they are good and the other companies are evil. The fanboyz/fangirlz are mad because they spent a lot of cash on an over priced piece of doo-doop) and they have to unleash their anger on past mistakes of another company while forgetting about the new features in the product today.
I like only one thing of apple products and mostly their software for computers: They have pretty good video editing software and that is pretty much it.
Unleash your inner fanboy/fangirl and just rant.
Apple has done a lot for the world though, with the ipod influencing other MP3 players, as well as showing that the linux based operating system can be used in mainstream media. I'd go more with AT&T and verizon mostly because of the monopolies that they have on the cell phone market right now. I'd rather have no contract phones which allow a pay per use plan. Either that or Walmart because of their screwing consumers.
All the oil/petroleum companys!!!!!!!!!!!!!
AndroidNoobie said:
I made this thread because I'm pretty sure other threads are made of this topic but I wanted to create a newer one since all these new products are coming out.
I would choose Apple because:
1)Selling over priced, under powered (for the price) computers that have no customization (well barely and I mean like building your own)
2) Changing the animal on their OS, add a .1, add features that can come in an update, and calling it a whole new OS.
3) Selling the iPhone and making the iPad (the iPod touch seems like the only good Apple Product). They don't know what the term "smart" phone means. I mean no multi tasking, boring, un-creative UI. The features in the iPhone/iPad may have been ground breaking 7 years ago but not today.
4) How it makes the fanboyz/fangirlz go crazy about the product because they hypnotized them about how they are good and the other companies are evil. The fanboyz/fangirlz are mad because they spent a lot of cash on an over priced piece of doo-doop) and they have to unleash their anger on past mistakes of another company while forgetting about the new features in the product today.
I like only one thing of apple products and mostly their software for computers: They have pretty good video editing software and that is pretty much it.
Unleash your inner fanboy/fangirl and just rant.
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I agree with you completely. Don't forget Quicktime (terrible UI and runs background services), iTunes (way to lock up music, Apple), iPods (same dial, same disk space, half the price elsewhere), and the iPod touch (what's the purpose or purchasing a stand-alone portable media wifi device again? that must come in real handy on the beach, in clubs, bars, and everywhere else wifi doesn't exist).
Also, who can really respect a company that basically releases dumbed-down technology basically saying that their customers are slow and stupid and lack self-respect when it comes to not being able to customize their portable devices? Notice how in the Windows Phone 7 Series walk-through found on MSDN today, the president/manager of the project said, "If you buy the phone we are going to let you customize it."
Also, special mention for Verizon, who really has worked hard to rip off the average consumer.
verizon. worst company ever.
AT$T has to go. This is undoutedly the worst company in the world. They have their heads so far up Apple's ass they should be called Apple T$T.
They simply do not care that people hate them, they have no new phones, except updated Tilts and Diamonds. They have the absolute worst customer service
http://digitaldaily.allthingsd.com/...sumer-reports-best-cell-phone-service-survey/
Latest example: My wife and I split ( no big deal , long time coming ) she decided that she wanted to take the iPhone that I bought her and the Propel that I bought her son, both of which I had put on my account, and get her own acount with AT$T. Without any notice to me, AT$T allowed her to take the phones and signed her up to two new two year contracts, and as I only found out yesterday, charged me with $300 dollars in early termination fees. When I challenged them on this, they said that I can always continue to pay for the numbers until the contract runs out. I asked them , since they allowed her to take the phone off of my account, why don't they just terminate the contract.
They informed me that the contract was for the numbers not the handsets. And that who ever was using the handsets, was out of their control. They further said that the contracts are meant to offset the subsidizing of the phones. I clearly pointed out that holding me to the balance of the original contract for the phones and then signing them up to two new two year contracts for the same two phones, was " double dipping " and that any reasonable customer service rep who wanted to keep a 7 year customer with four phones on AT$T would see that by cancelling the two contracts, AT$T was not losing any money and had infact guaranteed themselves more money by signing the ex and her son to two new 2 year contracts.
At which point they continued their mantra " the contract was for the phone numbers, not the phones themselves. " At which point, I cancelled the two phones that I had that were out of contract. Put the ex and her son's # on suspended service for $9.99 a month until the contract expires. And now must make a decision on what to do with my iPhone in July when that contract runs out. In the last seven years, I have paid AT$T $ 10,000- $14,000 in connection fees, and some dope in their customer service dept is forcing me to go elsewhere over $300 in early termination fees that are being paid for by " double dipping " in another account. Stupidity like this has got to go.
Where would this company be if Steve Jobs decides to yank there heads out of his butt ?
Oh Yeah, iPhone, Mac Book, iPod touch, 2 iMacs, U2 iPod classic = Apple Fanboy here.
Everybody hates the people who " get it "
Rogers Wireless, which used to be Rogers AT&T. We're seeing a pattern here
Probably AT&T. AT&T has terrible service nearly everywhere, crappy customer service (moreso than most telcos), and poor overall selection of devices.
Ever since the iPhone was introduced, AT&T has basically given up on maintaining their network at a usable level. The worst is when you call their terrible customer service only to be greeted by a voice announcing that they are "home of the iPhone" before you actually get help. I don't hate the iPhone, I have a few of them in fact, but I hate how AT&T having exclusivity over the iPhone has led to them ignoring all other aspects of their company.
They've almost forgotten about Windows Mobile and have completely ignored Android and WebOS devices, instead opting for more feature phones, because we all need more $20 Nokias and Samsungs. AT&T stopped trying once they got exclusivity of the iPhone, figuring that they wouldn't have to actually get business by being good at what they do, but rather by forcing people into switching in order to get their desired device.
If you don't believe me about the terrible customer service, I have a story for you. For Christmas of 2009, my mother and sister wanted iPhone 3GSes to replace their aging original iPhones. My father I waited to go to the AT&T store until the night before, because one of the incompetent CS representatives we talked to over the phone said that the original iPhones would deactivate, and we didn't want them deactivated for very long, should they need their phones. However, this was untrue, meaning we had to wait in long lines on Christmas Eve when we could have bought the iPhones months ago with no negative effects
After we finally got served by a representative, we were told that the bill we had mailed out almost two weeks ago still hadn't been processed yet, and in order to pay the lower upgrade price instead of the full retail price (~$500), we would have to pay the bill at the store, and have the check we mailed out be credited to our account. After we did that, the lady sold us the iPhones, which seemed fine. Except it wasn't fine, since she upgraded of the iPhones on my father's account, instead of my mother's which was a pain to deal with when we bought my father an iPhone a few weeks later. After we finally got the iPhones and drove home, we immediately got a call from the AT&T store, letting us know that the woman who sold us the iPhones had forgotten to put one of them back in the box after activating it, meaning we had to drive back again and pick up the phone which they forgot. The moral of this story is that AT&T is a horrible company, and a good portion of their customer service representatives are incapable of doing their jobs properly or giving correct information.
I actually have a few more AT&T stories to share, but I think I'd probably run past the 10,000 character post limit were I to share them all
AT&T...I left them a few years ago because of their ripoff plans, iphonia, no customer support, etc.
No point mentioning any as basically every coporation would be on my hit list
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No point mentioning any as basically every coporation would be on my hit list
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This is true! I listed one, but could have easily listed hundreds!
I'm not against corporations in general; I'd love to take money from consumers to better myself. But I do have a problem with every Apple idiot thinking Apple is doing great when really they are just taking advantage of people without their own identities and morons.
Yesterday's closing stock prices:
Microsoft>$28.63
RIM ( Blackberry )>$70.40
Nokia>$13.35
Motorola>$7.05
Palm>$9.31
HTC Corp.>$9.65
Apple>$201.47
Wow, sure must be a lot of us idiot, identity lacking , morons, getting taken advantage of by Apple.
Down with Tootsie Roll Industries, Inc.!
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Yesterday's closing stock prices:
Microsoft>$28.63
RIM ( Blackberry )>$70.40
Nokia>$13.35
Motorola>$7.05
Palm>$9.31
HTC Corp.>$9.65
Apple>$201.47
Wow, sure must be a lot of us idiot, identity lacking , morons, getting taken advantage of by Apple.
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And don't forgot Google at $543!
galaxys said:
And don't forgot Google at $543!
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Lawlz. Apple got pwned. Google gets lot of money from gmail, gtalk, google maps, etc. Plus they put all that on their android phones too.
Apple
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denco7 said:
Yesterday's closing stock prices:
Microsoft>$28.63
RIM ( Blackberry )>$70.40
Nokia>$13.35
Motorola>$7.05
Palm>$9.31
HTC Corp.>$9.65
Apple>$201.47
Wow, sure must be a lot of us idiot, identity lacking , morons, getting taken advantage of by Apple.
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I'm hoping that this is sarcasm and that you realize that this is actually support against Apple's dominance. Stock prices for the most part are based on hype and a LACK of knowledge about a company. There's more idiots than smart people in the US, so a company like Apple should thrive. George W. Bush got elected twice. There are plenty of idiots around to think Apple is worth it.
A carpet die company somewhere in LA county. The XXXX told me to XXXX when I asked if they could sell me a smaller portion of carpet die for a smaller price.
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poetryrocksalot said:
A carpet die company somewhere in LA county. The XXXX told me to XXXX when I asked if they could sell me a smaller portion of carpet die for a smaller price.
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hahahahhahaa
Apple has patented the look of the tablet, and has already won an injunction in Germany:
http://www.zdnet.com/blog/hardware/...-oems-from-building-tablets/14175?tag=nl.e550
Apple has successfully blocked one tablet, and their so-called patent in Spain (a crude drawing) could ban all tablets other than Apple there.
America, boycott Apple if you have a brain (or even if only half). This is what this country fought against, and all you Apple fans, get your frickin heads out!!
Apple is going for technological dictatorship at the hands of an egotistical, psychotic, megalomaniac who is pulling no stops at dirty patent tricks across the globe.
As if the global economy wasn't bad enough, Jobs has to get his grubby little fingers into the pot in a grab to try to take over and crush the entire tech industry and progress across the globe.
F Apple. F Jobs.
I will NEVER EVER buy an Apple product, as it goes against everything this country stands for. I could give a rat's patootie if it is an American company... That just makes it worse!
Well said. I too support your ideas.
majorpay said:
I will NEVER EVER buy an Apple product, as it goes against everything this country stands for. I could give a rat's patootie if it is an American company... That just makes it worse!
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I agree with everything you're saying except for one thing...it's exactly what this country now stands for.
But I have never bought an Apple product and I never will.
It seems like every day, A new Apple story pops up with Apple attempting to shut down world-wide industries.
I am wondering when the PC will come under fire? If the legal system throughout the world and this nation is this broken, will they find a way to ban PC selection throughout the world? Their server products have been a flop since their inception, will they go after Dell next?
Maybe I better patent this idea before Apple gets it's hands on it:
A box, with a power button on it, that has microprocessors on the inside in some sort of a configuration that allows computations to be performed, and from applied pressure from a body appendage to said button can cause power to be applied to the box resulting in a display (with potential words or graphical images on it) to activate as a result of the box interaction.
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Quick, someone draw a box with a circle on the center, and lets get this submitted to the patent office! Picture plus vague description = PROFIT!
Apple isn't doing anything differently from any other company in the world. They all guard their interests as best they can. The thing with Apple is, what they do is highly publicized. But they are far from being the number one litigator. And the attention they get is because they are an American technology company that is doing business better than the Asian businesses. That alone earns Apple a lot of hate. I will say this, though, the Asian businesses are masters at creating hate.
MartyLK said:
Apple isn't doing anything differently from any other company in the world. They all guard their interests as best they can. The thing with Apple is, what they do is highly publicized. But they are far from being the number one litigator. And the attention they get is because they are an American technology company that is doing business better than the Asian businesses. That alone earns Apple a lot of hate. I will say this, though, the Asian businesses are masters at creating hate.
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There's no interest here, and the reason it is highly publicized is because Apple was successful in the first stage of getting every tablet removed from every country in the EU by producing a picture of an Etch-A-Sketch without knobs, and they are ACTUALLY WINNING!!
Companies protect I.P.. Apple is out to play the system for global domination using the dirtiest of patent tricks I have ever seen (aside from dirty IP companies that have been patenting everything under the sun for the past decade, but unlike Apple, they normally get shut down eventually). The worst part about this is that Jobs has made no bones about the fact that he has no intentions of licensing out his patents. His intentions are CLEARLY to eliminate the global market.
There's a big difference between protecting one's company intellectual property, and just being downright OBVIOUS about invalid and anti-competitive patents.
MartyLK said:
Apple isn't doing anything differently from any other company in the world.
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Baseless claim and completely untrue.
too right!
I completely agree and am boycotting apple products and no longer using iTunes.
Join this Facebook group if you agree it needs as many members as it can get!
http://www.facebook.com/pages/Boycott-Apple/350260026008?sk=info
If they are the stupidest company in the world, then why are they number 1 in the public stock market? Why are they still getting so many sales? Why are they beating every other device out there? They know how to design and make a fast and reliable product. No other company can do what Apple can. Just because Apple is better, doesn't mean you have to hate on them.
I guess we will have to import the Tabs from Holland. I guess Amsterdam will now have one more attraction going hand in hand with smoking pot ))). Can you believe this? People will be actually "illegally" smuggling GALAXY TABS to the rest of European Union .. Fu..k APPLE
savage24x said:
Just because Apple is better, doesn't mean you have to hate on them.
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Apple should take your advice.
Ill reword it slightly and direct it at Apple:
"Just because other products are threatening you in the market and you can't compete doesn't mean you should sue"
savage24x said:
If they are the stupidest company in the world, then why are they number 1 in the public stock market? Why are they still getting so many sales? Why are they beating every other device out there? They know how to design and make a fast and reliable product. No other company can do what Apple can. Just because Apple is better, doesn't mean you have to hate on them.
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Apple isn't better. People are stupid. Stupid people think that if you pay more for the same thing it makes you cool. Stupid people want to be cool, probably in hopes that other stupid people won't think they are stupid.
Apple makes nice stuff. They do. But they charge 2x too much, at least for their computers. They parlay this into a "designer" brand (Like Calvin Klein or Hilfiger etc.) and then EVERYONE "has" to have their stuff. Doesnt matter if it costs more or less or whatever. Sheeple. Listen to the bleat!
savage24x said:
If they are the stupidest company in the world, then why are they number 1 in the public stock market? Why are they still getting so many sales? Why are they beating every other device out there? They know how to design and make a fast and reliable product. No other company can do what Apple can. Just because Apple is better, doesn't mean you have to hate on them.
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Exactly.
But you have to understand that the production of "hate" for a successful business is the Asian companies way of competing. Instead of litigating, which they have no excuse to do because they infringe the products of non-national companies, they resort to inflammatory tactics. It takes a lot longer and is very unreliable, though.
MartyLK said:
Exactly.
But you have to understand that the production of "hate" for a successful business is the Asian companies way of competing. Instead of litigating, which they have no excuse to do because they infringe the products of non-national companies, they resort to inflammatory tactics. It takes a lot longer and is very unreliable, though.
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You are completely bonkers, aren't ya, guy?
majorpay said:
You are completely bonkers, aren't ya, guy?
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No, I think that gives him too much credit.
Wtf at that patent
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mattykinsx said:
No, I think that gives him too much credit.
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He had a thread last night that virtually equated Google to the Jesus of technology. I can't find it now.
...Weird how this was moved. I know it's not relating to "phones," but XDA has discussions on tablets as well as phones, right?
dknox1 said:
I completely agree and am boycotting apple products and no longer using iTunes.
Join this Facebook group if you agree it needs as many members as it can get!
http://www.facebook.com/pages/Boycott-Apple/350260026008?sk=info
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United vs the fruit
As a Mod:
Normally all fruit company threads end badly, hope this one can be the exception, let´s try to keep on topic (even if off topic).
As a regular member:
I believe in fare competition but what is doing that fruit is not fare, it deserves all my hate
orb3000 said:
As a Mod:
Normally all fruit company threads end badly, hope this one can be the exception, let´s try to keep on topic (even if off topic).
As a regular member:
I believe in fare competition but what is doing that fruit is not fare, it deserves all my hate
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They do seem to ignite an almost religious debate; however, Apple is deserving of a strong message.
I had once contemplated purchasing an iPad. I contemplate no longer...
As if HTC doesn't have enough to deal with concerning Carrier IQ and the boot unlocker, now a pending court ruling in favor of Apple could stop importation of HTC phones into the U.S. Basically, Apple's complaint is that the Android operating system "borrows" from Apple patents.
http://news.cnet.com/8301-1035_3-57...nned-from-the-u.s.-faq/?tag=mncol;mlt_related
The article doesn't address the possibility of HTC developing its own operating system (long rumored and mentioned in this forum in the past day or so), but the proposal makes sense (no pun intended) in light of the possible legal ruling.
Htc has been around longer than apple in the phone business and holds plenty patents that apple can't touch. Apple still has Carrier IQ installed on some of their devices even though they claim they are not using their services. Android is open source and does not infringe on apples OS. Let them cry all they want, they couldn't even touch Samsung.
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Ok it is a simple fact that Apple is Very Very sue happy right now (Started when Jobs was Diagnosed with Pancreatic Cancer as far as I have noticed). I mean hell they just got done trying to bury Samsung because "Apple sues Samsung again for copying the iPhone's design, this time in South Korea" etc. Apple came out with a statement after Loosing saying well Samsung could go around our patents by just making their phones look different and making them have a more cluttered UI. The general idea here is that rather than dealing with the changing markets Apple wants to have the market cornered and have No competition so they can charge an insane amount of money for their devices, at least that is how it looks to me with all their stupid lawsuits they have going on right now. Next they will start suing TV Companies and Cable Box Manufacturers because the Cable Boxes look too much like the Apple TV boxes. I mean really Apple needs to come to grips and just Deal with it.
http://www.digitaltrends.com/mobile/apple-files-preliminary-injunction-to-block-sale-of-samsung-galaxy-nexus-in-us/
What the hell apple, are you that scared of other companies, stop throwing money around....
I think we are pretty bored of these apple lawsuits. I think we have an Apple sues X thread already.
Maybe....If not we need one, and Apple is an idiot, pretty soon they will be flat broke, selling old inventory to make ends meat
Apple is getting mad because their devices suck unless JailBroken in my honest opinion
Apple, Apple, Apple. The only reason this company is still in business is because it has an army of simple minded minions to buy whatever crap that comes out of Foxconn. "Onion News" made a great video about that.
mobile.theverge.com/2012/2/18/2808281/apple-investigate-Motorola-eu-frand-abuse
Apple yet again have asked the eu to start another antitrust investigation into another android rival. This time its against Motorola.
Is this apples new tactic...when you sue and lose, get the eu to do your dirty work for you?
Seems apple have really sunk to a new low.
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It's complete bulls*** because android is taking over almost 80% of the market for mobile phone sales by the end of this year. They're trying to do anything to slow down the process but they can't stop android no matter what they do. They go after the dumb corporations who don't have that many android builds, I don't see anyone going after Samsung until just recently over the Nexus... It's so ridiculous because Apple is losing money over these sales.. then more money over court? The only reason why Apple, IMO, is doing the suing is because they want to say "Hey you do know Apple still exists right?"
Apple OS is lightyears from Android in my opinion in the simple fact that the community creates builds and anyone with almost no knowledge can learn and become a developer... Whereas Apple also expects $100 for an app? Just... give up.. jeez. I hate Apple. They only corner the App marketplace sales.
Unfortunately, when you have as much money as Apple, it begins to be cheaper to fight rivals in the courts rather than in the marketplace.
money.cnn.com/2012/01/24/technology/apple_earnings/index.htm
It makes manufacturers nervous that their phone will be blocked from sale, customers nervous that they wont' be able to get support, and which veers them to other offerings (like an iphone coincidentally). Apple will need to feel public backlash and a big drop in sales before they will stop using this tactic.
It also doesn't help that someone keeps issuing apple these ridiculous patents.