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I already overclock and undervolt my Galaxy S running Darky 8.1 with SUpero Optimize Kernel 4_6_8. But I'm not sure that this clock frequency will be safe for my device.
Hi Luke.
First of all i wouldn't recommend it at all.
Why...???
First of all, this is an expensive mobile phone.
When we put custom ROM's inside we are always doing it with a risk to get our phones ''bricked'' or unresponsive.
For example,
i have OC my PC's proccessor and i did it on purpose, but when you OC it,
your proccessor's life-time is decreasing and the question is...how long will it work!
So it's the same thing for SGS, how long will it work and is your proccessor going to get fried up.
So for me now...i'll stick to the darky's custom rom and nothing else.
LukeSP said:
I already overclock and undervolt my Galaxy S running Darky 8.1 with SUpero Optimize Kernel 4_6_8. But I'm not sure that this clock frequency will be safe for my device.
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Its up to you. I have it OC. Firstly, Overclocking doesnt mean that the processor is going to run at 1.2Ghz all the time. On the contrary, you can govern the speed of your processor and it runs to 1.2Ghz only when it needs to. For example, after using Voltage tool, use SetCpu and there you can set the mode to conservative or on-demand. Go to Info tab and there you can see for how long certain frequency/CPU speed was used and you will see different values are used, not just 1.2Ghz.
As for the safety part, Putting a custom ROM, Rooting etc is already the way your phone is not supposed to be used, risking the life and warranty.
So, it depends how you look at it. I recommend it.
Essence is its up to you and your choice to take the risk involved .
jje
Charlie Wax said:
Hi Luke.
First of all i wouldn't recommend it at all.
Why...???
First of all, this is an expensive mobile phone.
When we put custom ROM's inside we are always doing it with a risk to get our phones ''bricked'' or unresponsive.
For example,
i have OC my PC's proccessor and i did it on purpose, but when you OC it,
your proccessor's life-time is decreasing and the question is...how long will it work!
So it's the same thing for SGS, how long will it work and is your proccessor going to get fried up.
So for me now...i'll stick to the darky's custom rom and nothing else.
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theres a reason you can overclock a cpu alot more than stock, fans, coolants etc.
a computer chip needs to work whether its in the hottest climate and the coldest and thats why youve got scope to overclock the ass of the cpu if you got the fans , pipes, water blah blah blah
so the cpu overclock and the phone overclock are totaly different
regards
thebazman said:
theres a reason you can overclock a cpu alot more than stock, fans, coolants etc.
a computer chip needs to work whether its in the hottest climate and the coldest and thats why youve got scope to overclock the ass of the cpu if you got the fans , pipes, water blah blah blah
so the cpu overclock and the phone overclock are totaly different
regards
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So would you be so kind to explain us the differences between those two things...
From my point of view...it is the same thing, the CPU will not always work at full load, as darky once said there is no need for overclocking or dual-core cpu on mobile phones.
The problem is not in the hardware, it's inside the software.
K to the question.
It is relative "safe" if you know how to do it, but not much point of doing it.
I used to have it Overclocked but saw only the slightest difference.
I think you better off with what you are on mate.
Unless you are bored want to try it out
Charlie Wax said:
So would you be so kind to explain us the differences between those two things...
From my point of view...it is the same thing, the CPU will not always work at full load, as darky once said there is no need for overclocking or dual-core cpu on mobile phones.
The problem is not in the hardware, it's inside the software.
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if you say theres no difference then fine. ive just explained why you can overclock a pc cpu.
a mobile phone processor and its cooling system is different dont you think?
well if someone says dont overclock your pc cause theres no need, would you follow that instruction ?
regards
btw im not saying your better of overclocking or not, its up to the individual to research or read im just pointing out theres a big difference from pc cpu and phone cpu
It depends...on my primary usage of PC.
I'm a photographer, so i need lot of CPU and RAM power, but according to that i have adequate cooling system.
But my point is overclocking is always the same thing, raising your voltage and CPU speed. Mobile phone actually doesn't need OC, the usage of CPU is written inside the program, application, software...you name it.
I agree with you that cooling is different, but c'mon mate, do u really see that big difference.
Charlie Wax said:
It depends...on my primary usage of PC.
I'm a photographer, so i need lot of CPU and RAM power, but according to that i have adequate cooling system.
But my point is overclocking is always the same thing, raising your voltage and CPU speed. Mobile phone actually doesn't need OC, the usage of CPU is written inside the program, application, software...you name it.
I agree with you that cooling is different, but c'mon mate, do u really see that big difference.
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you keep talking as if iv said ive overclocked my phone , i havnt
i just gave a pov on the differences thats all
regards
I overclocked my SGS to 1.2GHz because of Dungeon Defenders. It was unplayable with many creatures and players. After OC, the difference is huge. No problems with overheating or freezing.
How to OC SGS on Darky's ROM 9.1 with SO Kernel?
Is there any tutorial? Anybody can explain me how to OC to 1.2Ghz?
You can use Galaxy tuner app from market
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Overclocking always has risks, except on platforms designed to accommodate it. Don't overclock your phone if you rely on it for everyday use.
I have my phone at 1.3ghz for everyday use. No lagfix, its buttery smooth! I'll never go back.
I don't think its safe
Searching Google for other peoples opinion on this. I have over clocked at times and the difference is small unless you are looking at benchmarks.
I think what people don't realize is that each cpu has an average life span at its given clock speed. When you over clock i can say 100% for certain you are decreasing its life.
The decrease may be so small that the phone is going to be outdated before it dies or it could be great enough that one day in 3 months time your phone just dies and there is not really any way of knowing for sure.
So id say if you are going to over clock just be aware of that as a lot of people seam to think as long as you use profiles and don't let it get over a certain temp its doing no damage =P
martan1981 said:
I overclocked my SGS to 1.2GHz because of Dungeon Defenders. It was unplayable with many creatures and players. After OC, the difference is huge. No problems with overheating or freezing.
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strange. I have played DD1 & DD2, with standard 1GHz without any problems.
I'm on insanity cm with glitch kernel, @1.4Ghz for everyday use, very smooth, web pages load in a flash, the time it spends at that frequency is tiny, if I was gaming a guide amount I would probably go down to 1.2Ghz to be safe as it would probably warm up a bit, but I monitor everything carefully, time in state, temp, etc........to me it is worth it, but of course there is a risk, but my contract is 2 years, so phone only has to last that, and if it does fry, how are samsung going to know? They will just replace motherboard, and in any event I'm kind of old fashioned, I take responsibility for my mistakes! Do it and enjoy, or don't and forever wonder!
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Charlie Wax said:
Hi Luke.
First of all i wouldn't recommend it at all.
Why...???
First of all, this is an expensive mobile phone.
When we put custom ROM's inside we are always doing it with a risk to get our phones ''bricked'' or unresponsive.
For example,
i have OC my PC's proccessor and i did it on purpose, but when you OC it,
your proccessor's life-time is decreasing and the question is...how long will it work!
So it's the same thing for SGS, how long will it work and is your proccessor going to get fried up.
So for me now...i'll stick to the darky's custom rom and nothing else.
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yeah i agree,i don c the sense of oc,if u c the current market there r phones wiv 1.5ghz,3d chips an all those high fiv hardware.even a 2ghz dual-core is abt to come.the company has given sgs 1ghz ,but neva said its cool to oc it...i had tried oc once but frankly i dint notice any diff..but its as per personnel wish ,if u wanna oc then its right for u....
Its totally safe as long as you don't be ridiculous about it....I.e most people make kernels capable of oc to 1.7ghz but that's just stupid because you'll fry your processor, I'd say Max....1.5ghz.....oh and btw it eats your battery so I suppose theirs good and bad sides to it
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Can the stock ROM be overclocked?
There are only 10 kinds of people. Those who understand binary math, and those who don't.
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Can the stock ROM be overclocked?
There are only 10 kinds of people. Those who understand binary math, and those who don't.
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the rom isnt what overclocks, its the kernel.
Sooooo...can the stock kernel be overclocked?
There are only 10 kinds of people. Those who understand binary math, and those who don't.
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Sooooo...can the stock kernel be overclocked?
There are only 10 kinds of people. Those who understand binary math, and those who don't.
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From the looks of it no.
And this is more appropriatefor the general section Thanks
Drew
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I'm still trying to figure out why people like to overclock. Is it just for benchmark sake? I've overclocked plenty on my desktop and my old phone and always revert back to stock clock speeds because the difference was almost always a placebo effect that only showed up in benchmarks. Rarely ever a change in real world use.
If you want to know how long I've been tinkering with clock speeds, the first overclock I did was on a Pentium 3 550 I overclocked to 800.
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Bragging rights its the only reason I used to over clock.
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I would prefer to under volt at stock clock speeds to help out with battery life. First and foremost it's a phone. Secondly it's whatever you want it to be (MP3 player, camera, game player, movie player), so battery life is always the issue for me. While I get all day with my current phone (Captivate), I don't like being down to 15-27% at the end of the day.
My contract is up in March so looking at Vivid or Nitro HD as replacements for my Captivate.
I have only been overclocking my Aria because I used my wife's Inspire and got jealous of the snappiness. I use Tasker as my CPU speed selector and it is set to always return to max stock speed if the display gets turned off.
There are only 10 kinds of people. Those who understand binary math, and those who don't.
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I would prefer to under volt at stock clock speeds to help out with battery life. First and foremost it's a phone. Secondly it's whatever you want it to be (MP3 player, camera, game player, movie player), so battery life is always the issue for me. While I get all day with my current phone (Captivate), I don't like being down to 15-27% at the end of the day.
My contract is up in March so looking at Vivid or Nitro HD as replacements for my Captivate.
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I glanced at the Nitro and then looked away quickly once I saw the Vivid.
Hi guys,im new to xda dev.So guide me throughout my life here..Okay erm,so my question is how do i make my galaxy ace run faster in ways like the speed of booting,loading games and stuffs like that.Please answer my question.
Thanks in advance seniors:good:
buy a S2.
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read this.
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=1493377
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=1768181
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=1655823
Not a ton. The ace isn't the fastest phone (800mhz processor stock). If you want a faster phone, I suggest a new one.
Anyway, first is overclocking the processor. The highest stable I think I've seen is 921mhz. This however ends up killing your battery (works the other way around too). For this you need an overclockable kernal (I don't know how to do it or where to get it lol). Another thing you can do is remove useless apps (so thinks like email, Gmail, maps and things that aren't usually used). This will free up some RAM and make sure that you don't have many apps running in the background at the same time. Speaking of RAM, get an app to manage that as well. Don't know how effective it truly is, but its something to do. Get rid of a few things like live wallpapers and FM radio as well as that's a lot of ram and CPU usage right there. Just look for key words in the title such as "light" (for useless apps being removed) and "OC kernal" (for the overclock) and hopefully you'll get what you are looking for.
Oye... I dunno.... I'm no pro at this (I'm not even a dev), but I'm just throwing out suggestions.
Anyway, use search, Google it, and experiment. Hopefully you can get some good performance from this cool little mid range device, but remember, its that, a midrange device. Not gonna beat the S3 anytime soon
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sell it and buy a nexus!
Buy a s3:|
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I own the Galaxy Ace, and there is no way you can make it faster.
I tried so much: Switching Custom ROMs, Uninstalling apps, Overclocking etc.
But they all don't work.
The Ace is cheap, you can't get something as fast as a Galaxy SIII or HTC One X for that price.
The thing is, it is faster or we think it is faster?
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Overclocking is very useful and as others have said, works in a ratio with battery. Once you have rooted your phone, find a custom ROM you like ( I recommend Apocalypse by Itsoulas - it is very, very fast and best for games) because they are brilliant at helping you do what you normally cannot on the stock rom.
Good luck and welcome to Xda! :beer:
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What Ace said is true, but my phone's battery life is already poor without overclocking.
First thing
Since when does the ace has legs ?
It cant run
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Its so easy
1. He wants the best performance right??yes.
So i would prefer the official stable cyanogenmod rom with some tweaks. And maybe not so usefull at all but also overclocking, like many of you said it before.
2. Come on guys we have an almost 2 years old ARMV6 device which was from the first release date since today a midrange or maybe lowend device. So please. Its natural that we cant compare it with quad core or dual core phones, in some cases even not with singlecore armv7 devices.
All in all its a sexy phone with iphone look and acceptable performance at all. AND its still cheap
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Yes, I do know there is another computer questions thread. I want to ask in a seperate thread to keep answers uncluttered. It's not like making a new thread will be the end of the universe, Mod.
I have an i7 2600K, and all I do is play games on it. It is coupled with 8 gigs of ram and an HIS 6950.
What could I do to utilize the real power of this CPU, besides overclocking(I do not want to overclock)?
I wouldn't be surprised if they closed this thread / merged your question to the main thread.
Closed in...3......2....
Run a server for a game such as mine craft
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Yes, I do know there is another computer questions thread. I want to ask in a seperate thread to keep answers uncluttered. It's not like making a new thread will be the end of the universe, Mod.
I have an i7 2600K, and all I do is play games on it. It is coupled with 8 gigs of ram and an HIS 6950.
What could I do to utilize the real power of this CPU, besides overclocking(I do not want to overclock)?
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Why did you get the K model then? 2600= locked clock, K = unlocked, specifically for overclocking. Not sure what else you can do but over clock. Unless you oc your gfx card.
Sent from your mom.
Or decompress huge files for ****s and gigs. But honestly over clock that please.
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FromiOSToAndroid said:
I have an i7 2600K, and all I do is play games on it. It is coupled with 8 gigs of ram and an HIS 6950.
What could I do to utilize the real power of this CPU, besides overclocking(I do not want to overclock)?
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Gaming is utilising your CPU's full potential. Not sure what you're really asking tbh. Are you hoping it will do your ironing and make your dinner for you too?
Overclocking it won't do anything now, cause my CPU usage never goes over 20%. That too, I have a stock cooler an not interested in paying for a custom cooler atm.
Can laptop processors be overclocked.. Core i5 3260M specially..
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FromiOSToAndroid said:
Overclocking it won't do anything now, cause my CPU usage never goes over 20%. That too, I have a stock cooler an not interested in paying for a custom cooler atm.
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If your CPU usage peaks at 20% when you are gaming, there's something seriously wrong with your rig!
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It's not like making a new thread will be the end of the universe, Mod.
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Not a risk I'm willing to take.
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I just got an m7 and I'm trying to figure out how to control the other CPU frequencies. I know on my old s3 I could just run echo them through a script but on here the only CPU with the cpufreq folder is cpu0, I can't seem to find anything on it so does anyone know how to do this?
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jukiewalsh said:
I just got an m7 and I'm trying to figure out how to control the other CPU frequencies. I know on my old s3 I could just run echo them through a script but on here the only CPU with the cpufreq folder is cpu0, I can't seem to find anything on it so does anyone know how to do this?
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If you're rooted, you can install a custom kernel like elemetal IX, this will allow you to set max frequency for each core. Just make sure you're using a compatible ROM, like ARHD. If you're looking for something that will allow on the fly adjustment, I'll have to find something else.
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rmacd02 said:
If you're rooted, you can install a custom kernel like elemetal IX, this will allow you to set max frequency for each core. Just make sure you're using a compatible ROM, like ARHD. If you're looking for something that will allow on the fly adjustment, I'll have to find something else.
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Ohh so it is a kernel specific thing, I thought it could be done on any. Thanks a lot I should be able to figure the rest out from here.
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jukiewalsh said:
Ohh so it is a kernel specific thing, I thought it could be done on any. Thanks a lot I should be able to figure the rest out from here.
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yeah with newer HTC devices you can't change freqs on the fly on stock kernel, because HTC have daemons and stuff to boost CPU and it will always reset it to stock 384-1728MHz
Either you need a kernel with pnpmgr (poewr and performance manager) ndisabled, freqs limited in the kernel source or one with aroma max freq choice
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yeah with newer HTC devices you can't change freqs on the fly on stock kernel, because HTC have daemons and stuff to boost CPU and it will always reset it to stock 384-1728MHz
Either you need a kernel with pnpmgr (poewr and performance manager) ndisabled, freqs limited in the kernel source or one with aroma max freq choice
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Yeah I was having the HTC daemon problem earlier for hours and couldn't set any of my frequencies.. New phones always make you feel like a noob again lol
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jukiewalsh said:
Yeah I was having the HTC daemon problem earlier for hours and couldn't set any of my frequencies.. New phones always make you feel like a noob again lol
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Always, especially when you switch brands!
poondog said:
Always, especially when you switch brands!
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I hate to ask because I could find it myself but do you happen to know of a few other kernels that supports all core control or one you recommend? Elemental x is over a month dated and doesn't have a lot of useful extra governors imo. I'm running android revolution. So far the threads I've checked either don't mention they support it or just don't.
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jukiewalsh said:
I hate to ask because I could find it myself but do you happen to know of a few other kernels that supports all core control or one you recommend? Elemental x is over a month dated and doesn't have a lot of useful extra governors imo. I'm running android revolution. So far the threads I've checked either don't mention they support it or just don't.
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Extra governors are not needed since on demand does the job well, its like a hybrid interactive/ondemand though how it has post freqs etc
I'd recommend elemental, bulletproof, kangaroo (coughcough)
Imo limiting freq doesn't do much for battery.. But you can use power saver mode to limit to 1134mhz and its still super smooth
Extra bells and whistles are not needed and are buzzwords
poondog said:
Extra governors are not needed since on demand does the job well, its like a hybrid interactive/ondemand though how it has post freqs etc
I'd recommend elemental, bulletproof, kangaroo (coughcough)
Imo limiting freq doesn't do much for battery.. But you can use power saver mode to limit to 1134mhz and its still super smooth
Extra bells and whistles are not needed and are buzzwords
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Haha didn't see you were the Dev, I'll give it a run for awhile. And I just mostly don't like how the phone heats up when running at the higher frequencies/voltages but I know on my last phone limiting the CPU speeds seemed to have helped a lot. Overall I'd just rather have longer battery life over performance any day.