Hello guys, I'm here asking about your Incredible S, because I' m not 100% sure about buying it...
Esthetically I love it, the feeling of rubber it's wonderful: but I'm curious about how it's working this phone, opinion of people who use this phone everyday...
I would have already buy it, if it isn't that I've found Sensation for a difference of 80€.
Basically are u happy of this phone or u would throw out a window?? ( like me with my mega) a single core Vs a dual core is that much a difference???
Thank you.
p.s: rooting, flashing it's not a problem for me
Personally I love my incredible s...and the devs have been great! Screen is much better than the sensation but the dual core would be nice.. camera is also much better on the incredible s though...anyways I love my is!
i love my incs. the physicality of the phone is just what i wanted in a phone. great screen, great size, great feel. also, the dev support/interest is getting better by the day.
i imagine a dual core phone would be a little more snappy but also more battery hungry, but i can't say for certain since i don't have any experience with it. as far as single core phones go, you will not be disappointed.
ps battery life could be better but that's sense ui for ya. it's power hungry. i'm running miui and battery life has increased dramatically.
pps if you want a fair comparison, you would have to wait for someone who has tried both phones.
look here:
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=1218788
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=1217136
if u opt for single core phone and better battery life .. you should go for Inc S .. if u need dual core for far more better performance u can shift to sensation or xperia arc s.....
but in my opinion Inc S gives a great competition for dual core phones being a single core phone.
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I bought both phones at the same time and the sensation just how can i put it just not sensational.the screen just didn't have any appeal to it unless you cranked up The brightness but even then didn't look that impressive.The sensation in every day use didn't just didn't feel as nice as the incredible s it was just laggy, I know software updates and custom roms can overcome this but the incredible s just felt snappier.
The camera on still shots on both phones seem very on par with each other but unless you take alot of video the incredible s takes some nice shots.
the overall feel of the incredlible s is nicer but for the size of the phone the sensation is a nice phone.
I actually had three phones to choose from and the other was the desire s and in the end it was a choice between the desire s and incredible s ,of which i chose the incredible s and i am very happy with choice..
Incredible s is more incredible than sensation by the amount of custom roms \m/
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I am extremely happy with my IS, best $270 I spent in a long time.
I also love my incredible s, with its curve back cover..and the vivid color of the screen..
iv had both twice started with IS than to sensation than Back to IS the IS is much better phone dosnt have the cutting edge but it dose it right
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Incredible s is more incredible than sensation by the amount of custom roms \m/
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the sensation has the greatest dev support if you consider number of ROMs than any other HTC phone.It is also better in every aspect.
The fact is that the IS is a single core last gen Android device, if you choose Android and have the money, go with a dual core phone whether its a Sensation or a GSII or a GN.
If you consider single core devices then pick the IS if you want good dev support or pick the Arc S if you want amazing looks.The IS sadly didn't became too popular with the devs as dual core devices started popping up one month after its launch and in addition, it didn't brought any thing new to the table(a IS is simply a upgraded DHD)
On topic, no.There is no reason to pick the IS over a Sensation unless you're getting it for a very cheap price.
the IS was made to deliver what the users want and it does it job very well, it looks good, performs good and packs a bunch of features but now after 9 months of its launch, there are better options available.
I wouldn't suggest getting a HTC. I like my IS its just I don't like sense and when you install a custom rom the camera is alot worse which means you get trade offs each way which you shouldn't have to on a new phone.
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the sensation has the greatest dev support if you consider number of ROMs than any other HTC phone.It is also better in every aspect.
The fact is that the IS is a single core last gen Android device, if you choose Android and have the money, go with a dual core phone whether its a Sensation or a GSII or a GN.
If you consider single core devices then pick the IS if you want good dev support or pick the Arc S if you want amazing looks.The IS sadly didn't became too popular with the devs as dual core devices started popping up one month after its launch and in addition, it didn't brought any thing new to the table(a IS is simply a upgraded DHD)
On topic, no.There is no reason to pick the IS over a Sensation unless you're getting it for a very cheap price.
the IS was made to deliver what the users want and it does it job very well, it looks good, performs good and packs a bunch of features but now after 9 months of its launch, there are better options available.
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You just took the word right out of my mouth.
@TS, i have both phones and i recommend you to get a sensation xe or xl, there is no reason for you to pick a sensation over incs if you want a good performance and display phone. Of course you can choose incs if you want good battery life, and it has nice custom roms as well.
Try both in the hand, that was the deciding factor for me, IS fits well in the hand and pocket, Sensation is big and clumsy.
Sensation has a larger screen and dual core. However IS has a better screen of decent size and feels plenty fast.
The stock UI is now the same.
IS has worse audio quality but neither is suitable for listening to music indoors.
Sensation will get ICS from HTC and Incredible S will not, if that is important for you, get the Sensation.
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hussainmushahid said:
the sensation has the greatest dev support if you consider number of ROMs than any other HTC phone.It is also better in every aspect.
The fact is that the IS is a single core last gen Android device, if you choose Android and have the money, go with a dual core phone whether its a Sensation or a GSII or a GN.
If you consider single core devices then pick the IS if you want good dev support or pick the Arc S if you want amazing looks.The IS sadly didn't became too popular with the devs as dual core devices started popping up one month after its launch and in addition, it didn't brought any thing new to the table(a IS is simply a upgraded DHD)
On topic, no.There is no reason to pick the IS over a Sensation unless you're getting it for a very cheap price.
the IS was made to deliver what the users want and it does it job very well, it looks good, performs good and packs a bunch of features but now after 9 months of its launch, there are better options available.
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the IS has a better quality screen, much much better colour reproduction and better viewing angles (thats a fact)
the IS for most people fits much better in your band than the bigger and rounded sensation,
the IS has rotating buttons that the sensation dose not
the IS has a better back camera for pictures (fact)
the IS has a better front camera , higher res (fact)
the main reason the IS is better is because of the screen (you know the part you use every times you use your phone)
the sensation has dual core which means 1080p recording (quality isnt there tho)
the sensation has much better dev support no question
the sensation has .3" more screen and a higher resolution (qhd) which isnt that great for web pages because 4.3 inches still makes you zoom
To me, give IS due core while keep everything else unchanged, then I will have a device which is simply, perfect.
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jul644 said:
the IS has a better quality screen, much much better colour reproduction and better viewing angles (thats a fact)
the IS for most people fits much better in your band than the bigger and rounded sensation,
the IS has rotating buttons that the sensation dose not
the IS has a better back camera for pictures (fact)
the IS has a better front camera , higher res (fact)
the main reason the IS is better is because of the screen (you know the part you use every times you use your phone)
the sensation has dual core which means 1080p recording (quality isnt there tho)
the sensation has much better dev support no question
the sensation has .3" more screen and a higher resolution (qhd) which isnt that great for web pages because 4.3 inches still makes you zoom
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1.The Sensation uses two screens, one made by SHARP and the other by Acer, now some users like the SHARP one while others like the Acer one so its their personal opinion.The IS uses the Acer one and the pixel density is also higher on the Sensation.If your main requirement is a good screen then SAMOLED+ is the way to go.
2.They both fit perfectly well(I've used them both) its not like that Sensation is a Galaxy Note.
3.Rotating buttons, what's so special ? they don't even work in AOSP ROMs.
4.IS is slightly better when it comes to camera, you can compare it using the gsmarena compare tool.The reason behind this is because the Sensation compresses even more pictures than the IS.But then again, choosing a single core phone over a dual core phone just for a slightly better camera is not feasible.
Nevertheless HTC sucks at cameras due to excessive noise compression, even my N900 took better pictures than my IS, its better to get a Samsung if you want a good camera.
5.I haven't used the front cam so cant say.MP don't make much difference when it comes to quality but I can expect VGA to suck.
6.No, the IS is better in no ways compared to a Sensation except for its battery but one can always do with a extended one as all Android phones suck in the battery department.The IS isn't priced good too, I can get a Galaxy S or a Nexus S for $100 cheaper.
7.Dual core phones are better in performance than single core phones and are future proof, the IS won't live a long life.Plus the Sensation just like almost every other dual core phone will be getting ICS officially.The IS wont.
8.Well nothing to comment on the developer support
9.Having a higher resolution is always better as there is more sharper text and you can fit more in the screen.WVGA is getting old now with qHD and 720p phones coming out.
IMO, if you're on a budget get the Incredible S.
If you're looking for a dual-core phone, I suggest getting Samsung's dual-core offerings. I have both IncS and Sensation, and frankly I don't see the performance difference between them. Right now anyway.
There are little differences you can see between single vs dual and even duo vs quad.
The Transformer performs half a second (500 milliseconds) slower than the Prime in heavy JavaScript browsing and we're talking about a 2core to 4core and 400 MHz core increase.
More cores never means faster or double speeds in any life situation unless the software is written for it.. 97% of the apps on the market are probably written for single core instructions.
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They are similar phones but the main difference apart from sense version is the screen res and size. The sensations higher res screen is nice but the incredible has a more vibrant and better viewibg angles. From day to day use, I never notice any benefits of dual core
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http://i55.tinypic.com/2qbagpg.jpg[/IMG]http://i54.tinypic.com/dfafj4.jpg[/IMG]So I have been thourgly impressed by my thrill and I love it. However we just got the galaxy 2 in and I ran a quadrant score to compare and was devastated. The galaxy 2 destroyed my thrill and the infuse we tried against it. So I will be posting the three scores so everyone can see. I'm only posting this here in the thrill section since so many people have been debating between the two.
I live my thrill but may just have to jump ship after seeing this. They come out Sunday but most stores such as mine already have them
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If you care about benchmarks then the SGS2 will be the best device for you, spoken from a former SGS2 user.
However, if quadrant is all you care about, here is my Thrill running Thiaiz 1.3 w/ some build.prop tweaks and Supercharger V6.
NOTE: These tweaks make the phone actually feel faster.
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You will still be able to still score MUCH higher the SGS2 though because you can overclock the CPU and GPU, as well run these same tweaks.
Thrill didn't even make the list. LOL!
I don't see what is so impressive with that benchmark to be honest. My Thrill scores 2510 completely stock running Froyo.
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I just ran Quadrant again and scored 2720. This is a 100% stock phone. I only have root, no other tweaks yet. I may yet still return it, not sure yet. I like so many things about this device, just don't trust LG very much. Of course, I don't trust Samsung much either. I have been burned by them both in the past.
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http://i55.tinypic.com/2qbagpg.jpg[/IMG]http://i54.tinypic.com/dfafj4.jpg[/IMG]So I have been thourgly impressed by my thrill and I love it. However we just got the galaxy 2 in and I ran a quadrant score to compare and was devastated. The galaxy 2 destroyed my thrill and the infuse we tried against it. So I will be posting the three scores so everyone can see. I'm only posting this here in the thrill section since so many people have been debating between the two.
I live my thrill but may just have to jump ship after seeing this. They come out Sunday but most stores such as mine already have them
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I actually topped that running the hacked together cm7 for the O3D on the Thrill. There's a screenshot in the cm7 thread in general. So don't get too discouraged...this Froyo LG gave us is just horrible. GB will be much more optimized for the Thrill than Froyo is.
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Thrill didn't even make the list. LOL!
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Its not that kind of list. It has a list of certain devices and some generic scores built into the app. It doesn't show any comparisons that the user actually runs.
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Get CM7 or some other custom ROMs on this thing running gingerbread (which is what it is being compared to with the SGS2) and the Thrill will be on top of the SGS2's score. I'm going to stick it out with the Thrill and see what's coming down the line. The only real thing the SGS2 has that is better than the Thrill, is the NFC (which doesn't even work yet supposedly). The Thrill having 3D is worth more than that for me.
When the next Nexus device comes out though, I will probably get it to rock along side my Thrill (unless by some miracle it has 3D in it, which I HIGHLY doubt).
I'm in the same boat. I just got the thrill but lack of gingerbread is killing me. My inspire on miui at only 1.2ghz beats it at most anything. In replacing the inspire I was looking for a phone that out of the box would equal maxxed out, balls to the wall speed on my inspire. I really feel like its being terribly handicapped by 2.2. My local att store claims that they are temporarily withholding the gs2 in my local market and sold me this phone instead.
Speed tweaks people, use them. The phone will be a LOT faster, trust me.
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Speed tweaks people, use them. The phone will be a LOT faster, trust me.
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Can you link the boosts your using to push your to that? My boss has the Galaxy S II now and after much debate and using the Galaxy for a bit i decided i like the Thrill better as an overall phone it simply has a better flow to it and does everything i need plus has the Wow factor with the 3D which, since i work at at&t in one of stores this proves more beneficial to me in the long run. I would love to have some form of boost to put my Thrill up there closer to the Galaxy.
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Can you link the boosts your using to push your to that?
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For stock:
Build.prop tweaks
Supercharger V6
If you want my specific set up, then you will need Root and CWM. Flash Thiaiz Rom and follow his instructions for "extra speed", replace the build.prop with this one, and then install Supercharger V6.
Realityfalse said:
My boss has the Galaxy S II now and after much debate and using the Galaxy for a bit i decided i like the Thrill better as an overall phone it simply has a better flow to it and does everything i need plus has the Wow factor with the 3D which, since i work at at&t in one of stores this proves more beneficial to me in the long run. I would love to have some form of boost to put my Thrill up there closer to the Galaxy.
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The SGS2 is and will be a much better phone (imo). The only thing the Thrill has over it is the 3D. The SGS2 has a better camera, audio chip, cpu/gpu, display, support, battery life, user-experience (a lot faster), etc. Unless you REALLY care about the 3D, I'd highly recommend the SGS2 over the Thrill.
As for you job, why can't you just get the AT&T SGS2 which has NFC?
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For stock:
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As for you job, why can't you just get the AT&T SGS2 which has NFC?
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I prefer the Thrill because to the average user the ability of the galaxy II will go unnoticed and they will never "take it out of first gear" so to speak so the 3D feature of the Thrill weighs heavier to the clientele we service, atleast in my experience. If i show them a video of Avatar in 3D compared to a benchmark score of the Galaxy which do you think they are going to appreciate more?
And thanks for the tips im going to have to look into that rom you have and see how it will work for me. I have supercharger on mine now and the results have been minimal, though i am sure it is due to my lack of experience with Supercharger. I have the hard to kill launcher and the aggressive one settings. Any tips on how to tweak it?
Realityfalse said:
If i show them a video of Avatar in 3D compared to a benchmark score of the Galaxy which do you think they are going to appreciate more?
And thanks for the tips im going to have to look into that rom you have and see how it will work for me. I have supercharger on mine now and the results have been minimal, though i am sure it is due to my lack of experience with Supercharger. I have the hard to kill launcher and the aggressive one settings. Any tips on how to tweak it?
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Probably the SGS2 if you compared them side-by-side. The benchmark would make them think "this is one faster so its better" and when you compare the LCD on the Thrill to the SAMOLED+ on the SGS2 they will see MUCH better colors on the SGS2 and think that it is a higher quality phone, and the price also suggests this. Also, when your demoing the SGS2 you can compare it to any smartphone's browser in the store and I guarantee you the SGS2 will load it up first. You can say that's a combination of the phones fast 1.2GHz processor and AT&T's 4G network.
Personally, I think its easier to sell a SGS2 than a Thrill to someone either knowledgeable or ignorant. Anyways, I use option 7 (multi-tasking) for Supercharger.
If I'm running the thriller rom, would the supercharger do anything in terms of performance
Yes, Supercharger should make your phone faster no matter what Rom you're on (even stock).
So, what was the GS2 quadrant score? I just ran it and got 2678 and have had over 2700 before. Completely stock and unrooted.
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Probably the SGS2 if you compared them side-by-side. The benchmark would make them think "this is one faster so its better" and when you compare the LCD on the Thrill to the SAMOLED+ on the SGS2 they will see MUCH better colors on the SGS2 and think that it is a higher quality phone, and the price also suggests this. Also, when your demoing the SGS2 you can compare it to any smartphone's browser in the store and I guarantee you the SGS2 will load it up first. You can say that's a combination of the phones fast 1.2GHz processor and AT&T's 4G network.
Personally, I think its easier to sell a SGS2 than a Thrill to someone either knowledgeable or ignorant. Anyways, I use option 7 (multi-tasking) for Supercharger.
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I very highly doubt the "average" user would give a rats rear about benchmarks and would much prefer watching a video in 3D. As for everyone always placing the SGSII with "Higher Benchmarks" above the thrill. Let's think for a second, once the thrill has a new Kernel and GB which the SGSII has than they will most likely be on par on benchmark scores. Secondly the thing that threw me for a loop the most about the SGSII is the fact that you have to BUY an adapter for the dang phone to even use HDMI capability when almost all of the newer phones coming out have a dedicated HDMI port and are coming with the cables. As for the SuperAmoled + that is only going to take you so far considering the resolution is still the basic 480X800. Also in regards to what loads the browser faster go look at the video reviews between these two. The thrill actually did that faster in the video's ironically. So yea throw in the No HDMI unless you pay MORE money plus the 3D plus the fact that the Thrill is Very close to on par with the SGSII without GB yea do the math a little bit on which would be easier to sell at that point. Truthfully the SGSII is an easier sell to Geek's than your Average person and even than the 3D is very cool and this phone has a Lot of potential that it is not utilizing with Froyo.
malickie said:
I very highly doubt the "average" user would give a rats rear about benchmarks and would much prefer watching a video in 3D.
Secondly the thing that threw me for a loop the most about the SGSII is the fact that you have to BUY an adapter for the dang phone to even use HDMI capability when almost all of the newer phones coming out have a dedicated HDMI port and are coming with the cables.
As for the SuperAmoled + that is only going to take you so far considering the resolution is still the basic 480X800. Also in regards to what loads the browser faster go look at the video reviews between these two. The thrill actually did that faster in the video's ironically. So yea throw in the No HDMI unless you pay MORE money plus the 3D plus the fact that the Thrill is Very close to on par with the SGSII without GB yea do the math a little bit on which would be easier to sell at that point.
Truthfully the SGSII is an easier sell to Geek's than your Average person and even than the 3D is very cool and this phone has a Lot of potential that it is not utilizing with Froyo.
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I don't think they would care about benchmarks itself, but I do think they would interpret them as the SGS2 being faster, and its natural to want the fastest device.
Its not common for phones to come with cables that connect your phone to your TV. I was actually really surprised when AT&T included one with the Infuse and Thrill.
SAMOLED+ provides much better quality/colors and the 800x480 screen resolution is standard on Android (meaning all apps fit it the screen perfectly). As for the browser, no. The SGS2 is faster in any comparison I've seen and from my own experience with both. Its also hw accelerated so it will be smoother than any other Android device.
Lets say the Average Joe knows nothing about these two phones and so he looks at their spec sheet. 2.3 Vs. 2.2, 8MP Vs. 5MP, SAMOLED+ Vs. LCD, 1.2Ghz Vs. 1.0Ghz, 1GB RAM Vs. 512MB Ram, 16GB Vs 8GB, Thin Vs. Fat, Light Vs. Heavy. If he used the devices he would also find the experience on the SGS2 faster and smoother in everything and the screen would make the Thrill's look washed out. He looks at 3D content and either he likes it or it hurts his eyes. He then compares the pros/cons of both and the only thing the Thrill has over the SGS2 is the 3D and price.
The SGS2 sells itself.
My benchmark on thrill
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Killer Bee said:
I don't think they would care about benchmarks itself, but I do think they would interpret them as the SGS2 being faster, and its natural to want the fastest device.
Its not common for phones to come with cables that connect your phone to your TV. I was actually really surprised when AT&T included one with the Infuse and Thrill.
SAMOLED+ provides much better quality/colors and the 800x480 screen resolution is standard on Android (meaning all apps fit it the screen perfectly). As for the browser, no. The SGS2 is faster in any comparison I've seen and from my own experience with both. Its also hw accelerated so it will be smoother than any other Android device.
Lets say the Average Joe knows nothing about these two phones and so he looks at their spec sheet. 2.3 Vs. 2.2, 8MP Vs. 5MP, SAMOLED+ Vs. LCD, 1.2Ghz Vs. 1.0Ghz, 1GB RAM Vs. 512MB Ram, 16GB Vs 8GB, Thin Vs. Fat, Light Vs. Heavy. If he used the devices he would also find the experience on the SGS2 faster and smoother in everything and the screen would make the Thrill's look washed out. He looks at 3D content and either he likes it or it hurts his eyes. He then compares the pros/cons of both and the only thing the Thrill has over the SGS2 is the 3D and price.
The SGS2 sells itself.
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Yes but do you think the extra 100 dollars is worth that phone that will be outdated in half of a year? Nobody can judge the Thrill because they never advertised it, no commercials were released and everybody is amazed at the phone and they always ask what kind it is. It's a great phone, and it has and puts forward some amazing performances.
Hey guys. I'm wondering if anyone has personal experience with the amd fx 4100 or that series? Or even the phenom ii vs a core i5? I have only seen benchmarks and opinions based on benchmarks. But as we all know benchmarks can be incredibly biased and flawed I need something reliable that can process stuff (for games) decently fast. Before we get into the other things that matter I will be getting decent ram either way and a mobo that works well with the processor. Please just hit me up with personal experience thanks guys
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I have a Phenom ii x6 1100t and it screams.
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Okay thanks for the move and the reply. Spec wise including the l3 cache tells me it is awesome by the people keep saying it blows once again most of the crap people are talking is based on benchmarks... So I think it's mostly poorly educated individuals on it I was planning to build an amd comp but after all the negative It's starting to make me second guess the specs : / thanks though anymore input would also be appreciated!
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Are you looking for a drop in replacment for your current CPU or are you planning on a total upgrade; Mobo, CPU, the lot?
The obvious choice is the Intel 'Sandybridge' i5-2500K, or 2600K if you do a lot of Multi-threaded work like transcoding. You can expect to get between 4-4.5Ghz out of one of these without any problems.
If you can wait a while, the new 'Ivybridge' chips aren't too far away and the platform will bring native USB3 among other things.
Thanks looking to actually build a new pc. Mostly gaming and routine tasks. Currently running a Q6600 Intel processor with some stock mobo. Probably nothing good. I just need something that works well I honestly don't need anything too intense I may go with the fx 6100, i can get one for $100 near here.
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lorddart said:
Thanks looking to actually build a new pc. Mostly gaming and routine tasks. Currently running a Q6600 Intel processor with some stock mobo. Probably nothing good. I just need something that works well I honestly don't need anything too intense I may go with the fx 6100, i can get one for $100 near here.
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Do not, i repeat, do NOT buy an AMD 'Bulldozer' FX. They are a total disaster generally, but even worse for gaming!
i5-2500K is hands down the best bang for buck that you will get right now.
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I agree, while I am an AMD fan because of the pricing, you would definitely enjoy a 2500k. Pair it up with a nice mobo and a good gpu and you'll be set, 4 or 8Gb of RAM at 1600mhz will be great for anything you are doing. I highly suggest investing in a solid state drive, if you told us your budget I could spec something out for you. And NEVER skimp out on the power supply, you want a high quality psu always, corsair is well known for good psu's.
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So question here is why is the bulldozer such a disaster like what's the problem with them? Does anyone know what's causing the performance failure? And i want to say my budget is about 400 I could budge a little though
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Do not, i repeat, do NOT buy an AMD 'Bulldozer' FX. They are a total disaster generally, but even worse for gaming!
i5-2500K is hands down the best bang for buck that you will get right now.
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I appreciate the image once again I'm hoping for actual experience use not benchmarks because I've seen about a million benchmarks as to why I should get the i5 2500k despite it having a higher price tag.
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Experience use? You'll have to go with the reviewers and their benchmarks on that one. As for user reviews, you won't be seeing many. Why? Because nobody in their right minds is buying into Bulldozer when a better performing SandyBridge can be had for less money!
Call me old fashioned if you want. But my AMD Phenom II x4 965 quad-core processor still kicks ass!
I'm not into benchmarking statistics because they don't measure everyday performance after everyday use. To me, the real concern should be "After months of use, will my PC perform just as fast as it did the 1st day it came out of the box?" I can say for my PC, it does perform just as fast as it did on day 1. That's because I did the research on all the components and planned my build very carefully. My PC is now 3 years old and I still get to enjoy the blazing speeds that it can deliver!
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Experience use? You'll have to go with the reviewers and their benchmarks on that one. As for user reviews, you won't be seeing many. Why? Because nobody in their right minds is buying into Bulldozer when a better performing SandyBridge can be had for less money!
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Yeah I gotcha for sure. I just don't get it all but okay i'll have to figure it all out. I do appreciate the info though sorry if my request was unclear. But I appreciate it. Thank you I don't see much for deals on pc parts this black friday curses! Oh well
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Call me old fashioned if you want. But my AMD Phenom II x4 965 quad-core processor still kicks ass!
I'm not into benchmarking statistics because they don't measure everyday performance after everyday use. To me, the real concern should be "After months of use, will my PC perform just as fast as it did the 1st day it came out of the box?" I can say for my PC, it does perform just as fast as it did on day 1. That's because I did the research on all the components and planned my build very carefully. My PC is now 3 years old and I still get to enjoy the blazing speeds that it can deliver!
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Thanks yeah I get you and I agree. Although I think consistent performance is based on more than processor but I think that's what you were saying as well.
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Lol I have amd sempron
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Thanks yeah I get you and I agree. Although I think consistent performance is based on more than processor but I think that's what you were saying as well.
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Sorry if I didn't clarify myself. Consistent performance is based on the components of the computer system as a whole. I just used the processor as an example since we were talking about CPUs.
Remember i asked about the possibility of a drop in upgrade? If your current board will support Bulldozer CPU's, (which it might as the Socket is backwards compatable), and if your current CPU is pretty weak compared to the FX, it makes for a sensible upgrade path to buy one.
The reason i add this is because the money saved doing that, rather than buying a whole new system, can be spent on an SSD for your Primary Drive. You talk about the performance of the system as a whole. Well, that's the most important upgrade you could make right now.
The IO sub-system has been the bottleneck in modern computers for years. Once we had multi-core processing, more memory bandwidth than you can shake a stick at and Graphics power to run pretty much anything, it all went to pot as soon as you had two applications trying to access your HDD at the same time. Playing a game when your virus scanner started up? The game becomes a chundering mess!
I'm on my second SSD now and it's the wisest money i ever invested in my PC. If you want an all round improvement, something that makes every second of PC use more pleasing, buy an SSD.
Of course, every time i have to use the work PC now, i end up wanting to kick the crap out of it for being so lacking in comparison.
Okay thanks yeah I go nuts when I have to use the work computer already. Well for $100 the fx 6100 can't be too bad and I'd get 20% off a motherboard. My main desire there is I really want mobo that supports ddr3 so I can upgrade my terrible ram too. And yeah i'd want an ssd probably sata iii was the dream. Any thoughts on this, I'd probably get a 64g one would this be decently sufficient, also has anyone checked out the Seagate monentus xt? I don't plan on getting it but yeah just curious.
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Don't skimp on size. 64GB won't be sufficient. Buy reliability and size rather than speed. i.e an Intel 320 160GB (SATA 2) > Any 64GB SATA 3.
Hmm okay i think I found a 120gb one i'll probably go with decent reviews and such. And I would like sata iii just because it will have more future use, but is the sata ii pretty good compared to a normal hdd?
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Hey guys, long time android owner (since the G1,) and my previous phone was the OG Atrix (may he rest in piece, part of the screen stopped working, I think I just fried it from too many flashes haha), I am thinking of getting a Vivid as my next phone, and I was wondering if there is anything I should know about it? How does Qualcomm's processor stack up to the Tegra 2? I am assuming the camera is better (Vivid has a higher megapixel camera), and how easy is the rootability of this phone and how is ROM development coming along?? I have heard that the battery is kind of on the bad side, but there are ways around that. Anyway, if you guys could pitch in your 2 cents I'd appreciate that!
Well...there isn't much Rom development to be honest...but what few devs are left are making incredible roms! So if your a flashaholic...might not be the device for you...but if you just like a good stable Rom then this phone might suit you
Rooting isn't to hard, it can be done with the vivid tool kit which is stickies in the dev section...it walks you through the process (unlock bootloader, flash recovery, flash root package or Rom), you also have the option to s-off or leave it s-on...if your s-off everything can be flashed from recovery...if your s-on everything except radios and kernels can be flashed through recovery...if your s on you have to flash kernels using a computer, command prompt and USB cable...(fastboot flash boot boot.img)
Battery is alright depending on Rom/kernel...on elegancia blitz with stockish kernel this is ky battery life:
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Calling it a day...with 30% left after 15 hours and 50 minutes...not bad
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i would spend the 100$ and get a One X vivid it great but bad battery life as seen above (if you want to go out at night buy an extra battery) im going to buy an extra battery because i have resorted to staying on ginger bread to maintain the 24 hours of battery that i need in a phone (ovbiously light usage) to put it in perspective 30 min of watching ted talks at full brightness drained my battery 40% today. (mind you on ginger bread the phone uses basically 0 battery when the screen is off) also 3g talk time is only like 5 hours so talking on the phone kills battery life
I actually came from an atrix as well. Battery hasn't been too big of an issue but its only been with light use but heavy tethering
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Right now, it would probably be better to fork out $80/$100 for the One X(ATM Amazon has it for $79.99). The Vivid isn't bad, but development is somewhat slow over here and the One X is technically a better phone with more active development. That's just my two cents, though.
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Right now, it would probably be better to fork out $80/$100 for the One X(ATM Amazon has it for $79.99). The Vivid isn't bad, but development is somewhat slow over here and the One X is technically a better phone with more active development. That's just my two cents, though.
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Unless, of course, you want a removable battery and a place to put an SD-Card. The One X doesn't have that (iPhone clone). The Vivid is a good, solid phone for my purposes. Battery life is OK, I get maybe a day and a half usually with light use. Comes with Gingerbread, but there is an Over-The-Air upgrade that should pop up almost as soon as you activate. The on-screen keyboard has swyping capability, I have been trying it out and like it just as much as official Swype.
Probably a good idea to browse this forum, lots of good information here.
I like mine but wouldn't have gotten it if I had to do it again. Sense 3.6 ruins the ics experience and battery life is in between bad and terrible. Developers are struggling with aosp roms due to ril issues imposed by att, and you nearly have to void your warranty to put custom roms on. It's a great phone if you just leave it on stock and can deal with Sense 3.6. It's fast and has an awesome camera, but you still have to deal with the battery life and htc never made an official extended battery which imo seems odd as they usually do. There are third party extended batteries but good luck finding a case. And finally, I think it's one and done when it comes to android updates.
If you want a good every day phone and can deal with the poor battery life than go for it. If you want a phone with good development keep looking as it's simply not a developers phone.
I don't regret the purchase and I still like it but I wouldn't do it again if that makes sense (no pun intended lol). Personally if you want a carrier phone and don't feel like paying big bucks for a GS3 or One X, or dealing with the BS that comes with either one, Get a regular Galaxy S2, otherwise buy a Galaxy Nexus. That's my personal reccomendation, others may disagree, but I was in the market for a GS2, non lte, when a friend of mine said LTE was worth it, so with the skyrocket being $200 at the time, I went for the Vivid. IMO LTE is just unnecessary, HSPA+ is plenty fast, and LTE drains the battery too much, and with a 2-3 gig cap, what's the point of 50mb/s download speed anyway?
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just wanted to chime in, as I was considering buying a Raider used. I too am coming from an Atrix 4G, and the wait for ICS with proper Tegra 2 drivers has been annoying.
Here's what I know. Almost all of HTC's 2010/2011 phones (Sensation, Desire HD and Incredible S) have been plagued with bad battery life. I can attest to that as I had the Desire HD and incredible S and no amount of ROM, radio and kernel flashing to get the battery life to be significantly better than what it was. I've considered the Sensation, but I've heard bad things about battery life too.
I can honestly say that the Atrix has considerably better life, partially because of it's bigger battery (1930 mAH) and that it has a smaller, lower quality screen. HTC's battery life did not hold a candle to it at all. Keep that in mind. You might need an extended battery or something to match the performance.
This phone has a ridiculously small battery for such a large phone with an lte modem. 1650mah...and no extended option which I don't get. Htc usually is pretty good about extended battery options but they forgot about the vivid
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I got Vivid and One X. Actually I don't like one X for some reasons:
-Internal Memory: 32GB, but you only have 1.7GB for Apps compare to 3.7GB Vivid.
-The Storage on One X about 24GB, but the copy speed is slow ~8-10MB/s. My Vivid with class 10 sdcard is about 14-18Mb/s
-The menu button on One X was replaced by the Recent apps button. For what, show off Sense 4.0 functions? There is a way to fix it, and AT&T is making a patch for this.
-One X has a bigger and nice screen but light weight, I dropped it about 4-5 times because of the weight. When I'm using Vivid, It feel solid and tough in my hand.
I would stick with Vivid for a long time , the design is very good unlike other HTC phones.
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HTC M9 disassembled
After one week?
Well it's been 1 week now, and boy it's been great so far. Day 1 - set up. Day 2 - unlocked - rooted. Day 3 - wishing for s-off and Xposed. I kept my M8 as my phone while I was preparing my M9. Days 4 thru 7 - putting it through some strenuous testing.
I have almost 400 apps installed with many running in the background all the time. The M9 breezes through all of my apps with little hesitation. My M8 did well with all of my apps, but the M9 just seems to pop through them a split second faster.
I'm not a fan of benchmark tests; I believe they are flawed. You run a test, and then run one 5 mins later, and get 2 completely different results. Plus the tests seem to favor certain brands over others, as well as different architectures. I prefer real world testing. How a device performs using it daily in a real life enviroment.
That being said I did do some benchmark tests. My M9 performed incredibly well with both AnTuTu and Velamo. With Velamo the Metal score was 2302, Multicore 1981, and Chrome Browser 3516. All very good scores. With AnTuTu my score was 54728. Also very good, but these are subjective. I am fairly new to the Android phone modding world, but I have been building custom computers for 20 years. Android phones are just a computer, and as it is with all computers performance will vary depending on applications installed, and many other elements including environmental conditions.
Getting to the quality of the M9. HTC has created another masterpiece. In the tradition of the M7 and M8 the build quality is superb. it's easy to tell that you're holding a well built piece of equipment.
It looks and feels very much like the M8: however, with some nice subtle differences. The power button is now on the side, but it should have been placed above the volume buttons in my opinion.
Well that's all for now. I have to get some sleep, but I will try to update this in another week.
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Well it's been 1 week now, and boy it's been great so far. Day 1 - set up. Day 2 - unlocked - rooted. Day 3 - wishing for s-off and Xposed. I kept my M8 as my phone while I was preparing my M9. Days 4 thru 7 - putting it through some strenuous testing.
I have almost 400 apps installed with many running in the background all the time. The M9 breezes through all of my apps with little hesitation. My M8 did well with all of my apps, but the M9 just seems to pop through them a split second faster.
I'm not a fan of benchmark tests; I believe they are flawed. You run a test, and then run one 5 mins later, and get 2 completely different results. Plus the tests seem to favor certain brands over others, as well as different architectures. I prefer real world testing. How a device performs using it daily in a real life enviroment.
That being said I did do some benchmark tests. My M9 performed incredibly well with both AnTuTu and Velamo. With Velamo the Metal score was 2302, Multicore 1981, and Chrome Browser 3516. All very good scores. With AnTuTu my score was 54728. Also very good, but these are subjective. I am fairly new to the Android phone modding world, but I have been building custom computers for 20 years. Android phones are just a computer, and as it is with all computers performance will vary depending on applications installed, and many other elements including environmental conditions.
Getting to the quality of the M9. HTC has created another masterpiece. In the tradition of the M7 and M8 the build quality is superb. it's easy to tell that you're holding a well built piece of equipment.
It looks and feels very much like the M8: however, with some nice subtle differences. The power button is now on the side, but it should have been placed above the volume buttons in my opinion.
Well that's all for now. I have to get some sleep, but I will try to update this in another week.
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whats your stats on battery life?
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whats your stats on battery life?
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I'm not sure how well it will be under normal use. It appears to be about the same as my M8 was while extreme power using. I'll know more about normal use battery life after I've calmed down a bit. Also I plan on tweaking the battery performance after I can figure out how to decompile the SystemUI apk. I'm getting about 8 hours the way I'm using it now.
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Also I plan on tweaking the battery performance after I can figure out how to decompile the SystemUI apk. I'm getting about 8 hours the way I'm using it now.
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Sad you have to tweak it though. HTC needs to optimize their battery out of the box. Why should we need to tweak it!
Note to HTC: It's a flagship people!
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Sad you have to tweak it though. HTC needs to optimize their battery out of the box. Why should we need to tweak it!
Note to HTC: It's a flagship people!
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I agree, but I haven't found a high end smartphone yet that has the battery life that I want. Samsung, LG, Apple, HTC, none of them have performed well the way I use a phone.
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I agree, but I haven't found a high end smartphone yet that has the battery life that I want. Samsung, LG, Apple, HTC, none of them have performed well the way I use a phone.
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Agreed, so put a 3200 or 3500 battery as LG has done:silly:
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Agreed, so put a 3200 or 3500 battery as LG has done:silly:
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That would be the way to solve the problem, but I'm sure that most people use their phones in a way that the batteries the manufacturers put in them are sufficient. Look at Samsung reducing the size of their flagships battery. I don't think they will try to accommodate us power users anytime soon.
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What the OEM's need to do is make their phones where we can add a larger battery like they used to.
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whats your stats on battery life?
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After one day (13 hrs) of using my M9 like a normal person would use a cell phone I have 40% battery left.
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Thanks Cam
Don't forget it can be push to 2k resolution with a dpi of 577 display.. This phone is is definitely a high tier or highest in the market.
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Don't forget it can be push to 2k resolution with a dpi of 577 display.. This phone is is definitely a high tier or highest in the market.
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The camera on this phone takes awesome pictures. I don't understand why so many people say it's not. Maybe they just don't know how to use such a fine camera.
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The camera on this phone takes awesome pictures. I don't understand why so many people say it's not. Maybe they just don't know how to use such a fine camera.
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Problem is that if you have a bad launch then you stay in that area as far as the market is predicted.. The camera is superb now., But No one will give it a chance since the reviews of the m9 has past .
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Well it's been 1 week now, and boy it's been great so far. Day 1 - set up. Day 2 - unlocked - rooted. Day 3 - wishing for s-off and Xposed.
sorry if I sound noob but I would like to know how did you unlock the bootloader?. I check htc dev website everyday but there has been no update at all.
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jbfountain said:
Well it's been 1 week now, and boy it's been great so far. Day 1 - set up. Day 2 - unlocked - rooted. Day 3 - wishing for s-off and Xposed.
sorry if I sound noob but I would like to know how did you unlock the bootloader?. I check htc dev website everyday but there has been no update at all.
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There are many guides out there. I don't know why you couldn't find any, but here's a link to one. Follow everything closely. Make sure that you back up your phone via the HTC option in settings, because you will lose all of your data.
Good luck.
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=3087354
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I Truly Enjoy XDA-Developers.com with this Fabulous HTC One M9
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nice
its really cool device as like as before Htc device.
Yes, yes, it's possible to love a phone. Heck, you sleep next to it, don't you? Rate this thread to indicate your love for the HTC 10, all things considered. A higher rating indicates that the HTC 10 is an incredible phone that you enjoy tremendously. You love it.
Then, drop a comment if you have anything to add!
Nice
nice.
I wouldn't mind if it were a tad larger (I loved the One max and my Moto X Pure) but I do consider this phone to be near perfection.
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I wouldn't mind if it were a tad larger (I loved the One max and my Moto X Pure) but I do consider this phone to be near perfection.
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I don't know how to explain it, I don't necessarily want it to be larger per se, but I maybe they way HTC designed the phone around the screen. My Nextbit Robin is said to have a 5.2" screen as well, but it's easier to type on my Nextbit Robin than my HTC 10. I think I like the look of the HTC 10 curved/chamfered edges, but I feel like the curviness of the phone makes it harder to type. I don't know if that makes sense, but yeah... Something about it makes it harder or not feel as great in hand to type and what not.
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I think overall I love the HTC 10 though. I love the HTC Boom Sound and Dolby Audio, USB-C, Qualcomm Quick Charge 3.0 (though I see many phones with this technology get and claim 0-50% in 30 minutes than 0-80% in 35 minutes like Qualcomm originally promised, which honestly is slower than Qualcomm Quick Charge 2.0 which I think claimed 0-60% in 30 minutes), the camera, clean and simple user-experience, micro sd card slot (w/ Adoptable storage), and Wi-Fi calling directly out-the-box.
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I don't know how to explain it, I don't necessarily want it to be larger per se, but I maybe they way HTC designed the phone around the screen. My Nextbit Robin is said to have a 5.2" screen as well, but it's easier to type on my Nextbit Robin than my HTC 10. I think I like the look of the HTC 10 curved/chamfered edges, but I feel like the curviness of the phone makes it harder to type. I don't know if that makes sense, but yeah... Something about it makes it harder or not feel as great in hand to type and what not.
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I think overall I love the HTC 10 though. I love the HTC Boom Sound and Dolby Audio, USB-C, Qualcomm Quick Charge 3.0 (though I see many phones with this technology get and claim 0-50% in 30 minutes than 0-80% in 35 minutes like Qualcomm originally promised, which honestly is slower than Qualcomm Quick Charge 2.0 which I think claimed 0-60% in 30 minutes), the camera, clean and simple user-experience, micro sd card slot (w/ Adoptable storage), and Wi-Fi calling directly out-the-box.
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I find that my 10 charges faster than my QC 2.0 phones with a smaller battery. Have you tried comparing yourself?
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Trooper Thorn said:
I wouldn't mind if it were a tad larger (I loved the One max and my Moto X Pure) but I do consider this phone to be near perfection.
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I find that my 10 charges faster than my QC 2.0 phones with a smaller battery. Have you tried comparing yourself?
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Yes, and no. I charge my Nextbit Robin & HTC 10 everyday, but haven't necessarily paid attention to which one is faster. But from what I can gather, it's not any faster. But I'd have to test it out.
However, I have paid attention to the speeds from 0% on up, and the HTC 10 does 0-30% in 35 minutes. Though that is what HTC claimed, I was looking forward to Qualcomm Quick Charge 3.0 and Qualcomm's claim of 0-80% in 35 minutes. So to me, it just defeated the whole purpose. @richii0207
I am extremely happy with the phone. Got it June 30th and still learning. I have been able to get some great pictures and videos of my new puppy. A GSD/Husky. I use it almost every day for texting. Didn't do much before, but reasons did not present themselves. Now it is mostly with my dog walking partners. I am totally amazed at how long the battery lasts -and- how quick it charges. This is only my 2nd Smartphone so all I have to compare it to is my almost 5 yr old ReZound.
HTC 10? More like HTC 10/10)
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Yes, and no. I charge my Nextbit Robin & HTC 10 everyday, but haven't necessarily paid attention to which one is faster. But from what I can gather, it's not any faster. But I'd have to test it out.
However, I have paid attention to the speeds from 0% on up, and the HTC 10 does 0-30% in 35 minutes. Though that is what HTC claimed, I was looking forward to Qualcomm Quick Charge 3.0 and Qualcomm's claim of 0-80% in 35 minutes. So to me, it just defeated the whole purpose. @richii0207
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Qualcomm never said that the 10 charged that fast, or any phone in particular for that matter. As you can imagine, a phone with 3000mah charges significantly faster than a phone with 5000 mah and a phone that is streaming while charging will charge slower than an idle phone. As Qualcomm and HTCs word for the 10, it charges up to 50% in just 30 minutes.
Here is the source: www.htc.com
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Best HTC device ever
just switched from iphone to htc!
In my opinion the HTC 10 is one of the best phone HTC has produced since the One M7, i skipped the One M9, which was terrible, im using HTC phones since the G1(or HTC Dream), i always loved HTC phones, they are just different, something special, like me haha.
I love my HTC 10, especially in that black color, its just perfect. I wouldn't mind if the screen was a tad bigger, like 5.5inch, but its OK as it is.
So i think that the 10 is really underrated, i think it's because HTC gain a bad reputation since the disappointing M9, and steep prices of their phones, which is true in my opinion, as you can get a flagship phone like OnePlus 3, in half the price.
HTC 10 is the best, love it. :good:
I'd write a long reviews but when I hit submit, the lovely xda forum say that need to be logged to submit a reviews, and reset the form. I love you random programmer guy!
Anyway, long story short, I love my htc, I resisted a lot of drops, and is working like the first day. I just miss the sony flashtool from my z2, being able to install updates without wipe (since my phones are rooted and android 6 wont install updates on modified system partition's phones).
I won't be going back to Samsung any time soon. For me the 10 is the perfect size and the build quality is excellent. I paid cash up front for a US unlocked directly from HTC US. It came with no bloatware and was easy to root and install a custom rom. Best phone I have ever had.
I ran custom roms on Samsung devices for years, but there always seemed to be something that didn't work. I would get a phone call and the screen would go black, or WiFi would keep dropping, it was always something. I haven't had any of those problems with the 10 on Sense-based custom roms.
HTC 10 deserves 10 out of 10. I got mine straight from HTC (unlocked) and converted to work on Verizon ( we have some really good devs like Santod, LeeDroid and MANY other who make this a dream device for a flashaholic like me). Camera is good, battery life is very good ( I get about 5 hours of screen on time) sound is very good for sure I can't recall a thing I don't like about this phone to be honest.
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Screen could have been better as well as internal storage could have been 64Gb default.
HTC's own apps ruin this phone. They substituted their good apps (Gallery and Music) with Google's and left the obscure garbage apps.
Thrillingly beautiful, breathtaking performance!! I wouldn't mind buying another HTC 10 if i needed it.
The speakers are fantastic, it charges really quickly and it looks amazing. Only slight complaint would be the camera, it's not bad but coming from a Note 7 the difference is noticeable. Overall 9.5/10.
It's a great phone and am happy to be back to owning an HTC phone.