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ROOT! I thought MOTO was gonna unlock new phones

So i thought MOTO decided to unlock their new phones? Why is the 3 so F'N locked up???

Sorry MODS...i thought i was in general forum...could you please move?

I've got a dinc2 on the way for my wife and I'm really considering giving her my d3 and taking the dinc2. The really liking how sense 3.0 looks and the dinc2 just got unlocked and rooted.!
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suzook said:
Sorry MODS...i thought i was in general forum...could you please move?
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Haha, my heart skipped a few beats there when I read the title. Damn it

Moto shipped the D3 with a locked bootloader, but they will unlock later this year (supposedly).
Plus, per their quote from another Engadget article
We completely understand the operator requirement for security to the end user, and as well, want to support the developer communities desire to use these products as a development platform. It is our intention to enable the unlockable/relockable bootloader currently found on Motorola XOOM across our portfolio of devices starting in late 2011, where carriers and operators will allow it
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...starting in late 2011, where carriers and operators will allow it.
Motorola will make the first move with the bootloaders, then Verizon (or whoever else) will make theirs. Dunno how long between Motorola and us getting the unlock, but they can delay the process

Lol you got me there
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For the love of God, change the OP title.

I feel a little left out in the dark. Droid 3 has been out longer and it seems there has been literally zero movement on it. Sucks living in an area with the only available carriers being Verizon and AT&T.

haproot said:
I feel a little left out in the dark. Droid 3 has been out longer and it seems there has been literally zero movement on it. Sucks living in an area with the only available carriers being Verizon and AT&T.
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It's a locked bootloader running 2.3.4 which is extremely tough to crack. Plus you add in the fact that every single known exploit is blocked, that's the development delay.
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Moderators, please rename this thread, the subject is very misleading. OP doesn't seem to care.
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I doubt we'll see the bootloader unlocked. Look at HTC even. They've released their list of devices they'll be allowing the web-based unlock to happen with and it's over a dozen deep with not a single Verizon device on the list. It's Verizon that doesn't want us to have the unlock, not Motorola.

If Motorola really wanted us to have an unlock they would leak it. Maybe Googlorola will instead?
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Androidsims said:
If Motorola really wanted us to have an unlock they would leak it. Maybe Googlorola will instead?
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I prefer motoogle

elkay said:
I doubt we'll see the bootloader unlocked. Look at HTC even. They've released their list of devices they'll be allowing the web-based unlock to happen with and it's over a dozen deep with not a single Verizon device on the list. It's Verizon that doesn't want us to have the unlock, not Motorola.
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That sucks. I was worried that was the case and it most likely is. Anybody know if AT&T has anything that is unlockable? Its my only other choice for a carrier.
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Androidsims said:
If Motorola really wanted us to have an unlock they would leak it. Maybe Googlorola will instead?
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Motorola probably has a contract with Verizon that they will not unlock the phones without their permission first, which they would be breaching and surely be sued for if they simply just went ahead and did it.

haproot said:
That sucks. I was worried that was the case and it most likely is. Anybody know if AT&T has anything that is unlockable? Its my only other choice for a carrier.
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The Atrix bootloader can be unlocked. It might void some or all of your warranty, but it can be unlocked.

Please! Just got me for the second time.
leobg said:
Moderators, please rename this thread, the subject is very misleading. OP doesn't seem to care.
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dtdlurch said:
Please! Just got me for the second time.
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Try reading.. Only thing that needs to be changed is the exclamation point to a question mark and it couldn't get any clearer.

Is anyone going to develop custom ROMs for this phone?

If I'm not mistaken, the Bionic has an encrypted bootloader. Will there actually be a development community behind this phone?

According to a developer on the mikmik forums the bionics boot loader is unlocked and the system dump has been rooted.
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Beamer9408 said:
According to a developer on the mikmik forums the bionics boot loader is unlocked and the system dump has been rooted.
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P3Droid (who is the man) has the deodexed dumps already.
http://www.mydroidworld.com/forums/...id-bionic-system-dumps-partial.html#post99195
I'm sort of waiting to see if the Droid Prime is vanilla or not. Maybe by then the Bionic will be cheaper and I can compare the two. I imagine the CM team will develop for this beast.

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According to a developer on the mikmik forums the bionics boot loader is unlocked and the system dump has been rooted.
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The bootloader is not unlocked. It is unlockable if the carriers allow it. And that is the question "if"

esocid said:
P3Droid (who is the man) has the deodexed dumps already.
http://www.mydroidworld.com/forums/...id-bionic-system-dumps-partial.html#post99195
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Thanks for posting that.
Just so nobody panics my ROM & kernels listing will be up by Saturday. Hopefully by then we'll at least have a few ROMs out.

Beamer9408 said:
According to a developer on the mikmik forums the bionics boot loader is unlocked and the system dump has been rooted.
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Okay I am confused, I just picked up the Bionic today and i'm coming from an iphone so bear with me on my droid stupidity. you said the bionics boot loader is unlocked which is a good thing to load custom roms and then....
trentreed said:
The bootloader is not unlocked. It is unlockable if the carriers allow it. And that is the question "if"
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you say its locked & unlockable if the carrier allows it, but the HTC Thunderbolt's boot loader is unlocked, so shouldn't this one be as well? All I know is that there is a crap ton of software that I do not want and would like to remove in the future.
Again I apologize for my question but having 2 people saying 2 different things to someone new like me just confuses me.
Should I return it and get the tbolt so i can get some cm7 roms, or will this have them in the future and should i wait it out?

sLpFhaWK said:
Okay I am confused, I just picked up the Bionic today and i'm coming from an iphone so bear with me on my droid stupidity. you said the bionics boot loader is unlocked which is a good thing to load custom roms and then....
you say its locked & unlockable if the carrier allows it, but the HTC Thunderbolt's boot loader is unlocked, so shouldn't this one be as well? All I know is that there is a crap ton of software that I do not want and would like to remove in the future.
Again I apologize for my question but having 2 people saying 2 different things to someone new like me just confuses me.
Should I return it and get the tbolt so i can get some cm7 roms, or will this have them in the future and should i wait it out?
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Moto's had a nasty habit of locking bootloaders, which prevents custom kernels from running.
HTC did for awhile, but got some sense and knocked it off. Samsung doesn't lock theirs.
Even if Verizon does permit unlocked bootloaders, Moto still has to implement it. And if they don't, well, we're out of luck until they either change their policy or someone figures out how to get around it.

HTC has publicly stated they are only unlocking bootloaders of phones starting with the Sensation and the EVO 3D and forward; this doesn't include the Thunderbolt.

Berzerker7 said:
HTC has publicly stated they are only unlocking bootloaders of phones starting with the Sensation and the EVO 3D and forward; this doesn't include the Thunderbolt.
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yet we can unlock the tbolt easily.

I sure hope so! Can't wait and hope it develops as the Inc forum has

the unlocked bootloader is a deciding factor in me getting this phone, I have hopes that a developer can get it. God knows how long it'll take if they do actually approve the unlock for it to go through, could be 6-8 months.

The Bootloader doesn't need to be unlocked for custom Roms.
I have one waiting in the wings for Bootstrap to be up.
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DroidTh3ory said:
The Bootloader doesn't need to be unlocked for custom Roms.
I have one waiting in the wings for Bootstrap to be up.
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Yeah I know but you won't be able to flash kernels or radio's. That really is a big help to improve performance and battery consumption.
If I can find one cheap enough I might jump in before then

POQbum said:
Yeah I know but you won't be able to flash kernels or radio's. That really is a big help to improve performance and battery consumption.
If I can find one cheap enough I might jump in before then
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Agree completely.. at least overclocking should be possible. Even with the debloat and the few tweaks I have made now, the phone doesn't hiccup. The damn thing is a powerhouse, when we can start digging inti MEM and RAM settings I can see some great potential. At least until the bootloader gets unlocked.
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People are working on getting 2nd init working on the Bionic. Can't give too many details yet...but it could be coming...

Berzerker7 said:
People are working on getting 2nd init working on the Bionic. Can't give too many details yet...but it could be coming...
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!!!!
yeah! paypal ready and waiting

Keep me in the loop on that please
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How the hell do I get rid of the bloat in this phone? I just rooted
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Tommymac1039 said:
How the hell do I get rid of the bloat in this phone? I just rooted
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Just use titanium to freeze or remove.
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Tommymac1039 said:
How the hell do I get rid of the bloat in this phone? I just rooted
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well you can wait for theorys rom to come out... or if you can't wait use titanium backup.. and freeze the apps.
that will get them out of your system ... and best if yo want to go back just unfreeze them.

[Q] S-OFF HTC Vivid

is there a way to get s-off for the htc vivid?

Nope and atm its not needed
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Search, people, search!!!
I've seen this question at least twice in the past 24 hours, and this isn't a fast moving forum!
Doktor is right; it's not available and is not (yet) needed. Certain people have S-Off just because of either the way their phone happened to come from the factory, or because they just have developer devices.

Aus_Azn said:
Search, people, search!!!
I've seen this question at least twice in the past 24 hours, and this isn't a fast moving forum!
Doktor is right; it's not available and is not (yet) needed. Certain people have S-Off just because of either the way their phone happened to come from the factory, or because they just have developer devices.
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It is unreal... The laziness is ridiculous
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Can we have a sticky with FAQs like this? search functions are rarely perfect for me (even though in one case, the answer is actually on the first page)

:facepalm: There already is one. No one bothers to read so I hardly even work on it.
Also search functions are pretty good, you just have to you know read, and refine your search if it comes up wrong.

travisxcore said:
:facepalm: There already is one.
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Oh the irony... LOL :what:
Anyhow, I wish people would stop saying that we don't need it... With s-off, we would not be stuck waiting for carrier signed hboot images; as soon as one carrier released it or someone received a leak, we would all be able to use it. Right now, each user is stuck waiting for their carrier. So, all the Canadian users are stuck on GB for now for example.
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Mad Medik said:
Oh the irony... LOL :what:
Anyhow, I wish people would stop saying that we don't need it... With s-off, we would not be stuck waiting for carrier signed hboot images; as soon as one carrier released it or someone received a leak, we would all be able to use it. Right now, each user is stuck waiting for their carrier. So, all the Canadian users are stuck on GB for now for example.
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As far as I understand it the firmware from onr will not work with the other. Irregardless of s-off, the radio for ics I think was change so you would still need your carriers updated radio.
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I can't comment on whether there was a change of radio from GB to ICS in the releases so far. However, I can tell you that Rogers and Bell in Canada use the same frequencies and protocols as US AT&T. I have an AT&T SIM that I use when travelling in the US and my Raider works fine. So I infer that either the radios are identical (att vs Bell, not GB vs ICS) or compatible. With S-Off, I would be up and running.
Also, if I understand correctly, with S-off, we would be free to mix and match, so I could try the ATT ICS Rom, with the Bell GB radio. Anyhow, all wishful thinking for now.
MM
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For those interested in s-off ;-) you may want to take a look at this thread: http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=1573491
OP there indicates he is beta testing an s-off tool on pur device. You may want to express your thatnks and support there...
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Looks like they're close to releasing it too. Been actively following that thread cuz I'm dying to install some wicked custom ics roms on my raider and my wife's. . Super stoked for this.
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once s-off is done then yes will be able to flash roms from other htc devices to the vivid.as s-off lets you flash different radios instead having to use the radios the roms come with

Will s-off allow us to install kernels from recovery (so we don't need to fastboot from the computer each time)? Or do we just need a recovery capable of this?

Yes it let's you flash kernels in recovery
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The beta is out!
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Mad Medik said:
For those interested in s-off ;-) you may want to take a look at this thread: http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=1573491
OP there indicates he is beta testing an s-off tool on pur device. You may want to express your thatnks and support there...
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The thread magically disappeared.

good bye

leaving my vivid for its bigger brother the one x , loved this phone despite the little devs this phone will now be just for play and other random thing ,

fredy915 said:
leaving my vivid for its bigger brother the one x , loved this phone despite the little devs this phone will now be just for play and other random thing ,
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Not gonna wait for the One X+?
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I too, will be leaving the Vivid when my contract is up. Great "first phone" for Android, but moving on to the SGS3.

fredy915 said:
leaving my vivid for its bigger brother the one x , loved this phone despite the little devs this phone will now be just for play and other random thing ,
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keep in mind if you're getting a One X and it comes with 2.20 on it, there's no root available yet. So it doesn't matter how many devs they have for the device, until they achieve root you won't be able to use any of their stuff.

homeslice976 said:
keep in mind if you're getting a One X and it comes with 2.20 on it, there's no root available yet. So it doesn't matter how many devs they have for the device, until they achieve root you won't be able to use any of their stuff.
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yep so the vivid is currently looking like a better option LOL

Got the Vivid when it first came out - this phone can't help but create mixed feelings:
Cons:
- Phone is heavy
- Battery life so-so, especially now that LTE is active
- Difficulty to unlock the phone means limited developers
Pros:
- Nice big screen with good quality (at full-brightness, nearly as good as S3 or HTC One X)
- Good camera and GPS (coming from the Captivate which was disastrous in both lol)
- Has FM radio, external SD cards and removable batteries - most of the top Android phones these days are missing at least one of these
The difficulty to develop is probably the biggest downside, but after almost a year I've finally dived into custom ROMs. Unlocked the bootloader, got S-Off thanks to the wire trick, even SIM Unlocked! Using Holis ROM, which is great, should tide me over until next spring when I'm eligible for an upgrade.
So in conclusion, while the Vivid was subpar under GB, since ICS came out it's been really nice. But I certainly wouldn't recommend anyone buying this phone unless it was cheap.

What is a vivid. Its not available in the UK
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homeslice976 said:
keep in mind if you're getting a One X and it comes with 2.20 on it, there's no root available yet. So it doesn't matter how many devs they have for the device, until they achieve root you won't be able to use any of their stuff.
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Htcdev unlock it an you're set. Same as vivid.
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Can't unlock the att one x (xl) without super cid which requires root. 2.20 has no root, so no HTCdev unlock. Att won't allow the bootloader to be unlocked
The intl one x as well as the s and v are htcdev unlockable

weeo said:
What is a vivid. Its not available in the UK
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I think it's either called the Raider or the Velocity in the UK. As far as I know, it's Raider in Canada (I can confirm that one at least since I own one), and Velocity in Aus/NZ.

ess.boyer said:
I think it's either called the Raider or the Velocity in the UK. As far as I know, it's Raider in Canada (I can confirm that one at least since I own one), and Velocity in Aus/NZ.
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I believe the Velocity is for China/ Korea

It is known by 3 names:
Vivid for the US
Velocity for Australia
Raider 4G everywhere else
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grunt0300 said:
I too, will be leaving the Vivid when my contract is up. Great "first phone" for Android, but moving on to the SGS3.
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This is exactly what I did. I have had the S3 for three weeks and it's so much better.
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ENvisiNKeD said:
Not gonna wait for the One X+?
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I bought this off contract lol just waiting a few more days to get the one x +
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homeslice976 said:
Can't unlock the att one x (xl) without super cid which requires root. 2.20 has no root, so no HTCdev unlock. Att won't allow the bootloader to be unlocked
The intl one x as well as the s and v are htcdev unlockable
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Already have boot loader unlocked and running a custom with 2.20 loving this phone just can't wait to get the one x + or if they make a nexus 4 with 32gig like that did the nexus 7 I'll get betting that instead so I'm just going to wait a few months or so and see what happens
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fredy915 said:
Already have boot loader unlocked and running a custom with 2.20 loving this phone just can't wait to get the one x + or if they make a nexus 4 with 32gig like that did the nexus 7 I'll get betting that instead so I'm just going to wait a few months or so and see what happens
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Yes, root for 2.20 was accomplished a few weeks or so after I posted that. Awesome what the dev community can do

homeslice976 said:
Yes, root for 2.20 was accomplished a few weeks or so after I posted that. It was wonderful news
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Yeah it was nice only had stock for about 2 weeks then once root was achieved bam loll rooted this baby
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I bounced out for lgog! The best phone out today. Ips, s4 pro, 2 gig ram,16 gig internal, removable SD slot, lte, unlock bl, also support
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It was a good run, but I think I'm going to retire my Vivid and get a One X+. Thanks to all the devs who continued to support the phone, after the situation. It's been great guys, thanks for making a great community around this little phone.

Viper ROM power settings

There any way to change the layout of the power bar in the Viper ROM?
(more specifically, disable the wifi tether icon)
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No
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Well that's dumb.. Any alternatives?
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No
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Actually, yes there is, and i've done it.
Disable (freeze) the wifi tether widget and it's gone.
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benmatlock said:
Well that's dumb.. Any alternatives?
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Become a dev yourself.
Look, the dev scene is just starting out. The phone hasn't even been out a month. Give it some damn time. There is no point in calling a devs work dumb just because it's missing one feature you would like to have. Especially this early in the game. They do this for free, they get nothing out of releasing their work, so you learn to code and add in the features you want, or suck it the **** up, cupcake.
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youkosnake said:
Become a dev yourself.
Look, the dev scene is just starting out. The phone hasn't even been out a month. Give it some damn time. There is no point in calling a devs work dumb just because it's missing one feature you would like to have. Especially this early in the game. They do this for free, they get nothing out of releasing their work, so you learn to code and add in the features you want, or suck it the **** up, cupcake.
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holy **** bro, chill the eff out, i did dig into it and find what I wanted, if you had read deeper down, you'd realize this.
Oh, and if I feel the need to learn the ins and outs of the application side of an os I can easily replace with linux, maybe i will become an android dev, but for now, i'll work on porting ubuntu to this phone,
Is that okay with you?
One more thing, when someone asks 'is this possible' and someone else says 'no' i take that as 'not yet'. I was basically saying 'that's dumb' to his response, not the fact that the app lacks functionality (which i understand will come in time, i develop bro, for posix based systems)

youkosnake said:
Become a dev yourself.
Look, the dev scene is just starting out. The phone hasn't even been out a month. Give it some damn time. There is no point in calling a devs work dumb just because it's missing one feature you would like to have. Especially this early in the game. They do this for free, they get nothing out of releasing their work, so you learn to code and add in the features you want, or suck it the **** up, cupcake.
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btw, you're very rude.

youkosnake said:
Look, the dev scene is just starting out.
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far from being correct by the way... the 'dev scene' has been around since punch cards and core memory.

What version of Viper are you on? I don't have the WiFi teather in any of my drop downs on 1.1.0. I only see it in my app drawer. It can grab it and place it in the home screens, but as a widget I done see it in any of the power controls or other multi system function toggle bars.
Like you mentioned I can freeze it from TB or simply uninstall it.
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Strangely enough after I installed the 1.1 it didn't come back
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Are you talking about EQS? If so, this might work for ViperRom since I believe EQS was ported from Torxx rom. Of course you would use files from viperrom not trickdroid
http://trickdroid.org/tutorial-how-to-modify-toggles-in-trickdroid-for-one/
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