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[Q] Restoring apps in ZIP format

is it possible to put all my apps in to a zip file and flash through recovery after installing a new rom ?? to save the hassle of manual installation. ??

hello me how are you ? the answer is no by the way, you just tried it and it didnt work, hope this helps... bye me

azzledazzle said:
is it possible to put all my apps in to a zip file and flash through recovery after installing a new rom ?? to save the hassle of manual installation. ??
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MyRootBackup is what you are looking for. Save apps as apk's(Android Package) which will allow you to restore and install your apps.

If its a custom rom you can add apps to the data file within the rom rezip and sign it .
Custom rom unzip opens to folders DATA folder put apps in and use the signing rom script to rezip and sign then install as normal .
I prefer to save the APK to SD card and install from that .
jje

titanium backup does that

yeah i finally paid for the pro version woohoo lol i was just rrying to find an alternative method, but being a flash-aholic its well worth it, for the 0 click restore, my thumbs ache after installing 100+ apps manually lol. thanks for all your comments

[ZIP] Sick of losing all your installed apps/widgets when flashing a ROM? Look here!

I don't know about you, but I was sick of that.
I flash new ROMs a few times a day on my phone, losing my /data/app apps some times a day.
So I made a flashable zip that solves this problem.
This ZIP is ONLY for pushing apps into /data/app!
Right, there are a few things you need:
- The flashable zip, download it below
- Root Explorer
- WinZip
Do the following:
- Using Root Explorer, copy the apps installed in /data/app to /sdcard
- They will have names like com.***.***-1, leave them like that. DO NOT RENAME!
- Connect your phone through USB to your PC
- Copy the apps from /sdcard to your pc
- Unzip 'data_app_install.zip' and put the apps into /data/app
- Select '/META-INF' and '/data', rightclick, 'Add to archive'
- Choose .ZIP as type
- Let it zip
- Copy the new .ZIP file to your external SD
- Flash a new ROM
- Flash the new .ZIP file containing your /data/app apps
- Reboot and enjoy!
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Nice one, i use MyBackup Pro

ionhide said:
Nice one, i use MyBackup Pro
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Titanium backup free edition

peewster said:
Titanium backup free edition
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same same Works for me..

Does it keep also all the settings in the apps?

When the app settings are saved in the app itself, then yes.
When the app settings are saved somewhere else (meaning NOT in /data/app), then no.

Does that mean it should also be possible to exchange the data folder in a ROM zip and flash it directly with it?

When you know how to edit the updater-script so that it adds the /data folder to your phone aswell, then, yeah, it's possible.
I haven't found the mounting command for /data tho so I can't help you there.

my backup root

My backup root sukcs, it did not recover any settings for me. Titanium backup is nice, but it takes too long to get the apps one by one.

<3 this but is there any way how i could backup app data which are not saved in data/app?

Good zip for flash app direct in data,thanks

martan1981 said:
My backup root sukcs, it did not recover any settings for me. Titanium backup is nice, but it takes too long to get the apps one by one.
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I can explain that one for you.. You came from a stock MRXX rom, flashed a CM7 nightlies and lost your backed up data.. Because MyBackup uses 1st sd partition on stock rom, and sd-ext/mnt on CM7.. Your backup is still there after flash, you just need to move it from sd to sd-ext..
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martan1981 said:
My backup root sukcs, it did not recover any settings for me. Titanium backup is nice, but it takes too long to get the apps one by one.
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Get titanium backup pro. It has a batch restore feature. I use all the time and am very happy with it. Now I'm flash-frenzy

[Q] Questions after rooting.

After reading the manual provided in this thread, I decided to root my Galaxy Ace.
Rooting went well and installing CWM5 too. After installing CMW, I made a backup.
Now I want to uninstall some system apps that I don't use, such as Samsung apps.
I keep finding the same answers:
Go to System\apps folder, find the app you want to delete and delete it. But won't that just remove the installation file and leave the program installed?
Second question:
If I decide to flash a new ROM (say CM9), where does my old ROM go and how do I keep programs that I have now (Think free office) in my new ROM?
By the way, this is what you're working with:
Me: much experience with Windows, none with Android.
Samsung Galaxy Ace, Dutch T-Mobile branded Phone.
Thanks for taking the time to read and answer me.
Rob.

Hi,
Okay, after you rooted, you cannot just delete an item right away, i think you need to set permission first before you can delete a system file.
so make sure you set permission first so you can do changes in your system file.
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Nightwing-1 said:
After reading the manual provided in this thread, I decided to root my Galaxy Ace.
Rooting went well and installing CWM5 too. After installing CMW, I made a backup.
Now I want to uninstall some system apps that I don't use, such as Samsung apps.
I keep finding the same answers:
Go to System\apps folder, find the app you want to delete and delete it. But won't that just remove the installation file and leave the program installed?
Second question:
If I decide to flash a new ROM (say CM9), where does my old ROM go and how do I keep programs that I have now (Think free office) in my new ROM?
By the way, this is what you're working with:
Me: much experience with Windows, none with Android.
Samsung Galaxy Ace, Dutch T-Mobile branded Phone.
Thanks for taking the time to read and answer me.
Rob.
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when you flashed a different rom, your old rom will be fully deleted, however make sure you follow the correct procedure in CWM, and also for your apps that you don't want to be deleted everytime you flash a new rom, kindly make a backup.. Titanium Backup app is free in google store and very usefull.. and regarding deleting or editing a system file, you need to set permission to do that, you can try to use Es file manager for that.
hope i helped.

jhay0017 said:
Okay, after you rooted, you cannot just delete an item right away, i think you need to set permission first before you can delete a system file.
so make sure you set permission first so you can do changes in your system file.
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when you flashed a different rom, your old rom will be fully deleted, however make sure you follow the correct procedure in CWM, and also for your apps that you don't want to be deleted everytime you flash a new rom, kindly make a backup.. Titanium Backup app is free in google store and very usefull.. and regarding deleting or editing a system file, you need to set permission to do that, you can try to use Es file manager for that.
hope i helped.
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Is not necessary to change permissions in /system/app folder, the only you need is to mount /system partition as R/W to delete or modify whatever you want, use root explorer (e.g.) to do it, because /system apps have the 644 permissions (THE ROOT USER IS ALLOWED TO EDIT THIS FILES)
And yes titanum back up is a great tool, but all GB apps won't work properly in CM roms so sometimes to restore apps using TB is really painful, you can find at Google Playstore similar apps as ThinkFree even the same app https://play.google.com/store/apps/details?id=com.tf.thinkdroid.amlite so be careful with TB
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Nightwing-1 said:
After reading the manual provided in this thread, I decided to root my Galaxy Ace.
Rooting went well and installing CWM5 too. After installing CMW, I made a backup.
Now I want to uninstall some system apps that I don't use, such as Samsung apps.
I keep finding the same answers:
Go to System\apps folder, find the app you want to delete and delete it. But won't that just remove the installation file and leave the program installed?
Second question:
If I decide to flash a new ROM (say CM9), where does my old ROM go and how do I keep programs that I have now (Think free office) in my new ROM?
By the way, this is what you're working with:
Me: much experience with Windows, none with Android.
Samsung Galaxy Ace, Dutch T-Mobile branded Phone.
Thanks for taking the time to read and answer me.
Rob.
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1. If you remove .apk file you'll remove the app, but not data files
2. I've already explained it

Thanks for your quick replies. I see I still have a lot of learning to do.
@Viper: Can you post a link to your reference on how to remove the datafiles?
I think I'll wait with flashing a ROM, until I completely know what I'm doing.
Rob.

Nightwing-1 said:
Thanks for your quick replies. I see I still have a lot of learning to do.
@Viper: Can you post a link to your reference on how to remove the datafiles?
I think I'll wait with flashing a ROM, until I completely know what I'm doing.
Rob.
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There is no reference, just instal TB and do it deleting data (TB can also clean your cache and dalvik-cache partition even backup your apks and data) or use a filebrowser as root explorer go to /system/app, mount it as R/W and delete what you want, be careful with apps as SystemUI, Statusbar, Phone, Contacts, etc
well you could have a look at this thread http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=1542749

Thanks for your quick and clear help Viper.
I've seen references tot Titanium Backup. As I understand it, you can compare it to the 'uninstall software' in the Windows settings on a normal computer.
I use 'Total commander' as file explorer, I don't know if this does the same as 'Root explorer', but it does have root rights.
What's the difference between CWM and Titanium Backup. I read that I should make a backup using CWM. But after some research, I now see that I have to use TB aswell to make a backup. All in all a bit confusing.

Nightwing-1 said:
Thanks for your quick and clear help Viper.
I've seen references tot Titanium Backup. As I understand it, you can compare it to the 'uninstall software' in the Windows settings on a normal computer.
I use 'Total commander' as file explorer, I don't know if this does the same as 'Root explorer', but it does have root rights.
What's the difference between CWM and Titanium Backup. I read that I should make a backup using CWM. But after some research, I now see that I have to use TB aswell to make a backup. All in all a bit confusing.
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yes a CWM backup is prefered mostly as it backups everythin including your system apps n data.

Nightwing-1 said:
Thanks for your quick and clear help Viper.
I've seen references tot Titanium Backup. As I understand it, you can compare it to the 'uninstall software' in the Windows settings on a normal computer.
I use 'Total commander' as file explorer, I don't know if this does the same as 'Root explorer', but it does have root rights.
What's the difference between CWM and Titanium Backup. I read that I should make a backup using CWM. But after some research, I now see that I have to use TB aswell to make a backup. All in all a bit confusing.
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CWM can backup your whole rom with all you user data(includes all your apps!), etc.
TB can only backup apps
Now you could think: When CWM backups the rom and my data + apps why I need TB?
The answer is that you can only restore the full rom in CWM. You can restore single apps.
In TB you can restore single apps.
You can use any file explorer with root permissions to delete system apps. Idk, but I like Root Explorer, because of its easy usage
Sent from my GT-S5830 using xda app-developers app

Thanks for the clear answers.
I'll install Titanium Backup too and start experimenting.

Nightwing-1 said:
Thanks for the clear answers.
I'll install Titanium Backup too and start experimenting.
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there is a separate button for thanx dude! n we all need it!

Mandark52 said:
there is a separate button for thanx dude! n we all need it!
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why do you need thanks? you'll be better... you'll be worse than now?...
I can't belive it :laugh:

Viper The Ripper said:
why do you need thanks? you'll be better... you'll be worse than now?...
I can't belive it :laugh:
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well thats my peraonal problem. It encourages me. N I believe it!!

Since u r totally new I would like u to use a slightly different and easier to understand approach.
Its similar to what others hav said but i feel a lot easier for newbies.
Steps.
1. Install ES File Explorer.
2. Go to system/apps.
3. From options click on TOOLS
4. Then click Root Explorer or Root manager Option.
5. You see the option to uninstall system app. Click on it. Long press the app u wana delete. And uninstall.
To reatore apps from previous ROM.
1. Create a backup of that ROM using CWM.
2. Download Nandroid Manager on your new ROM.
3. Click on the Backup File displayed.
4. Restore the apps you want.
I hope this was usefull.
Sent from my GT-S5830 using xda app-developers app

After all of your suggestions, I did some research about deleting system apps and freeing up memory. On a Dutch forum, someone said that if you delete system apps, it doesn't give you space for new apps, because this memory space is reserved.
Can anyone tell me if that is correct, or does the answer form Omega_Warrior really free up memory?
Now I've come across a new item: Bootanimations.
I have found a lot of bootanimations on XDA. Problem is, my Phone has .qmg files, instead of .zip files. Some forums suggest that you can rename the Original files to 'bootsamsung.qmg'.bak' and replace them with the .zip files. Other forums insist that you need the .qmg format, in order to make the bootanimation work.
Which of the comments is true?

Nightwing-1 said:
After all of your suggestions, I did some research about deleting system apps and freeing up memory. On a Dutch forum, someone said that if you delete system apps, it doesn't give you space for new apps, because this memory space is reserved.
Can anyone tell me if that is correct, or does the answer form Omega_Warrior really free up memory?
Now I've come across a new item: Bootanimations.
I have found a lot of bootanimations on XDA. Problem is, my Phone has .qmg files, instead of .zip files. Some forums suggest that you can rename the Original files to 'bootsamsung.qmg'.bak' and replace them with the .zip files. Other forums insist that you need the .qmg format, in order to make the bootanimation work.
Which of the comments is true?
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Yes if u delete a system App u do free up some space but that space cannot be used by u unless u install an app as a system app... But it still frees up space, reduces background process and in some cases affects performance in positive way.
Regarding Bootanimations .zip files do the trick. Simply download the zip file u want as bootanimation. Rename it as bootanimation.zip. go to system/media and paste it there. Reboot n it's done... This method has been tried by me. N it works. I hav no idea abt the.qmg files u tlkin abt...
Sent from my Xperia GT-S5830

omega_warrior said:
Yes if u delete a system App u do free up some space but that space cannot be used by u unless u install an app as a system app... But it still frees up space, reduces background process and in some cases affects performance in positive way.
Regarding Bootanimations .zip files do the trick. Simply download the zip file u want as bootanimation. Rename it as bootanimation.zip. go to system/media and paste it there. Reboot n it's done... This method has been tried by me. N it works. I hav no idea abt the.qmg files u tlkin abt...
Sent from my Xperia GT-S5830
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Well you can transform useful apps as Operamini or Quickpic as system app using Titanium backup e.g. so you can use this free space as you elwant...
About Bootanimations you need to flash a CUSTOM KERNEL (CF-ROOT, BATTERY EXTENDER,...) to enable this feature and the correct path, if you don't flash it you can't use this path and bootanimation.zips
Be careful with system apps or follow this guide http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=1542749

New ROM
OFF TOPIC
Instead of starting a new topic, I decided to post my question in this topic. Just incase someone else is following the same path as I am.
Back on topic:
I found this ROM review and I'm thinking about installing it to my Galaxy Ace.
Here is the link to the review: http://www.technobuzzing.com/sgs-ii-v11-2-samsung-galaxy-ace-custom-rom/
These are the steps I intend to follow:
Create a backup of all my personal files.
Use Titanium backup and CWM to backup the Phone itself.
Next steps:
Boot into CWM
Choose 'wipe data/factory reset'.
Choose 'Wipe cache'.
Choose 'Advanced' and 'wipe dalvik cache'.
'Install zip from SD-card'.
If I left any safety precautions out, or missed a step, please tell me.
Anyone who has this ROM installed, feel free to share your comments on this ROM.
@Omega Warrior: The QMG files for the bootanimations are aparently a Samsung thing.
Thanks for any reactions.

Nightwing-1 said:
OFF TOPIC
Instead of starting a new topic, I decided to post my question in this topic. Just incase someone else is following the same path as I am.
Back on topic:
I found this ROM review and I'm thinking about installing it to my Galaxy Ace.
Here is the link to the review: http://www.technobuzzing.com/sgs-ii-v11-2-samsung-galaxy-ace-custom-rom/
These are the steps I intend to follow:
Create a backup of all my personal files.
Use Titanium backup and CWM to backup the Phone itself.
Next steps:
Boot into CWM
Choose 'wipe data/factory reset'.
Choose 'Wipe cache'.
Choose 'Advanced' and 'wipe dalvik cache'.
'Install zip from SD-card'.
If I left any safety precautions out, or missed a step, please tell me.
Anyone who has this ROM installed, feel free to share your comments on this ROM.
@Omega Warrior: The QMG files for the bootanimations are aparently a Samsung thing.
Thanks for any reactions.
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You are in the correct way
The most important a CWM backup just in case something goes wrong and you'll need to go back so perfect!
I used this rom, IMO all SpaceCaker works are amazing. He is one of the best themer we have
About QMG files, yes only stock or mainly stock roms have QMG files as bootanimation. Custom roms always or almost always have bootanimations in .zip files, this is allowed due to the custom kernels that support this kind of tweaks, so custom rom = custom bootanimation.zip (mainly)
About the link provided:
You can find the last updated version here in xda , even you can read changelog, install instructions, patches etc
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=1453165

So you're saying "go ahead and good luck"?
Because if it goes wrong... my backup Phone is a Nokia 3510. The type that asks "share by sms or smoke signal?".:fingers-crossed:

Nightwing-1 said:
So you're saying "go ahead and good luck"?
Because if it goes wrong... my backup Phone is a Nokia 3510. The type that asks "share by sms or smoke signal?".:fingers-crossed:
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well I'm not forcing you xDDD, but there isn't other way to do it so if you have the GT-S5830 model, there shouldn't be problem
And yes CWM backup works fine and is the best thing you can do before flashing nothing just in case something goes wrong
So good luck and preparing the fire for smoke signals!! (joke ) XDDD

How exactly do I uninstall and reinstall my adb drivers?

I'm trying to fix the "daemon started successfully" problem, but I don't think I'm uninstalling and re-installing the driver correctly, I just uninstall the device from device manager, then plug the phone back in and let it install.
That must be wrong because it's not working. The program I'm trying to use is xUltiamte2.4 to deodex my phone.

Astralogic said:
I'm trying to fix the "daemon started successfully" problem, but I don't think I'm uninstalling and re-installing the driver correctly, I just uninstall the device from device manager, then plug the phone back in and let it install.
That must be wrong because it's not working. The program I'm trying to use is xUltiamte2.4 to deodex my phone.
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If anyone has had this problem and fixed can you please tell me how you did it?

Astralogic said:
I'm trying to fix the "daemon started successfully" problem, but I don't think I'm uninstalling and re-installing the driver correctly, I just uninstall the device from device manager, then plug the phone back in and let it install.
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Why is that a problem? You want the "daemon" to start successfully, ADB won't work if it doesn't... If it stays stuck on that, maybe you have some program interfering/using ADB. Maybe you have some other ADB program open (flashtool) or maybe you use Bluestacks; check your running processes for a running "adb.exe" process and kill it, then try again.
Removing the drivers should should work as you're doing it already, but before connecting your phone, you should reinstall the drivers first. Or, once it's installed, manually update the drivers through the Windows "Device Manager", by locating the "sa0105adb.inf" file manually.
It can be extracted from the drivers installer (the one that comes with Flashtool) with 7zip, or you might find it still in your temp folder.

Antiga Prime said:
Why is that a problem? You want the "daemon" to start successfully, ADB won't work if it doesn't... If it stays stuck on that, maybe you have some program interfering/using ADB. Maybe you have some other ADB program open (flashtool) or maybe you use Bluestacks; check your running processes for a running "adb.exe" process and kill it, then try again.
Removing the drivers should should work as you're doing it already, but before connecting your phone, you should reinstall the drivers first. Or, once it's installed, manually update the drivers through the Windows "Device Manager", by locating the "sa0105adb.inf" file manually.
It can be extracted from the drivers installer (the one that comes with Flashtool) with 7zip, or you might find it still in your temp folder.
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Nothing works, isn't there a better way of deodexing then using this stupid program?
Edit: I have a better question. The only reason I want to deodex is so that I can debloat using this guide, that thread already gives me the list of bloatware, isn't there a way I can just go in and manually delete the bloat? Without have to worry about deodexing in order to get the debloat script to run?

Astralogic said:
Nothing works, isn't there a better way of deodexing then using this stupid program?
Edit: I have a better question. The only reason I want to deodex is so that I can debloat using this guide, that thread already gives me the list of bloatware, isn't there a way I can just go in and manually delete the bloat? Without have to worry about deodexing in order to get the debloat script to run?
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Actually you can also debloat your rom while its odexed. At least as long as the framework is not changed.
Just do a backup, then get a root file manager and delete the safe to remove apps and their odex files. Reboot afterwards.
The only reason why the debloat script doesn't support odexed roms ia that the odex files are not deleted during the script. (However, it would be easily possible to add these lines)

WhiteNeo said:
Actually you can also debloat your rom while its odexed. At least as long as the framework is not changed.
Just do a backup, then get a root file manager and delete the safe to remove apps and their odex files. Reboot afterwards.
The only reason why the debloat script doesn't support odexed roms ia that the odex files are not deleted during the script. (However, it would be easily possible to add these lines)
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Could you tell me what folder those files are in that I should delete?

Astralogic said:
Could you tell me what folder those files are in that I should delete?
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Well, if you were following that guide you would have seen that practically everything it's deleting is in /system/app:
delete("/system/app/FBCalendarSync.apk"
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The odex files are in the same folder, and have the same name aside from the .odex extension.
Then again, that program sometimes has issues; you could always copy the files from /system/app and /system/framework manually without using ADB to the corresponding folders, after starting the program open the Windows Task Manager and kill of the "adb.exe", and the program will continue running and let you deodex the files. Then you'd just have to figure out how to copy them back which is not hard.
Or you could also try a different deodexing program such as Universal Deodexer V4. I've never used any of those since I've deodexed my ROM with dsixda's Rom Kitchen, for which you'd just need to follow the instructions and then copy the resulting files manually (as you'd have to do in the above mentioned example anyway).

Antiga Prime said:
Well, if you were following that guide you would have seen that practically everything it's deleting is in /system/app:
The odex files are in the same folder, and have the same name aside from the .odex extension.
Then again, that program sometimes has issues; you could always copy the files from /system/app and /system/framework manually without using ADB to the corresponding folders, after starting the program open the Windows Task Manager and kill of the "adb.exe", and the program will continue running and let you deodex the files. Then you'd just have to figure out how to copy them back which is not hard.
Or you could also try a different deodexing program such as Universal Deodexer V4. I've never used any of those since I've deodexed my ROM with dsixda's Rom Kitchen, for which you'd just need to follow the instructions and then copy the resulting files manually (as you'd have to do in the above mentioned example anyway).
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I don't mean I want to manually deodex, I mean I want to manually debloat, deleting the appropriate APK and ODEX file from /system/app seems easy enough, but what would I delete (if anything) from the /system/framework folder?

Astralogic said:
I don't mean I want to manually deodex, I mean I want to manually debloat, deleting the appropriate APK and ODEX file from /system/app seems easy enough, but what would I delete (if anything) from the /system/framework folder?
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I know, I'm just giving you a solution since that program you're using has always given me issues, and even now, knowing that ADB works, it still get's stuck on that "starting ADB daemon" message.
I'm not trying to be rude, but if you're following the guide you'd have noticed that nothing gets deleted from the framework folder. All it tells you are which apps are safe to remove; whichever apps you do end up removing are up to you. I think the Google Talk app is garbage, but someone else might use it, so debloating is also subjective.
Also, you could just as easily do this with Titanium Backup and actually just freeze the app first in case you're not sure about deleting it.

Astralogic said:
I don't mean I want to manually deodex, I mean I want to manually debloat, deleting the appropriate APK and ODEX file from /system/app seems easy enough, but what would I delete (if anything) from the /system/framework folder?
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I know, manually deodexing that way would cause a bootloop because of missing classes.dex files in every system app.
Some people that dont like the preinstalled Sony apps prefer getting rid of all the bloat and remove SemcGenericUXPRes.apk from framework folder.. And some (or most) of the framework jar files beginning with "com.sony..."
This will of course bring noticeable smoothness increases, but is very likely to cause bugs when not done by experienced users.
And it could cause a bootloop on odexed builds as the odex files in system/app do no longer fit to the framework.
Just for information.

WhiteNeo said:
I know, manually deodexing that way would cause a bootloop because of missing classes.dex files in every system app.
Some people that dont like the preinstalled Sony apps prefer getting rid of all the bloat and remove SemcGenericUXPRes.apk from framework folder.. And some (or most) of the framework jar files beginning with "com.sony..."
This will of course bring noticeable smoothness increases, but is very likely to cause bugs when not done by experienced users.
And it could cause a bootloop on odexed builds as the odex files in system/app do no longer fit to the framework.
Just for information.
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I'm just gonna use titaniums backups freeze feature, I never knew it could do that.
I don't suppose someone somewhere has listed which of the com.sony*** files are safe to disable have they?

Astralogic said:
I'm just gonna use titaniums backups freeze feature, I never knew it could do that.
I don't suppose someone somewhere has listed which of the com.sony*** files are safe to disable have they?
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TiBu's freeze doesnt help against some apps. They keep running in background but are no longer shown in Settings or Greenify.
Nope, but you might check any flashable "Xperia Media App port" zip. The more complete, the better.
The files that are included in framework folder are usually safe to remove. :good:

WhiteNeo said:
TiBu's freeze doesnt help against some apps. They keep running in background but are no longer shown in Settings or Greenify.
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I have yet to see this happen. Maybe you can point me to one example, since I'd like to test this?

Antiga Prime said:
I have yet to see this happen. Maybe you can point me to one example, since I'd like to test this?
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OmniSwitch.
Add it to Greenify first, then freeze it and reboot. Check Greenify main activity and you'll see.
Was getting on my nerves for two months, till I finally decided to uninstall it.

WhiteNeo said:
OmniSwitch.
Add it to Greenify first, then freeze it and reboot. Check Greenify main activity and you'll see.
Was getting on my nerves for two months, till I finally decided to uninstall it.
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Well, don't know why you would add it to Greenify first, makes no sense, but nonetheless, you're right. But then again, this might be due to the way OmniSwitch is integrated into OmniRom in order to use it for the Recent Apps switch. I don't remember this happening on Carbon, which also has OmniSwitch without that integration. I'm on Omni right now so I can't verify this.

In Titanium Backup some apps are red, any idea why?
I'm going to disable two of those com.sony things every morning, but most of them are red.

Astralogic said:
In Titanium Backup some apps are red, any idea why?
I'm going to disable two of those com.sony things every morning, but most of them are red.
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Most of the framework stuff cannot be disabled, it has to be uninstalled because Dalvik cache would have to be rebuilt when its gone.
I suggest trying doenen's heavily debloated 4.3 rom. Or at least having a look at its apps and framework to see what he has removed. :good:

Astralogic said:
In Titanium Backup some apps are red, any idea why?
I'm going to disable two of those com.sony things every morning, but most of them are red.
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Titanium Backup has a help section which explains the colors. A red colored app means it's a System Service. I'm sure you can open the help section and check out what the other colors mean.
And as @WhiteNeo said, having a look at some other debloated ROM will help you decide what you can remove or not; don't disable or uninstall something just for the sake of disabling it. Find out what it's for and then decide if you need it, or if your Rom needs it in order to function properly.
If it's of any help you can use this as a reference. I made that back when I used to use Stock ROMs .

WhiteNeo said:
TiBu's freeze doesnt help against some apps. They keep running in background but are no longer shown in Settings or Greenify.
Nope, but you might check any flashable "Xperia Media App port" zip. The more complete, the better.
The files that are included in framework folder are usually safe to remove. :good:
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Antiga Prime said:
I have yet to see this happen. Maybe you can point me to one example, since I'd like to test this?
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WhiteNeo said:
OmniSwitch.
Add it to Greenify first, then freeze it and reboot. Check Greenify main activity and you'll see.
Was getting on my nerves for two months, till I finally decided to uninstall it.
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Just confirming that @WhiteNeo is right. Even on Carbon Omniswitch's process is still active even though it's frozen/disabled. It doesn't consume RAM as far as I can tell, but this is odd behavior.

Replacing Sony's apps

I'm looking for a way to replace the system apps with their AOSP counter part.
E.g. dialer, email, contacts etc.
Does someone know if it's possible for all apps or are their any problems to be expected?
And second question, is there probably a flash able zip for this?

I'd be curious to know as well. Coming from a Nexus device I hate Sony's attempts to "improve" the basic apps like dialer and messaging. They all look like they were designed in 1998.

That should be possible....
Nebucatnetzer said:
I'm looking for a way to replace the system apps with their AOSP counter part.
E.g. dialer, email, contacts etc.
Does someone know if it's possible for all apps or are their any problems to be expected?
And second question, is there probably a flash able zip for this?
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I think at the moment there is no available zip. You need CWM for your idea - do you have your phone rooted ?
If so there should be a possiblity to create such a flashable zip , that erase the not needed apps and install the new apps...
If your phone is not rooted maybe a batch file could do the trick via ADB for you - in a first step it should block the not wanted apps and in a second step it should install the new apps.
So you need the Names of the packages / apps that should be erased and before that, you should find the AOSP-Apps that run on the Z3C.

pipspeak said:
I'd be curious to know as well. Coming from a Nexus device I hate Sony's attempts to "improve" the basic apps like dialer and messaging. They all look like they were designed in 1998.
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My favorites are
Textra for messaging
Quickpic for album
MX Player for Videos

Rhonin86 said:
I think at the moment there is no available zip. You need CWM for your idea - do you have your phone rooted ?
If so there should be a possiblity to create such a flashable zip , that erase the not needed apps and install the new apps...
If your phone is not rooted maybe a batch file could do the trick via ADB for you - in a first step it should block the not wanted apps and in a second step it should install the new apps.
So you need the Names of the packages / apps that should be erased and before that, you should find the AOSP-Apps that run on the Z3C.
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Yes it's rooted.

I would be happy too, to replace the dialer & contact apps with AOSP ones.
Regarding messaging, i'm using this one : https://play.google.com/store/apps/details?id=fr.slvn.mms

Collecting of required information
Hi folx,
in this post i try to get all required information to replace the not wanted SONY stuff by the desired stuff mostly AOSP.
Your phone should be rooted and CWM should be installed.
Then we have to build a fitting flashable zip file.
But to succeed we fist need to test if the wanted apps will work on our phone. (i will test for example: Dialer from CM11)
If these Apps work, then we should have a deeper look on the creating of such a flashable.zip file. I have found a lot of howtos in the web. But to be sure we should backup those SONY-Apps
Here are 2 links i would use:
http://www.android-hilfe.de/root-hacking-modding-fuer-lenovo-ideapad-a1/268272-how-cwm-update-zips-erstellen.html german
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=1721680 english here at XDA
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=2764533 this can also be useful
The updater - script within this zip-file could be adjusted to our needs. Deleting the not wanted Sony.apps from /system /app and replace them with the wanted Apps. If i find the time i could provide such a file - but i can't test it.
The simple Trick:
But you could do it more simple - you just need a root explorer (i prefer ES File Explorer). Go to the above mentioned folder /system/app or system/private. There you should find the not wanted apps. Just copy them in a backup folder on your sdcard, delete the sony apk in the system - partition, copy your desired apk in the folder, where you have deleted the Sony-apk, give the right permissions and then reboot.
If the new app fails - just delete it in the same manner as described above and copy the backupped app in the corresponding folder and check the permissions again. - reboot.
I would really appreciate posting your results and if there are any further questions.... do not hesitate - we are all here to learn and get our phone better
Cheers
Rhonin

I probably have time to test this on the weekend.
I'll let you know how it goes.

I copied over Contacts, Contacts Prvovider and the Dialer apks.
However I couldn't get them to work.
Neither the Contacts nor the Dialer app showed up in the app drawer.
Email didn't work either.

Deskclock works fine. I'd love dialler to work...