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Might give up Nexus S for G2x :(

Is it a good idea? I'm tempted to sell off my Nexus and get the G2x the 15th when it comes out.
Discuss?
(If this is the wrong section, my bad, I'll gladly ask a mod to move it or delete it)

I also have a mytouch4g. I am going to keep my Nexus S because it is too good of a phone to sell in my opinion but I'm definitely selling the mytouch and getting the g2x.
Nexus S

The g2x looks very good but just cause it has a duel core
Doesn't make it better then the nexus s the ns will always get the first updates
over any phone on android plus the 1ghz hummingbird is a beast ..... I do
Like the g2x tv out options but when comes to speed the nexus s is just so fast I don't see how
they can make it any faster if I was u I would keep the nexus

512mb ram =(

Both have 512 mb of ram, but honestly you don't need more.
I really hate people that think more ram = more speed.
You probably think that 100 gb of ram would make a beast phone.
Anyways: Buying he G2x is plain stupid, android is not optimized to take advantage of dualcores, and the gpu is also weaker than the SGX 540.
The phone itself is kind of hard to hold, when I tried it in the store, it was just bad.
The sound is worse, the screen is worse, it lags more, there are no developers on any of the Tegra 2 devices (almost), its just a bad move to do that.
Stick with faster updates and a better phone in speed, stability, screen, sound, and other stuff.
The G2x is a great phone, but all its problems or disadvantages outweigh the positives.
Please do your self a favor and stop wasting your time thinking about this.

dario3040 said:
Both have 512 mb of ram, but honestly you don't need more.
I really hate people that think more ram = more speed.
You probably think that 100 gb of ram would make a beast phone.
Anyways: Buying he G2x is plain stupid, android is not optimized to take advantage of dualcores, and the gpu is also weaker than the SGX 540.
The phone itself is kind of hard to hold, when I tried it in the store, it was just bad.
The sound is worse, the screen is worse, it lags more, there are no developers on any of the Tegra 2 devices (almost), its just a bad move to do that.
Stick with faster updates and a better phone in speed, stability, screen, sound, and other stuff.
The G2x is a great phone, but all its problems or disadvantages outweigh the positives.
Please do your self a favor and stop wasting your time thinking about this.
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A lot of people really like the lg Optimus 2x. I also think I'm gonna get the g2x anyways because I like new gadgets. Paulobrien is one of the major android developers in my opinion, and he is using the 2x. Not trying to argue with you, just my reasons for wanting to get it, although I am not going to sell my nexus. I'm sure teamdouche will have someone with the g2x too, I think I saw koush or kmobs tweet about how they are gonna get it, I forgot which one of them
Nexus S

dario3040 said:
Both have 512 mb of ram, but honestly you don't need more.
I really hate people that think more ram = more speed.
You probably think that 100 gb of ram would make a beast phone.
Anyways: Buying he G2x is plain stupid, android is not optimized to take advantage of dualcores, and the gpu is also weaker than the SGX 540.
The phone itself is kind of hard to hold, when I tried it in the store, it was just bad.
The sound is worse, the screen is worse, it lags more, there are no developers on any of the Tegra 2 devices (almost), its just a bad move to do that.
Stick with faster updates and a better phone in speed, stability, screen, sound, and other stuff.
The G2x is a great phone, but all its problems or disadvantages outweigh the positives.
Please do your self a favor and stop wasting your time thinking about this.
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There are already many ROM options for the LG O2X. I don't see why the T-mobile G2X will not work with these.

Honestly I/O is right around the corner!!! I would wait to see what google has up its sleeves before I jump ship to the G2X. Its not all about hardware guys, the Nexus S is still one of the top of the line phones!!!

i'm jumping ship as soon as i get the Tmobile USA version
the SNS is not getting nearly as much attention from DEV & Coders as the N1 did

dario3040 said:
Buying he G2x is plain stupid, android is not optimized to take advantage of dualcore
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I'm sorry, but where are people getting this information from?
Everything on android uses threading or else the UI would be unusable. Threads are delegated to the available cores, more cores equals better performance.
You can have UI thread doing it's own thing and in the background have another thread calling sqlite, fetching a bitmap, crunching some numbers or whatever.
See that nice and smooth Flash video playing and your browser still being able to do other things ..threading.
You may not notice it on light applications, but anything that does heavier work will benefit from multiple cores.

why is this in the galaxy s II section.... lol

AllGamer said:
i'm jumping ship as soon as i get the Tmobile USA version
the SNS is not getting nearly as much attention from DEV & Coders as the N1 did
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Lets make that NO dev atention
JD

bbm21 said:
why is this in the galaxy s II section.... lol
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I don't know lmao, I posted it in the General Section of the Nexus S and it got moved?

dario3040 said:
Both have 512 mb of ram, but honestly you don't need more.
I really hate people that think more ram = more speed.
You probably think that 100 gb of ram would make a beast phone.
Anyways: Buying he G2x is plain stupid, android is not optimized to take advantage of dualcores, and the gpu is also weaker than the SGX 540.
The phone itself is kind of hard to hold, when I tried it in the store, it was just bad.
The sound is worse, the screen is worse, it lags more, there are no developers on any of the Tegra 2 devices (almost), its just a bad move to do that.
Stick with faster updates and a better phone in speed, stability, screen, sound, and other stuff.
The G2x is a great phone, but all its problems or disadvantages outweigh the positives.
Please do your self a favor and stop wasting your time thinking about this.
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Are you sure the Tegra 2 GPU is weaker than the SGX540? I lag on my Nexus S playing need for speed :/.
The screen is worse, I would miss the Super Amoled, maybe it's best to wait for the Galaxy S 2 and skip the G2X all together

The G2x does look nice but I've been spoiled to much with the super amoleddisplay on my vibrant so I'll stick with the SGS2.
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This thread wasn't even move to right section
anyways release date announced
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none contract $499
Im waiting for galaxy S2 hopefully the none tegra version has SGX543

demo23019 said:
This thread wasn't even move to right section
anyways release date announced
none contract $499
Im waiting for galaxy S2 hopefully the none tegra version has SGX543
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Nope, will have a Mali 400 quad core gpu
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JupiterDroid said:
Lets make that NO dev atention
JD
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Its quite sad too because it's a very very capable phone
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Serious_Beans said:
Is it a good idea? I'm tempted to sell off my Nexus and get the G2x the 15th when it comes out.
Discuss?
(If this is the wrong section, my bad, I'll gladly ask a mod to move it or delete it)
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To welcome yourself back to the random reboot days? Jk
Hopefully due to completely different software, hopefully the g2x has none of the 2z issues.

Yeah, it's a great phone, but the screen :/, after using SAMOLED I can't go back to LCD.

[Q] Which laptop should I get?

I'm starting college next month (I'm 18) and I'm trying to decide which laptop to purchase.
I had a thought about the Asus Transformer tablet/dock combo as I wanted to remain in the android modding field, but then I kinda realised that it's not going to be powerful enough, so my mind switched to a solid laptop/notebook instead.
I think I need a 14-15 inch led screen with core 2nd gen i5 (i7 is too expensive for me.) and as lightweight as possible. I'm going to be doing Bachelor in Electronic and Communication Engineering so the graphics should be good enough for some engineering drawings and picture editing, and for some nice gaming if possible. I don't have any knowledge about graphic cards, cache memory and RAM stuff btw. I'm thinking something not above $1000.
Which good models do you guys recommend me?
PS: I don't want Mac stuff, I need Windows 7 to work.
EDIT on 2nd of September:
Sorry to revive this old thread, but fact is, I still haven't purchased my laptop.
I'm looking for something (at max $1000) with core i5 and some other good specs as well as those 2 things:
1. HD webcam
2. backlit keyboard.
Those are very important. Thank you

I am a very happy owner of the Dell XPS 17 which I found really powerful, more than enough for gaming as well, and right now is probably one of the best choice on the market (from what the reviews said as well).
Anyway, you can start to customize the 15" inch version, the XPS 15 ,from 899$ with and I5 second generation (Sandybridge) and an Nvidia GeForce GT 550M 1GB RAM with Optimus Technology (saves battery).
it offers USB 3.0 as well, with the latest HDMI 1.4, card reader,1600x900p resolution screen, excellent Audio with Sub, and comes with a HD webcam integrated for HD video calls.
Enought for gaming (medium settings) and decent professional rendering.
http://www.dell.com/us/p/xps-l702x/pd?oc=dndokq1&model_id=xps-l702x
Hope it helped.

Really nice reply, I'm having a look at the XPS 15 right now, thank you very much. I tried running some search, came across the Lenovo IdeaPad 14" and the HP ENVY 14. What do you think about those?
I heard from user opinions that Dell are pretty good, and HP's build quality is kinda bad. I'm searching for some more models.
I had a look at the Alienware 14", kinda expensive for a laptop with no multitouch input :/

HP in general, is famous to have issues cooling problems, but not obviously on every model, Dell is definitely not a "saint" but they do the job, and from what I have read and my experience, they do it well.
The Alienware 14" is a good choice and it does have the same GPU on my XPS 17, which is the Nvidia 555M 3GB (pretty powerful card).
I wouldn't recommend thus a 14".
If you are planning to use it for casual gaming, but specially for professional rendering the resolution of the screen, is generally 1200x800, which is too low (HP Envy 14"; Lenovo IdeaPad), and it does bother you, if you have ever seen a 1080p or at least a 900p.
The alienware does have a 900p resolution, but you have to pay more.
With the alienware 14", anyway you will end up to have a smaller screen , which for a less amount of money you could get for a 15" inch with a very decent specs.
I also read in other forums people not really recommend a 14" inches, or at least they wouldn't buy it again. But this is just an individual opinion, depends entirely on you.
Personally, stick with the 15" and at least a 900p resolution, which you can find already in the basic configuration for a 899$, in the XPS 15, and if you want to reach a 1000$ customize it to have more power, except RAM, which you can upgrade by yourself for a cheaper price.

I have a 14" HP laptop and I love the size and portability... but the battery life is abominable. It gets maybe 90 minutes to a charge. I wouldn't recommend one for college use where you're going to be mobile for hours at a time.
My work laptop is a 14" Dell and I learned last week I can get 6 hours out of my battery (forgot to plug it in).
One thing to keep in mind with 15" or larger laptops is alot of them include a numpad with the keyboard these days. That means the QWERTY part of the keyboard is off-center to the left. I find this awkward to type on. I would recommend trying out this type of keyboard before committing to it.

dx0 said:
One thing to keep in mind with 15" or larger laptops is alot of them include a numpad with the keyboard these days. That means the QWERTY part of the keyboard is off-center to the left.
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As far as I know, only 17" has it, because of their size.

yukinok25 said:
As far as I know, only 17" has it, because of their size.
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I know of two people with 15.4" laptops that have a numpad. One is an Acer and the other is an HP.

My gateway 15.6" has full num pad. Nv35a is the model number. Beast of a computer. Triple core amd ati radeon 4250 hd 500 gb hdd, 4gb ram stock. Paid 439 from tiger direct
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I had a look at the Gateway,I'm not much into the design.
Checked out the Dell XPS 15z, looks pretty awesome. My favourite choice till now. The numberpad isnt a problem for me. Anyone else with nice advices? You guys are really helping me out.

the higher end sony vaios are pretty good

Always had a vaio. Never had a complaint
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+1 on vaio. Ill still take my gateway.
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get the new sony vaio they are pretty nice

Just to throw another option in here, here is what I am looking to buy soon.
http://www.xoticpc.com/sager-np5165-clevo-w150hr-p-3063.html
Beast of a computer just make sure to order the OS with it unless you have a license on you.

many vaio fans. i will agree but with the 8" portable ones as there quick and compact. lots of ref book guides use the windows format thats included in a disk....

It depends...what do you want to do with this laptop?
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Sorry to revive this old thread, but fact is, I still haven't purchased my laptop.
I'm gonna have a look at the VAIOs. I'm looking for something (at max $1000) with core i5 and some other good specs as well as those 2 things:
1. HD webcam
2. backlit keyboard.
Those are very important. Thank you

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Have a look through here to see if anything foots the bill. You'll not get better reviews:
http://www.anandtech.com/tag/mobile

Get asus
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Not sure if this will work for you but I just bought an Asus with an i5 on sale at best buy for 479. Integrated graphics but still it was a hell of a deal and I grabbed one. I'm very pleased with it. Ill look for a link.
http://bit.ly/rnk5Cq
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Would u suggest Incredible S ?? ( over Sensation?)

Hello guys, I'm here asking about your Incredible S, because I' m not 100% sure about buying it...
Esthetically I love it, the feeling of rubber it's wonderful: but I'm curious about how it's working this phone, opinion of people who use this phone everyday...
I would have already buy it, if it isn't that I've found Sensation for a difference of 80€.
Basically are u happy of this phone or u would throw out a window?? ( like me with my mega) a single core Vs a dual core is that much a difference???
Thank you.
p.s: rooting, flashing it's not a problem for me

Personally I love my incredible s...and the devs have been great! Screen is much better than the sensation but the dual core would be nice.. camera is also much better on the incredible s though...anyways I love my is!

i love my incs. the physicality of the phone is just what i wanted in a phone. great screen, great size, great feel. also, the dev support/interest is getting better by the day.
i imagine a dual core phone would be a little more snappy but also more battery hungry, but i can't say for certain since i don't have any experience with it. as far as single core phones go, you will not be disappointed.
ps battery life could be better but that's sense ui for ya. it's power hungry. i'm running miui and battery life has increased dramatically.
pps if you want a fair comparison, you would have to wait for someone who has tried both phones.

look here:
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=1218788
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=1217136

if u opt for single core phone and better battery life .. you should go for Inc S .. if u need dual core for far more better performance u can shift to sensation or xperia arc s.....
but in my opinion Inc S gives a great competition for dual core phones being a single core phone.
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comparison
I bought both phones at the same time and the sensation just how can i put it just not sensational.the screen just didn't have any appeal to it unless you cranked up The brightness but even then didn't look that impressive.The sensation in every day use didn't just didn't feel as nice as the incredible s it was just laggy, I know software updates and custom roms can overcome this but the incredible s just felt snappier.
The camera on still shots on both phones seem very on par with each other but unless you take alot of video the incredible s takes some nice shots.
the overall feel of the incredlible s is nicer but for the size of the phone the sensation is a nice phone.
I actually had three phones to choose from and the other was the desire s and in the end it was a choice between the desire s and incredible s ,of which i chose the incredible s and i am very happy with choice..

Incredible s is more incredible than sensation by the amount of custom roms \m/
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I am extremely happy with my IS, best $270 I spent in a long time.

I also love my incredible s, with its curve back cover..and the vivid color of the screen..

iv had both twice started with IS than to sensation than Back to IS the IS is much better phone dosnt have the cutting edge but it dose it right

zukri90 said:
Incredible s is more incredible than sensation by the amount of custom roms \m/
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the sensation has the greatest dev support if you consider number of ROMs than any other HTC phone.It is also better in every aspect.
The fact is that the IS is a single core last gen Android device, if you choose Android and have the money, go with a dual core phone whether its a Sensation or a GSII or a GN.
If you consider single core devices then pick the IS if you want good dev support or pick the Arc S if you want amazing looks.The IS sadly didn't became too popular with the devs as dual core devices started popping up one month after its launch and in addition, it didn't brought any thing new to the table(a IS is simply a upgraded DHD)
On topic, no.There is no reason to pick the IS over a Sensation unless you're getting it for a very cheap price.
the IS was made to deliver what the users want and it does it job very well, it looks good, performs good and packs a bunch of features but now after 9 months of its launch, there are better options available.

I wouldn't suggest getting a HTC. I like my IS its just I don't like sense and when you install a custom rom the camera is alot worse which means you get trade offs each way which you shouldn't have to on a new phone.

hussainmushahid said:
the sensation has the greatest dev support if you consider number of ROMs than any other HTC phone.It is also better in every aspect.
The fact is that the IS is a single core last gen Android device, if you choose Android and have the money, go with a dual core phone whether its a Sensation or a GSII or a GN.
If you consider single core devices then pick the IS if you want good dev support or pick the Arc S if you want amazing looks.The IS sadly didn't became too popular with the devs as dual core devices started popping up one month after its launch and in addition, it didn't brought any thing new to the table(a IS is simply a upgraded DHD)
On topic, no.There is no reason to pick the IS over a Sensation unless you're getting it for a very cheap price.
the IS was made to deliver what the users want and it does it job very well, it looks good, performs good and packs a bunch of features but now after 9 months of its launch, there are better options available.
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You just took the word right out of my mouth.
@TS, i have both phones and i recommend you to get a sensation xe or xl, there is no reason for you to pick a sensation over incs if you want a good performance and display phone. Of course you can choose incs if you want good battery life, and it has nice custom roms as well.

Try both in the hand, that was the deciding factor for me, IS fits well in the hand and pocket, Sensation is big and clumsy.
Sensation has a larger screen and dual core. However IS has a better screen of decent size and feels plenty fast.
The stock UI is now the same.
IS has worse audio quality but neither is suitable for listening to music indoors.
Sensation will get ICS from HTC and Incredible S will not, if that is important for you, get the Sensation.

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hussainmushahid said:
the sensation has the greatest dev support if you consider number of ROMs than any other HTC phone.It is also better in every aspect.
The fact is that the IS is a single core last gen Android device, if you choose Android and have the money, go with a dual core phone whether its a Sensation or a GSII or a GN.
If you consider single core devices then pick the IS if you want good dev support or pick the Arc S if you want amazing looks.The IS sadly didn't became too popular with the devs as dual core devices started popping up one month after its launch and in addition, it didn't brought any thing new to the table(a IS is simply a upgraded DHD)
On topic, no.There is no reason to pick the IS over a Sensation unless you're getting it for a very cheap price.
the IS was made to deliver what the users want and it does it job very well, it looks good, performs good and packs a bunch of features but now after 9 months of its launch, there are better options available.
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the IS has a better quality screen, much much better colour reproduction and better viewing angles (thats a fact)
the IS for most people fits much better in your band than the bigger and rounded sensation,
the IS has rotating buttons that the sensation dose not
the IS has a better back camera for pictures (fact)
the IS has a better front camera , higher res (fact)
the main reason the IS is better is because of the screen (you know the part you use every times you use your phone)
the sensation has dual core which means 1080p recording (quality isnt there tho)
the sensation has much better dev support no question
the sensation has .3" more screen and a higher resolution (qhd) which isnt that great for web pages because 4.3 inches still makes you zoom

To me, give IS due core while keep everything else unchanged, then I will have a device which is simply, perfect.
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jul644 said:
the IS has a better quality screen, much much better colour reproduction and better viewing angles (thats a fact)
the IS for most people fits much better in your band than the bigger and rounded sensation,
the IS has rotating buttons that the sensation dose not
the IS has a better back camera for pictures (fact)
the IS has a better front camera , higher res (fact)
the main reason the IS is better is because of the screen (you know the part you use every times you use your phone)
the sensation has dual core which means 1080p recording (quality isnt there tho)
the sensation has much better dev support no question
the sensation has .3" more screen and a higher resolution (qhd) which isnt that great for web pages because 4.3 inches still makes you zoom
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1.The Sensation uses two screens, one made by SHARP and the other by Acer, now some users like the SHARP one while others like the Acer one so its their personal opinion.The IS uses the Acer one and the pixel density is also higher on the Sensation.If your main requirement is a good screen then SAMOLED+ is the way to go.
2.They both fit perfectly well(I've used them both) its not like that Sensation is a Galaxy Note.
3.Rotating buttons, what's so special ? they don't even work in AOSP ROMs.
4.IS is slightly better when it comes to camera, you can compare it using the gsmarena compare tool.The reason behind this is because the Sensation compresses even more pictures than the IS.But then again, choosing a single core phone over a dual core phone just for a slightly better camera is not feasible.
Nevertheless HTC sucks at cameras due to excessive noise compression, even my N900 took better pictures than my IS, its better to get a Samsung if you want a good camera.
5.I haven't used the front cam so cant say.MP don't make much difference when it comes to quality but I can expect VGA to suck.
6.No, the IS is better in no ways compared to a Sensation except for its battery but one can always do with a extended one as all Android phones suck in the battery department.The IS isn't priced good too, I can get a Galaxy S or a Nexus S for $100 cheaper.
7.Dual core phones are better in performance than single core phones and are future proof, the IS won't live a long life.Plus the Sensation just like almost every other dual core phone will be getting ICS officially.The IS wont.
8.Well nothing to comment on the developer support
9.Having a higher resolution is always better as there is more sharper text and you can fit more in the screen.WVGA is getting old now with qHD and 720p phones coming out.

IMO, if you're on a budget get the Incredible S.
If you're looking for a dual-core phone, I suggest getting Samsung's dual-core offerings. I have both IncS and Sensation, and frankly I don't see the performance difference between them. Right now anyway.

There are little differences you can see between single vs dual and even duo vs quad.
The Transformer performs half a second (500 milliseconds) slower than the Prime in heavy JavaScript browsing and we're talking about a 2core to 4core and 400 MHz core increase.
More cores never means faster or double speeds in any life situation unless the software is written for it.. 97% of the apps on the market are probably written for single core instructions.
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They are similar phones but the main difference apart from sense version is the screen res and size. The sensations higher res screen is nice but the incredible has a more vibrant and better viewibg angles. From day to day use, I never notice any benefits of dual core
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I think I regret buying the Nexus 4

I had the HTC One S before, but wanted the Google Nexus experience (vanilla Android, latest updates (and on this phone compared to the One S quad core, 2GB RAM, etc..) and the price was too good to pass up. I mean, the value for money with this phone is amazing, I don't think I have ever seen, or will ever see better, but...
Coming from the One S, it seems like a huge step down. The phone seems a lot bigger in comparison (mainly width and especially depth), yet when taking into consideration the on screen back/home buttons, the screen is pretty much the same size, but a little wider (maybe 5mm)
Also, when doing a Quadrant test, the One S looks much smoother on the video parts, and the overall score is miles better (score of 6452 vs 4798) on everything
One S v Nexus 4
CPU: 9211 v 10402
RAM: 12383 v 7020
I/O: 7408 v 4149
2D: 1014 v 247
3D: 2245 v 2173
The One S also has HTC Sense which I like (but can live without)
Maybe I will get used to this phone, or just appreciate it more when the next update comes out, but in the mean time I don't really see a huge improvement in speed/responsiveness or the screen over the One S
I can imagine it being a huge improvement over plenty of other phones however, but I think the One S is unbelievably underrated and actually more powerful than I thought it was before. I feel like the Nexus 4 is a downgrade for me right now. I understand the Nexus is thicker because of the wireless charging plate? Well, this is something I would give up for a slimmer phone, especially considering the phone doesn't come with a wireless charging unit.
I don't wanna sound like I'm just bashing the phone, is there anything I should try out on the Nexus 4 that I would be missing on other phones (already tried Photosphere which is great btw)

There is already a nexus 4 vs any other phone thread present as a sticky in which this should have been posted. Didn't need a whole new thread dedicated to this
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Honestly, noone cares...

I think I regret reading your thread

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I think I regret reading your thread
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Awe man you beat me to it:good:

Eh, if anything, I'm sure you could probably trade back for a One S.
Both are great phones, but at least you can say you gave the Nexus 4 a try.

I don't get why people care so much about the quadrant score. Nexus 4 runs very smooth; no lag at all. Does it makes you feel special when u see a higher number? Most of the stuff OP mentioned could been avoided if he/she done a little research before purchasing N4. It all comes down each user likeness. Now days just Google any phone vs any phone and you will see a very great comparison of every spec.
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I don't get why people care so much about the quadrant score. Nexus 4 runs very smooth; no lag at all. Does it makes you feel special when u see a higher number? Most of the stuff OP mentioned could been avoided if he/she done a little research before purchasing N4. It all comes down each user likeness. Now days just Google any phone vs any phone and you will see a very great comparison of every spec.
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This. Quadrant is a random number generator at best.

naripsta said:
Eh, if anything, I'm sure you could probably trade back for a One S.
Both are great phones, but at least you can say you gave the Nexus 4 a try.
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I like the Nexus 4, but I really like the One S too
In fact one thing I just noticed (found in another Google search) is if you put them side by side on a table they're the same depth (of course the One S is slimmer in the middle)
Maybe I need to get used to the feel of it...
I'm gonna use the Nexus 4 for one full week instead of the One S and see how it goes
Anything you recommend me trying out on the N4?
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I don't get why people care so much about the quadrant score. Nexus 4 runs very smooth; no lag at all. Does it makes you feel special when u see a higher number? Most of the stuff OP mentioned could been avoided if he/she done a little research before purchasing N4. It all comes down each user likeness. Now days just Google any phone vs any phone and you will see a very great comparison of every spec.
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Nah I don't care about the Quadrant score, but the scores just really surprised me. I think the RAM comes down to LPDDR2 (low power DDR2 instead of DDR2) and I don't know about the I/O (thought it was all flash storage)
The GPU results surprised me though (the video looks smoother) as I thought the N4 had a dedicated GPU chip?
One of the problems I think is everybody compares phones to the One X, nobody has really done any great One S v Nexus 4 comparisons

The nexus 4 runs fast, is a great phone to use, has sufficient battery life for me, and cost half of the HTC phone you mentioned.
I really don't see the point in running benchmarks all day and not worrying about real usage and real cost. If you want to be a benchmark jockey you will always be running after the latest and greatest phone and lusting after every new phone ever 2 months.
The nexus 4 is a great phone and a solid purchase. If you regret buying it, sell it and get something else. But if your nexus 4 isn't defective in some way realize that the problem is with you and your inability to be happy with anything, and not with the phone that is a great performer and great value. I can already see that you're the kind of guy who will never be happy with anything, as you owned an HTC One S and then bought a phone that came out 6 months later. You won't be happy with anything as long as you see something shinier. You are the perfect customer.

Quadrant gets weird scores on Nexus 4, no one really 100% sure why.
Try Antutu, with a bionic optimised rom (most roms have this now) you get 21000+ scores; Antutu had to be updated when Nexus 4 (with 4.2.1) came out because of weird low scores, quadrant was never updated.
Also get your full screen by removing the nav bar and using something else like pie controls from LMT.
edit.. also '3dmark' test will show you the adreno320 in the nexus4 blowing everything else away.

You're incredibly stupid to base your phone choice over some benchmarks.

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Quadrant gets weird scores on Nexus 4, no one really 100% sure why.
Try Antutu, with a bionic optimised rom (most roms have this now) you get 21000+ scores; Antutu had to be updated when Nexus 4 (with 4.2.1) came out because of weird low scores, quadrant was never updated.
Also get your full screen by removing the nav bar and using something else like pie controls from LMT.
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Yeah, I have seen some people posting Quadrant scores of like 7500+ on the Nexus 4
I'm still running stock everything (unrooted) - maybe I need to just root it and try some different ROMs, etc..
Pie Control looks sweet too, will check it out

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You're incredibly stupid to base your phone choice over some benchmarks.
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leave it out

Quadrant doesnt like 4.2. Antutu and 3Dmark are better guages of performance.

LooieENG said:
Anything you recommend me trying out on the N4?
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Hmm, not sure really. The Nexus 4 is pretty much that, a Nexus device with pure Android. I can see why it may (not saying that it does for you) be boring or not as flashy. But there's not much to try out for the Nexus 4. Everything is pretty basic and minimalistic, and that's why some go for the Nexus I suppose.
With the N4, you get a decent device that can run with the best of them. If you're into flashing ROMs, pretty much almost every ROM posted here will work with very very minimal bugs, if any bugs at that. Although the One S isn't a bad device at all, so it's really up to you. :good:

My Nexus 4 absolutely fly's.. it speeds through everything.
It's all well and good having a number on a screen but I owned a HTC ONE briefly and many apps on that lagged yet run fine on my Nexus 4?

Oh great another one of these threads. IB4L
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Can you please give your phone to me? I will pay you 50 $ because its so not good and you can go back to your wonderfull htc one s... :banghead:
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LooieENG said:
Yeah, I have seen some people posting Quadrant scores of like 7500+ on the Nexus 4
I'm still running stock everything (unrooted) - maybe I need to just root it and try some different ROMs, etc..
Pie Control looks sweet too, will check it out
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yea, if you are running your device at 1.8ghz+ and have other things optimized(custom rom/custom kernel), itll score high. at stock speeds and the stock rom/kernel it will never get close.
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HTC M9 disassembled

After one week?
Well it's been 1 week now, and boy it's been great so far. Day 1 - set up. Day 2 - unlocked - rooted. Day 3 - wishing for s-off and Xposed. I kept my M8 as my phone while I was preparing my M9. Days 4 thru 7 - putting it through some strenuous testing.
I have almost 400 apps installed with many running in the background all the time. The M9 breezes through all of my apps with little hesitation. My M8 did well with all of my apps, but the M9 just seems to pop through them a split second faster.
I'm not a fan of benchmark tests; I believe they are flawed. You run a test, and then run one 5 mins later, and get 2 completely different results. Plus the tests seem to favor certain brands over others, as well as different architectures. I prefer real world testing. How a device performs using it daily in a real life enviroment.
That being said I did do some benchmark tests. My M9 performed incredibly well with both AnTuTu and Velamo. With Velamo the Metal score was 2302, Multicore 1981, and Chrome Browser 3516. All very good scores. With AnTuTu my score was 54728. Also very good, but these are subjective. I am fairly new to the Android phone modding world, but I have been building custom computers for 20 years. Android phones are just a computer, and as it is with all computers performance will vary depending on applications installed, and many other elements including environmental conditions.
Getting to the quality of the M9. HTC has created another masterpiece. In the tradition of the M7 and M8 the build quality is superb. it's easy to tell that you're holding a well built piece of equipment.
It looks and feels very much like the M8: however, with some nice subtle differences. The power button is now on the side, but it should have been placed above the volume buttons in my opinion.
Well that's all for now. I have to get some sleep, but I will try to update this in another week.

jbfountain said:
Well it's been 1 week now, and boy it's been great so far. Day 1 - set up. Day 2 - unlocked - rooted. Day 3 - wishing for s-off and Xposed. I kept my M8 as my phone while I was preparing my M9. Days 4 thru 7 - putting it through some strenuous testing.
I have almost 400 apps installed with many running in the background all the time. The M9 breezes through all of my apps with little hesitation. My M8 did well with all of my apps, but the M9 just seems to pop through them a split second faster.
I'm not a fan of benchmark tests; I believe they are flawed. You run a test, and then run one 5 mins later, and get 2 completely different results. Plus the tests seem to favor certain brands over others, as well as different architectures. I prefer real world testing. How a device performs using it daily in a real life enviroment.
That being said I did do some benchmark tests. My M9 performed incredibly well with both AnTuTu and Velamo. With Velamo the Metal score was 2302, Multicore 1981, and Chrome Browser 3516. All very good scores. With AnTuTu my score was 54728. Also very good, but these are subjective. I am fairly new to the Android phone modding world, but I have been building custom computers for 20 years. Android phones are just a computer, and as it is with all computers performance will vary depending on applications installed, and many other elements including environmental conditions.
Getting to the quality of the M9. HTC has created another masterpiece. In the tradition of the M7 and M8 the build quality is superb. it's easy to tell that you're holding a well built piece of equipment.
It looks and feels very much like the M8: however, with some nice subtle differences. The power button is now on the side, but it should have been placed above the volume buttons in my opinion.
Well that's all for now. I have to get some sleep, but I will try to update this in another week.
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whats your stats on battery life?

PlatinumNick said:
whats your stats on battery life?
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I'm not sure how well it will be under normal use. It appears to be about the same as my M8 was while extreme power using. I'll know more about normal use battery life after I've calmed down a bit. Also I plan on tweaking the battery performance after I can figure out how to decompile the SystemUI apk. I'm getting about 8 hours the way I'm using it now.
Sent from Hal's HTC One M9

jbfountain said:
Also I plan on tweaking the battery performance after I can figure out how to decompile the SystemUI apk. I'm getting about 8 hours the way I'm using it now.
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Sad you have to tweak it though. HTC needs to optimize their battery out of the box. Why should we need to tweak it!
Note to HTC: It's a flagship people!

TonyStark said:
Sad you have to tweak it though. HTC needs to optimize their battery out of the box. Why should we need to tweak it!
Note to HTC: It's a flagship people!
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I agree, but I haven't found a high end smartphone yet that has the battery life that I want. Samsung, LG, Apple, HTC, none of them have performed well the way I use a phone.
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jbfountain said:
I agree, but I haven't found a high end smartphone yet that has the battery life that I want. Samsung, LG, Apple, HTC, none of them have performed well the way I use a phone.
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Agreed, so put a 3200 or 3500 battery as LG has done:silly:

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Agreed, so put a 3200 or 3500 battery as LG has done:silly:
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That would be the way to solve the problem, but I'm sure that most people use their phones in a way that the batteries the manufacturers put in them are sufficient. Look at Samsung reducing the size of their flagships battery. I don't think they will try to accommodate us power users anytime soon.
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What the OEM's need to do is make their phones where we can add a larger battery like they used to.
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PlatinumNick said:
whats your stats on battery life?
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After one day (13 hrs) of using my M9 like a normal person would use a cell phone I have 40% battery left.
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Thanks Cam

Don't forget it can be push to 2k resolution with a dpi of 577 display.. This phone is is definitely a high tier or highest in the market.

SynDevOut said:
Don't forget it can be push to 2k resolution with a dpi of 577 display.. This phone is is definitely a high tier or highest in the market.
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The camera on this phone takes awesome pictures. I don't understand why so many people say it's not. Maybe they just don't know how to use such a fine camera.
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jbfountain said:
The camera on this phone takes awesome pictures. I don't understand why so many people say it's not. Maybe they just don't know how to use such a fine camera.
Sent from this great HTC One M9 using XDA's mobile app.
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Problem is that if you have a bad launch then you stay in that area as far as the market is predicted.. The camera is superb now., But No one will give it a chance since the reviews of the m9 has past .

jbfountain said:
Well it's been 1 week now, and boy it's been great so far. Day 1 - set up. Day 2 - unlocked - rooted. Day 3 - wishing for s-off and Xposed.
sorry if I sound noob but I would like to know how did you unlock the bootloader?. I check htc dev website everyday but there has been no update at all.
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dxt6191 said:
jbfountain said:
Well it's been 1 week now, and boy it's been great so far. Day 1 - set up. Day 2 - unlocked - rooted. Day 3 - wishing for s-off and Xposed.
sorry if I sound noob but I would like to know how did you unlock the bootloader?. I check htc dev website everyday but there has been no update at all.
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There are many guides out there. I don't know why you couldn't find any, but here's a link to one. Follow everything closely. Make sure that you back up your phone via the HTC option in settings, because you will lose all of your data.
Good luck.
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=3087354
One M9 unlocking rooting guide+Return To Stock
I Truly Enjoy XDA-Developers.com with this Fabulous HTC One M9
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nice
its really cool device as like as before Htc device.