Low linpack scores - Captivate Q&A, Help & Troubleshooting

Before you make comments I already searches.
Ok...so the other night I'm all bragging about my phone with some friends and had the idea that we should all run benchmarks to see who came up with the best score.
An EVO 4G running cyanogen, Nexus One on 2.2, and a stock T-Mobile G2 all scored in the 30s. My Captivate on Phoenix 2.5 scored 14...wtf? Why are our scores so low?
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nooomoto said:
Before you make comments I already searches.
Ok...so the other night I'm all bragging about my phone with some friends and had the idea that we should all run benchmarks to see who came up with the best score.
An EVO 4G running cyanogen, Nexus One on 2.2, and a stock T-Mobile G2 all scored in the 30s. My Captivate on Phoenix 2.5 scored 14...wtf? Why are our scores so low?
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These benchmark tools are not optimized for our chipset. The score in the end doesn't matter except for each person to see if they have any increases. When comparing with other phones the true test would be speed of the phone which you would probably see the Captivate would perform very well.

Agreed about benchmarking...but if you need to feel better about it test them with neocore or nenamark, the graphics cripple the evo.
I have had both phones and gps aside, the sgs is far better imo.

Linpack performs better on Scorpion CPU's (Snapdragon) due to full JIT optimization. It is not a measure of actual performance.

Tell your friends exactly what GGX said, word for word.
Then have them test just as newter said.
Then tell them to shut up.
Sent from under your bed.

Will do. Thanks guys.
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Is it weird to have 1774 at Quadrant?

Hello all,
I'm quite shocked when testing quadrant and I got 1774 score. Usually I only got around 1400-1500.
Then I tried that time, I had around 1400 for the first time, and I repeat the test directly and get 1774 score.
I repeat the method the next day and get also a huge difference between the first try and the second try.
anyone can explain this??
I'm running CM6 RC2
1113MHz monks kernel
pretty nice score, possibly some other proceses running in the background, i got a 1200+ score then killed a bunch of stuff running and then got a 1500 score
I usually hit 1700-ish.
disgustip8ted said:
pretty nice score, possibly some other proceses running in the background, i got a 1200+ score then killed a bunch of stuff running and then got a 1500 score
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try again directly after you got 1500 score. I got 1700 for the second try
samsung galaxy s
I did the benchmark before applying the voodoo lagfix on my SGS, i was the third on the list just after moto droid x, after the lagfix and reboot, i'm now 1469 and on top of all the device, the original SGS score is way below...
the point is, how this thing work ? is this reliable ? i mean what's the point of the app finally ?
I honestly think that the score doesn't matter. Isn't the most important thing most aim for is speed and stability? If your phone feels fast then you shouldn't care for the score.
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1774marks? no it's not strange.
Here is a screenshot i have made about month ago on original-chinese-odexed Miui [email protected] without any hacks, it was fast as lighting (Or diarrhea)
Miui12.31 not so fast

[Q] Mflops?

I had a Samsung Moment and most of the rom descriptions included the Mflop scores. I sold it and got a Hero and I've noticed pretty much no one lists or talks about Mflop scores? Is there a reason for this, is it not important since the Hero is so slow anyways?
The fastest score I've seen was with the new AospMod rom 5.6. Do any of the 2.1 roms compare?
reckoner13 said:
I had a Samsung Moment and most of the rom descriptions included the Mflop scores. I sold it and got a Hero and I've noticed pretty much no one lists or talks about Mflop scores? Is there a reason for this, is it not important since the Hero is so slow anyways?
The fastest score I've seen was with the new AospMod rom 5.6. Do any of the 2.1 roms compare?
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I think it's because no one here really cares about it. Mostly because it doesn't matter. Most of us on the hero boards are more concerned with important stuff like stability, and coming from a moment and calling the hero slow is a case of the pot calling the kettle black. ;-)
reckoner13 said:
I had a Samsung Moment and most of the rom descriptions included the Mflop scores. I sold it and got a Hero and I've noticed pretty much no one lists or talks about Mflop scores? Is there a reason for this, is it not important since the Hero is so slow anyways?
The fastest score I've seen was with the new AospMod rom 5.6. Do any of the 2.1 roms compare?
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MFlops is an arbitrary cpu scoring system much like Bogomips for Linux and you see it posted on almost every roms OP. The problem is that its affected by tons of stuff and just because aospbot posts a 5.6 doesn't mean thats what you'll get, you might be running a ton of widgets and facebook sync and other stuff.
CM6 also got a 5.6 or so and I've seen 2.1 sense rom also post a high scores like this. You should use it yourself and determine what is a good score on your phone under normal conditions and then use that as a bases for scoring other roms on YOUR phone.
Mflops are usually calculated by how many Floating Point operations it can calculate per second (usually pi to some exponent), while Mips is how many Fixed point operations it can calculate a second.
So pretty much ignore it unless your running it on your phone.
user7618 said:
I think it's because no one here really cares about it. Mostly because it doesn't matter. Most of us on the hero boards are more concerned with important stuff like stability, and coming from a moment and calling the hero slow is a case of the pot calling the kettle black. ;-)
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Come on the moment has an 800mhz processor that can be overclocked and the same amount of RAM as the Hero (288). It's faster, but that doesn't mean it's better. I prefer the Hero.
reckoner13 said:
I had a Samsung Moment and most of the rom descriptions included the Mflop scores. I sold it and got a Hero and I've noticed pretty much no one lists or talks about Mflop scores? Is there a reason for this, is it not important since the Hero is so slow anyways?
The fastest score I've seen was with the new AospMod rom 5.6. Do any of the 2.1 roms compare?
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Mflops is still used, but it is no longer a primary measure of a phone's capabilities. Most people use Quadrant to determine a phone's performance, as that incorporates 2D and 3D graphic performance in addition to calculations. But I've heard people use BenchmarkPi, CPU Benchmark, etc. It all is really quite irrelevant if your phone is fast enough and performs well enough for you; posting scores of any type is really just a digital pissing contest.

[FROYO]Quadrant and Linpack scores

Hello guys, I've just benched my Captivate after installing the leaked Froyo rom and I'm quite disappointed to say the least....
This has really been beaten to death. Quadrant and Linpack are geared towards Snapdragon.
ntdb said:
This has really been beaten to death. Quadrant and Linpack are geared towards Snapdragon.
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I agree, and in the end who cares?
If my phone runs fast, runs all apps fast, and does everything i want it to do; then i really don't care what the benchmark says.
The Droid X is only faster in Quadrant because it doesn't use Samsung's crappy RFS filesystem, but that's easy for us to fix with lagfixes. The Nexus is only faster because the JIT is optimized specifically for Snapdragon processors and these benchmark programs favor Snapdragon processors as well. With a lag fix our phones are the fastest thing out there. Don't get too caught up in synthetic benchmarks.
dont worry about numbers as much as real world performance.. turn on flash and go browse pages.. proof is in the pudddin!
I agree it is all about real world use. Not to mention if I am not wrong that it has already been stated that Quad doesnt give 100% accurate results. Thread closed

[Q] Best antutu scores on roms?

Hi, i went down quite a lot of pages and did not find any antutu score tests on galaxy s.
I was just wondering whats the best ones in what rom's and what kernels. I tried to google i9000 antutu best scores but seems there was not really that many hits and best scores i found was like 4k what sound quite a lot but not sure how legit those are when there was no pics.
I mean my friend got a galaxy note and it get a bit over 7k point and then reading more the damn old sucker galaxy s2 best with pic proof is like 8k.
Was just wondering how my fine old faithful galaxy s can do. I got a decent gingerbread rom and i get a bit over 3k without OC. Can't remember how much more i got with ICS OC'd to 1,4ghz. it was over 3k too tough but not remembering how much above.
Would be nice if you can post your roms that score over 3k and what roms + kernels you are using and how much OC you done. I mean the i9000 is not the fastest phone by far at this point but would be intressed to see if people got how high antutu scores.
Nowadays benchmark doesnt mean anything. There's many ways to cheat, and even if those score were honest it doesn't matter much. What does matter is real life performance
Oh antutu score can be fixed too these days? I mean i now the quadrant score has been always a bit question mark and i heard lots of cheating in it. Well i was just wondering the honest score. I'm trying to find a decent fast rom and the better score in benchmarks the less processor power it uses on stuff and that means a bit better battery life too.. well not always.
I'm just trying to get all out of my sgs before sgs3 comes out.. i must say i just love t his phone.. when i had a fast rom where it worked stable at 1.4ghz it was as fast as iphone 4s in same internet pages on stock browser.
But if people could post the LEGIT non cheated scores it would be better than the cheating ones lol
an0nym0us_ said:
Nowadays benchmark doesnt mean anything. There's many ways to cheat, and even if those score were honest it doesn't matter much. What does matter is real life performance
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+1. SGS with Froyo and EXT2 lagfix got a much higher score in Quadrant, but with ICS the experience is much better.
So the real question is what ROMs have given the best real life performance for you?
For me, it's 3827( on Antutu ) ;D with TiramiSlim RC2.0

Apples to apples

My buddy got a Droid DNA the other day. I immediately snatched it up to check it out. What a screen!
Anyway...ran a couple benchmarks and was AMAZED!
Quadrant = 8085
BenchmarkPi = ~280
0.0
Our phone's guts are the same! My Nexus 4 is even overclocked and doesn't come CLOSE...
Just out of curiosity...how is it that my rooted, ROM'd, overclocked Nexus gets its teeth kicked in by a stock Droid DNA?
rmp5s said:
My buddy got a Droid DNA the other day. I immediately snatched it up to check it out. What a screen!
Anyway...ran a couple benchmarks and was AMAZED!
Quadrant = 8085
BenchmarkPi = ~280
0.0
Our phone's guts are the same! My Nexus 4 is even overclocked and doesn't come CLOSE...
Just out of curiosity...how is it that my rooted, ROM'd, overclocked Nexus gets its teeth kicked in by a stock Droid DNA?
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Does it really matter? I don't know about your n4 but mine has zero lag and handles every app and game I have thrown at it with ease. Benchmark scores mean nothing compared to actual use and performance. Dont worry about scores and enjoy your 4.2.2 phone.
Sent from my Nexus 4 using xda premium
That was quick. Yes, I love my phone, yes it runs extremely well, yes benchmarks aren't perfect.
Now that we got that out of the way...
Wrong section, also the Droid DNA screen is incredibly saturated screen..way more then the N4 thats for sure.
rmp5s said:
That was quick. Yes, I love my phone, yes it runs extremely well, yes benchmarks aren't perfect.
Now that we got that out of the way...
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I mean no disrespect, I just don't understand all the infatuation with benchmark scores. If a phone has zero lag and handles everything one could ask beautifully then why does it matter if it scores low?
Sent from my Nexus 4 using xda premium
For god's sake, please stop using stupid Quadrant, makes no sense at all.
rmp5s said:
My buddy got a Droid DNA the other day. I immediately snatched it up to check it out. What a screen!
Anyway...ran a couple benchmarks and was AMAZED!
Quadrant = 8085
BenchmarkPi = ~280
0.0
Our phone's guts are the same! My Nexus 4 is even overclocked and doesn't come CLOSE...
Just out of curiosity...how is it that my rooted, ROM'd, overclocked Nexus gets its teeth kicked in by a stock Droid DNA?
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quadrant runs bad on n4, no one seems to know why (prob 4.2.2 reason, 4.1.x seems ok). dunno about pi test.
try antutu, it's recently updated and not built for over year old chipsets. you will see your n4 runs fine
rmp5s said:
My buddy got a Droid DNA the other day. I immediately snatched it up to check it out. What a screen!
Anyway...ran a couple benchmarks and was AMAZED!
Quadrant = 8085
BenchmarkPi = ~280
0.0
Our phone's guts are the same! My Nexus 4 is even overclocked and doesn't come CLOSE...
Just out of curiosity...how is it that my rooted, ROM'd, overclocked Nexus gets its teeth kicked in by a stock Droid DNA?
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quadrant hasnt been updated for years. using quadrant is like using a car from 60's and complaining the heater doesn't heat fast. use antutu and see what you get on both phones.
Exodian said:
I mean no disrespect, I just don't understand all the infatuation with benchmark scores.
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You don't need to understand; OP wasn't directing his post at anyone in particular. Just like MPG, 0-30/60/1/4 mile times, HP, and torque ratings in car reviews help people compare different car models, benchmarks in mobile devices help people make similar comparisons. That's why noted review sites like GSMArena and Anandtech devote 1/3 of their 10+ page reviews to performance benchmarking. I totally agree that if a device's performance meets someone's needs that’s more important than benchmarks. But I also feel performance benchmarks, just like audio, display brightness/contrast, and camera tests serve a legitimate purpose. I've found people that don't like benchmarks are usually device owners on the wrong side of them. Clearly HTC did a better job of optimizing their s/w for S4 Pro than either Google or LG did which, to OP's point, is why the DNA benchmarks so much better. In another thread someone said individual user s/w influences benchmarks. Most of them are low-level tests or use emulators (Sunspider) so what's running (or not) on the device won't influence the result. It is what it is.
Here are some comments from Anandtech talking about the Optimus G's less than steller benchmark performance. It's not due to S4 Pro but it doesn't really matter because the net result is what people experience using the device. Great performance which benchmarks measure takes a combination of s/w and h/w as shown by the DNA comparison OP's made.
Sunspider is lightly threaded and thus doesn't see huge scaling going to four cores. In fact, in this case we're not seeing any real improvement over the dual-core Krait based devices from HTC. It's unclear how much of the Optimus G's performance is due to LG's browser/software stack vs. the underlying hardware.
BrowserMark doesn't look great and the Optimus G's performance is almost certainly due to LG's own browser code. Qualcomm's reference software stack can provide great performance, but it's up to the individual OEM to take advantage of it.​
ooooh it has big numbers ...
HTC will always be laggy running sense!!!
cryshop said:
For god's sake, please stop using stupid Quadrant, makes no sense at all.
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+1
mentioning quadrant should be an automatic beating with the ban-stick
Please use the Nexus 4 vs. Any other phone thread that is a sticky
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