Hi Guys,
I need to know few things.
I have hboot 2.000 and I want to flash some mods and more over NIk's ROM.
So I know to flash mods and Nik's Rom I don't need to S-OFF my phone.
Now what I want to know is that do i need to downgrade my hboot or 2.0 hboot can be unlocked and rooted itself.
So please tell me what can be done all n all what I want is that I want to receive the OTA updates on my phone and don't want to void warranty.
Please help.
mohitgalaxy3 said:
Hi Guys,
I need to know few things.
I have hboot 2.000 and I want to flash some mods and more over NIk's ROM.
So I know to flash mods and Nik's Rom I don't need to S-OFF my phone.
Now what I want to know is that do i need to downgrade my hboot or 2.0 hboot can be unlocked and rooted itself.
So please tell me what can be done all n all what I want is that I want to receive the OTA updates on my phone and don't want to void warranty.
Please help.
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If you end up installing Nik's ROM , then you will not get OTA updates. If you are looking to not void your warranty, then downgrading your hboot and using Revolutionary is the safer of your 2 options. If you use HTCDEV.com to unlock your bootloader, HTC will know that you have modded your phone and in fact you must acknowledge to them that you are modding your phone.
With Revolutionary S-OFF as long as your phone is operational and you can get into HBOOT, then you could return to stock for warranty purposes.
tpbklake said:
If you end up installing Nik's ROM , then you will not get OTA updates. If you are looking to not void your warranty, then downgrading your hboot and using Revolutionary is the safer of your 2 options. If you use HTCDEV.com to unlock your bootloader, HTC will know that you have modded your phone and in fact you must acknowledge to them that you are modding your phone.
With Revolutionary S-OFF as long as your phone is operational and you can get into HBOOT, then you could return to stock for warranty purposes.
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Thanks man and If I only want to install CWM then even I have to do S-OFF and downgrade my Hboot.
Just One more thing that If I downgrade my HBoot then I get the ICS OTA update or not?
mohitgalaxy3 said:
Thanks man and If I only want to install CWM then even I have to do S-OFF and downgrade my Hboot.
Just One more thing that If I downgrade my HBoot then I get the ICS OTA update or not?
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No on the OTA because during the downgrade process you will be installing an older RUU/ROM and you will end up with a phone that has a custom HBOOT image and a custom Recovery image, so you won't be able to take the ICS OTA.
tpbklake said:
No on the OTA because during the downgrade process you will be installing an older RUU/ROM and you will end up with a phone that has a custom HBOOT image and a custom Recovery image, so you won't be able to take the ICS OTA.
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Hmm, So there is no way to unlock HBoot 2.0 without downgrade.
and even if I downgrade after getting ICS then again I have to downgrade and have to lost the stock ICS ROM right??
Man there is no way that I just get the CWM & Root access without downgrading my HBoot??
mohitgalaxy3 said:
Hmm, So there is no way to unlock HBoot 2.0 without downgrade.
and even if I downgrade after getting ICS then again I have to downgrade and have to lost the stock ICS ROM right??
Man there is no way that I just get the CWM & Root access without downgrading my HBoot??
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Yes, you can unlock your HBOOT using the procedure at HTCDEV.com and then you can install CWM and root the ROM, but it will void your warranty.
mohitgalaxy3 said:
Hmm, So there is no way to unlock HBoot 2.0 without downgrade.
and even if I downgrade after getting ICS then again I have to downgrade and have to lost the stock ICS ROM right??
Man there is no way that I just get the CWM & Root access without downgrading my HBoot??
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Once the update is out we will have full working custom roms (I think we already do, sense 3.5 or 3.6, not too sure??) so no need to stress about the ota
Or wait for update, root phone and make a nandroid backup. You will then have a copy of your ota update.
fridgie said:
Once the update is out we will have full working custom roms (I think we already do, sense 3.5 or 3.6, not too sure??) so no need to stress about the ota
Or wait for update, root phone and make a nandroid backup. You will then have a copy of your ota update.
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But if I root it then I need to downgrade the HBOOT and it will change my ROM. right???
So how can I make a nandroid backup??
mohitgalaxy3 said:
But if I root it then I need to downgrade the HBOOT and it will change my ROM. right???
So how can I make a nandroid backup??
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here is a link to my new guide on how to do all of this:
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=1705913
Related
Im qurently testing different ROM's and at the moment im using the stock Gingerbread ROM (2.12.405.7) and the phone is S-OFF and Rooted.
But when i made a check for software update from "Settings -> About phone" there was a update availebel with the version 2.30.405.1.
Does installing this update change S-OFF to S-ON or change anything to the ROOT of my phone?
I havn't been able to find anythng about this update, so does anybody have any info about it?
Sorry...
Just did a search in the Dev forum and found this thread.
jkolner said:
Im qurently testing different ROM's and at the moment im using the stock Gingerbread ROM (2.12.405.7) and the phone is S-OFF and Rooted.
But when i made a check for software update from "Settings -> About phone" there was a update availebel with the version 2.30.405.1.
Does installing this update change S-OFF to S-ON or change anything to the ROOT of my phone?
I havn't been able to find anythng about this update, so does anybody have any info about it?
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With previous HTC models, trying to install an OTA update with a custom recovery installed will fail. You would need to flash the 2.12 recovery image in order to install the OTA, which will wipe out your custom recovery and unroot your phone.
If you achieved S-OFF by using AlphaRevX, then the OTA update could also wipe out your S-OFF HBoot.
tpbklake said:
With previous HTC models, trying to install an OTA update with a custom recovery installed will fail. You would need to flash the 2.12 recovery image in order to install the OTA, which will wipe out your custom recovery and unroot your phone.
If you achieved S-OFF by using AlphaRevX, then the OTA update could also wipe out your S-OFF HBoot.
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Well, it makes sens, but i just wanted to be sure.
I havn't heard about this OTA update before so i was a little surprised it was there.
jkolner said:
Well, it makes sens, but i just wanted to be sure.
I havn't heard about this OTA update before so i was a little surprised it was there.
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The RUU was posted this weekend so I downloaded, but the link appears to be broken now. I was trying to decide if this was an 'official' update or a 'leaked' test ROM, but since you got an OTA notification for it, then this must be an official RUU.
The ROM is still Android 2.3.3 with Sense 2.1 (I think people were hoping for 2.3.4 and Sense 3.0) and has the same HBOOT version 1.13 as 2.12 does. There have been some posts about people applying this RUU and then attempting to run AlphaRevX again to gain S-OFF, but it appears that no one has been able to regain S-OFF after running the RUU.
No way to root this RUU (confirmed bu alpharevx devs).
Same HBOOT but the "hole" is closed.
What about the XTC clips, i hope it still can S-OFF.
Hello, Iam noob in rooting and there is sooo much information about that, so my head goes burn, my simple question is only - can you recommend me the most easiest way to root my Incredible S? I want to install new ROM. Version Hboot 2.00, android 2.3.5 and never S-OFF, rooted. I have to downgrade HBOOT? Thank you so much
Oh look it's first sticky on the forum! Just a simple read through the first page of the forum might help just sayin'.
Anyways, this seems to be the easiest way to root...it's definitely easy to understand even if you have few to minimum understanding of rooting and flashing.
Incredible2011 said:
Oh look it's first sticky on the forum! Just a simple read through the first page of the forum might help just sayin'.
Anyways, this seems to be the easiest way to root...it's definitely easy to understand even if you have few to minimum understanding of rooting and flashing.
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I have problem and I hope you can help me my question:My phone is s off,but I have never use custom recovery and custom rom and I have never do root,my version is 2.3.5 hboot:2.0000 I want to root my phone but I dont want to do that with unlocked method.How can I root my phone,I say again My phone is already s off.and I wantto use this method.
hasi56 said:
I have problem and I hope you can help me my question:My phone is s off,but I have never use custom recovery and custom rom and I have never do root,my version is 2.3.5 hboot:2.0000 I want to root my phone but I dont want to do that with unlocked method.How can I root my phone,I say again My phone is already s off.and I wantto use this method.
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Since you are already S-OFF, then you should be able to flash ClockworkMod recovery in FASTBOOT USB mode. Once you have CWM installed, you can make a 'nandroid' backup of your current ROM, apps and settings. Then you can flash the latest and greatest version of su-3.0.x.zip to gain root.
This will leave your current ROM, apps and settings intact.
tpbklake said:
Since you are already S-OFF, then you should be able to flash ClockworkMod recovery in FASTBOOT USB mode. Once you have CWM installed, you can make a 'nandroid' backup of your current ROM, apps and settings. Then you can flash the latest and greatest version of su-3.0.x.zip to gain root.
This will leave your current ROM, apps and settings intact.
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Thank you,so I can root my phone with any expression(s off method) even though my phone h boot version is 2.ooooo(but my phone is already s off) am I right? and I dont understand,is there new root old root advantageous root,I havent heard that,I knew rooting is fixed
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hasi56 said:
Thank you,so I can root my phone with any expression(s off method) even though my phone h boot version is 2.ooooo(but my phone is already s off) am I right? and I dont understand,is there new root old root advantageous root,I havent heard that,I knew rooting is fixed
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Since you have permanent S-OFF, you don't have to worry about whether to unlock HBOOT 2.00.0000 or downgrading to run Revolutionary, etc.
You should be able to flash ClockworkMod recovery, you could flash HBOOT 1.13, flash a new radio, etc.
You just need to get familiar with using FASTBOOT USB mode and all of the options that fastboot.exe can do.
I am speaking from experience. I have a permanent S-OFF IncS and even after I run the Android 2.3.5/Sense 3.0 RUU and it upgraded my HBOOT to version 2.00.0000, I was able to flash ClockworkMod recovery and install su-3.0.x.zip and root the ROM. I have also since reflashed back to HBOOT 1.13.
tpbklake said:
Since you have permanent S-OFF, you don't have to worry about whether to unlock HBOOT 2.00.0000 or downgrading to run Revolutionary, etc.
You should be able to flash ClockworkMod recovery, you could flash HBOOT 1.13, flash a new radio, etc.
You just need to get familiar with using FASTBOOT USB mode and all of the options that fastboot.exe can do.
I am speaking from experience. I have a permanent S-OFF IncS and even after I run the Android 2.3.5/Sense 3.0 RUU and it upgraded my HBOOT to version 2.00.0000, I was able to flash ClockworkMod recovery and install su-3.0.x.zip and root the ROM. I have also since reflashed back to HBOOT 1.13.
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I understanda a lot of thingss Im grateful to you,but you said you could flash hboot 1.13 what is our purpose by doing this processing?
hasi56 said:
I understanda a lot of thingss Im grateful to you,but you said you could flash hboot 1.13 what is our purpose by doing this processing?
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With HBOOT 1.13, ClockworkMod recovery is able to flash a custom ROM in one step. With HBOOT 2.00.0000, after you flash a custom ROM in ClockworkMod, you manually have to extract and flash the boot.img file in the custom ROM's zip file. In other words it is easier to flash custom ROM's with CWM and HBOOT 1.13 than it is with HBOOT 2.00
tpbklake said:
With HBOOT 1.13, ClockworkMod recovery is able to flash a custom ROM in one step. With HBOOT 2.00.0000, after you flash a custom ROM in ClockworkMod, you manually have to extract and flash the boot.img file in the custom ROM's zip file. In other words it is easier to flash custom ROM's with CWM and HBOOT 1.13 than it is with HBOOT 2.00
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Thank you very very much,apolgize me i have one more question i want ti root my cell phone after ics.can i do same thing your root Expression after ics ?
hasi56 said:
Thank you very very much,apolgize me i have one more question i want ti root my cell phone after ics.can i do same thing your root Expression after ics ?
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The only option you have right now for ICS is to run a custom ROM from the Development section and all of those are already rooted.
If you are talking about the official ICS OTA/ROM from HTC, we will have to wait and see if it will be rootable or not.
Once again since you have a permanent S-OFF on your phone, you shouldn't have to worry about. If you install the official ICS ROM and you lose root, you should be able to reflash CWM and then install su-3.0.x.zip to gain root.
tpbklake said:
The only option you have right now for ICS is to run a custom ROM from the Development section and all of those are already rooted.
If you are talking about the official ICS OTA/ROM from HTC, we will have to wait and see if it will be rootable or not.
Once again since you have a permanent S-OFF on your phone, you shouldn't have to worry about. If you install the official ICS ROM and you lose root, you should be able to reflash CWM and then install su-3.0.x.zip to gain root.
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Thank you very very very much,you helped me a lot,
My phone is htc inc s,i use original rom,but i did root i bought a new sensation xe's beats audio headphones and i want tk use beats mod in my phone when i use headphone like sensation xe,is this imposibble i hop i can tell my question
hasi56 said:
My phone is s off,but I have never use custom recovery and custom rom and I have never do root,my version is 2.3.5 hboot:2.0000
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Stupid question, how did you achieve s-off with hboot:2.0000? As I understand, Revolutionary doesn't yet support hboot:2.0000?
alexbk66 said:
Stupid question, how did you achieve s-off with hboot:2.0000? As I understand, Revolutionary doesn't yet support hboot:2.0000?
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No a stupid question because the answer isn't very obvious, but the is a sticky post in the General forum that describes a process where you can downgrade the ROM and HBOOT to a version that Revolutionary does support.
Check here:
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=1373697
or here:
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=1705913
Hello,
I am from India. We haven't yet received the update for ICS on our devices. Can I just run the RUU with this file for my phone:
RUU_VIVO_ICS_35_S_HTC_WWE_4.10.405.1_Radio_20.74.3 0.0833U_3831.18.00.11_M_release_266013_signed.exe - 378.4 MB
Will the ICS work if I just run this update utility on my phone. Or should I wait for a region specific ICS?
You wont be able to Run the RUU due to CID mismatch im assuming you have dont have a goldcard or S-off.
wait for the OTA update..you know we Indians have a habit of being late....:laugh::laugh::laugh::laugh:
rhlmhrtr said:
You wont be able to Run the RUU due to CID mismatch im assuming you have dont have a goldcard or S-off.
wait for the OTA update..you know we Indians have a habit of being late....:laugh::laugh::laugh::laugh:
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Hey thanks buddy. One question, I am new to HTC but what is goldcard? I understand S-OFF after searching all over the internet.
If you dont mind, do you have stock Gingerbread now on your device or a custom rom?
Goldcard is a modified SDcard that allows you to flash any RUU, inshort it prevents the CID check performed by the RUU.
by the way i am S-Offed with Revolutionary and i have Niks Trinity XL v5.0 installed :laugh::laugh::laugh::laugh:
rhlmhrtr said:
Goldcard is a modified SDcard that allows you to flash any RUU, inshort it prevents the CID check performed by the RUU.
by the way i am S-Offed with Revolutionary and i have Niks Trinity XL v5.0 installed :laugh::laugh::laugh::laugh:
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So can I just proceed with creating a Gold card for myself without S-OFF and run the RUU for ICS update?
or should I be S-OFF as well along with Gold card creation. One last question. Is this the same update that would be rolled out to Indian customers as well or will there be any modifications?
Well there are two thinks that you should consider while going along with the steps
1) if you apply the OTA update to your mobile HTC will update the Hboot to version 2.02.000 something then you will never ever able to get s-off and install any custom roms
2) you can procede with the gold card method and then apply the update,but please proceed with caution any wrong step might brick your phone. i would advice since you are not experienced with rom flashing and rooting to wait for the Official ICS update from India they would be propbably out in a day or 2
3) if you are S-off you can try this ...
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=1756500
it is the same OTA updates
and yeah dont forget to hit thanks if you like my post...
rhlmhrtr said:
Well there are two thinks that you should consider while going along with the steps
1) if you apply the OTA update to your mobile HTC will update the Hboot to version 2.02.000 something then you will never ever able to get s-off and install any custom roms
2) you can procede with the gold card method and then apply the update,but please proceed with caution any wrong step might brick your phone. i would advice since you are not experienced with rom flashing and rooting to wait for the Official ICS update from India they would be propbably out in a day or 2
3) if you are S-off you can try this ...
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=1756500
it is the same OTA updates
and yeah dont forget to hit thanks if you like my post...
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I will definitely hit the thanks button but before I let u go, I would want to install the rooted Official update that you mentioned in the third link. So I may have to apply S-OFF. My question is if I do turn the S-OFF and apply the Rooted RUU, will I be able to install custom roms in future as well. And can you post a link on how to proceed with S-OFF. That's what all I need. Nothing more mate.
irfan88 said:
I will definitely hit the thanks button but before I let u go, I would want to install the rooted Official update that you mentioned in the third link. So I may have to apply S-OFF. My question is if I do turn the S-OFF and apply the Rooted RUU, will I be able to install custom roms in future as well. And can you post a link on how to proceed with S-OFF. That's what all I need. Nothing more mate.
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Yes, once you S-OFF and install a custom recovery, you will be able to install custom ROMs, too.
You should check out the Downgrade Script sticky post in this forum to gain S-OFF.
tpbklake said:
Yes, once you S-OFF and install a custom recovery, you will be able to install custom ROMs, too.
You should check out the Downgrade Script sticky post in this forum to gain S-OFF.
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Yes, I will follow the post and do it accordingly. Is it mandatory that while I perform S-OFF, do I need to create a gold card as well?
irfan88 said:
Yes, I will follow the post and do it accordingly. Is it mandatory that while I perform S-OFF, do I need to create a gold card as well?
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Yes you should for good measure unless you know which RUU you should use to downgrade with and it matches your region.
tpbklake said:
Yes you should for good measure unless you know which RUU you should use to downgrade with and it matches your region.
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So should I perform the S-OFF first or Gold card? Which one first?
irfan88 said:
So should I perform the S-OFF first or Gold card? Which one first?
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The downgrade script will create the goldcard and should be run to prepare your phone to run Revolutionary and gain S-OFF.
tpbklake said:
The downgrade script will create the goldcard and should be run to prepare your phone to run Revolutionary and gain S-OFF.
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so can I just follow this link here:
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=1705913
I assume that this link will give me access to both S-OFF and Gold Card. Right?
irfan88 said:
so can I just follow this link here:
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=1705913
I assume that this link will give me access to both S-OFF and Gold Card. Right?
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Yes that would be an excellent post to use and follow.
Can I flash the ICS RUU? I have:
VIVO PVT SHIP S-OFF RL
HBOOT-6.13.1002
RADIO-3805.06.03.03_M
eMMC-boot
Will the RUU update my
- Hboot
- Radio
- Root status
- S-OFF status
@esoul
There is no need to flash the ruu just flash the zip file provided in the link mention by me in the first post and you will have a good stock experience of the ics
Sent from my Incredible S using xda app-developers app
Just download the zip Rom from below link...place it in you as card
Boot into recovery
Wipe data/factory reset
Wipe cache and dalvik cache
Wipe battery stats
And install the zip from sd card
Once you are done the Rom will take around 5-10 mins for first boot please have patience
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=1756500
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Following this method, will my radio get updated to latest version?
eSouL said:
Following this method, will my radio get updated to latest version?
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To which method are you referring to? References both the downgrade script to gain Revolutionary S-OFF as well as using the stock, rooted ICS ROM built from the RUU.
If you asking about installing the stock, rooted ICS ROM it does not include the radio.img, so it will not update your radio.
tpbklake said:
Yes that would be an excellent post to use and follow.
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Hey, you know what, I followed the exact same steps and now my phones is S-OFF. YAyyyy!
Now please help me out installing the stock ICS with root that you had posted.
Should I just paste it in my SD card and install it through recovery. or should I do anything else first.
I have a rooted IncS with s-off. There's a way to install an official release without revert to s-on and loosing root or recovery?
bottosac said:
I have a rooted IncS with s-off. There's a way to install an official release without revert to s-on and loosing root or recovery?
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How did you root and S-OFF? Did you use Revolutionary?
If so, then no you won't be able to run and install an official HTC release, but there are plenty of custom ROMs in the Development section.
Yes I used revolutionary.
I'm looking for a flat ROM like original because each modded rom add some features and tweaks so is far from original and contain bugs or unwanted features.
If you want to brick your phone you can install it.
The best rom install is http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=1756500
this link takes you to the rom, its the offical RUU.
It still allows you to still install other ROMs if you ever choose to.
Try ARHD 3.0. It's as close to stock as can be, rooted, and me & other users on the forum are running on revolutionary hBoot 6.xx. check my signature.
Sent from my HTC Incredible S
ragapa97 said:
Try ARHD 3.0. It's as close to stock as can be, rooted, and me & other users on the forum are running on revolutionary hBoot 6.xx. check my signature.
Sent from my HTC Incredible S
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Thank you I'll try the ARHD and next the We Want ICS :good:
bottosac said:
I have a rooted IncS with s-off. There's a way to install an official release without revert to s-on and loosing root or recovery?
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I also have rooted IncS with S-off with latest blackrose hboot and CWM recovery.. and last night I installed the official rom without loosing root and recovery.
You simply have to get the latest official rom "RUU_VIVO_ICS_35_S_HTC_WWE_4.10.405.1_Radio_20.74.3 0.0833U_3831.18.00.11_M_release_266013_signed.exe" and follow the steps mentioned in http://forum.xda-developers.com/showpost.php?p=18079795&postcount=1
hi! i have an rooted and unlocked htc one running 4.4.2. For some reasons i want to go back to 4.3. Can i install guru reset rom in twrp without s-off the device?
kRYySTy said:
hi! i have an rooted and unlocked htc one running 4.4.2. For some reasons i want to go back to 4.3. Can i install guru reset rom in twrp without s-off the device?
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yes you can, but it will downgrade your software only. Firmware will not downgrade and you'll be unable to apply ota updates because of firmware/software mismatch
oh, thats bad news because i cant s-off my device, it disconnect. and i though that i downgrade it i will be able to s-off.
kRYySTy said:
oh, thats bad news because i cant s-off my device, it disconnect. and i though that i downgrade it i will be able to s-off.
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Unfortunately firmware downgrade require s-off. What is your issue and what s-off method are you using? And why do you need s-off for?
nevermind. thanks for interes, but i managed to s-off with rumrunner after many tries.