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[APP] Modern combat 2 and adreno 205

did anyone try this yet?
http://www.gameloft.com/android-games/modern-combat-2-black-pegasus/
its one of the best 3d games i ever played on android, my desire HD is running it blazing fast
however gameloft downgraded the graphics for the qualcomm version, it seems gameloft decided to give priority to the hummingbird devices
compared to the galaxy S version, it lacks reflections on the weapons, character shadows, a blur effect when hit by bullets and maybe more stuff
i don't understand why gameloft keep releasing the same version for both the old snapdragon and 2nd gen snapdragon devices
seeing how crazy fast the frame rate is running on the DHD, its obvious the adreno 205 can do much more

hamdir said:
did anyone try this yet?
http://www.gameloft.com/android-games/modern-combat-2-black-pegasus/
its one of the best 3d games i ever played on android, my desire HD is running it blazing fast
however gameloft downgraded the graphics for the qualcomm version, it seems gameloft decided to give priority to the hummingbird devices
compared to the galaxy S version, it lacks reflections on the weapons, character shadows, a blur effect when hit by bullets and maybe more stuff
i don't understand why gameloft keep releasing the same version for both the old snapdragon and 2nd gen snapdragon devices
seeing how crazy fast the frame rate is running on the DHD, its obvious the adreno 205 can do much more
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i have this game too its great, but gameloft have reasons for that, adreno cant shift half as many polygons as the powervr in the galaxy series, just look at ashpalt 5, even the DHD can only just run it with minimal slowdown, but the galaxy version looks amazing with reflections on the cars and more realistic tarmac, and powervr runs it with no hickups at all. i like my DHD though, if i wanted to play games that badly, id just fire up my xbox

AndroHero said:
i have this game too its great, but gameloft have reasons for that, adreno cant shift half as many polygons as the powervr in the galaxy series, just look at ashpalt 5, even the DHD can only just run it with minimal slowdown, but the galaxy version looks amazing with reflections on the cars and more realistic tarmac, and powervr runs it with no hickups at all. i like my DHD though, if i wanted to play games that badly, id just fire up my xbox
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i dont agree about asphalt 5 the dhd runs all gameloft games at very high frame rates, modern combat 2 is running at 60fps without a hiccup once
but i didnt know even asphalt is downgraded in terms of effects
my point is adreno 205 is quit capable and samsung figures about the power vr chipset are not accurate

hamdir said:
i dont agree about asphalt 5 the dhd runs all gameloft games at very high frame rates, modern combat 2 is running at 60fps without a hiccup once
but i didnt know even asphalt is downgraded in terms of effects
my point is adreno 205 is quit capable and samsung figures about the power vr chipset are not accurate
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its not just gameloft games, for example the galaxy s verson of NFS Shift looks amazing compared to the snapdragon version. it doesnt help that devs can't be arsed making better looking games for our version of adreno, they just make a snapdragon version. so ours our dumbed down so the desire and evo can play them

exactly my point, adreno was much improved with model 205, but i don't see gameloft bothering
by the way NFS can be hacked to play in high resolution
someone posted the hack a while ago in this forum, i tried it and it really works
maybe we can mix the galaxy S gameloft games with the snapdragon ones the same way

hamdir said:
exactly my point, adreno was much improved with model 205, but i don't see gameloft bothering
by the way NFS can be hacked to play in high resolution
someone posted the hack a while ago in this forum, i tried it and it really works
maybe we can mix the galaxy S gameloft games with the snapdragon ones the same way
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omap cpu's like the hummingbird use diffrent textures dont they

AndroHero said:
omap cpu's like the hummingbird use diffrent textures dont they
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yes Motorola has their version from gameloft or at least its own SD cache

[Q] P1000 vs P1010 - any other differences than the missing 3G?

Hello.
I'm thinking about getting a Galaxy Tab wifi only, but are there any other spec differences between the P1000 and the P1010 other than the missing 3G?
Any known software issues with the P1010?
Thank you
/Henriette

HenrietteK said:
Hello.
I'm thinking about getting a Galaxy Tab wifi only, but are there any other spec differences between the P1000 and the P1010 other than the missing 3G?
Any known software issues with the P1010?
Thank you
/Henriette
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GPU in P1010 is PowerVR SGX530!

IIs that better or worse than the 3G version?

Earthbrain said:
IIs that better or worse than the 3G version?
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PowerVR SGX540 in P1000 is much faster!

No GPS I think and BT 2.1 instead of 3.0

How much is much faster?
Sent from my E10i using XDA App

Don't care about the BT. I think the gps is actually there. Can anyone confirm that?
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amujee said:
No GPS I think and BT 2.1 instead of 3.0
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It does have GPS.
The CPU is also different.
In summary, there are 3 differences:
1. CPU (not much different, I think)
2. GPU (thus can't play 720p smoothly, forget 1080p)
3. Bluetooth (transfer speed is lower)
I own one, and I'm disappointed at the GPU.

So what one does att carry

Thanks. Not getting that one then. Want full power
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HenrietteK said:
Hello.
I'm thinking about getting a Galaxy Tab wifi only, but are there any other spec differences between the P1000 and the P1010 other than the missing 3G?
Any known software issues with the P1010?
Thank you
/Henriette
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1. The P1010 weighs maybe 1 - 5 grams less because you don't need to put a card in it.
2. The WiFi-only only has a 16GB internal memory model.
3. No EDGE, 3G, etc.
Where did you guys get the information regarding the weaker proc? The specs at pdadb.net and gsmarena are just the same? O_O
Unless, of course, they haven't modified it yet. O_O

Galaxy Tab WiFi is OMAP3
I just got a Galaxy Tab WiFi and will be returning it tomorrow.
The SoC is an OMAP3 of some kind. The GPU *is* an SGX530, which is significantly slower than the SGX540 on the Samsung C110 SoC. The OMAPs memory controller is also much slower than the C110s, various other OMAP bits are not up-to-spec compared to C110. The Galaxy Tab WiFi is a joke. Buy a nook color instead: save $100 and get a better LCD.
I'm sure that the product spec page for the Galaxy Tab WiFi said "C110 Applications Processor" a few days ago, now it reads "1GHz A8 Cortex Processor" (which isn't even written correctly, should be "Cortex-A8"...). I was suspicious when someone posted that they had inspected a P1010 ROM and it contained all of the TI OMX libraries, but I didn't believe that Samsung would redo the whole BSP for a product destined to sell zero million units.
I was wrong. Guess I'll wait for the Asus Transformer.

It seems that the firmware / Android version isn't upgradable by normal means.
There is no firmware or Android update selection like the Sprint version.
Kies indicates that the firmware is NOT upgradable.
Anyone know what's going on?

I brought mine yesterday
P1010 decode 720P video is fine (smooth) with stock video player
Screen is so great (actually better than my HD2 w/ Android) , just waiting for the great great xda developer work on the kernel so I can overclock mine...
Here is the list I really like
- ROOT access
- Overclocking , Memory Managerment
- UI Tweak (Using Go launcher at the moment)

pendevous said:
Where did you guys get the information regarding the weaker proc? The specs at pdadb.net and gsmarena are just the same? O_O
Unless, of course, they haven't modified it yet. O_O
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I agree, I haven't seen anything definitive yet that shows it has the weaker CPU. Can any of you smart xda people who has either broken one open (not me, ...yet) or studied the code give a somewhat more definitive answer? I've had mine for 2 weeks now. I'm happy with its performance. But I know I'm going to want to play with the innards down the road. Is it really that much different from the tab phones?

Any update on this? I was going to get a WiFi tab but having second thoughts now...
@victor888 - what app did you use to play the 720p files, RockPlayer?

It is apparently different...
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=1054872

the P1010 is not Bluetooth keyboard Compatible (No HID inside). apparently does not support video output through HDMI cable, please advise if anyone is working.
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Update... Solved Bluetooth compatibility.
Hi.
I could connect my bluetooth keyboard to my Galaxy Tab P1010 (only WIFI) by an application from the Android Market. This application is called "BlueKeyboard JP". I am using Stock GingerBread Rom.
greetings.

Tested it
Hey there,
I have read a lot about the differences of these Tabs, but I have not seen some real results.
So I just bought both of them... And I compared:
Fazit: the GT-P1000 is really faster then the GT-P1010!
I have made a screenshot of both Tabs. P1010 with Android 2.2.1 and P1000 with Android 2.2 with nothing running then Quadrant.
The results are:
P1000: 1090 Points
P1010: 691 Points
You can feel the differences by browsing, sliding the top bar down and using the back and home button.
I don't have pictures of the Hardwareinfos, but I lookes at them and there are a lot of differences. The CPU is the same. But the GPU is a [email protected] and a [email protected] All sensors are different and other things. [email protected] and [email protected]
I will make pictures and a list of all differences, if someone want's it.
Greetz,
Tillmet

I don't trust in Quadrant benchmark. If you use OCLF in the P1010 the result overpast the 1000 points.
In game I have good performace +-30fps in HD gameloft titles, like Eternal Legacy, Dungeon Hunter, etc. In video performace the P1010 play 720p h.263 very well (test it with the free Big Buck Bunny Movie 720p mp4, the picture quality is awesome) ;no so well with h.264 that need be 480p with a baseline level 3.0 profile.
Yes, is no so powerfull like the P1000 but with the price I am satisfied with it.
Ps. Android System Info show OpenGL 1.1 same that the P1000.

Galaxy Tab wifi only (P1010) hardware

Can owners of the Galaxy Tab wifi-only version (P1010) please install Quadrant and make a screen shot of the "System Information" (see attached file, example for Moto Xoom) showing the CPU and GPU?
There are rumors that the wifi-only version use a different chip (OMAP 3630) from the original GT (Samsung Hummingbird). In quadrant's "System Information", even if the CPU name is not listed, the GPU name should be listed - if it is the same as the original GT it should be PowerVR SGX540; if it is OMAP 3630 it will be SGX530.
Time to settle some rumors once and for all. Thank you for your contribution.

slim_thumb said:
Can owners of the Galaxy Tab wifi-only version (P1010) please install Quadrant and make a screen shot of the "System Information" (see attached file, example for Moto Xoom) showing the CPU and GPU?
There are rumors that the wifi-only version use a different chip (OMAP 3630) from the original GT (Samsung Hummingbird). In quadrant's "System Information", even if the CPU name is not listed, the GPU name should be listed - if it is the same as the original GT it should be PowerVR SGX540; if it is OMAP 3630 it will be SGX530.
Time to settle some rumors once and for all. Thank you for your contribution.
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It's PowerVR SGX530!

Is this the OMAP 3630?
Even a total noob like me can guess that "Cores:1" can't be good.

rdk67 said:
It's PowerVR SGX530!
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Hey what app is that?

Another app that can show you system info would be elixir. Its free on the market.

pendevous said:
Hey what app is that?
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Android System Info

rtfm1777 said:
Even a total noob like me can guess that "Cores:1" can't be good.
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It's not like the P1000 has two of them, you know. Plus, the tab plays full hd video while the Tegra 2 can't go above 720p.
Sent from my GT-P1000 using Tapatalk

AlexTheStampede said:
It's not like the P1000 has two of them, you know. Plus, the tab plays full hd video while the Tegra 2 can't go above 720p.
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Can the P1010 though (which is what is being discussed!)

I am getting one of these in the next week or so, but if I understand correctly then the wifi only version isnt quite as quick?

In system folders.

AlexTheStampede said:
It's not like the P1000 has two of them, you know. Plus, the tab plays full hd video while the Tegra 2 can't go above 720p.
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With what video app?
Thanks for the topic as I was also looking into getting the WiFi only tab...will now be looking at the GSM version, ATT or TMOBILE (that one is cheaper) or the 8.9"...when it comes out.

hicdub said:
I am getting one of these in the next week or so, but if I understand correctly then the wifi only version isnt quite as quick?
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Don't know where you're hearing this from. I haven't noticed any lag at all. It seems perfectly responsive to me.

hicdub said:
I am getting one of these in the next week or so, but if I understand correctly then the wifi only version isnt quite as quick?
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I have the original GTab (T-Mobile version) but not the wifi-only (P1010) version. However, I have an Archos 70 tablet that uses the OMAP3630 chip with the SGX530 gpu. It may be comparing orange with grapefruit but this is better than nothing.
The Archos plays downloaded HD video using their media player quite smoothly. However (1) the Archos screen is only 800 x 480 resolution, meaning it is less stressful for a weaker gpu (2) they probably have some form of hardware acceleration for their media player.
The problem comes when you try to watch online streaming video using Adobe Flash in the web browsers (NOTE: NOT through youtube app which compresses the video stream). It can play standard definition (SD, 360p) video but sometimes show stuttering (eg. just before the embedded ads show up). Anything higher (480p or +) causes major stutters and hangs. NOTE: the Archos has a low res. screen (800 x 480) and the SGX530 gpu is already struggling.
When I use my GTab, 360p SD Flash videos in the browser plays smoothly without any problem. It can manage many 480p Flash videos (youtube automatically bumps up the video resolution to 480p when you go full screen). NOTE: the GTab has a higher resolution (1024 x 600) screen, and the SGX540 gpu is able to keep up with it.
My main concern is the pairing of the weaker SGX530 gpu with the "higher" screen resolution of 1024 x 600 in the P1010 may not be a happy marriage!
Any higher res. Flash videos are not possible - and I don't think any single core ARM processors can manage true HD (720p or higher) Flash videos, because these processors were originally designed for smartphones with small low res. screens!
With the original GTab version, you will probably get a faster and smoother user experience eg. swiping through the screens, screen animation / transition, typing on the keyboard. This is because tablets use the touchscreen exclusively for user input, which involves the gpu all the time.
P.S. I rooted my GTab and applied the One Click Lag Fix immediately after unboxing, and it is truely flying! Quadrant about 2200.

Great input, I now see a TMO 3G TAB in my near future ;-)

slim_thumb said:
P.S. I rooted my GTab and applied the One Click Lag Fix immediately after unboxing, and it is truely flying! Quadrant about 2200.
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I only have 720 Quadrant points with my euro p1010 wifi only rooted with Z4root, is that normal?
Ps: sorry for my bad english

Don't buy the wifi version if you expect it to play HD video.
YouTube HQ (480x360) plays smoothly.
Other features are much more responsive than Archos 70 (I have both Grab wifi and Archie 70).
Sent from Galaxy Tab Wifi using Tapatalk

stockhomer said:
I only have 720 Quadrant points with my euro p1010 wifi only rooted with Z4root, is that normal?
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Find "OCLF" (OneClickLagFix) in Android Market. I dunno if it will work on the P1010 but it is worth a try.
Run the app and press "install ext2 tools". If this button is red or it fails to install, you are out of luck.
After this, see which "OneClickLagFix" button (v1, v2, v2.2) is green and choose the NEWEST version. If one version fails, try another one (with green button). If all buttons are in red or if all available versions fail, you are out of luck.
P.S. Before I run Quadrant, I close all unnecessary apps in the background (eg. Weather, Twitter, antivirus). This make sure all possible processing power is used to run the benchmark. Before I used OCLF my Quadrant score (original GTab) was about 1100.

stockhomer said:
I only have 720 Quadrant points with my euro p1010 wifi only rooted with Z4root, is that normal?
Ps: sorry for my bad english
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I also apply one click lag fix. Though the score jumps from 6xx to 16xx, I don't think we can trust Quadrant score test after OCLF. Reason: you can see the Database read/write test is so quick as if it did nothing. Before applying lagfix Database write test tooks around 20 seconds, but after lagfix, it looks like it did nothing on the database test.
I found original Grab wifi is already so much responsive even very low quadrant score. Archos 70 has double the gtab wifi quadrant score, but much less responsive.
Sent from Galaxy Tab Wifi using Tapatalk

Just to confirm OCLF works with p1010. The process was smooth; but I'm still doubt on performance gain. I can't discern the differences.
Sent from Galaxy Tab Wifi using Tapatalk

stockhomer said:
I only have 720 Quadrant points with my euro p1010 wifi only rooted with Z4root, is that normal?
Ps: sorry for my bad english
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As mentioned in my other reply, I got only 6xx, but this tablet is very fast.
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[Q] Apps not optimized

Hello guys
I bought a Razr i few weeks ago, it had ICS 4.0 and I upgraded it to Jelly Bean 4.1.2.
I installed Subway Surfers and now it runs (before it didn't) but runs a little laggy.
I installed Need for Speed Most Wanted and it runs like in slow motion. Firs I tought that my phone specs were not enough to run it, specially beacuse of the GPU SGX 540.
But I watched a video of a gameplay of Need for Speed Most Wanted running on a Samsung Galaxy Nexus, it ran very smoothly, I got very surprised because The Galaxy Nexus has a similar GPU but it's screen resolution is 1280x720, it's GPU runs at 384MHz. By the other side the Razr i has a screen resolution of 540x960 and it's GPU runs at 400MHz.
This means that the Razr i must be more powerful than the Galaxy Nexus respecting to graphics.
My own conclusion is that app developers haven't optimized their apps to run on a x86 processor.
What do you guys think? Do anyone else have a problem similar to mine?

I agree with you. Unfortunately there's not much phones using x86 processor and it seems that they do not care to optimize their applications to run on our phone.

The apps were just ported, not optimized to x86 architecture. That's the reason some apps works but crashes.

Bad gaming graphics lag for 8.0

I am kinda new to android device. Been using apple all the while. Just recently bought a tab s2 8.0 for my new mmorpg game. I am actually experiencing graphics lag when there are lots of skills cast. I have tried both ipad mini 3 and it was a lot smoother. I could not figure out why as tab s2 specs are definitely better than ipad mini 3. Anybody can guide me on how to reduce my game graphics lag on my tab s2?

mahindarous said:
I am kinda new to android device. Been using apple all the while. Just recently bought a tab s2 8.0 for my new mmorpg game. I am actually experiencing graphics lag when there are lots of skills cast. I have tried both ipad mini 3 and it was a lot smoother. I could not figure out why as tab s2 specs are definitely better than ipad mini 3. Anybody can guide me on how to reduce my game graphics lag on my tab s2?
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Have a look at the Game Tuner app (get it from the play store). You can use that to change both the graphics resolution and the frame rate in many games. It might help you tweak things to work better with your game.
It helped me fix up a screen size/zoom issue with Simpsons - Tapped Out and I'm now using it on a few other games to give crisper graphics and better response.