Gpu accell on android - Off-topic

Do you think that after gpu acelleration is enable throughout the whole android OS the OS will get smoother than IOS?
I think so because I was comparing the photo gallery app on the iphone 4S and on my mytouch 4G slide and the mytouch was much smoother than iphone in the gallery which is one of the few places in the OS that its hardware accelerated. Even the G2 gallery app is smoother then the IOS gallery when pinch to zooming and scrolling through the pictures
It is no suprise because it is only normal that android gpu acell will be smoother than IOS since we got more powerful specs and processor. I was also playing with the blackberry torch and windows 7 phones on the store and their just as smooth as the iphone too, it seems android is the only OS that doesn't run as smooth. And all android needs is the damn hardware acelleration to beat the iphone in smoothness and this has been fix already in ICS. I'm just waiting for the update to android 4.0 on the slide to see just how smooth the OS will run.
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Android already has GPU acceleration.

Archer said:
Android already has GPU acceleration.
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Not the slide or android phones with versions that aren't ICS, I'm talking about those that doesn't have HW acceleration
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See: http://www.xda-developers.com/android/former-google-engineer-explains-why-androids-ui-is-laggy/
It has to do with how each OS prioritizes tasks

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See: http://www.xda-developers.com/android/former-google-engineer-explains-why-androids-ui-is-laggy/
It has to do with how each OS prioritizes tasks
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I read that article before but still I think they should than make the android priority thread the highest then so it would be just as smooth. If they explained why android is laggy they might as well fix it to be just as smooth as IOS don't you think so?
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[Q] Is the Optimus 2X laggy?

Hello,
I want to ask optimus 2X owners something,
I read a review on engadget
And they say that the optimus 2X's software is laggy and that the memory is not enough
Is that true? or can I buy my optimus 2X without any doubt?
Thank you
Grazl said:
Hello,
I want to ask optimus 2X owners something,
I read a review on engadget
And they say that the optimus 2X's software is laggy and that the memory is not enough
Is that true? or can I buy my optimus 2X without any doubt?
Thank you
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No, retail software 2.2.2 is stable and not laggy.
Grazl said:
Hello,
I read a review on engadget
Thank you
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forget engadget
Huck33 said:
forget engadget
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Dont listen to iGadget..... they are critical when it comes to Android...
Whilst "i" products are rated on a 8 - 10 scale
true! apple fanboys the whole team!
jawiz said:
true! apple fanboys the whole team!
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They are! Apply products are reviewed on a scale from 8 - 10 where as everything else is on a scale from 1 - 8!
i have installed a lot of apps and still everything is very fast.
No lag here lol lightning fast..
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It was very fast until the new rom update that sprint put out. Now everything just crawls. Used to have root as well. Now just looking to maybe get a different rom loaded
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No certainly not laggy! very responsive!
No lags.
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lag?
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Mine is rooted, some applications frozen - I have noticed nothing i would call lag.
Well, I disagree with recent sentiment in this thread.
It does lag.
No terribly so but it's patently obvious that some processes don't use SMP and as a result lag is evident.
Whenever the package manager is accessed or a notification comes in the phone seems to go into serial processing mode and effectively hands processor priority to the system app.
In my opinion this is software related and is fixed in Honeycomb - these lags are not apparent on a Moto Xoom (2.3) but they are apparent on a Moto Atrix (2.2).
Examples:
Play a CPU intensive game and force a notification, watch it momentarily stall.
Queue a lot of Market downloads and wait till they start "installing" - try using your phone.
eracet said:
It was very fast until the new rom update that sprint put out. Now everything just crawls. Used to have root as well. Now just looking to maybe get a different rom loaded
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Are you sure you are talking about the right phone? i think you are in the wrong section, this is about the Optimus 2X, not Optimus S...
Lol it doesn't lag
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jawiz said:
Are you sure you are talking about the right phone? i think you are in the wrong section, this is about the Optimus 2X, not Optimus S...
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Yes you are correct. Seen my mistake after posting
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My homescreen is almost always laggy.
Weather animation lags to.
The phonecall quality is also bad.
Its not what i've expected from a dual core phone and
Im not 100% happy with this gadget.
laggy? I would say it got some certain hangtimes on occasions...
at 1st, there was no lags, now I had it for about 14 days, and its filled up with a lot off apps. I get hangtimes when installing a new app. That was not the situation in the beginnning. Also got some hangtimes when exiting some apps on occasion.
I found a workaround though.
I rooted, installed autokiller (not a usual task killer as you might think of) and Cache Cleaner NG.
Also, I installed Titanium backup, and "froze" or uninstalled unnessecary apps, stock apps etc. Now I got a lot more free ram, and a quicker ROM.
I use Zeam Launcher and I have frozen LG launcher.
But don't get to worried. When android 2.3 comes around, it will be much faster, as 2.2 doesn't support dual core + 2.3 is much more optimized.
Battery life + user experince will increase tenfold or more
The best phone till date in my oppinion.
looking forward to HTC Pyramid though, which I dont expect to be around the next 6 months, and by then, I'm able to get a new phone
The LG Launcher is not really that good, not laggy but not super responsive either. I user LauncherPro and haven't experienced any lag at all. I'm amazed at this phones speed.

How to eliminate ALL scrolling lag and YouTube/HD video stuttering

Google's project butter is the best thing to ever happen to android in terms of visual polish but I was curious as to why it still was jittery despite all its freaking gpu/cpu cores.
Turns out full gpu acceleration is not on by default so I went into development in the settings and forced 2d gpu acceleration. Disabling the overlays does more harm than good it seems.
This thing is BUTTER. Try this in rom toolbox, before scrolling was jittery and after it was perfect. Same with tapatalk.
What it breaks:
Google movies
Moon reader+ fonts
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Should work out for the most part, but some apps out there may not function properly with HW acceleration.
Ah, that works much much better. Before it seemed only a little faster than my old Kindle Fire ICS Rom, but now it's flying.
BananaFusion said:
Ah, that works much much better. Before it seemed only a little faster than my old Kindle Fire ICS Rom, but now it's flying.
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Now go and try to watch the Transformers movie you downloaded for free.... LOL
Disabling this also fixed my stuttering problems on YouTube app and 720p movies stored internally. Don't really plan on using Google movies that much anyway.
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Should work out for the most part, but some apps out there may not function properly with HW acceleration.
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Since it's so easy to change (no reboot even required) it shouldn't be a big problem for most people. Its a very dramatic change in fluidity and silkyness you wont forget to turn it back on.
Now I just gotta figure out what's making apex redraw
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Please post all issues you have with this so I can post in the op what this borks so people know what they're getting into.
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Do you need to root?
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Thanks a bunch for this!!!
someone hit the op's thanks button!
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Do you need to root?
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Nope
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You mean something like this?
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Great advice! Gets rid of scroll lag in Tapatalk for sure.
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How do you think this will affect battery life?
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redmonke255 said:
How do you think this will affect battery life?
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As a rule anything that improves performance draws more power so I'm betting this is no exception.
shojus said:
Now go and try to watch the Transformers movie you downloaded for free.... LOL
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Yes, there is no picture in the movie. I don't think overlays need to be turned off for speed, overlays should be supported in HW by the GPU as well. So if you force GPU 2D rendering, that is enough to really speed up the UI.
Or maybe I am wrong?
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Yes, there is no picture in the movie. I don't think overlays need to be turned off for speed, overlays should be supported in HW by the GPU as well. So if you force GPU 2D rendering, that is enough to really speed up the UI.
Or maybe I am wrong?
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Can anyone confirm this?
It seems like disabling he overlays goes more harm than good, forcing 2d acceleration seems to be the best route.
Oh and this will use more ram, but when was the last time you ran out of ram anyways.
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Funny seeing this tweak brought up here. We went through 6+ months on prime messing with that tweak. I believe it more so just enables older apps to use hardware acceleration. Most newer apps and jellybean rom in general already uses hardware acceleration in the coding by default. Regardless of what you see in developers settings. This was the case in ICS. Likely the same with jellybean also. Alot of developers chimed in on the subject that we might be seeing more of a placebo effect. It likely does work but for older coded apps n such. Most new apps should already use hardware acceleration by default(regardless of what developer setting is showing). Some apps will have issues with it though. Some apps not made to support hardware acceleration so just keep a tally of what apps act up and add them to the op. The new NVISION app for example. At first it messed up with that setting. Cut it off and the app works fine. They eventually updated the app so the setting wouldn't mess it up anymore.
It'll also raise your 2d scores in quadrant, I believe. This will drain battery faster though. I know on prime, it was hard to tell if this was really working or not. To me, it seemed to be working. But down the road I cut it off and things were just the same. So who knows..lol. I know Y nexus 7 doesn't need it. Give it a shot if you experiencing lag somewhere and see of it helps. There's a good chance though that its just a placebo effect. Thouroughly testing needs to be done with it off n on. Jellybean by default already has hardware acceleration for apps n other things. Regardless of what developers option show.
Hi,
Forcing 2D accel results in moon reader+ not displaying fonts on my N7
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demandarin said:
Funny seeing this tweak brought up here. We went through 6+ months on prime messing with that tweak. I believe it more so just enables older apps to use hardware acceleration. Most newer apps and jellybean rom in general already uses hardware acceleration in the coding by default. Regardless of what you see in developers settings. This was the case in ICS. Likely the same with jellybean also. Alot of developers chimed in on the subject that we might be seeing more of a placebo effect. It likely does work but for older coded apps n such. Most new apps should already use hardware acceleration by default(regardless of what developer setting is showing). Some apps will have issues with it though. Some apps not made to support hardware acceleration so just keep a tally of what apps act up and add them to the op. The new NVISION app for example. At first it messed up with that setting. Cut it off and the app works fine. They eventually updated the app so the setting wouldn't mess it up anymore.
It'll also raise your 2d scores in quadrant, I believe. This will drain battery faster though. I know on prime, it was hard to tell if this was really working or not. To me, it seemed to be working. But down the road I cut it off and things were just the same. So who knows..lol. I know Y nexus 7 doesn't need it. Give it a shot if you experiencing lag somewhere and see of it helps. There's a good chance though that its just a placebo effect. Thouroughly testing needs to be done with it off n on. Jellybean by default already has hardware acceleration for apps n other things. Regardless of what developers option show.
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No placebo effect here, this genuinely works even in new apps especially tapatalk and rom toolbox, you should try those with the setting off and then on. Those two apps were bugging me the most. I'm sure it will drain the battery more but I already get three days of use out of this thing anyways.
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Remove Android Lag [entropy]

Someone just messaged me this "fix" for android lag
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showpost.php?p=35971545&postcount=20669
I personally haven't noticed any lag but thought it might be worth sharing here.
sorry if its already been shared
I don't really notice a difference.
The typical Android hiccups are still there.
Lothaen said:
Someone just messaged me this "fix" for android lag
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showpost.php?p=35971545&postcount=20669
I personally haven't noticed any lag but thought it might be worth sharing here.
sorry if its already been shared
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Eeehh...
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What lag ?
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What's lag?
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I don't experience any lag at all from this device (and didn't on my S2 running Cyanogenmod for that matter either).
No lag to report on the Nexus 4... But interesting read nonetheless. Might use it on the Galaxy S2 (Which DOES lag, even though some say it doesn't. Compare both N4 and S2 side by side... It's painful to watch)
Is this like jet lag?
Who Lag?
More like turbo lag
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No lag here on this badboy!
The lag is from the way Android was designed originally. Not all apps are even optimized for the platform and others are quick ports from other platforms. Also they are still lacking with hardware to software optimizations.
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The're some apps which are lagging. But the Nexus4 itself? Bullsh**!!!
Smoothest Android phone ever (just compare to the Note 2, this phone lags!)
deezid said:
The're some apps which are lagging. But the Nexus4 itself? Bullsh**!!!
Smoothest Android phone ever (just compare to the Note 2, this phone lags!)
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Agreed. It may be the applications that lag but not the system itself. I have yet to see a hiccup when browsing through my Nexus.
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There are some pretty awful frame drops when using the device in landscape, especially in the app drawer. I wonder if this fixes that.
alwaysbboy said:
I have yet to see a hiccup when browsing through my Nexus.
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Don't lie.
The Nexus 4 might be the smoothest Android device, but it is still lagging compared to other systems like iOS or WP 7/8
Nuu~ said:
Don't lie.
The Nexus 4 might be the smoothest Android device, but it is still lagging compared to other systems like iOS or WP 7/8
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Compared to my iPhone 4 the N4's browser is like internet explorer vs chrome.
Sounds like snake oil. Androids remaining lag is too deeply rooted to be squashed with some shell code parlor trick. Android gives content fetching more priority than rendering the UI, it's something that Google has to take care of by rewriting the framework. Ios does this beautifully btw, it doesn't need 4 cores for fluid scrolling and even with 4 cores nexus can't touch it ... yet.
Ace42 said:
Compared to my iPhone 4 the N4's browser is like internet explorer vs chrome.
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We talking about IE10?
Eric-1987 said:
We talking about IE10?
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IE sucks no matter how many numbers are after it.
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Laggy OS

so i have had nexus 7 for awhile and even with 4.2.1 and custom rom the device i thought it would be as smooth as an iPhone however its really laggy at times does anyone else have this issue with games and loading apps it just seems so wrong to have a penta core processor and the buttery effects of 4.1 to feel laggy
This is the 10th time I'm reading this here! -.-
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gh0sti said:
so i have had nexus 7 for awhile and even with 4.2.1 and custom rom the device i thought it would be as smooth as an iPhone however its really laggy at times does anyone else have this issue with games and loading apps it just seems so wrong to have a penta core processor and the buttery effects of 4.1 to feel laggy
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Rumor has it that the lower your IQ, the more laggy the N7 is. It's called "User IQ AI," and is a new feature of 4.2 and up.
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Sell it and go buy an ipad.
Oh my... I think there are hundreds of threads like this one! Why can't you use that search function? You think it's there for nothing?
Closed, please read the forum

60 fps video recording?

Maybe this is just my imagination, but 1080p video recording on 4.4.1 seems to be smoother than 4.4 by an order of magnitude. It's darker than before, but If I'm not mistaken, it appears to be recording at 60 fps (which is a feature of the Snapdragon 800). Really cool and interesting.
maxpower7 said:
Maybe this is just my imagination, but 1080p video recording on 4.4.1 seems to be smoother than 4.4 by an order of magnitude. It's darker than before, but If I'm not mistaken, it appears to be recording at 60 fps (which is a feature of the Snapdragon 800). Really cool and interesting.
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That's odd, I thought the Nexus 5 didn't support 60FPS @ 1080p
Jimlarck said:
That's odd, I thought the Nexus 5 didn't support 60FPS @ 1080p
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I haven't looked at the EXIF data so I could be wrong, but give it a shot - it's waaaay smoother than before the update. This phone has a SOC that supports 1080px60 recording, so it's not outside of the realm of possibility.
My video recording seems broke now,. Pressing the red button doesnt do anything within the camera app any ideas? Cleared cache dalvik and camera app data. Photos are working fine however
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Video recording remains [email protected] It's been improved so it doesn't drop frames as it did before the update.
bloot said:
Video recording remains [email protected] It's been improved so it doesn't drop frames as it did before the update.
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Is there a way we can verify the framerate on-device? It looks smoother than 30fps to me.
emerica243 said:
My video recording seems broke now,. Pressing the red button doesnt do anything within the camera app any ideas? Cleared cache dalvik and camera app data. Photos are working fine however
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I have the same probem. So it's not just you.
maxpower7 said:
Is there a way we can verify the framerate on-device? It looks smoother than 30fps to me.
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Install MX player, play video in MX player, during playback go to menu button on the top right. Click tools then properties or details then in the pop up click more
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psychoace said:
Install MX player, play video in MX player, during playback go to menu button on the top right. Click tools then properties or details then in the pop up click more
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"Unsupported Android version"
emerica243 said:
My video recording seems broke now,. Pressing the red button doesnt do anything within the camera app any ideas? Cleared cache dalvik and camera app data. Photos are working fine however
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Make sure you're on a stock 4.4.1 kernel. I was on Franco r17 and had this happen also.
RussianBear said:
Make sure you're on a stock 4.4.1 kernel. I was on Franco r17 and had this happen also.
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Thanks
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maxpower7 said:
"Unsupported Android version"
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Yep, MX player is unsupported on 4.4.1 at the moment. Found "BPSplayer free" and when tapping on info button shows that my video recordings are averaging around 30fps with 4.4.1. It looks much smoother to the eye and preforms extremely well for a smartphone. But no 60fps based on these results.
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bhake said:
Yep, MX player is unsupported on 4.4.1 at the moment. Found "BPSplayer free" and when tapping on info button shows that my video recordings are averaging around 30fps with 4.4.1. It looks much smoother to the eye and preforms extremely well for a smartphone. But no 60fps based on these results.
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Well, correct you are. Disappointing, but still a huge improvement.
I really dont understand why Google chooses not to leverage the hardware they put in their devices. Our phone is capable of doing both 1080p60 and 4k30, but it supports neither.
maxpower7 said:
Well, correct you are. Disappointing, but still a huge improvement.
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Considering how well this update looks and performs on the N5 camera/video, I can see why one would think it was 60fps. I wouldn't be disappointed. I'm impressed.
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We could give it a try guys.. who is ready to test?
muyoso said:
I really dont understand why Google chooses not to leverage the hardware they put in their devices. Our phone is capable of doing both 1080p60 and 4k30, but it supports neither.
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I'd imagine it has to do with proprietary binaries from Qualcomm. Android likes everything to be open source, with access for all of us to modify/tinker, but putting all their special "tricks" which may not exist on other platforms (exynos, mediatek, etc) into open source code would potentially allow competitors to reverse engineer their methods. If you're familiar with Nvidia graphics cards on Linux it's the same thing. You can use TRUE open-source graphics drivers that are essentially terrible (no gpu video acceleration for video playback) but have source code available for, or you can use the proprietary NVIDIA drivers that arrive as binaries, no source code, but everything works perfectly on with great performance. They do this so ATI can't reverse engineer their drivers, essentially. There's also the possibility that Qualcomm charges based on which features they enable (they did this WAY back in the day on the HTC Mogul, not including hardware graphics acceleration drivers because HTC didn't want to pay extra).
I also noticed that right away much smoother video! +1 here
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after the 4.4.1 update video recording has a lot of disturbance in the audio.....anyone else faced the same issue?
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Is there a way we can verify the framerate on-device? It looks smoother than 30fps to me.
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I've checked it on VLC player computer version.

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