So a couple years ago I had a Kaiser (AT&T Tilt version) go for a swim in fresh water, I was pretty quick about taking the battery out and then I let it dry for 3 days before trying to turn it back on. Now a few years later I have since replaced that Kaiser with a new Kaiser and then an amazing HD2 that we all know and love. I have been tinkering around with the water damaged kaiser for a while now trying to resurrect it and here is my question, I know of all these tricks people say work ( rice, Isopropal alcohol, ect) but this is besides the fact that the phone hasn't been attempted to turn on in over a year, I'm sure it's dry.
I can successfully boot into HSPL any day of the week, and I also successfully flashed the stock AT&T WWE rom back to the phone, but it still gets stuck on the first screen (The white AT&T branded screen) so the real question is, does anyone have any more ideas to try to get the phone to boot, Is it possible some specific component or micro-controller is fried? I would say it's not totally dead since I can get into the HSPL boot loader and flash the Stock rom, however I tried a few WP 6.1 and 6.5 roms and they get an error code when I attempt to flash. I beleive it was error code 274?
Any help or suggestions would be hreatly appreciated, thanks.
chamele0n said:
So a couple years ago I had a Kaiser (AT&T Tilt version) go for a swim in fresh water, I was pretty quick about taking the battery out and then I let it dry for 3 days before trying to turn it back on. Now a few years later I have since replaced that Kaiser with a new Kaiser and then an amazing HD2 that we all know and love. I have been tinkering around with the water damaged kaiser for a while now trying to resurrect it and here is my question, I know of all these tricks people say work ( rice, Isopropal alcohol, ect) but this is besides the fact that the phone hasn't been attempted to turn on in over a year, I'm sure it's dry.
I can successfully boot into HSPL any day of the week, and I also successfully flashed the stock AT&T WWE rom back to the phone, but it still gets stuck on the first screen (The white AT&T branded screen) so the real question is, does anyone have any more ideas to try to get the phone to boot, Is it possible some specific component or micro-controller is fried? I would say it's not totally dead since I can get into the HSPL boot loader and flash the Stock rom, however I tried a few WP 6.1 and 6.5 roms and they get an error code when I attempt to flash. I beleive it was error code 274?
Any help or suggestions would be greatly appreciated, thanks.
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Well, I'm no expert because I got a TyTn but what I can say is that you can check out the wiki fir unbricking options. And also remember that some moisture can still get trapped even after a year. Maybe leaving it under the sun will help evaporate all the water? Anyway, good luck fixing it!
My uncle had one, but he dropped it and the metal but broke; so it became a hazard because of the sharpness. Then he gave it to the insurance company and got an iPhone!
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Hi, i posted in the Mr.Clean g4 rom thread about what happened to me, but i really want to try my best in seeing if there is a possible fix for this phone. I'm sorry if i'm being annoying, but i am going to try everything in my power to get this phone to work, cause i wasn't able to replace it, and it was so expensive! AND I LOVE IT DEATHHHHHHH
Allright, i have a T-Mobile USA MDA, now i'm not sure if it has a g3 or g4 chip, that is my mistake. I went ahead and installed the g4 version of mr clean. It Installed, loaded up and i calibrated my screen and everything was going great. Then it started installing the customizations, and it turned off, forever. It won't turn on, no bootloader, no nothing. I had a 60% charge on the battery when this started, and this shouldn't be the problem as it loaded up fine, and it was charging while the customizations where loading.
So now i'm left with a plastic brick. Thank you for any kind of help whatsoever.
again, sorry to be asking for this, but i'm so desperate at this point.
I am a newby but am a reader of about 7 months.
I too have exactly the same issue on three devices. I tried one and it went brickward bound. Thought it was a dodgy device so tried another..........exactly the same again. Then my very patient and understanding boss walked in and said that he tried his last night and......well.....now I have three bricks on my desk. :? The only diference to the post before me is that mine are T-Mobile UK Wizards.
Any thoughts would be most welcome.
Mine went exactly the same way R.I.P
What exactly happens in the customization? I thought it was just installing the odd program etc?
Not dead yet
:lol: :lol: :lol: :lol: You probably had the G4 chipset you can always take the phone for replacement. Just tell them it wasn't working when you got it home. Tell them it won't power on
Same issue with me here, Mine just stopped working too... Now I brought it back to the Tmobile store, and I have 2 wait for 2 weeks..
Except. I did not have an non Tmobile Rom on it..
f18viper said:
Hi, i posted in the Mr.Clean g4 rom thread about what happened to me, but i really want to try my best in seeing if there is a possible fix for this phone. I'm sorry if i'm being annoying, but i am going to try everything in my power to get this phone to work, cause i wasn't able to replace it, and it was so expensive! AND I LOVE IT DEATHHHHHHH
Allright, i have a T-Mobile USA MDA, now i'm not sure if it has a g3 or g4 chip, that is my mistake. I went ahead and installed the g4 version of mr clean. It Installed, loaded up and i calibrated my screen and everything was going great. Then it started installing the customizations, and it turned off, forever. It won't turn on, no bootloader, no nothing. I had a 60% charge on the battery when this started, and this shouldn't be the problem as it loaded up fine, and it was charging while the customizations where loading.
So now i'm left with a plastic brick. Thank you for any kind of help whatsoever.
again, sorry to be asking for this, but i'm so desperate at this point.
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exactly the same here, mda vario is dead too. looking for solutions.
JTAG flashing?
I wonder if anyone has information on how to JTAG flash a Wizard G4, or would be this just be at HTC's factories/repair depots?
(JTAG flashing is attaching clips to certain chip pinouts and flashing it using a dedicated device that is for this purpose.)
Bought it 5 days ago. When the battery went dead last night, I plugged it in to charge and switched it on .It did not go past the Windows Mobile splash screen. I took the battery out as well as the sim and memory cards, to no avail. I left it plugged in overnight and got the battery fully charged (battery indicator light is now green) and the network status green light would (at least sometimes) start flashing on boot, even though the phone would not completely boot up. I CAN get it into bootloader. What I want to know is, should I go to www.htc.com and download and install an official ROM from there, or should I leave all that alone and take it back to where I got it from before I screw it up? Additionally, the phone shows up as a Dopod D810 when registered on www.htc.com, and the radio and ROM versions appear to be lower/older than what came pre-installed in the phone. Advice anyone? I am fairly new and in the process of learning all this wonderful stuff you guys have to teach.
it seems like its already been fiddled with (correct me if i'm wrong people), i would visit the HTC club site and if you can upgrade using your serial number do that, as if you look in the trinity WIKI in "Trinity" forum (Not Trinity 6 forum, here) it states there is a different way to flash the p3600i as its setup different than the standard p3600.
This is exactly what happened to my phone when the battery died (after installing FInixNOver) Is there a problem with these ROMS, or something that happens when the phone dies!... My phone was also 'sticking/frozen/crashed' on the splash screen.
I just reflashed it with a new ROM after fully charging it again.
Thanks VISTAR. And WIZZKID - your phone works perfectly now after the flashing? And do you think it's because of the stuff you installed? BTW my ROM was an official HTC ROM. I actually got called out early this morning to do a flight to the island where I bought the phone (I am a commercial pilot flying Caribbean routes) and I packed it's backside back in the box and sent it to be exchanged. I don't have the new one yet, but I am beginning to wonder if I shouldn't try something else because of this problem of sticking at the splash screen - however I only have a choice of the Kaiser and the S730 at the moment. The P3600/P3600i is among my favourite WM phones of all times, but I don't wanna have to go thru this again. What do you guys think? By the way - I only just realized that I started this post in the wrong section, so please forgive me anyone whom is not pleased by that.
iF YOU HAVE THE CHANCE OF A KAISER I WOULD GO WITH THAT, ITS THE BEST OUT THERE AT THE MOMENT..
Yeah I know but I just don't like it the way I like the P3600i and some of the others. Besides I prefer no sliding hardware keyboard. Moving parts is an issue for me as I am very fussy about wear and tear/looseness. Thanks again for your help. I am gonna move over to WIZZKID's thread on this P3600/P3600i non-starting issue since I am in the wrong section of the forum. Thanks to all those who assisted...
Got a second P3600i and it did the same thing - a hard reset fixed the problem.
I live in Australia, and have a Telstra branded Diamond, although it is unlocked ( i use Optus Sim card) anyways i was hoping to install unbranded cooked rom found here:
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=422417
I didn't know I needed to install HardSPL, i tried but it failed so i continued on (i know I'm retarded) so i tried using the Diamond Unlocker.
I hit Next, Next, Next until it got to progress bar it stayed on 0% then jumped to 100% and said that my device wasn't compatible or something like that, at that point the image on the diamond faded to black screen. I This happened when i tried Hardspl but i just hit reset and it turned back on alright.....this time it didn't, it doesn't react to the power button at all, iv tried hitting the reset button, booting into boot loader even though I'm pretty sure it doesn't have one, and tried MTTY which I'm pretty sure it pointless because my diamond doesn't turn on.
Please share any knowledge or ideas you have on how i can fix my Diamond, or where i can send it to be repaired (I have no warranty with Telstra by the way)
Is my diamond bricked for life?
EDIT: In the hope that my Diamond will return to life by holding the power button, i have noticed i can still feel the vibration it usually makes when turning it on although NO DISPLAY
chaos-zero said:
I live in Australia, and have a Telstra branded Diamond, although it is unlocked ( i use Optus Sim card) anyways i was hoping to install unbranded cooked rom found here:
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=422417
I didn't know I needed to install HardSPL, i tried but it failed so i continued on (i know I'm retarded) so i tried using the Diamond Unlocker.
I hit Next, Next, Next until it got to progress bar it stayed on 0% then jumped to 100% and said that my device wasn't compatible or something like that, at that point the image on the diamond faded to black screen. I This happened when i tried Hardspl but i just hit reset and it turned back on alright.....this time it didn't, it doesn't react to the power button at all, iv tried hitting the reset button, booting into boot loader even though I'm pretty sure it doesn't have one, and tried MTTY which I'm pretty sure it pointless because my diamond doesn't turn on.
Please share any knowledge or ideas you have on how i can fix my Diamond, or where i can send it to be repaired (I have no warranty with Telstra by the way)
Is my diamond bricked for life?
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Why you don't search the repair centre address from the HTC Australia pages?
I found this: http://www.htc.com/au/supportcontent.aspx?id=22104
Fonebiz Repair Centre
Address: 370 Whitehorse Road,
Nunawading,
VIC 3131
Tel: +613 98777688 (Australia Wide & International)
Fax: +613 98787988 (Australia Wide & International)
Business Hours: Monday to Friday 9am - 5:30pm (Australian EST)
Weekend and Public Holiday – Closed
Please ensure that you bring your Proof of Purchase and
all fault related accessories when you come into Fonebiz.
Thats the only problem, i have already thought of this, although i don't have proof of purchase anymore, can i still get it repaired without proof of purchase?
ANY Replies or ideas are appreciated, please HELP
I would contact them without a receipt you may have to pay for the repair
but I don't see why they should not make money of you repairing your broken device
Thanks for the reply, my question is, i bought this phone off a friend and knowing him he got it from someone else who probably has stolen it, so if i take it in for repairs and it is stolen I'm screwed....right?.....are they able to I.D a stolen device?
Thats what you get when you buy a stolen device. You'll pay it back one way another.
I guess but for $250 who wouldnt take it. I guess i should have read ALOT more instead of rushing a flash. So last question, does anyone know if its physically possible to fix the phone, if it be replacing a bit or get a technician to hardwire or something......is it possible? or am i stuck with a nice new paperweight?
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I guess but for $250 who wouldnt take it. I guess i should have read ALOT more instead of rushing a flash. So last question, does anyone know if its physically possible to fix the phone, if it be replacing a bit or get a technician to hardwire or something......is it possible? or am i stuck with a nice new paperweight?
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I think its a case of what goes around, comes around.
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I have a similar problem. But mine is bought and original and I have a receipt. Anyways, there's no way around the sending, is there? Because, I think, it'll take a lot of time and regarding the fact, that the mistake is on my side, the warranty is void, isn't it?
Ok. As I stated, I dropped my AT&T Tilt in a pitcher of beer. I dried it out and it went to bootloader mode. I was able to reinstall the stock rom from the HTC website, and all functions worked for two days, then it went back to bootloader mode again. Now I can't get the rom to install. It starts installing but I keep getting connection errors before it completes. I think the USB port may be screwed up.
Anyway, I know there are threads about rescuing your phone from bootloader mode, and I may or may not continue to mess with it. But what I really wanted to ask is which phone you'd buy to replace your Tilt if you had to buy it out of pocket. I'm not due for an upgrade, so I'll have to pay full price. I really liked Windows Mobile and my favorite programs were Garmin and the three S2 programs.
I got the stock rom to install AGAIN.
We'll see how long it lasts. Still, I need to be looking for another phone. On the AT&T website it says a replacement Tilt would be 400 bucks and a Fuze would be 500, wtf. I paid 99 for this refurb Tilt. Man I hope it stabilizes.
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We'll see how long it lasts. Still, I need to be looking for another phone. On the AT&T website it says a replacement Tilt would be 400 bucks and a Fuze would be 500, wtf. I paid 99 for this refurb Tilt. Man I hope it stabilizes.
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You could always buy a used Tilt from the Marketplace, Since, you know, you seem to drop it in beer a lot.
Typically in my Personal and Professional Experience, Electronics don't survive Swimming very well.
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Ok. This is frustrating. I have downloaded the latest HTC Rom twice. Both times I was able to install it, and every function worked perfectly for about twenty-four hours. Then, both times, while downloading my email, it went into bootloader mode. Any suggestions? Do you think another Rom might be more stable. Here is what the page says:
KAIS1*0
SPL-3.56.0000
CPLD-8
It says "Serial" at the bottom, but it changes to "USB" when it's plugged in.
volumnus said:
Ok. This is frustrating. I have downloaded the latest HTC Rom twice. Both times I was able to install it, and every function worked perfectly for about twenty-four hours. Then, both times, while downloading my email, it went into bootloader mode. Any suggestions? Do you think another Rom might be more stable. Here is what the page says:
KAIS1*0
SPL-3.56.0000
CPLD-8
It says "Serial" at the bottom, but it changes to "USB" when it's plugged in.
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I suspect it has something to do with being dropped in beer......
Did you immediately remove the battery? Did you clean off the beer? Did you let it completely dry before powering it back on?
Perhaps its hungover. Have you tried dropping it into a glass of aspirin?
I found a way to make my phone somewhat live-with-able.
Ok. My phone works exactly like it used to except it gets stuck in bootloader mode periodically. I installed the fixed Hard SPL that is supposed to address this issue but it probably wasn't designed to correct beer damage. lol However, I found something that allows the phone to boot up normally. It's this. It was one of several suggestions in the WIKI, and this way you don't lose all of your programs and stuff. The phone powers up normally if you leave out step three.
1. Connect via MTTY as described above (Type the following commands without quotes).
2. Type the "set 16 0" and press enter. This removes the RUUNBH flag.
*********************LEAVE OUT*************************************
3. Type "task 8" to format the device. Yes you will lose all your data - if this is a problem, leave out this step, but if the problem isn't fixed afterwards, you'll have to add it back in.
*********************LEAVE OUT*************************************
4. Type "task 0" to tell your device to reboot.
5. If the phone didn't reboot, manually reset it now.
drmc said:
Perhaps its hungover. Have you tried dropping it into a glass of aspirin?
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Definite win.
autonomous-inc said:
Definite win.
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perhaps some black coffee would help.
drmc said:
Perhaps its hungover. Have you tried dropping it into a glass of aspirin?
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5+ for top100 best answers lol
like one of the previous posters said, if you can take the thing apart and let it set and clean all of the surfaces with a contact cleaner, remeber like soda, beer also leaves a sticky residue that takes forever to truly harden.
my 8925 went into a pool after being pushed in and it was shocking me, it sucked but after a new battery and doing this it worked fine again but it took a week to fully remove/dry everything out.
Thanks.
I'm probably not skilled enough to take it apart. But I've let it dry out. I left it on a vent for three days. It works just like before, but it's still getting stuck in bootloader mode occasionally when it's turned off and then back on, despite installing cmonex's 3.56 Hard-2 spl and the most recent AT&T rom from HTC. I can easily use a Mitty "task 0" command to get it to boot up normally, so it's more of an annoyance really. I just have to make it a few more months until my upgrade. I guess the Fuze is still the best thing AT&T has out, right?
Also, I ordered a new non-oem battery off ebay, 1600 mah. In cmonex's patched spl thread, someone claims that bad batteries contribute to phones getting stuck at the bootloader screen. We'll see. It hasn't arrived yet.
Check here:
Viper's Guide to Water Damage
Trv06kviper said:
Viper’s Guide To Water Damaged PDA’s
This guide is to help anyone that has accidently left their phone in their pocket and went swimming,Went to answer a call and it fell in a puddle..etc, etc. I’ve worked for a major telecom company and have run into this situation so many times. Decided after dealing with this issue and reading so many myths, baking, rice…etc that are hit or miss and potentially very dangerous. Here’s a little guide that many people use with success to revitalize their wet cell phones.
Step 1: Immediately take the battery out of the phone and SHAKE any excess water off.
Step 2: Dry your phone first using a towel, wiping up anything that did not get shaken off. Now get a blow dryer on low heat and position it to blow on your phone about a hand, two hands length distance. Do this for about an hour or 2. Your phone should get alittle warm. If for any reason its hot to touch stop now. Let it cool off and increase the distance between the blow dryer and your phone. Also note, any ports that a covered need to be opened and memory cards, sim cards as well.
Step 3: after all visible water is gone or dry, place it in a small container (Tupperware works) slightly bigger than your phone. Now loosely pack your phone with cotton balls in your container. This works better than rice because it will not leave a white residue and it helps protect and keep your phone clean. You will let it sit overnight, at least 24 hours.
Step 4: Check on your phone, some of the cotton balls should be wet or moist. Inspect the phone, rotate it around and really look for any water. If it feels dry as a bone put the battery back in and fire it up. If it didn’t fire up check to make sure the battery is charged. If so then it may need some more time to dry out. DO NOT plug the phone into the wall charger and try to fire it up.
Step 5: If your phone did not fire up after 24hours BE PATIENT! Give it another 2 days then give it a go. It should fire up by now. If it doesn’t at that point use your wall charger. If at that point it doesn’t work, you need to consult some repairs.
Hope this helps
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Thanks to the forum.
After installing cmonex's patched hard spl (3.56), it's working really well. No bootloader mode in two days. Keeping my fingers crossed. I've reloaded all my favorite programs, and it's running them fine. Thanks everybody.
well, this is why I love my tilt: my dad dropped his iphone in the pitcher as well, and lo n' behold > it died instantly
tilt kikz azz
So I decided that i wanted to try hero the other day so i did some searching and made sure i had everything required ....newest radio... check.....pvt board...check...rom ready to flash...check...i went through the whole proccess and got KiNgxKxROM up and running for at least a day and a half...then lastnight i was playing around with the phone and it reboot on its own (kinda like the random reboots i used to get when i first got the phone)...it went to the G1 screen then just went black..so i pulled the battery and tried to reboot...now i have no response from the phone what so ever...its totally dead as far as i can tell
i saw that someone had success by putting another sd card in and trying to boot but that does nothing for me
I am trying everything i can because somehow enough moisture crept into the phone to cause the little "your not getting another g1" sticker to turn red
any way i am hoping that some how my situation has a remedy but i doubt it does
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So I decided that i wanted to try hero the other day so i did some searching and made sure i had everything required ....newest radio... check.....pvt board...check...rom ready to flash...check...i went through the whole proccess and got KiNgxKxROM up and running for at least a day and a half...then lastnight i was playing around with the phone and it reboot on its own (kinda like the random reboots i used to get when i first got the phone)...it went to the G1 screen then just went black..so i pulled the battery and tried to reboot...now i have no response from the phone what so ever...its totally dead as far as i can tell
i saw that someone had success by putting another sd card in and trying to boot but that does nothing for me
I am trying everything i can because somehow enough moisture crept into the phone to cause the little "your not getting another g1" sticker to turn red
any way i am hoping that some how my situation has a remedy but i doubt it does
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this is not caused by the software sounds like your phone got a little wet some how and it messed up. try putting it in bowl of rice and if that does not work try a new battery.
tried a battery today at the store
i guess if it did get wet it could manifest itself a long time after the fact
well worth a shot regardless thanks for the advice
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tried a battery today at the store
i guess if it did get wet it could manifest itself a long time after the fact
well worth a shot regardless thanks for the advice
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yeah i split soda on a keyboard once it did not start acting strange for 3 or 4 days after that. and pull the battery and take it out then complete submerge it for at least a day. but the damage is most likely done
Hey, something similar happened to me a few months back.
I use to get a lot of random reboots and it was quiet annoying and then one day my phone rebooted and it had a black screen, I took the battery out and put it back in and the phone was unresponsive.
When you plug in the charger does the red LED turn on or is it dead?
Mine, the led never turned on but it go warm because it still charged the battery.
My motherboard in the phone was fried somehow, I can assure you this isn't from the Hero rom at all because my phone died before I was even into roms.
Call HTC America (or where ever your from) and then tell them your problem and ask for an RMA repair, if the same thing happened to your phone as mine then you don't have to worry about them finding any "illegal software" (Root, and anything else that didn't come on the phone besides apps) I had root enabled and that voids the warranty but there would be no way for them to check so they would just replace the mainboard and send it back. In total it cost me 8 dollars to ship the phone and I had it back within a week - two weeks.
I hope this helped out!
EDIT: Is your water damage sticker red? I wasn't able to understand weither it was or not. I think it is and I just spent this entire time typing this long post for nothing then eeep! If it is, get an LG Vu Battery and replace the sticker with the one on the battery, I'm pretty sure they are identical.
Eh both stickers are red
thanks again ...it actually makes me feel better that it wasn't me messing around with hero that got me here
It just sucks having to pay the same amount as they are currently charging new customers for the phone under contract through the stupid insurance