my quadrant results are in the 4k while my wife's S2 is in the same range (slightly higher) both without any overclocking
I was happy with 4k but now I wonder why my wife's s2 can achieve similar numbers with no overclocking.
My GN overclocked at 1.7 with performance gov hardly go over 5k
I think I read some quadrant are in the 7k
what's yours ?
guessing here but since the cpu/chipset are the same and the note is a little slower in benchmarks, I'm gonna say its the bigger screen resolution that it has to power, more pixels to push.
Bingo.
I got around 4200. Fully stock.
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I got 5800 quadrant score overclocked at 1.7
and scored 5005 at default 1.4 Ghz of frequency
I am happy with it...
Thanks guys for the input I feel better now
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Thanks guys for the input I feel better now
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well you just made me feel worse, im getting 3900
Quadrant score fluctuates a lot, so I don't know if it is reliable. I had about 5k and the next benchmark I had over 6k, so.... ofcourse, i had it set to 1.7ghz.
Usually around 4000.
1st 3800
2nd 4000
3rd 4200
4th 4600
5th 4700
6th 4600
Not sure which result is accurate even knowing that quadrant means nothing.
Quadrant is such a badly flawed benchmark, it can't even be used to compare the real world performance between two ROMs, let alone two different devices!
Regards,
Dave
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Quadrant is such a badly flawed benchmark, it can't even be used to compare the real world performance between two ROMs, let alone two different devices!
Regards,
Dave
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Your proof?
WE hear it all the time but nobody ever explains it.
1.4ghz Non-Overclocked, but massively tweaked and I get:
1st Score: 5900
2nd Score: 6200
3rd Score: 6200
4th Score: 6000
5th Score: 6300
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1.4ghz Non-Overclocked, but massively tweaked and I get:
1st Score: 5900
2nd Score: 6200
3rd Score: 6200
4th Score: 6000
5th Score: 6300
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wow that's impressive!
What kind of tweaks are you taking about?
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wow that's impressive!
What kind of tweaks are you taking about?
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Deleted pretty much everything you can to create a stable system
Adjusted the voltages based on my use
Added some build.prop tweaks
Tweaked the system UI for less RAM usage
No background widgets/No background activity
Double checked an triple checked all apps to make sure no mail process is in use
RAM Optmization tweaks
A bunch of other tweaks that I can't recall off the top of my head... haha
My Score ...
this is my score with quadrant !!
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WE hear it all the time but nobody ever explains it.
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My personal proof is my own personal experiences, but you only need to Google terms like "quadrant benchmark flawed" to find lots of examples.
I've owned a great number of Android devices, and seen widely varying Quadrant scores, yet not one of them has ever indicated the comparative real world experience between the devices.
For example, my Galaxy Tab 7" would only score around 800 (stock) whereas my Note gets over 3600. Is the Note 4.5 times faster in real world usage - not even close! It is faster, but I would subjectively place the performance at around 1.4x to 1.5x.
In a similar vein, when I changed my Galaxy Tab 7" to use EXT4 instead of RFS, but Quadrant score shot up to nearly 2000, but was it over twice as fast as stock? No, once again not even close! However, it still felt faster in real world usage than my HTC Sensation which gets around 2500 on Quadrant.
Quadrant basically performs a lot of individual benchmarks on a device and then amalgamates the result into a single number. Those individual benchmarks may well be of use, but the ultimate number is derives clearly "weights" each benchmark inconsistently/incorrectly to be of any real use when comparing real world performance.
Ultimately, what do these numbers mean if they can't give you an idea of comparative performance?
I find it quite amusing the number of people on this site who chase high Quadrant scores. It's like comparing an M-series BMW with a regular model which has a M-series bodykit and then saying how they perform based purely on looks.
Regards,
Dave
Phandroid (or AndroidCentral) had an article about the crapyness of Quadrant some time ago.
And actually, a lot of mobile review sites refuses to run Quadrant anymore.
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Ok, so I've experimented a LOT with different ROMs, different kernels, different overclocking etc and I just CANNOT seem to break the 48.333 barrier. I've achieved this several times on CM6 nightly with Wildmonks 1190 kernel.
Tonight, I took a few different ROMs (Rods, CM6 & NAZTech Plain) and modified them removing anything that could drain resources such as Maps, Messenger, Voice Search, etc etc. I re-signed them, flashed them AND flashed Wildmonks experimental 1267 kernel (maxed JUST below because 1267 is an insta-freeze) and I STILL only achieved 48.333 max.
Any tips?
I mean, I'm happy with my phones everyday performance, I'm more or less just trying to clock a linpack score in the high 49's for S&G's.
(The linpack record for N1 is like 50, showing an overclock kernel of 1300 but I highly doubt that as I've never heard of an N1 achieving even 1267 without lockup)
my highest score was 47.6 I think, and for about 2 weeks I kept running linpack days and nights to attempt to get higher score
But after second week I gave up, I could get around 47.6 and no higher.
Anyone?
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Nobody at all can tell me how to achieve better scores?
1.267 was achieved by 'the jesus phone'
Mine was 41.01 with Stock Nexus One (Froyo)
Now (with the new version of Linpack) I can't get more than 34.9xx
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1.267 was achieved by 'the jesus phone'
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The Jesus phone isn't even in the top ten for Nexus anymore. Check my signature. I hit 50.525 3x using Wildmonk 1267 kernel experimental. OC 1228 mhz stable. The highest for the N1 is 55 legit. Persian.
what is the ideal setup to achieve maximum mlops on the nexus?
1. Rom?
2. Kernel?
3. ?????
Why are benchmark scores so important?!
I find that just using my phone on a daily basis, being able to complete all the tasks I need, and do it with style & grace, is enough for me.
My Nexus still outperforms every single device amongst me and my friends.
I can do way more things, etc. etc. you all know this.
So why bother with trying to get the highest Linpack or Quadrant scores?!
BTW: I read a post the other night in which Cyanogen himself stated that cheating on benchmark scores was easy. so ... hhmm.
Because we can?
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How come I can only score around 36 on my Nexus One? I did full data wipe, cache and dalvik wipe. Then installed CM6 RC3 and wildmonks kernel 2.6.35_SVS-950mV_CFS_AXI_720p_1113MHz_081910. I've also installed SetCPU and overclocked to max of 1113. How can get this above 40?
Jesus' phone was fast, but not as fast as mine!
Love,
GOD
Linpack for Android Top 10
Results of the benchmark speed test for Android cell phones and devices. # Name MFLOPS ROM Notes
1 mtw4991 109.3 Nexus One 1113.6MHz google/passion/passion/mahimahi:2.2/FRF91/43546:user/release-keys
2 Zeno/ dallas 78.643 Nexus One 998.4MHz google/passion/passion/mahimahi:2.2/FRF91/43546:user/release-keys
3 Edub Chicago 53.194 PC36100 1190.4MHz sprint/htc_supersonic/supersonic/supersonic:2.2/FRF91/218634:user/release-keys
4 Saiy 52.759 Liberty 600.0MHz google/passion/passion/mahimahi:2.2/FRF91/43546:user/release-keys
5 MachString 49.212 ADR6300 1190.4MHz google/passion/passion/mahimahi:2.2/FRF91/43546:user/release-keys
6 br 48.333 ADR6300 google/passion/passion/mahimahi:2.2/FRF91/43546:user/release-keys
7 br 48.333 ADR6300 google/passion/passion/mahimahi:2.2/FRF91/43546:user/release-keys
8 Machstring 48.333 ADR6300 1190.4MHz google/passion/passion/mahimahi:2.2/FRF91/43546:user/release-keys
9 Edub Chicago 47.932 PC36100 1190.4MHz sprint/htc_supersonic/supersonic/supersonic:2.2/FRF91/218634:user/release-keys
10 MachString 47.906 ADR6300 1190.4MHz google/passion/passion/mahimahi:2.2/FRF91/43546:user/release-keys
Don't trust in the top devices list.
It's too easy to cheat
I can show you if you want it and put any MFlops you want.
So here is my advice : Use linpack to improve your device, but never compare your results to other, that make no sense.
I wish greenecomputing can solve this, maybe I should contact them.
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Don't trust in the top devices list.
It's too easy to cheat
I can show you if you want it and put any MFlops you want.
So here is my advice : Use linpack to improve your device, but never compare your results to other, that make no sense.
I wish greenecomputing can solve this, maybe I should contact them.
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Yeah, you might be right, however this popped up while driving right after flashing CM6+Wildmonk's 1113 kernel and shocked the heck outta me It's real, not faked....probably inaccurate, but real.
No worries, I didn't mean yours is fake
I just wanted to warn people about the reliability of the list and tell them to use Linpack as a personal device benchmark (ie after a ROM update) and not like a competition because some results may be totally fake.
well i was getting same scores with stock froyo, so just wondering why when overclocked with WM kernel and using CM6, shouldn't it be improved??
I personally usually get about 36 I would love to get 45
Before you make comments I already searches.
Ok...so the other night I'm all bragging about my phone with some friends and had the idea that we should all run benchmarks to see who came up with the best score.
An EVO 4G running cyanogen, Nexus One on 2.2, and a stock T-Mobile G2 all scored in the 30s. My Captivate on Phoenix 2.5 scored 14...wtf? Why are our scores so low?
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Before you make comments I already searches.
Ok...so the other night I'm all bragging about my phone with some friends and had the idea that we should all run benchmarks to see who came up with the best score.
An EVO 4G running cyanogen, Nexus One on 2.2, and a stock T-Mobile G2 all scored in the 30s. My Captivate on Phoenix 2.5 scored 14...wtf? Why are our scores so low?
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These benchmark tools are not optimized for our chipset. The score in the end doesn't matter except for each person to see if they have any increases. When comparing with other phones the true test would be speed of the phone which you would probably see the Captivate would perform very well.
Agreed about benchmarking...but if you need to feel better about it test them with neocore or nenamark, the graphics cripple the evo.
I have had both phones and gps aside, the sgs is far better imo.
Linpack performs better on Scorpion CPU's (Snapdragon) due to full JIT optimization. It is not a measure of actual performance.
Tell your friends exactly what GGX said, word for word.
Then have them test just as newter said.
Then tell them to shut up.
Sent from under your bed.
Will do. Thanks guys.
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Hey guys,
Posted under general questions and to my surprise not one reply in a week. So, I'm curious to know somethings about overclocking these tablets. What settings are you using? Have you had any issues with overheating and shutting down?What settings are recommended for web browsing, gaming etc? Let's talk linpack and benchmark testing. Where do you rank and how did you get there? Let's talk SetCPU benchmark scores, what kind of results can you squeeze out out of your device? How does someone pull off 41916.7 MFLOPS?! (Nexus) I'll start......
GT-7310 Running 3.2 / Motley Kernal / SetCPU
SetCPU Scores
Long Bench @ 178ms / Native @ 621.5ms
Linpack Scores
Single thread @ 42.4 MFLOPS / Multi thread @ 83.2 MFLOPS
Obtained running 1504MHz max / 216MHz min
Note: I have overheated and shutdown at 1504 web browsing. At 1400MHz I have had no issues. I see some scores are through the roof. I'm not to familiar with Overclocking and just would like to hear what you guys have to say. Thanks in advance. I may of posted this in the wrong area and I apologize. I would like this to be a thread on the topic rather than a Q & A.
Well I personally run my tab @1200Mhz with -25mV on the 1000&1200 steps, but anyhow, due to the interactive governor the most used setps are 216, 456 and 1200. I don't undervolt the lower test for stability reasons as I mostly work on the tablet so I don't want to test yet how low uV can go, don't have the time to test it right now. (Even though I'm pretty sure -25mV even on lower steps is still largely stable)
As for the set CPU test I tried them out on 1504Mhz: 150 and 595ms. I once pushed the tab to 1600Mhz but it ended up in an immediate freeze so I will skip on trying that again.
I don't have linpack but tried running GLBench 2.1 Egypt and the score was pretty embarrasing
Thanks for sharing. Since my post I have flashed aokp-34 galaxiansoup with v-3 of the Motley Kernal. Running 1400 on 216 no undervolting and am seeing a tiny increase in numbers. I'm still stumped on these linpack scores. This thing runs great. No complaints whatsoever. Anyone want to chime in on the best bench testing app or what the stock numbers on these 7310's are?
everyone will tell you that benchmark scores aren't very representative!
run the test 5 times and each time you will get a slightly different score.
i don't really care about benchmarking, as long as i feel that my tab runs smooth (which i think it does) im pretty happy. im normally at 1,4ghz and everything is smooth and stable!
Thanks for sharing. I couldn't agree more. My tab runs great at the same speed settings as yours. I just don't understand the numbers and how certain device's have like 100 times my mflops......I'm a numbers guy by nature, I like to see it on paper....but I am content with my device. Just always looking to make it cleaner and faster.....you know the addiction I'm sure.
Are you happy with this kernel? I found it stuttering and laggy...
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Are you happy with this kernel? I found it stuttering and laggy...
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Yes, I've not ran into any issues. Totally impressed and content with v3 motley. If there is a better kernel out there I'd love to hear about. I have yet to look, no need.
Been running a few custom profiles via Setcpu peaking @1.5GHz on B37 for a few weeks now. Other than a force close or two and an occasional browser freeze, which is normal with these roms, this thing is running pretty snappy. Gotta watch the temp though.
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I sure hope that you've set up your profiles so that your tab overclocks to 1.5Ghz only occasionally, it's a thing that you HW can handle it, but will it on the long term?
Also, I regret that you can't overclock the bus frequency to get an overall performance boost (the GPU could really use it..) as on the Galaxy S
Yeah, I'm only pushing 1.5 on occasion, per profile. I normally run 1.4 all day everyday for the last 3 months with heavy use and no issues. Just gotta watch the temp. I've had mine to 113 degrees which kinda scared me.
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Does benchmarks and quadrant scores really that important?
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Does benchmarks and quadrant scores really that important?
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Ultimately - I think not?
If the phone feels quick, and it runs your programes then i would not worry about benchmarking... But if it feels slow and sluggish, then i would try out one of the many benchmarking programes out there, and see if there truely is a problem...
I have tryed it a cauple of times and found that my note ran perfectly well, and that it was I whos was mistaken..
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Does benchmarks and quadrant scores really that important?
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They are good tools to tweak your phone as long as you know what look for but of course one single benchmsrk cannot tell the whole story so I use a combination of benchmarks and applications that i am familiar with when evaluating rom/kernels or overclocking settings.
Sent from the Mighty Note International!
It surely does make no difference if you score high or low. What matters is that you should be satisfied with ur phones performance.
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Does benchmarks and quadrant scores really that important?
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what i really noticed is that the memory and I/O scores are kernel specific and the more scores you have the more fast the operations on ur phone becomes..
i personaly have achieved highest scores of I/O using notecore /hydracore
This one is really not important. Haha.
Leave this app eversince I bought my notes.
As long as smooth, good battery life, what else u need?
U win nothing even if ur benchmark higher from others.
Sent from N8000, from the corner of this rounded earth.
My buddy got a Droid DNA the other day. I immediately snatched it up to check it out. What a screen!
Anyway...ran a couple benchmarks and was AMAZED!
Quadrant = 8085
BenchmarkPi = ~280
0.0
Our phone's guts are the same! My Nexus 4 is even overclocked and doesn't come CLOSE...
Just out of curiosity...how is it that my rooted, ROM'd, overclocked Nexus gets its teeth kicked in by a stock Droid DNA?
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My buddy got a Droid DNA the other day. I immediately snatched it up to check it out. What a screen!
Anyway...ran a couple benchmarks and was AMAZED!
Quadrant = 8085
BenchmarkPi = ~280
0.0
Our phone's guts are the same! My Nexus 4 is even overclocked and doesn't come CLOSE...
Just out of curiosity...how is it that my rooted, ROM'd, overclocked Nexus gets its teeth kicked in by a stock Droid DNA?
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Does it really matter? I don't know about your n4 but mine has zero lag and handles every app and game I have thrown at it with ease. Benchmark scores mean nothing compared to actual use and performance. Dont worry about scores and enjoy your 4.2.2 phone.
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That was quick. Yes, I love my phone, yes it runs extremely well, yes benchmarks aren't perfect.
Now that we got that out of the way...
Wrong section, also the Droid DNA screen is incredibly saturated screen..way more then the N4 thats for sure.
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That was quick. Yes, I love my phone, yes it runs extremely well, yes benchmarks aren't perfect.
Now that we got that out of the way...
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I mean no disrespect, I just don't understand all the infatuation with benchmark scores. If a phone has zero lag and handles everything one could ask beautifully then why does it matter if it scores low?
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For god's sake, please stop using stupid Quadrant, makes no sense at all.
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My buddy got a Droid DNA the other day. I immediately snatched it up to check it out. What a screen!
Anyway...ran a couple benchmarks and was AMAZED!
Quadrant = 8085
BenchmarkPi = ~280
0.0
Our phone's guts are the same! My Nexus 4 is even overclocked and doesn't come CLOSE...
Just out of curiosity...how is it that my rooted, ROM'd, overclocked Nexus gets its teeth kicked in by a stock Droid DNA?
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quadrant runs bad on n4, no one seems to know why (prob 4.2.2 reason, 4.1.x seems ok). dunno about pi test.
try antutu, it's recently updated and not built for over year old chipsets. you will see your n4 runs fine
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My buddy got a Droid DNA the other day. I immediately snatched it up to check it out. What a screen!
Anyway...ran a couple benchmarks and was AMAZED!
Quadrant = 8085
BenchmarkPi = ~280
0.0
Our phone's guts are the same! My Nexus 4 is even overclocked and doesn't come CLOSE...
Just out of curiosity...how is it that my rooted, ROM'd, overclocked Nexus gets its teeth kicked in by a stock Droid DNA?
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quadrant hasnt been updated for years. using quadrant is like using a car from 60's and complaining the heater doesn't heat fast. use antutu and see what you get on both phones.
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I mean no disrespect, I just don't understand all the infatuation with benchmark scores.
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You don't need to understand; OP wasn't directing his post at anyone in particular. Just like MPG, 0-30/60/1/4 mile times, HP, and torque ratings in car reviews help people compare different car models, benchmarks in mobile devices help people make similar comparisons. That's why noted review sites like GSMArena and Anandtech devote 1/3 of their 10+ page reviews to performance benchmarking. I totally agree that if a device's performance meets someone's needs that’s more important than benchmarks. But I also feel performance benchmarks, just like audio, display brightness/contrast, and camera tests serve a legitimate purpose. I've found people that don't like benchmarks are usually device owners on the wrong side of them. Clearly HTC did a better job of optimizing their s/w for S4 Pro than either Google or LG did which, to OP's point, is why the DNA benchmarks so much better. In another thread someone said individual user s/w influences benchmarks. Most of them are low-level tests or use emulators (Sunspider) so what's running (or not) on the device won't influence the result. It is what it is.
Here are some comments from Anandtech talking about the Optimus G's less than steller benchmark performance. It's not due to S4 Pro but it doesn't really matter because the net result is what people experience using the device. Great performance which benchmarks measure takes a combination of s/w and h/w as shown by the DNA comparison OP's made.
Sunspider is lightly threaded and thus doesn't see huge scaling going to four cores. In fact, in this case we're not seeing any real improvement over the dual-core Krait based devices from HTC. It's unclear how much of the Optimus G's performance is due to LG's browser/software stack vs. the underlying hardware.
BrowserMark doesn't look great and the Optimus G's performance is almost certainly due to LG's own browser code. Qualcomm's reference software stack can provide great performance, but it's up to the individual OEM to take advantage of it.
ooooh it has big numbers ...
HTC will always be laggy running sense!!!
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For god's sake, please stop using stupid Quadrant, makes no sense at all.
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+1
mentioning quadrant should be an automatic beating with the ban-stick
Please use the Nexus 4 vs. Any other phone thread that is a sticky
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