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Im qurently testing different ROM's and at the moment im using the stock Gingerbread ROM (2.12.405.7) and the phone is S-OFF and Rooted.
But when i made a check for software update from "Settings -> About phone" there was a update availebel with the version 2.30.405.1.
Does installing this update change S-OFF to S-ON or change anything to the ROOT of my phone?
I havn't been able to find anythng about this update, so does anybody have any info about it?
Sorry...
Just did a search in the Dev forum and found this thread.
jkolner said:
Im qurently testing different ROM's and at the moment im using the stock Gingerbread ROM (2.12.405.7) and the phone is S-OFF and Rooted.
But when i made a check for software update from "Settings -> About phone" there was a update availebel with the version 2.30.405.1.
Does installing this update change S-OFF to S-ON or change anything to the ROOT of my phone?
I havn't been able to find anythng about this update, so does anybody have any info about it?
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With previous HTC models, trying to install an OTA update with a custom recovery installed will fail. You would need to flash the 2.12 recovery image in order to install the OTA, which will wipe out your custom recovery and unroot your phone.
If you achieved S-OFF by using AlphaRevX, then the OTA update could also wipe out your S-OFF HBoot.
tpbklake said:
With previous HTC models, trying to install an OTA update with a custom recovery installed will fail. You would need to flash the 2.12 recovery image in order to install the OTA, which will wipe out your custom recovery and unroot your phone.
If you achieved S-OFF by using AlphaRevX, then the OTA update could also wipe out your S-OFF HBoot.
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Well, it makes sens, but i just wanted to be sure.
I havn't heard about this OTA update before so i was a little surprised it was there.
jkolner said:
Well, it makes sens, but i just wanted to be sure.
I havn't heard about this OTA update before so i was a little surprised it was there.
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The RUU was posted this weekend so I downloaded, but the link appears to be broken now. I was trying to decide if this was an 'official' update or a 'leaked' test ROM, but since you got an OTA notification for it, then this must be an official RUU.
The ROM is still Android 2.3.3 with Sense 2.1 (I think people were hoping for 2.3.4 and Sense 3.0) and has the same HBOOT version 1.13 as 2.12 does. There have been some posts about people applying this RUU and then attempting to run AlphaRevX again to gain S-OFF, but it appears that no one has been able to regain S-OFF after running the RUU.
No way to root this RUU (confirmed bu alpharevx devs).
Same HBOOT but the "hole" is closed.
What about the XTC clips, i hope it still can S-OFF.
Hello, Iam noob in rooting and there is sooo much information about that, so my head goes burn, my simple question is only - can you recommend me the most easiest way to root my Incredible S? I want to install new ROM. Version Hboot 2.00, android 2.3.5 and never S-OFF, rooted. I have to downgrade HBOOT? Thank you so much
Oh look it's first sticky on the forum! Just a simple read through the first page of the forum might help just sayin'.
Anyways, this seems to be the easiest way to root...it's definitely easy to understand even if you have few to minimum understanding of rooting and flashing.
Incredible2011 said:
Oh look it's first sticky on the forum! Just a simple read through the first page of the forum might help just sayin'.
Anyways, this seems to be the easiest way to root...it's definitely easy to understand even if you have few to minimum understanding of rooting and flashing.
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I have problem and I hope you can help me my question:My phone is s off,but I have never use custom recovery and custom rom and I have never do root,my version is 2.3.5 hboot:2.0000 I want to root my phone but I dont want to do that with unlocked method.How can I root my phone,I say again My phone is already s off.and I wantto use this method.
hasi56 said:
I have problem and I hope you can help me my question:My phone is s off,but I have never use custom recovery and custom rom and I have never do root,my version is 2.3.5 hboot:2.0000 I want to root my phone but I dont want to do that with unlocked method.How can I root my phone,I say again My phone is already s off.and I wantto use this method.
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Since you are already S-OFF, then you should be able to flash ClockworkMod recovery in FASTBOOT USB mode. Once you have CWM installed, you can make a 'nandroid' backup of your current ROM, apps and settings. Then you can flash the latest and greatest version of su-3.0.x.zip to gain root.
This will leave your current ROM, apps and settings intact.
tpbklake said:
Since you are already S-OFF, then you should be able to flash ClockworkMod recovery in FASTBOOT USB mode. Once you have CWM installed, you can make a 'nandroid' backup of your current ROM, apps and settings. Then you can flash the latest and greatest version of su-3.0.x.zip to gain root.
This will leave your current ROM, apps and settings intact.
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Thank you,so I can root my phone with any expression(s off method) even though my phone h boot version is 2.ooooo(but my phone is already s off) am I right? and I dont understand,is there new root old root advantageous root,I havent heard that,I knew rooting is fixed
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hasi56 said:
Thank you,so I can root my phone with any expression(s off method) even though my phone h boot version is 2.ooooo(but my phone is already s off) am I right? and I dont understand,is there new root old root advantageous root,I havent heard that,I knew rooting is fixed
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Since you have permanent S-OFF, you don't have to worry about whether to unlock HBOOT 2.00.0000 or downgrading to run Revolutionary, etc.
You should be able to flash ClockworkMod recovery, you could flash HBOOT 1.13, flash a new radio, etc.
You just need to get familiar with using FASTBOOT USB mode and all of the options that fastboot.exe can do.
I am speaking from experience. I have a permanent S-OFF IncS and even after I run the Android 2.3.5/Sense 3.0 RUU and it upgraded my HBOOT to version 2.00.0000, I was able to flash ClockworkMod recovery and install su-3.0.x.zip and root the ROM. I have also since reflashed back to HBOOT 1.13.
tpbklake said:
Since you have permanent S-OFF, you don't have to worry about whether to unlock HBOOT 2.00.0000 or downgrading to run Revolutionary, etc.
You should be able to flash ClockworkMod recovery, you could flash HBOOT 1.13, flash a new radio, etc.
You just need to get familiar with using FASTBOOT USB mode and all of the options that fastboot.exe can do.
I am speaking from experience. I have a permanent S-OFF IncS and even after I run the Android 2.3.5/Sense 3.0 RUU and it upgraded my HBOOT to version 2.00.0000, I was able to flash ClockworkMod recovery and install su-3.0.x.zip and root the ROM. I have also since reflashed back to HBOOT 1.13.
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I understanda a lot of thingss Im grateful to you,but you said you could flash hboot 1.13 what is our purpose by doing this processing?
hasi56 said:
I understanda a lot of thingss Im grateful to you,but you said you could flash hboot 1.13 what is our purpose by doing this processing?
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With HBOOT 1.13, ClockworkMod recovery is able to flash a custom ROM in one step. With HBOOT 2.00.0000, after you flash a custom ROM in ClockworkMod, you manually have to extract and flash the boot.img file in the custom ROM's zip file. In other words it is easier to flash custom ROM's with CWM and HBOOT 1.13 than it is with HBOOT 2.00
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With HBOOT 1.13, ClockworkMod recovery is able to flash a custom ROM in one step. With HBOOT 2.00.0000, after you flash a custom ROM in ClockworkMod, you manually have to extract and flash the boot.img file in the custom ROM's zip file. In other words it is easier to flash custom ROM's with CWM and HBOOT 1.13 than it is with HBOOT 2.00
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Thank you very very much,apolgize me i have one more question i want ti root my cell phone after ics.can i do same thing your root Expression after ics ?
hasi56 said:
Thank you very very much,apolgize me i have one more question i want ti root my cell phone after ics.can i do same thing your root Expression after ics ?
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The only option you have right now for ICS is to run a custom ROM from the Development section and all of those are already rooted.
If you are talking about the official ICS OTA/ROM from HTC, we will have to wait and see if it will be rootable or not.
Once again since you have a permanent S-OFF on your phone, you shouldn't have to worry about. If you install the official ICS ROM and you lose root, you should be able to reflash CWM and then install su-3.0.x.zip to gain root.
tpbklake said:
The only option you have right now for ICS is to run a custom ROM from the Development section and all of those are already rooted.
If you are talking about the official ICS OTA/ROM from HTC, we will have to wait and see if it will be rootable or not.
Once again since you have a permanent S-OFF on your phone, you shouldn't have to worry about. If you install the official ICS ROM and you lose root, you should be able to reflash CWM and then install su-3.0.x.zip to gain root.
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Thank you very very very much,you helped me a lot,
My phone is htc inc s,i use original rom,but i did root i bought a new sensation xe's beats audio headphones and i want tk use beats mod in my phone when i use headphone like sensation xe,is this imposibble i hop i can tell my question
hasi56 said:
My phone is s off,but I have never use custom recovery and custom rom and I have never do root,my version is 2.3.5 hboot:2.0000
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Stupid question, how did you achieve s-off with hboot:2.0000? As I understand, Revolutionary doesn't yet support hboot:2.0000?
alexbk66 said:
Stupid question, how did you achieve s-off with hboot:2.0000? As I understand, Revolutionary doesn't yet support hboot:2.0000?
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No a stupid question because the answer isn't very obvious, but the is a sticky post in the General forum that describes a process where you can downgrade the ROM and HBOOT to a version that Revolutionary does support.
Check here:
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=1373697
or here:
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=1705913
Hi guys, Im running the stock ICS with sense 3.6 with s-on and hboot 2.02.0002. Is there anyway i can get it to be s-offed so i may flash it to other roms in the future?
Use my guide in the development section, its called All in One guide for noobs
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FallenSuisydal said:
Use my guide in the development section, its called All in One guide for noobs
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Worked a charm for me, follow all the steps carefully and you shouldn't have a problem!
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brokenlovez said:
Hi guys, Im running the stock ICS with sense 3.6 with s-on and hboot 2.02.0002. Is there anyway i can get it to be s-offed so i may flash it to other roms in the future?
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me too .... Some body help me (
lorian123 said:
me too .... Some body help me (
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Did you read posts 2 & 3 in this thread?
Post 2 tells you where to find the procedure to use. Search in the Development section and also check out the sticky posts that are in this General section.
Downgrade from 2.02.0002 not 2.00
brokenlovez said:
Hi guys, Im running the stock ICS with sense 3.6 with s-on and hboot 2.02.0002. Is there anyway i can get it to be s-offed so i may flash it to other roms in the future?
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Original poster, did you get this to work ?
I am trying to downgrade from 2.02.0002 and get the following when running the RUU process:-
"THE ROM UPDATE UTILITY CANNOT UPDATE YOUR ANDROID PHONE"
"PLEASE GET THE CORRECT ROM UPDATE UTILITY AND TRY AGAIN"
I notice you are on 2.02.0002 the same, but the link to 'All in One Noob Guide For Downgrade and S Off' actually says 2.00 and not 2.02.
Just wondering if you got the same issue as me and the poster who mentioned the link didnt see you said 2.02.
Thanks
Regards
Nigel
nigie said:
Original poster, did you get this to work ?
I am trying to downgrade from 2.02.0002 and get the following when running the RUU process:-
"THE ROM UPDATE UTILITY CANNOT UPDATE YOUR ANDROID PHONE"
"PLEASE GET THE CORRECT ROM UPDATE UTILITY AND TRY AGAIN"
I notice you are on 2.02.0002 the same, but the link to 'All in One Noob Guide For Downgrade and S Off' actually says 2.00 and not 2.02.
Just wondering if you got the same issue as me and the poster who mentioned the link didnt see you said 2.02.
Thanks
Regards
Nigel
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I was working with a user this week that was trying to use the script to downgrade HBOOT 2.02.0002 and it appears that the tacoroot exploit to get temp root does not work on HBOOT 2.02.0002, so the script is unable to run misc_version to change the mainver value to 2.00.0000, so therefore it will not work at the moment for a stock, unrooted phone.
You would have to resort to unlocking the bootloader at HTCDEV.com, install a custom recovery and then root the ROM in order to use the downgrade and gain S-OFF.
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You would have to resort to unlocking the bootloader at HTCDEV.com, install a custom recovery and then root the ROM in order to use the downgrade and gain S-OFF.
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I have used HTCDEV.com to unlock the bootloader, but how can I flash the recovery without root privileges? I have try unsucessfully with 4EXT Recovery Control
tpbklake said:
I was working with a user this week that was trying to use the script to downgrade HBOOT 2.02.0002 and it appears that the tacoroot exploit to get temp root does not work on HBOOT 2.02.0002, so the script is unable to run misc_version to change the mainver value to 2.00.0000, so therefore it will not work at the moment for a stock, unrooted phone.
You would have to resort to unlocking the bootloader at HTCDEV.com, install a custom recovery and then root the ROM in order to use the downgrade and gain S-OFF.
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gialandra said:
I have used HTCDEV.com to unlock the bootloader, but how can I flash the recovery without root privileges? I have try unsucessfully with 4EXT Recovery Control
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Next step: I have used this post to flash the recovery and install the
su-3.0-efgh-signed.zip to gain the root access but S- remains ON
gialandra said:
I have used HTCDEV.com to unlock the bootloader, but how can I flash the recovery without root privileges? I have try unsucessfully with 4EXT Recovery Control
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To flash recovery from 4ext recovery control, you need s-off. You will have to do the manual way, by entering this command 'fastboot flash recovery recovery.img'.
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gialandra said:
Next step: I have used this post to flash the recovery and install the
su-3.0-efgh-signed.zip to gain the root access but S- remains ON
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Root doesn't change s-on/off status.
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zukri90 said:
Root doesn't change s-on/off status.
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Really, this modding is like to exit from a maze ... have you suggestions?
gialandra said:
Really, this modding is like to exit from a maze ... have you suggestions?
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If you have HBOOT 2.02.0002 and you unlock using HTCDEV.com you will be able to:
1. Flash a custom recovery.
2. Once you have a custom recovery you will be able to:
A. Root your current ROM by installing SU-3.1.3.zip
B. Flash a custom, rooted ROM.
So I believe that should answer your questions. You may now exit the maze.
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If you have HBOOT 2.02.0002 and you unlock using HTCDEV.com you will be able to:
1. Flash a custom recovery.
2. Once you have a custom recovery you will be able to:
A. Root your current ROM by installing SU-3.1.3.zip
B. Flash a custom, rooted ROM.
So I believe that should answer your questions. You may now exit the maze.
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Yes, I install the WE WANT ICS v4 ROM and now I have the root permission
At this point, what mean S-ON / S-OFF and what permits?
gialandra said:
Yes, I install the WE WANT ICS v4 ROM and now I have the root permission
At this point, what mean S-ON / S-OFF and what permits?
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S-ON/S-OFF is used to reference the Security flag setting in the phone. If you have Security Off, then you can flash almost everything to your phone, including a new radio.
With an unlocked bootloader like you have, you can flash some of the same items as S-OFF with the 2 biggest exceptions being:
1. You cannot flash a new radio.
2. The boot partition is not mounted as R/W when in Recovery mode, thus the reason you manually have to flash the boot.img while in FASTBOOT USB mode.
Hey guys I am very new to this stuff and I just got 3 small quick questions.
I want to flash to a stock version of ICS specifially this one "RUU_VIVO_ICS_35_S_TWM_TW_4.10.921.1_Radio_20.74.30.0833U_3831.18.00.11_M_release_266252_signed"
As of now I am S-off and I have CW recovery boot and I am rooted
The Current rom I have is Ice Cold Sandwich "http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=1508435"
My Questions are:
1.) What will I lose? aside from the obvious data root etc..Will I lose my CW recovery booter? and S-Off?
2.) Is this worth it ? I mean how different is Icecold from the real ICS
3.) Is there a way so I dont lose root and the option to boot into recovery?
Thanks alot and sorry for the noob questions !!:laugh::good:
Nanafy said:
Hey guys I am very new to this stuff and I just got 3 small quick questions.
I want to flash to a stock version of ICS specifially this one "RUU_VIVO_ICS_35_S_TWM_TW_4.10.921.1_Radio_20.74.30.0833U_3831.18.00.11_M_release_266252_signed"
As of now I am S-off and I have CW recovery boot and I am rooted
The Current rom I have is Ice Cold Sandwich "http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=1508435"
My Questions are:
1.) What will I lose? aside from the obvious data root etc..Will I lose my CW recovery booter? and S-Off?
2.) Is this worth it ? I mean how different is Icecold from the real ICS
3.) Is there a way so I dont lose root and the option to boot into recovery?
Thanks alot and sorry for the noob questions !!:laugh::good:
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If you are S-OFF by using the Revolutionary.io procedure and your HBOOT is versoin 6.13.1000 then you will not be able to successfully flash the ICS RUU. The Revolutionary HBOOT is designed to prevent itself from being overwritten and causing you to lose S-OFF.
In the Development section there are 2 ICS ROMs that are pre-rooted and built from the official ICS RUUs. One is built from the 4.10.405.1 WWE RUU and the other is built from the 4.10.707.1 RUU. Both can be flashed from CWM recovery and will not cause you to lose S-OFF. Both of these ROMs will require you to upgrade your S-OFF HBOOT from Revolutionary to BlackRose 2.02.0002.
Another option which will work prefectly with your current setup is mike1986's ARHD 3.01. This ROM is also built from the 4.10.405.1 WWE RUU but mike has updated the ROM with the latest versions of the apps.
So in summary, if you are S-OFF with Revolutionary and CWM then stay away from the official ICS RUU and stick with the custom ROMs.
Hi everyone i am newbie in the root process....i have unlock my HTC Incredible S and my HBoot 2.00+ with S-ON. So what should i do to S-Off to root my phone? Should i downgrade the HBoot version 1st to make the root process? If i just want get the root permission only did i need to flash ROM ?
woon83 said:
Hi everyone i am newbie in the root process....i have unlock my HTC Incredible S and my HBoot 2.00+ with S-ON. So what should i do to S-Off to root my phone? Should i downgrade the HBoot version 1st to make the root process? If i just want get the root permission only did i need to flash ROM ?
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You need to start by reading the STICKY posts in the General and Development sections. These are the first posts you will see in each section.
If you just want to root your current ROM, you are now in position to install a custom recovery and then you can flash Superuser-3.0.7-efghi-signed.zip to gain root access.
Normally the HTC Incredible S ROMs are rooted.. For steps to flash a new ROM, you can use the following steps:. You don't need to downgrade you HBOOT (new models have 2.0).
http://forum.xda-developers.com/show....php?t=1337105
woon83 said:
Hi everyone i am newbie in the root process....i have unlock my HTC Incredible S and my HBoot 2.00+ with S-ON. So what should i do to S-Off to root my phone? Should i downgrade the HBoot version 1st to make the root process? If i just want get the root permission only did i need to flash ROM ?
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