Can the stock ROM be overclocked?
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Can the stock ROM be overclocked?
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the rom isnt what overclocks, its the kernel.
Sooooo...can the stock kernel be overclocked?
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Sooooo...can the stock kernel be overclocked?
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From the looks of it no.
And this is more appropriatefor the general section Thanks
Drew
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I'm still trying to figure out why people like to overclock. Is it just for benchmark sake? I've overclocked plenty on my desktop and my old phone and always revert back to stock clock speeds because the difference was almost always a placebo effect that only showed up in benchmarks. Rarely ever a change in real world use.
If you want to know how long I've been tinkering with clock speeds, the first overclock I did was on a Pentium 3 550 I overclocked to 800.
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Bragging rights its the only reason I used to over clock.
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I would prefer to under volt at stock clock speeds to help out with battery life. First and foremost it's a phone. Secondly it's whatever you want it to be (MP3 player, camera, game player, movie player), so battery life is always the issue for me. While I get all day with my current phone (Captivate), I don't like being down to 15-27% at the end of the day.
My contract is up in March so looking at Vivid or Nitro HD as replacements for my Captivate.
I have only been overclocking my Aria because I used my wife's Inspire and got jealous of the snappiness. I use Tasker as my CPU speed selector and it is set to always return to max stock speed if the display gets turned off.
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jmautz said:
I would prefer to under volt at stock clock speeds to help out with battery life. First and foremost it's a phone. Secondly it's whatever you want it to be (MP3 player, camera, game player, movie player), so battery life is always the issue for me. While I get all day with my current phone (Captivate), I don't like being down to 15-27% at the end of the day.
My contract is up in March so looking at Vivid or Nitro HD as replacements for my Captivate.
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I glanced at the Nitro and then looked away quickly once I saw the Vivid.
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What are people liking more? I am running CM6 RC1
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What are people liking more? I am running CM6 RC1
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23:27 with mine and at 75% 6 hours of web viewing and 5 5-10 minute calls..not txt mes. I love this phone now..
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What are people liking more? I am running CM6 RC1
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I much prefer set cpu, as it's more customizable and since the battery tweak was slow and a battery killer for me.
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What are people liking more? I am running CM6 RC1
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I honestly prefer SetCPU. Always have, and always will!
Mac11700 said:
23:27 with mine and at 75% 6 hours of web viewing and 5 5-10 minute calls..not txt mes. I love this phone now..
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Uhm...?
kwheel596 said:
I honestly prefer SetCPU. Always have, and always will!
Uhm...?
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That is what showed under about phone in the menu in the battery stats today. That is with wi-fi turned off for abot 1/2 of the time and same for data roaming. I haven't run the battery down to zero as yet after flashing the kernal yet.I'll do that tomorrow after work.
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I'm downloading it right now...can anyone recommend good settings?
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Nevermind...I found your recommendations on another thread...I set it up and my quadrant score went from 300 to 457! It was 400 on kernel 9 using battery tweak...went down to 300 on #11, also on tweak....I got rid of that and was blown away by a score of 457 and in Neo I am getting over 30fps and high 5's in linpack...my hero is flying!!
I can't thank you enough! !
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How about auto killer? Any good? If so can you recommend settings for that?
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Well then, time to pull out the big guns
Comparison of Battery Tweak and SetCpu
Tweak Tool (based on battery tweak) Set to be released running on almost any android phone later this year (with tons of new features, I attached a little sneak preview (subject to change blah blah blah))
Also I've never gotten good battery life with setcpu, with tweak tool I'm getting about 2-3 day life. That's good right?
Vandelay007 said:
Nevermind...I found your recommendations on another thread...I set it up and my quadrant score went from 300 to 457! It was 400 on kernel 9 using battery tweak...went down to 300 on #11, also on tweak....I got rid of that and was blown away by a score of 457 and in Neo I am getting over 30fps and high 5's in linpack...my hero is flying!!
I can't thank you enough! !
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You would technically get the same results if you set the battery tweak up in the same fashion
Perhaps it is because I always used a preset on battery tweak rather than customizing it...
On set CPU what should I have the scaling set to? They default to on demand, however, do I want to set the screen off profile to power save?
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Interactive is a good choice
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Interactive is a good choice
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For both? And what about priority settings?
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It was 400 on kernel 9 using battery tweak...went down to 300 on #11, also on tweak....I got rid of that and was blown away by a score of 457
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got rid of what? what kernal did u end up staying with
I went from battery tweak to set CPU and kept #11 and have been getting high quad scores
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Vandelay007 said:
It was 400 on kernel 9 using battery tweak...went down to 300 on #11, also on tweak....I got rid of that and was blown away by a score of 457
got rid of what? what kernal did u end up staying with
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Hey guys coming from the evo forums with a question for you all. My buddy has a Droid which I rooted for him yesterday and I was looking for some kernels for him. Do any exist?
There's a bunch in rom manager he can try. Personally I tried a handful and never noticed an improvement that was worth my phone seeming hotter and battery life decreasing even a little (I'm on my phone alot). I've had the best results just using setcpu and over/underclocking the stock cyanogen kernel.
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prohna said:
There's a bunch in rom manager he can try. Personally I tried a handful and never noticed an improvement that was worth my phone seeming hotter and battery life decreasing even a little (I'm on my phone alot). I've had the best results just using setcpu and over/underclocking the stock cyanogen kernel.
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Thanks for the reply. Yeah, cyanogen was the first thing I flashed for him. haha
Thanks again.
What Rom is he running?
I know of no compatible Cyanogenmod 6.0.0 kernels in the Rom Manager, but I could be wrong.
Kernels are pointless, all they do is eat your battery.
I have to disagree. I've been using OC kernels since first rooting my phone. I personally see a pretty sizeable difference between running 600mhz and 1000 or 1200mhz. There are many kernels out there that run at 1000 on less than the stock voltage. As for the battery life I really haven't noticed a difference. I gan get a full 10 hrs of moderate to heavy use out of my phone before I hit 20% battery. Cruise on over to droidforums.net if you like. They will have everything that you need to set your buddy up
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I rooted my Vivid (AT&T) a long while back, flashed a custom kernel (Faux 007) and tweaked it a fair bit for a cleaner look and better battery life. It helped. Some.
I have work apps installed that are a pain to get authorized and reinstalled, so I'd rather not go through the trouble again if I don't have to. However, I would like to get better battery life out of my phone if I could.
So, anyone have any experience on battery life of root vs ROM? Any particular ROMs/kernels for fantastic battery life? I'm not using sense widgets so doesn't matter if it's sense or stock UI.
TIA
WCX ROM FTW google wcx illuminati and register on his forum. you need 10 posts to download tho
XxSHaDoWxSLaYeRxX said:
WCX ROM FTW google wcx illuminati and register on his forum. you need 10 posts to download tho
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Not to get off topic here, but is WCX a sense based ROM?
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Personally, the Holics ROM 1.3 with Holics 0730 kernel has worked great for me.
SetCPU to control CPU frequency: Max 1.5GHZ, min 350MHZ.
I used the Intellidemand governor, and noop scheduler.
I do NOT use task killers.
I use Lux Auto Brightness to control my screen brightness (highly recommend it!).
I use the APN Switch widget to turn my APN off when not in use (basically always unless I'm sending/receiving an MMS)
I close my apps when I'm done with them.
There is also an app called Llama that you can use to control all kinds of things, like turning wifi on and off based on the time of day and/or your location, etc. It's pretty cool, but I don't use it presently. Here are two examples of my battery life, with moderate usage.
Then ya'll will hate this one. I'm running wahjee's 1.6 de-sensed ROM with everything on. Live wallpapers, notifications, widgets galore and a lot of use...
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envygreen said:
I rooted my Vivid (AT&T) a long while back, flashed a custom kernel (Faux 007) and tweaked it a fair bit for a cleaner look and better battery life. It helped. Some.
I have work apps installed that are a pain to get authorized and reinstalled, so I'd rather not go through the trouble again if I don't have to. However, I would like to get better battery life out of my phone if I could.
So, anyone have any experience on battery life of root vs ROM? Any particular ROMs/kernels for fantastic battery life? I'm not using sense widgets so doesn't matter if it's sense or stock UI.
TIA
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with rom and battery life it is easier to try the different ones for yourself to see which gives you better life, each device and person will have different experiences. I had good experiences with all of them but what worked good for me may not for you.
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with rom and battery life it is easier to try the different ones for yourself to see which gives you better life, each device and person will have different experiences. I had good experiences with all of them but what worked good for me may not for you.
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Agreed. I think more than anything it comes down to two things: your screen-on time, and your cell-searching time. If you are in a low-signal area a lot (like the woods or a basement, or worse - a basement in the woods (!!!)) you can expect to get poor battery life on just about anything. Also, if you're playing angry birds every waking moment, you're going to bleed your batter dry. Simple as that.
If you live in a good signal area, and have screen brightness as low as possible, you're already in a good spot. Any tweaks you can do might help, but probably not by 12+ hours.
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Agreed. I think more than anything it comes down to two things: your screen-on time, and your cell-searching time. If you are in a low-signal area a lot (like the woods or a basement, or worse - a basement in the woods (!!!)) you can expect to get poor battery life on just about anything. Also, if you're playing angry birds every waking moment, you're going to bleed your batter dry. Simple as that.
If you live in a good signal area, and have screen brightness as low as possible, you're already in a good spot. Any tweaks you can do might help, but probably not by 12+ hours.
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You know, that's probably my number one issue, I just hadn't thought about it that way. On weekends, I easily last the whole day and have 40% or more left. At work, it's dying fast and often unless I plug it in while I'm at my desk. I'm away from windows and 11 floors up, so the signal is pretty poor.
In normal situations, the battery life does seem improved with the kernel I am using and the rooted/cleaned up bloat. But since I spend most of my time sitting in this chair with almost no signal, I notice that the most.
And as for trying out other ROMS, well we'll see when my contract is up and I pick up another phone so I can tinker to my hearts content while keeping a pristine phone for work. I just don't have the leeway to bork my phone right now.
envygreen said:
I rooted my Vivid (AT&T) a long while back, flashed a custom kernel (Faux 007) and tweaked it a fair bit for a cleaner look and better battery life. It helped. Some.
I have work apps installed that are a pain to get authorized and reinstalled, so I'd rather not go through the trouble again if I don't have to. However, I would like to get better battery life out of my phone if I could.
So, anyone have any experience on battery life of root vs ROM? Any particular ROMs/kernels for fantastic battery life? I'm not using sense widgets so doesn't matter if it's sense or stock UI.
TIA
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When you were using faux's kernel did u remember to rename "mpdecision" and "thermald" to "mpdecison_dis" and "thermald_dis"? Cause that would also be why you didnt really see a bigger difference in performance with his kernel.
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Then ya'll will hate this one. I'm running wahjee's 1.6 de-sensed ROM with everything on. Live wallpapers, notifications, widgets galore and a lot of use...
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PACman ROM. this thread is sorta old, but yeah
As someone who has tried (and failed) to switch from iOS to Android in the past, I feel I should share this with other who maybe have the same problem.
I have tried some many android devices, HTC, Galaxy S, S2 then S3. Galaxy Note, you name it I've gave it a go.
Problem I always had was that it was too laggy or had too many things missing for me that I loved about iOS
I have once again taken the plunge with the Nexus 4.
I LOVE this phone. LOVE. It is everything a phone should be, to a point. It's the best android phone i've ever owned. I hate the look of touchwiz, never a massive fan of sense, the sheer beauty of the "people" app, should be enough to tell you that google has ARRIVED.
My only bug bears are the obvious lack of storage, which i'm actually doing suprisngly well with, like I have an N7 which I watch films / tv shows on, so the N4 is basically for music, along with spotify it's working like a dream (also have google play with 16,000 songs, which is working well, although download speeds are awful)
The other biggy, and this is the one is the battery life, I've tried franco kernel, cm10, stock kernel, etc etc. There's no two ways about it, with the screen turned on and using 3G it EATS the battery and that saddens me a lot. I'm lucky that I can charge it at work, but lordy lordy lord does it eat a lot. It's a shame, I'm hoping in the future they'll be a fix for this, I mean it's not a show stopper, but it's more annoying than anything else, seeing the battery go down as you use it for browsing and listening to music etc
Other than that, I think I've finally done it, I've finally broken the iOS spell and made the move. I'm delighted, the phone is lovely to look at, lovely to hold and use (and actually works unlike my f*cking iphone which dropped calls left right and centre)
I'm chuffed
Congrats man. It's pretty normal for a new phone to have horrible battery life at first, but then to get a big improvement with software updates.
Suprised that Franco's kernel isn't helping you though.
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Congrats man. It's pretty normal for a new phone to have horrible battery life at first, but then to get a big improvement with software updates.
Suprised that Franco's kernel isn't helping you though.
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Am wondering if maybe it's something im doing wrong. I may well try and do anything wipe and re-install from scratch etc
Appreciate the reply.
Just switched from galaxy nexus running 4.2 to the iPhone 5. Not sure what to do, spent a bunch on the phone missing android big time.
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How long would u say the nexus 4 is lasting u? Full day?
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Just switched from galaxy nexus running 4.2 to the iPhone 5. Not sure what to do, spent a bunch on the phone missing android big time.
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How long would u say the nexus 4 is lasting u? Full day?
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yeah im getting a full day probably, but it's obviously dependant on use.
try faux kernel. undervolt by -100mv on all frequencies, lower your max frequency to 1134, and change governor to intellidemand. you should see better battery life then:thumbup:
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lowrider262 said:
try faux kernel. undervolt by -100mv on all frequencies, lower your max frequency to 1134, and change governor to intellidemand. you should see better battery life then:thumbup:
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okay .... i'll give it a go, dont suppose you have a link to faux kernel app do you?
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okay .... i'll give it a go, dont suppose you have a link to faux kernel app do you?
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faux kernel app is a paid app on the play store. i use trickster mod to change frequency/governor, and system tuner to change voltages. both are free from the play store. just remember to hit the"apply" button if you use trickster mod. also use one of faux's latest beta kernels. I think its up to 003b10
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faux kernel app is a paid app on the play store. i use trickster mod to change frequency/governor, and system tuner to change voltages. both are free from the play store. just remember to hit the"apply" button if you use trickster mod
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ahh thanks man, appreciate the help
I cant help but think though, that phone manufacturers should stop worrying about siz and weight and just stick a slightly better battery in. I mean a couple off mm and a few grams is hardly gonna put people off buying a phone.
I know for me the first thing i look at is "Battery Life" not size and weight.
I mean look at the iphone 5, it's too ****ing thin, make it the same size as 4s and stick a bigger battery in ffs
Definitely I know for myself that I'm happy with anything below 1.5cm which we know would give a lot more battery life,shame we are stuck with manufacturer's going for thinner phones and the only company to buck the trend is Motorola however their phones currently suck .
Battery life is improving for me I have narrowed it down to the radio, it seems mobile data destroys it much more than ant other phone I have used...WiFi performance is amazing and idle well I can say its the best. This was on the matr1x 4.0 kernel, not stock however.
Not sure why mobile data kills this device but WiFi efficiency is through the roof at least
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faux kernel app is a paid app on the play store. i use trickster mod to change frequency/governor, and system tuner to change voltages. both are free from the play store. just remember to hit the"apply" button if you use trickster mod. also use one of faux's latest beta kernels. I think its up to 003b10
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hi
have installed faux kernel changed the first couple in trickster but am unsure of how and what to change voltage wise in system tuner ???
any advice ?
Battery life is definitely a problem when using a phone with mobile data on. That's Google's mistake with android 4.2 and hopefully be fixed on 4.2.2.
Also congrats on moving to Android. I also moved from iPhone to android. To nexus s to be exact. The experience wasn't lag free but it did what I needed to and I loved the customization that android brought. Since then, been using android, but only nexus devices as I love pure android look
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I cant help but think though, that phone manufacturers should stop worrying about siz and weight and just stick a slightly better battery in. I mean a couple off mm and a few grams is hardly gonna put people off buying a phone.
I know for me the first thing i look at is "Battery Life" not size and weight.
I mean look at the iphone 5, it's too ****ing thin, make it the same size as 4s and stick a bigger battery in ffs
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you realize that the iPhone's battery is about 1400 mAh right? the secret here is an efficient yet limited software.
that's not to say that the 2100 mAh is not big enough for an Android device. it should do just as good if not better than the S3, which has a similar sized battery. something certainly is not working as intended. some say a buggy radio, others speak of the 4.2 and hardware not optimized. whatever it is, i am hopeful that a software update will take care of it.
i generally agree with the OP, i don't see myself using skinned Android anymore. stock android>IOS>skinned android.
Vanilla android >jail broken iOS>90" TV's
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gsusx said:
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have installed faux kernel changed the first couple in trickster but am unsure of how and what to change voltage wise in system tuner ???
any advice ?
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open system tuner, press the voltage button, the first voltage (384) should be 900mv. press the -12.5mv a few times until that first one says 800mv, now they're all lowered by 100 you can go further if you want, some chips can handle -150 no problem. but in my experience 100 is pretty safe and enough to notice a difference in battery
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Android is already better than iOS in terms of users anyway, I would like to just pick at the part of Jobs making the touchscreen...he didnt it was infact HTC that made the first capacitive touchscreen device, Apple just put together all the same hardware 5 years later and marketed the crap out of it which is great its typical apple and now we have an amazing market where Android exists and these high end smartphones are popular and back in the market .
That's apple all over though really isnt it
I mean archos brought out an Mp3 player with video about 3 years before apple did it on the ipod, apple then claimed they invented that, along with the wheel, dinosaurs, and the earth
If you guys are worried about the battery I highly recommend an external battery pack. I know they look sorta gimmicky like that stocking stuffer present you get and never use but there are some sleek looking ones that match the beauty of the nexus 4 and are easy to use. Its sorta like carrying another phone around in terms of weight/size.
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The op said he has access to a charger so what is the problem? It is not like we are in the woods.
You are using a personal computer. If you sit down and listen to music and have the screen on how long do you expect it to last?
I also listen to podcasts bit I know of I do this I will not get an entire day.
When I use the phone normally I get great battery life. Just go into your apps in the panel and look under running. Use titanium backup to freezing what you don't need.
Good luck..
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Quick question, when i have the option to overclock, it lets me choose the clock speed for each core, do i use the same clock speed for each core?
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Quick question, when i have the option to overclock, it lets me choose the clock speed for each core, do i use the same clock speed for each core?
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I don't want to sound rude, but if you have such questions, why do you experiment with such settings? I would suggest you read a bit _before_ you brick your device. The last thing you should do before reading a lot is overclocking a mobile device. And flashing some partitions.
Don't take this personal. I want you to have your One a little longer...
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I don't want to sound rude, but if you have such questions, why do you experiment with such settings? I would suggest you read a bit _before_ you brick your device. The last thing you should do before reading a lot is overclocking a mobile device. And flashing some partitions.
Don't take this personal. I want you to have your One a little longer...
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Haha, im not offended
I do know a fair bit about rooting, overclocking etc. my first smartphone was the HTC Hero, and i rooted that and overclocked it and installed a custom rom etc. So im not new (kind of). The thing is, since then, i've had a WP7 and an iPhone 5, so i've been out of the game for a while now.
I'm not that stupid to overclock it fully and leave it on performance etc.. maybe up to 1.9GHz whilst on charge. Just wanted to know what to do about setting for each core individually?
It depends. I leave mine a little overclocked but do not invest any headache in individual cores. Let the kernel decide when to wake things and when not to. The guys hacking that stuff do an amazing job ... far better than any configurable 'workaround' could achieve...
My 2 cents: slightly overclock, but leave 'system stuff' to the component that can handle it best. The kernel.
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