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Hello,
I just received my Incredible S yesterday, and after some searching around, I've finally found the guide to root it on this forum.
I'm going to use the guide, but as a new rooter (only rooted an HTC Desire), I have a few questions regarding this specific phone.
My phone is currently s-on, and I'm going to follow the guide to get to s-off mode. However, does it matter that I'm only running 2.2.1? Am I still able to root?
Also, when does s-on get activated again? Only wen I go back to a retail ROM?
And, this is a total noob question...Am I able to use the Recovery ROM on one memory card (an 8GB), go through the root process and then switch to a 16GB card to install a custom ROM?
Thanks.
1. alpharevx works for both Gingerbread (2.3) and Froyo (2.2)
2. If you flash an official ROM (you can find them in a collection thread somewhere here on xda) you'll go back to S-ON.
3. After you've "installed" the custom recovery, it doesn't matter how many times you change SD-card; the custom recovery will still be there since you flash it over the original recovery.
Short answer; Yes, you can use a different SD-card to install a custom ROM from!
OK, just found this information in the ROM that I want to use...
HTC Incredible S S-OFF
Radio S-OFF in order to flash new radio
ClockworkMod Recovery with EXT4 support from here
Does using AlphaRevX put the radio into s-off mode?
tazz131 said:
OK, just found this information in the ROM that I want to use...
HTC Incredible S S-OFF
Radio S-OFF in order to flash new radio
ClockworkMod Recovery with EXT4 support from here
Does using AlphaRevX put the radio into s-off mode?
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I've been searching the forums, but I can't find anything about that...
I'd like to know how to find out if your radio is S-OFF or S-ON. Or is radio S-OFF the same as HBoot S-OFF (which you get by using alpharevx)?
Sometimes I have to say it's a bit hard to find info about some things for he IncS
alpharevx s-off is sufficient...you don't have to do a special radio s-off..I'm already running Android Revolution HD 1.1.0
edit: even I didn't find anything specific about radio s-off
jaysonline said:
alpharevx s-off is sufficient...you don't have to do a special radio s-off..I'm already running Android Revolution HD 1.1.0
edit: even I didn't find anything specific about radio s-off
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Me neither, that's why I'm starting to get confused about the "what you need" part of ARHD forum topic...
And since it works for you, I guess what he means with "Radio S-OFF" is that you should flash that radio he recommends to use with his ROM, or does he know something that no one else on this forum knows?
Yes, I think that's what he means unless ofcourse he has some secrets
hey, i am new to this all this root and stuff...
just few question.
so, the s-ff in hdboot mean the phone is rootable?
and the Radio S-OFF means i can use any carrier I chose?
thank you :]
eqao said:
hey, i am new to this all this root and stuff...
just few question.
so, the s-ff in hdboot mean the phone is rootable?
and the Radio S-OFF means i can use any carrier I chose?
thank you :]
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s-off yes you can root your phone
radio s-off to use any carrier? i think you need to unlock your phone if it is for you to be able to use any carrier
radio s-off mean you can flash new radio versions
Hello, Iam noob in rooting and there is sooo much information about that, so my head goes burn, my simple question is only - can you recommend me the most easiest way to root my Incredible S? I want to install new ROM. Version Hboot 2.00, android 2.3.5 and never S-OFF, rooted. I have to downgrade HBOOT? Thank you so much
Oh look it's first sticky on the forum! Just a simple read through the first page of the forum might help just sayin'.
Anyways, this seems to be the easiest way to root...it's definitely easy to understand even if you have few to minimum understanding of rooting and flashing.
Incredible2011 said:
Oh look it's first sticky on the forum! Just a simple read through the first page of the forum might help just sayin'.
Anyways, this seems to be the easiest way to root...it's definitely easy to understand even if you have few to minimum understanding of rooting and flashing.
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I have problem and I hope you can help me my question:My phone is s off,but I have never use custom recovery and custom rom and I have never do root,my version is 2.3.5 hboot:2.0000 I want to root my phone but I dont want to do that with unlocked method.How can I root my phone,I say again My phone is already s off.and I wantto use this method.
hasi56 said:
I have problem and I hope you can help me my question:My phone is s off,but I have never use custom recovery and custom rom and I have never do root,my version is 2.3.5 hboot:2.0000 I want to root my phone but I dont want to do that with unlocked method.How can I root my phone,I say again My phone is already s off.and I wantto use this method.
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Since you are already S-OFF, then you should be able to flash ClockworkMod recovery in FASTBOOT USB mode. Once you have CWM installed, you can make a 'nandroid' backup of your current ROM, apps and settings. Then you can flash the latest and greatest version of su-3.0.x.zip to gain root.
This will leave your current ROM, apps and settings intact.
tpbklake said:
Since you are already S-OFF, then you should be able to flash ClockworkMod recovery in FASTBOOT USB mode. Once you have CWM installed, you can make a 'nandroid' backup of your current ROM, apps and settings. Then you can flash the latest and greatest version of su-3.0.x.zip to gain root.
This will leave your current ROM, apps and settings intact.
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Thank you,so I can root my phone with any expression(s off method) even though my phone h boot version is 2.ooooo(but my phone is already s off) am I right? and I dont understand,is there new root old root advantageous root,I havent heard that,I knew rooting is fixed
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hasi56 said:
Thank you,so I can root my phone with any expression(s off method) even though my phone h boot version is 2.ooooo(but my phone is already s off) am I right? and I dont understand,is there new root old root advantageous root,I havent heard that,I knew rooting is fixed
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Since you have permanent S-OFF, you don't have to worry about whether to unlock HBOOT 2.00.0000 or downgrading to run Revolutionary, etc.
You should be able to flash ClockworkMod recovery, you could flash HBOOT 1.13, flash a new radio, etc.
You just need to get familiar with using FASTBOOT USB mode and all of the options that fastboot.exe can do.
I am speaking from experience. I have a permanent S-OFF IncS and even after I run the Android 2.3.5/Sense 3.0 RUU and it upgraded my HBOOT to version 2.00.0000, I was able to flash ClockworkMod recovery and install su-3.0.x.zip and root the ROM. I have also since reflashed back to HBOOT 1.13.
tpbklake said:
Since you have permanent S-OFF, you don't have to worry about whether to unlock HBOOT 2.00.0000 or downgrading to run Revolutionary, etc.
You should be able to flash ClockworkMod recovery, you could flash HBOOT 1.13, flash a new radio, etc.
You just need to get familiar with using FASTBOOT USB mode and all of the options that fastboot.exe can do.
I am speaking from experience. I have a permanent S-OFF IncS and even after I run the Android 2.3.5/Sense 3.0 RUU and it upgraded my HBOOT to version 2.00.0000, I was able to flash ClockworkMod recovery and install su-3.0.x.zip and root the ROM. I have also since reflashed back to HBOOT 1.13.
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I understanda a lot of thingss Im grateful to you,but you said you could flash hboot 1.13 what is our purpose by doing this processing?
hasi56 said:
I understanda a lot of thingss Im grateful to you,but you said you could flash hboot 1.13 what is our purpose by doing this processing?
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With HBOOT 1.13, ClockworkMod recovery is able to flash a custom ROM in one step. With HBOOT 2.00.0000, after you flash a custom ROM in ClockworkMod, you manually have to extract and flash the boot.img file in the custom ROM's zip file. In other words it is easier to flash custom ROM's with CWM and HBOOT 1.13 than it is with HBOOT 2.00
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With HBOOT 1.13, ClockworkMod recovery is able to flash a custom ROM in one step. With HBOOT 2.00.0000, after you flash a custom ROM in ClockworkMod, you manually have to extract and flash the boot.img file in the custom ROM's zip file. In other words it is easier to flash custom ROM's with CWM and HBOOT 1.13 than it is with HBOOT 2.00
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Thank you very very much,apolgize me i have one more question i want ti root my cell phone after ics.can i do same thing your root Expression after ics ?
hasi56 said:
Thank you very very much,apolgize me i have one more question i want ti root my cell phone after ics.can i do same thing your root Expression after ics ?
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The only option you have right now for ICS is to run a custom ROM from the Development section and all of those are already rooted.
If you are talking about the official ICS OTA/ROM from HTC, we will have to wait and see if it will be rootable or not.
Once again since you have a permanent S-OFF on your phone, you shouldn't have to worry about. If you install the official ICS ROM and you lose root, you should be able to reflash CWM and then install su-3.0.x.zip to gain root.
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The only option you have right now for ICS is to run a custom ROM from the Development section and all of those are already rooted.
If you are talking about the official ICS OTA/ROM from HTC, we will have to wait and see if it will be rootable or not.
Once again since you have a permanent S-OFF on your phone, you shouldn't have to worry about. If you install the official ICS ROM and you lose root, you should be able to reflash CWM and then install su-3.0.x.zip to gain root.
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Thank you very very very much,you helped me a lot,
My phone is htc inc s,i use original rom,but i did root i bought a new sensation xe's beats audio headphones and i want tk use beats mod in my phone when i use headphone like sensation xe,is this imposibble i hop i can tell my question
hasi56 said:
My phone is s off,but I have never use custom recovery and custom rom and I have never do root,my version is 2.3.5 hboot:2.0000
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Stupid question, how did you achieve s-off with hboot:2.0000? As I understand, Revolutionary doesn't yet support hboot:2.0000?
alexbk66 said:
Stupid question, how did you achieve s-off with hboot:2.0000? As I understand, Revolutionary doesn't yet support hboot:2.0000?
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No a stupid question because the answer isn't very obvious, but the is a sticky post in the General forum that describes a process where you can downgrade the ROM and HBOOT to a version that Revolutionary does support.
Check here:
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=1373697
or here:
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=1705913
Hi Guys,
I need to know few things.
I have hboot 2.000 and I want to flash some mods and more over NIk's ROM.
So I know to flash mods and Nik's Rom I don't need to S-OFF my phone.
Now what I want to know is that do i need to downgrade my hboot or 2.0 hboot can be unlocked and rooted itself.
So please tell me what can be done all n all what I want is that I want to receive the OTA updates on my phone and don't want to void warranty.
Please help.
mohitgalaxy3 said:
Hi Guys,
I need to know few things.
I have hboot 2.000 and I want to flash some mods and more over NIk's ROM.
So I know to flash mods and Nik's Rom I don't need to S-OFF my phone.
Now what I want to know is that do i need to downgrade my hboot or 2.0 hboot can be unlocked and rooted itself.
So please tell me what can be done all n all what I want is that I want to receive the OTA updates on my phone and don't want to void warranty.
Please help.
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If you end up installing Nik's ROM , then you will not get OTA updates. If you are looking to not void your warranty, then downgrading your hboot and using Revolutionary is the safer of your 2 options. If you use HTCDEV.com to unlock your bootloader, HTC will know that you have modded your phone and in fact you must acknowledge to them that you are modding your phone.
With Revolutionary S-OFF as long as your phone is operational and you can get into HBOOT, then you could return to stock for warranty purposes.
tpbklake said:
If you end up installing Nik's ROM , then you will not get OTA updates. If you are looking to not void your warranty, then downgrading your hboot and using Revolutionary is the safer of your 2 options. If you use HTCDEV.com to unlock your bootloader, HTC will know that you have modded your phone and in fact you must acknowledge to them that you are modding your phone.
With Revolutionary S-OFF as long as your phone is operational and you can get into HBOOT, then you could return to stock for warranty purposes.
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Thanks man and If I only want to install CWM then even I have to do S-OFF and downgrade my Hboot.
Just One more thing that If I downgrade my HBoot then I get the ICS OTA update or not?
mohitgalaxy3 said:
Thanks man and If I only want to install CWM then even I have to do S-OFF and downgrade my Hboot.
Just One more thing that If I downgrade my HBoot then I get the ICS OTA update or not?
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No on the OTA because during the downgrade process you will be installing an older RUU/ROM and you will end up with a phone that has a custom HBOOT image and a custom Recovery image, so you won't be able to take the ICS OTA.
tpbklake said:
No on the OTA because during the downgrade process you will be installing an older RUU/ROM and you will end up with a phone that has a custom HBOOT image and a custom Recovery image, so you won't be able to take the ICS OTA.
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Hmm, So there is no way to unlock HBoot 2.0 without downgrade.
and even if I downgrade after getting ICS then again I have to downgrade and have to lost the stock ICS ROM right??
Man there is no way that I just get the CWM & Root access without downgrading my HBoot??
mohitgalaxy3 said:
Hmm, So there is no way to unlock HBoot 2.0 without downgrade.
and even if I downgrade after getting ICS then again I have to downgrade and have to lost the stock ICS ROM right??
Man there is no way that I just get the CWM & Root access without downgrading my HBoot??
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Yes, you can unlock your HBOOT using the procedure at HTCDEV.com and then you can install CWM and root the ROM, but it will void your warranty.
mohitgalaxy3 said:
Hmm, So there is no way to unlock HBoot 2.0 without downgrade.
and even if I downgrade after getting ICS then again I have to downgrade and have to lost the stock ICS ROM right??
Man there is no way that I just get the CWM & Root access without downgrading my HBoot??
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Once the update is out we will have full working custom roms (I think we already do, sense 3.5 or 3.6, not too sure??) so no need to stress about the ota
Or wait for update, root phone and make a nandroid backup. You will then have a copy of your ota update.
fridgie said:
Once the update is out we will have full working custom roms (I think we already do, sense 3.5 or 3.6, not too sure??) so no need to stress about the ota
Or wait for update, root phone and make a nandroid backup. You will then have a copy of your ota update.
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But if I root it then I need to downgrade the HBOOT and it will change my ROM. right???
So how can I make a nandroid backup??
mohitgalaxy3 said:
But if I root it then I need to downgrade the HBOOT and it will change my ROM. right???
So how can I make a nandroid backup??
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here is a link to my new guide on how to do all of this:
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=1705913
I have a rooted IncS with s-off. There's a way to install an official release without revert to s-on and loosing root or recovery?
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I have a rooted IncS with s-off. There's a way to install an official release without revert to s-on and loosing root or recovery?
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How did you root and S-OFF? Did you use Revolutionary?
If so, then no you won't be able to run and install an official HTC release, but there are plenty of custom ROMs in the Development section.
Yes I used revolutionary.
I'm looking for a flat ROM like original because each modded rom add some features and tweaks so is far from original and contain bugs or unwanted features.
If you want to brick your phone you can install it.
The best rom install is http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=1756500
this link takes you to the rom, its the offical RUU.
It still allows you to still install other ROMs if you ever choose to.
Try ARHD 3.0. It's as close to stock as can be, rooted, and me & other users on the forum are running on revolutionary hBoot 6.xx. check my signature.
Sent from my HTC Incredible S
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Try ARHD 3.0. It's as close to stock as can be, rooted, and me & other users on the forum are running on revolutionary hBoot 6.xx. check my signature.
Sent from my HTC Incredible S
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Thank you I'll try the ARHD and next the We Want ICS :good:
bottosac said:
I have a rooted IncS with s-off. There's a way to install an official release without revert to s-on and loosing root or recovery?
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I also have rooted IncS with S-off with latest blackrose hboot and CWM recovery.. and last night I installed the official rom without loosing root and recovery.
You simply have to get the latest official rom "RUU_VIVO_ICS_35_S_HTC_WWE_4.10.405.1_Radio_20.74.3 0.0833U_3831.18.00.11_M_release_266013_signed.exe" and follow the steps mentioned in http://forum.xda-developers.com/showpost.php?p=18079795&postcount=1
I have a ViperVivo rom on my brothers phone but he is whining about freezing and slowing so I need to unroot s-on and restore stock rom.In brief i need to restore the phone to the beginning where it was untouched but i do not know how to do.
Following this guide http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=1137008 ,i downloaded clockworkmod, downgraded hboot to 1.13, i did S-OFF and flashed a custom rom.Now, how can I reset all these ? Thanks for the answers
KurtBlack said:
I have a ViperVivo rom on my brothers phone but he is whining about freezing and slowing so I need to unroot s-on and restore stock rom.In brief i need to restore the phone to the beginning where it was untouched but i do not know how to do.
Following this guide http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=1137008 ,i downloaded clockworkmod, downgraded hboot to 1.13, i did S-OFF and flashed a custom rom.Now, how can I reset all these ? Thanks for the answers
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My advice is to keep S-OFF and CWM and just flash this stock, rooted ROM.
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=1908187
It is based on the last official ICS ROM for the IncS. Or a better one to consider would be mike1986's ARHD which is based on the same ICS ROM but includes all of the most recent supporting application.
Thanks but is there a way that i can deactivate S-OFF and completely restore to the stock rom? I like the custom roms but he is blaming the root and custom roms for freezing and he is about to open a crack in my head
KurtBlack said:
Thanks but is there a way that i can deactivate S-OFF and completely restore to the stock rom? I like the custom roms but he is blaming the root and custom roms for freezing and he is about to open a crack in my head
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Root is the not the problem. Use either of the 2 rooted stock ROMs that I suggested and he should not have any lockup issues.
Otherwise, you will need to remove the Revolutionary S-OFF bootloader and replace it with a stock HTC bootloader before you could run an official HTC RUU to go completely stock. You will need to search this forum for the posts that document that procedure, but they are so old that some of the links that they reference may not be good anymore.
So again my advice would be to keep S-OFF and CWM and flash a stock, rooted ROM based on a HTC official IncS RUU.