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Another good reason to have NS

http://mobile.engadget.com/2010/12/...eon-defenders-first-wave-now-available-for-a/
I purchased this game for $3, but make sure you have wifi connection prior to play game first time (it has to download 700MB of data).

Is it really worth it?

I woukd also like to know.
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I hear mixed things about how it runs on other devices, care to elaborate on your experience with the NS

Makes me want to return my Nexus S and wait for Tegra devices.

DarkAgent said:
Makes me want to return my Nexus S and wait for Tegra devices.
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Im honestly thinking this whole dual core thing is a gimic, one only needs sooo much power in a cell phone

slowz3r said:
Im honestly thinking this whole dual core thing is a gimic, one only needs sooo much power in a cell phone
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I don't care about the dual-core. I am talking about more powerful GPU.

DarkAgent said:
I don't care about the dual-core. I am talking about more powerful GPU.
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hopefully they push out higher rez screens along with that GPU
but back on topic, it really worth 3 bucks?....they really should let the dev choose the return window

slowz3r said:
hopefully they push out higher rez screens along with that GPU
but back on topic, it really worth 3 bucks?....they really should let the dev choose the return window
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its not bad - not the greatest game but not bad. Also it will lag up a little from time to time but looks great and its fun so I would say as a first Unreal Engine game thats not bad and can be enjoyable yeah I dont mind paying 3$

ranxoren said:
its not bad - not the greatest game but not bad. Also it will lag up a little from time to time but looks great and its fun so I would say as a first Unreal Engine game thats not bad and can be enjoyable yeah I dont mind paying 3$
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hmmm im on the edge, im all for paying money for games when its due but iono, for a game im unsure if ill like or play, hard to judge

On a whim, I purchased the game. Pretty solid game with some moderate camera quirks. Soundtrack is nice and I experienced no lag. For $3, I say it's a deal.

I want to get it but idk

One thing I really liked about Windows Phone 7 games, it requires a free demo version in order to be an "Xbox Live" title. Android should have the same requirements if it wants to compete with WP7's gaming prowess, which imo, is the best mobile gaming you can get.

Does any1 know how good the game performs on a HTC desire ?
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mingkee said:
http://mobile.engadget.com/2010/12/...eon-defenders-first-wave-now-available-for-a/
I purchased this game for $3, but make sure you have wifi connection prior to play game first time (it has to download 700MB of data).
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is $2.99 the regular price, or was it higher?
seems like a good quality game to keep in the phone... but wasting 700 MB on this, and not having an External microSD is a big decision to make

AllGamer said:
is $2.99 the regular price, or was it higher?
seems like a good quality game to keep in the phone... but wasting 700 MB on this, and not having an External microSD is a big decision to make
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I purchased it after introduction from engadget, so I don't know.

Finally an unreal engine 3 game on android ...downloading now

I have been playing it for a while and I have to say it is one of the best games on android.

very good game and well worth $3. Playing on NS and the only problem I have is some of the screens seem to not fit properly. Almost like the resolution of the screen isn't high enough to support all the menus in their native size.

Dual core processors are going to be more for efficiency than power. Better battery management and faster processing will in theory reduce battery consumption. None the less, you can count on me buying one

[Q] Nvidia Optimus or Not?

I was thinking of getting a lappy with
310m with i3, with Nvidia Optimus
or
310m with i5, without Nvidia Optimus?
Both are about the same price.
What do you guys think?

Save up for Sandy Bridge. It seems to bring about double the FPS rate in games, without the burden of a discrete card.
But, to answer your question, Optimus will only save battery. If you are looking to save battery, go for the Optimus.
If you are going to have some level of gaming on you laptop, go for the i5. There will be about 5-10 fps increase at least for games.
For reference, I can play COD4 and Dragon Age:Origins on a 210m at 1280*720 resolutions with all eye-candy tuned down.
One last note, if you wanna game, go for a desktop.
p/s: A lot of guesswork here, but I am assuming that you are getting a discrete mobility graphics for gaming amirite?

Well, obviously i5 (that's if I guessed right, and you talking about processors and graphics cards) is gonna be better. Faster at stock etc. Easier to overclock. Will need a higher source of power. About 800hz so the pc will last, as in for future upgrades..
And I don't know much about the card, but put up some details, eg mb/gb etc
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!PANDA said:
Well, obviously i5 (that's if I guessed right, and you talking about processors and graphics cards) is gonna be better. Faster at stock etc. Easier to overclock. Will need a higher source of power. About 800hz so the pc will last, as in for future upgrades..
And I don't know much about the card, but put up some details, eg mb/gb etc
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Erm... I believe that the 310m is a mobility card (read, stuck in laptops), otherwise I would have recommended that he beg his grandmother for cash to buy an AMD Radeon HD6950 NOW.

310m ... i wouldnt even call it a video card , get one with 335m ... theyre also available in $600 budget asus laptops
if u wanna play games , that laptop is gonna die on u , optimus or not
http://www.notebookcheck.net/NVIDIA-GeForce-310M.22439.0.html
http://www.notebookcheck.net/NVIDIA-GeForce-GT-335M.24060.0.html
read both

Don't be nasty... some people really have the budget for only so much... and if you're talking about REAL GPUs...

The max I want to spend is around 600. Heavy gaming is not my forte but Ill be playing some MMORPGS.
Besides the 310m, how much difference is there between the i3 and i5?
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The Core i3-3xxM processors are based on Arrandale, the mobile version of the Clarkdale desktop processor. They are similar to the Core i5-4xx series but running at lower clock speeds and without Turbo Boost.[21]
no turbo boost .. and lower freq ... that means better battery ... the optimus one is looking better for a laptop configuration
but if ur not an nvidia fanatic and just need the best bang for the buck id go with this

Thank you for the input everyone! It made me think a little more!
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fezlopez said:
The max I want to spend is around 600. Heavy gaming is not my forte but Ill be playing some MMORPGS.
Besides the 310m, how much difference is there between the i3 and i5?
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Spot on. MMOs like WoW? The 310m will handle it just fine. The difference between i3 and i5 could be almost 10fps at laptop settings, because the GPU is underpowered.
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The Core i3-3xxM processors are based on Arrandale, the mobile version of the Clarkdale desktop processor. They are similar to the Core i5-4xx series but running at lower clock speeds and without Turbo Boost.[21]
no turbo boost .. and lower freq ... that means better battery ... the optimus one is looking better for a laptop configuration
but if ur not an nvidia fanatic and just need the best bang for the buck id go with this
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Well, the i3 and i5 are on the same architecture, so... turbo boost and higher frequency just means that the processor is more capable if and when it is needed. Gaming is going to suck the hell out of your battery no matter what you do, unless you intentionally cripple your CPU and GPU.
Your suggestion seems a little overpowering, but the specs are good for the price. Nice find

[Q] Overclocking cpu

Hello people
Is it possible to overclock my laptop's CPU?

alex ainsley said:
Hello people
Is it possible to overclock my laptop's CPU?
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Way wrong place to ask this. I think.
But yes, depending on brand, etc.

ok sorry where should i ask that ^^ question

Try the off topic forum.
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Depends what motherbaord and CPU you have

You can OC a laptop, but the thermal cooling won't work well. It's best NOT to do it.

well I've got due core Pentiums, but tell me this... if it's possible to overclock my pc just with some coding, like when your rooting a android phone ?

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well I've got due core Pentiums, but tell me this... if it's possible to overclock my pc just with some coding, like when your rooting a android phone ?
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Yes, you probably can... doesn't mean you should do it. Did I mention it'll kill your CPU faster than you can say gigahertz?
Just google around for the exact model of your CPU and overclocking.
But you shouldn't though.

Ok I don't want to kill my pc so I wont to it.
But if there's a safe way of doing it like doing it with android phones then let me know.

Even what we do with the Androids aren't good. The underclock is there to reduce battery consumption.

Overclocking your processor should be done with extreme caution. The excess heat caused can be fatal to the core and anything around it. The best cooling method is always liquid nitrogen.

real men overclock to the max .
that said , oc is done in the bios 90% of the time and 95% of the lappys wont even have an oc option in the bios

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Overclocking your processor should be done with extreme caution. The excess heat caused can be fatal to the core and anything around it. The best cooling method is always liquid nitrogen.
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Right... keep the liquid nitro on your laptop...
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souljaboy said:
real men overclock to the max .
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So I should have my phone running at 2Ghz all the time

MacaronyMax said:
So I should have my phone running at 2Ghz all the time
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well i know i have mine screen on at 1.54g(max) ... but 2ghz .. impressive

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well i know i have mine screen on at 1.54g(max) ... but 2ghz .. impressive
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Haha Thanks

I do not see the purpose of overclocking. The phone works fast enough. But if it gets you excited...
SGS

just use setFSB:
http://www13.plala.or.jp/setfsb/

It is possible to overclock any CPU
But the problem with laptop is that usually they run very hot with the stock clock settings,
as soon as you overclock it makes the CPU run faster but Hotter as well and you run the risk of causing permanent damage to your laptop, Best not to do it,
Plus it will greatly reduce battery life

Unscrew the bottom of your laptop, scrap the stock heatsink for a corsair watercooler kit, up the FSB bus until the RAM melts....
...profit!

Pop quiz! AMD or Intel?

So I'm working on my new computer, and I need help! I'm looking into bulldozer, but it keeps getting delayed. I feel like we may be seeing i9 before Bulldozer.
I'm looking for good performance, for a little bit less.
Opinions? No flaming!

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So I'm working on my new computer, and I need help! I'm looking into bulldozer, but it keeps getting delayed. I feel like we may be seeing i9 before Bulldozer.
I'm looking for good performance, for a little bit less.
Opinions? No flaming!
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The Intel Core i5 would be nice.....because I've not been following up on AMD lately.....
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AMD fanboy since day one. Seriously, just buy whatever you can afford.

It depends. What do you plan on using this rig for?
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Currently i7 rules but bulldozer and ivy-bridge may change that
Also it'll depend on ur budget and what you plan using the rig for

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It depends. What do you plan on using this rig for?
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Development.
And i7 is far to many $$$
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Well if i7 is out of your budget an AMD Phenom II x6 is real cheap right now with bulldozer around the corner (This is what I currently have).
I honestly would wait for bulldozer so you aren't feeling buyers remorse once it comes out. I highly doubt you will be able to afford ivy bridge if you can't afford i7. Intel is soo pricey.

if ur budget is less than 500$ than amd if more than that move to intel..

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Development.
And i7 is far to many $$$
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I recommend those fast i5s .
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2600K at 300$

I have the quad core i5 750 Oc'ed to 4Ghz with no problems and only a cheap upgrade to stock cooling.
It FLIES!
Half the cost of an i7 too
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How did u oc it?
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How did u oc it?
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jsplace said:
I have the quad core i5 750 Oc'ed to 4Ghz with no problems and only a cheap upgrade to stock cooling.
It FLIES!
Half the cost of an i7 too
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Have a first generation core I5 processor coupled to am Asus motherboard !! Overclocked from stock 2.8 ghz to 3.5 ghz with just the right air cooling products and a good processor fan and heat sink combo !
Tapashocked via my gt-I9003 with a random keyboard of my choice !

Amd. Will not buy intel.
-My life is a shooting range, people never change-

had you asked this question 2-3 years ago I would have said Amd hands down. On-die memory controller used to make all the difference. Now that Intel has on-die memory controllers with their core i3/5/7 line, Amd is definitely lagging behind in performance. I'd still recomend a black edition phenom II x4 or x6 for someone who loves to tweak and game out, but if you've got the cash, Intel sure seems to be the ring leader lately.
I had a 9550 BE phenom I, in a nice desktop system, ran it at 3ghz stable, was a fast box. Was given an hp dv6-3050ca which has an i5 in it, with the fancy on die memory controller and video acceleration. Wow was I EVER impressed at the progress intel has made, I even managed to run fallout new vegas at 15-20fps on low settings on this thing. We're talking intel graphics here, integrated. They've made leaps and bounds in the past few years. I currently have a Core i7 720qm sitting in a asus g73jh; I'd say it has a bit of a low clock speed with all 4 cores engaged, but with 8 threads, what's the difference. Takes a Phenom II x6 to match the same level of performance. Though either can be had new for about the same price.
Intel i7's are pricey as all hell, and unless you've got cash to dump and are looking for extreme performance, you'll probably be more than happy with an Amd. If you're looking to game matching up a nice Amd/Ati motherboard with an Ati video card, really does wonders in terms of compatibility, I've built a few myself and they were painless builds. Intels tend to be more efficient, expecially in the mobile arena. There's something sexy about a 140W cpu though, and that's where the phenom II line shines, they chew up power like nazi's chew up amphetamines, and they chew through like raped apes.
All in all amd is a good start/middleroad for the money, but for true high end power, or mobile efficiency stick to intel. I've noticed a trend across all cpu manufacturers, the more on die cache, the better. 2mb extra cache is worth more than 600mhz, imho.
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I think the biggest problem of AMD is compatibility. Usually They don't work truely in some Linux Distros.

Pure preference. What's your budget?

Hmmm, sounds like i5 it is. Thanks guys!

Chandelure said:
Hmmm, sounds like i5 it is. Thanks guys!
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one more thing, AMD heats fast. it can cook your PC within 8 hours

[Q] ElementalX Kernal?

Quick question, when i have the option to overclock, it lets me choose the clock speed for each core, do i use the same clock speed for each core?

GianFrangiamore said:
Quick question, when i have the option to overclock, it lets me choose the clock speed for each core, do i use the same clock speed for each core?
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I don't want to sound rude, but if you have such questions, why do you experiment with such settings? I would suggest you read a bit _before_ you brick your device. The last thing you should do before reading a lot is overclocking a mobile device. And flashing some partitions.
Don't take this personal. I want you to have your One a little longer...
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kosique said:
I don't want to sound rude, but if you have such questions, why do you experiment with such settings? I would suggest you read a bit _before_ you brick your device. The last thing you should do before reading a lot is overclocking a mobile device. And flashing some partitions.
Don't take this personal. I want you to have your One a little longer...
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Haha, im not offended
I do know a fair bit about rooting, overclocking etc. my first smartphone was the HTC Hero, and i rooted that and overclocked it and installed a custom rom etc. So im not new (kind of). The thing is, since then, i've had a WP7 and an iPhone 5, so i've been out of the game for a while now.
I'm not that stupid to overclock it fully and leave it on performance etc.. maybe up to 1.9GHz whilst on charge. Just wanted to know what to do about setting for each core individually?

It depends. I leave mine a little overclocked but do not invest any headache in individual cores. Let the kernel decide when to wake things and when not to. The guys hacking that stuff do an amazing job ... far better than any configurable 'workaround' could achieve...
My 2 cents: slightly overclock, but leave 'system stuff' to the component that can handle it best. The kernel.
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