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since all the hardware specs are the same besides the atrix having 1gb LP DDR2 ram and the O2X/G2X having 512mb DDR2 ram, how does the O2X/G2X out benchmark the atrix in all the programs tested except for linpack and sunspider (linpack doesn't really count since it doesn't seem to play nice with dual core)?
here's the link to the benchmarks androidandme.com/2011/03/news/tegra-2-benchmarks-motorola-atrix-4g-vs-lg-optimus-2x
even though the atrix has higher resolution, someone did the calcluations:
The Motorola Atrix 4G is 540 x 960 = 518400 pixels
At 55fps * 518000 pixels = 28490000 pixels per second
The LG Optimus 2X is 800 x 480 = 384000 pixels
At 77fps * 384000 pixels = 29568000 pixels per second
29568000 / 28490000 = 1.038.
So the screen resolution explains most of the difference but the Optimus is still ~4% faster.
4% may not seem like much, but keep in mind the optimus 2x has half the ram.
There must be something I'm missing.
You can't really just compare screen resolutions like that. GPU drivers could be different. 4% is really not much. Ram doesn't really make a phone faster as such. It just let's it keep more stuff in memory so it doesn't have to be reloaded.
I know 4% isnt much but what confuses me is that its the phone with half the ram that gets better performance. And for computers the biggest performance boost possible is from ram. But i guess if they arent utilizing the amount of ram available thats a different story
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I know 4% isnt much but what confuses me is that its the phone with half the ram that gets better performance. And for computers the biggest performance boost possible is from ram. But i guess if they arent utilizing the amount of ram available thats a different story
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The reason PCs with low ram get's slow is because in order to get room for more data/programs in ram they start using the extremely slow disk as 'backup' for the ram (swap). Android doesn't do that... It just closes old running programs.
xdmds said:
I know 4% isnt much but what confuses me is that its the phone with half the ram that gets better performance. And for computers the biggest performance boost possible is from ram. But i guess if they arent utilizing the amount of ram available thats a different story
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RAM isn't tested by these benchmarks.
@Real world: Atrix is faster than O2X accept you love game on mobile. Quadrant show me Atrix is faster in CPU, RAM, I/O; slower in graphic. Totally, Atrix faster.
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@Real world: Atrix is faster than O2X accept you love game on mobile. Quadrant show me Atrix is faster in CPU, RAM, I/O; slower in graphic. Totally, Atrix faster.
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No, I don't think you're correct:
http://androidandme.com/2011/03/news/tegra-2-benchmarks-motorola-atrix-4g-vs-lg-optimus-2x/
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No, I don't think you're correct:
http://androidandme.com/2011/03/news/tegra-2-benchmarks-motorola-atrix-4g-vs-lg-optimus-2x/
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As I said in real world. Benchmark can't show how you use it. Atrix has 1GB of Ram vs O2X has 512MB so you will not feel any lagging with Atrix, but O2X lag with multitasking or using phone long time since boot. I have both of them now.
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As I said in real world. Benchmark can't show how you use it. Atrix has 1GB of Ram vs O2X has 512MB so you will not feel any lagging with Atrix, but O2X lag with multitasking or using phone long time since boot. I have both of them now.
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funny. cause i can see lots of lags in motoblur's atrix. heck even the pinch to zoom on photos in atrix's 3d gallery is choppy ( i should know cause my brother has one and he hated it so much- im not trolling)
on "MY REAL WORLD" optimus 2x is a lot faster. even on gaming.
and became 'FASTEST" with all the modifications done by Paul and the other devs of optimus 2x.
unlocked bootloader is sweet.
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As I said in real world. Benchmark can't show how you use it. Atrix has 1GB of Ram vs O2X has 512MB so you will not feel any lagging with Atrix, but O2X lag with multitasking or using phone long time since boot. I have both of them now.
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Look, I think it's marginal and I do agree that the greater amount of RAM offers much better overhead.
But, I still disagree in principle and yes, I've used both. I can get both to lag - my perception was that the O2x seemed faster when it wasn't bugging out.
I still believe that bug free software will always seem faster on the O2x until the resolution performance hit can be resolved with qHD displays.
Don't both those phones have ddr ram not ddr2?
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Don't both those phones have ddr ram not ddr2?
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The g2x/o2x has 512mb ddr2 sdram while the atrix has 1gb lpddr2 sdram
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funny. cause i can see lots of lags in motoblur's atrix. heck even the pinch to zoom on photos in atrix's 3d gallery is choppy ( i should know cause my brother has one and he hated it so much- im not trolling)
on "MY REAL WORLD" optimus 2x is a lot faster. even on gaming.
and became 'FASTEST" with all the modifications done by Paul and the other devs of optimus 2x.
unlocked bootloader is sweet.
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I agree with you about unlocked bootloader.
On gaming, of course O2X is faster. But with Gingerblur + some unwanted file removed, Atrix will be faster than O2X . No lag in 3D Gallery. Maybe your brother's Atrix run default ( with Motoblur ).
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Look, I think it's marginal and I do agree that the greater amount of RAM offers much better overhead.
But, I still disagree in principle and yes, I've used both. I can get both to lag - my perception was that the O2x seemed faster when it wasn't bugging out.
I still believe that bug free software will always seem faster on the O2x until the resolution performance hit can be resolved with qHD displays.
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I agree with you about Ram and qHD only
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I agree with you about Ram and qHD only
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You should update you info, since it says you only have an Atrix.
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You should update you info, since it says you only have an Atrix.
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Ok! I will do if I keep it about more than 1 month
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I agree with you about unlocked bootloader.
On gaming, of course O2X is faster. But with Gingerblur + some unwanted file removed, Atrix will be faster than O2X . No lag in 3D Gallery. Maybe your brother's Atrix run default ( with Motoblur ).
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And with MCR or other modified MCR roms and custom kernels. O2x performance became very satisfying and fast.
Unlocked bootloader ftw!
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And with MCR or other modified MCR roms and custom kernels. O2x performance became very satisfying and fast.
Unlocked bootloader ftw!
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LOL I wish side by side with you to compare real world performance between A4G and O2X. When both phones be upgraded to gingerbread, we will talk again
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No, overall performance is - and that is influenced by RAM.
Less RAM might actually help performance, depending on the efficiency of the setup and the quality of the hardware.
This phone has the potential to be a beast. This has nothing to with the Evo 3D but you might as well read up a bit while you guys wait for ICS.
http://www.engadget.com/2012/02/22/lg-optimus-4x-hd-unveiled-quad-core-tegra-3-ice-cream-sandwich/
Damn, this phone looks like it will raise the bar for all the other phones, just like the Evo 4G did.
4.7 inch, HD (could be higher def), quad core - the perfect phone for mobile gaming
Pretty much. I think it will need a bigger battery. 2000+ or whatever won't cut it.
That phone does indeed look like a beast, and I look forward to MWC 2012, where I hope that HTC can deliver an equally beastly phone
Funny thing is, with all the negativity surrounding its predecessor, the Optimus 2X, previous owners are highly skeptical lol. They hate LG with a passion.
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http://www.engadget.com/2012/02/23/lgs-upcoming-mwc-lineup-runs-into-some-italians-gets-documente/
engadget just dropped a video looks so smooth its in italian thou lol
im digging it so far. only thing im waiting to see is if a quad core a15 chip gets dropped at MWC. the tegra 3 is nice and im sure the exynos quad core will be very nice but they r both a9's. i believe the dual core a15's match up or beat the a9 quad cores so imagine an a15 quad core dont take my word for it thou haha im pretty sure i read that somewhere
only a couple days left cant wait. ill most likely get a dual core a15 over a tegra 3 need to see how they stack up next to each other!
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Yep... Pretty much
dylan6879 said:
http://www.engadget.com/2012/02/23/lgs-upcoming-mwc-lineup-runs-into-some-italians-gets-documente/
engadget just dropped a video looks so smooth its in italian thou lol
im digging it so far. only thing im waiting to see is if a quad core a15 chip gets dropped at MWC. the tegra 3 is nice and im sure the exynos quad core will be very nice but they r both a9's. i believe the dual core a15's match up or beat the a9 quad cores so imagine an a15 quad core dont take my word for it thou haha im pretty sure i read that somewhere
only a couple days left cant wait. ill most likely get a dual core a15 over a tegra 3 need to see how they stack up next to each other!
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Texas instruments just showcased dualcore A15 omap.it beats the tegra 3 and its just clocked at 800mhz.so imagine a 2ghz one.
Full article here
http://www.slashgear.com/ti-omap-5-blows-past-quadcore-tegra-3-23215003/
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Texas instruments just showcased dualcore A15 omap.it beats the tegra 3 and its just clocked at 800mhz.so imagine a 2ghz one.
Full article here
http://www.slashgear.com/ti-omap-5-blows-past-quadcore-tegra-3-23215003/
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Ha yeah I thought so. That's insane can't wait to see these things fly I'll be skipping the whole quad core trend for one of these unless of course there happens to be some magical quad core a15. Performance over big numbers haha.. hope Sprint shows something off at MWC even thou they normally don't.
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dylan6879 said:
Ha yeah I thought so. That's insane can't wait to see these things fly I'll be skipping the whole quad core trend for one of these unless of course there happens to be some magical quad core a15. Performance over big numbers haha.. hope Sprint shows something off at MWC even thou they normally don't.
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have fun waiting till Q1 2013.
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I haven't heard anything about a microsd card in this thing yet. Am I missing something or does that seem to be the case? I don't want anything to do with a phone that doesn't have microsd.
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have fun waiting till Q1 2013.
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well now i meant an a15 processor TI isnt the only company announcing them. wait now that i look r they i thought there was more? what is the new sanpdragon krait based on? someone knowledgable chime in pls! and for the moment i dont mind waiting haha my 3d is still perfect in my eyes im just a tech junkie and whenever there is something new i either sell mine or hand it on down in the family and jump on the newest
wish it was as easy to do with my car
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well now i meant an a15 processor TI isnt the only company announcing them. wait now that i look r they i thought there was more? what is the new sanpdragon krait based on? someone knowledgable chime in pls! and for the moment i dont mind waiting haha my 3d is still perfect in my eyes im just a tech junkie and whenever there is something new i either sell mine or hand it on down in the family and jump on the newest
wish it was as easy to do with my car
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Pretty sure Qualcomm's S4 chips r A15 based, also being built with 28nm processing...that's where the difference is being seen. Smaller chips much more efficient in the end.
What's funny is Samsung is going to be showing off their new chips at MWC and they only went down to 32nm with A9 cores for the quad chip shown on engadget...
Thought it was a tad odd though Samsung only making it to 32nm while everyone else is pushing for 28nm and lower. Hell Intel stated they are shooting for 14nm at CES if i remember right! They will be one to keep an eye on in the long run. Imho
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Garbage
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Pretty sure Qualcomm's S4 chips r A15 based, also being built with 28nm processing...that's where the difference is being seen. Smaller chips much more efficient in the end.
What's funny is Samsung is going to be showing off their new chips at MWC and they only went down to 32nm with A9 cores for the quad chip shown on engadget...
Thought it was a tad odd though Samsung only making it to 32nm while everyone else is pushing for 28nm and lower. Hell Intel stated they are shooting for 14nm at CES if i remember right! They will be one to keep an eye on in the long run. Imho
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i thought the snapdragon s4 was but i wasnt sure, tried to search it and couldnt find anywere that mentions its an a15 although im sure it is. was thinking the same thing as i read that everyone is going to 28nm and samsung of everyone is only going down to 32nm but u know it will be a very nice one.
definitely need to keep an eye on intel i havent been impressed with what theyve shown off so far but them being intel they have the background and resources to make some serious competition around here. 14nm is crazy mwc hasnt even started and i cant wait for ces..
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Pretty sure Qualcomm's S4 chips r A15 based, also being built with 28nm processing...that's where the difference is being seen. Smaller chips much more efficient in the end.
What's funny is Samsung is going to be showing off their new chips at MWC and they only went down to 32nm with A9 cores for the quad chip shown on engadget...
Thought it was a tad odd though Samsung only making it to 32nm while everyone else is pushing for 28nm and lower. Hell Intel stated they are shooting for 14nm at CES if i remember right! They will be one to keep an eye on in the long run. Imho
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I read in andtech that S4 is modified architecture with a performance between A9 and A15.still sounds awesome
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That video was impressive. But I don't like lg phones....
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z50king said:
That video was impressive. But I don't like lg phones....
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same here bro.i never trust LG
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I read in andtech that S4 is modified architecture with a performance between A9 and A15.still sounds awesome
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yeah your right to an extent but its NOT "between" them its inline with A15 if not better...the write up at anandtech.com about the new S4's benchmarking is really well done. As are their other write ups concerning the chip.
...Qualcomm, unlike most ARM chip makers, does not license the architecture for its application processors directly from ARM Holdings. Instead, it designs its own cores in-house and simply licenses the ARM instruction set. At the most basic level, Qualcomm’s Krait core is more advanced than Cortex-A9, the current standard from ARM, and it may even best the next-generation Cortex-A15 core....
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http://www.extremetech.com/computin...ragon-s4-has-the-competition-on-the-defensive
Why Asphalt 7 and Need For Speed Most Wanted's graphics are minimal? no blur no reflection....nothing...why? I'm reading the comments on market and averibody says that the game grate graphics but on my tegra 2 phone (optimus 2x) nothing special....these games are not optimized for tegra 2 powered devices or what?
As much as I hate to say this about our phone, the Optimus 2X among the dual cores holds one of the weakest graphics processors.
Sure, when it first came out it was a beast of a phone both in terms of CPU and GPU. However, once other brands caught up in the battle, it was quite clear that Tegra 2 was the least proficient in graphics.
Funny how you'd expect a company like Nvidia that specialises in GPU units to make the best GPUs in any area, especially smartphones. However, even Tegra 3, while still powerful in its own right, is still vastly overshadowed by the GPUs on the other quad core devices.
You probably see "Tegra optimised" because of Nvidia's marketing attempts to compensate for their weak processors. It's becoming increasingly common knowledge that in smartphones, Nvidia have been useless in upholding their reputation built from computer GPUs.
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Why Asphalt 7 and Need For Speed Most Wanted's graphics are minimal? no blur no reflection....nothing...why? I'm reading the comments on market and averibody says that the game grate graphics but on my tegra 2 phone (optimus 2x) nothing special....these games are not optimized for tegra 2 powered devices or what?
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NEON instruction set missing. Simple as that.
The optimus 2x has a good gpu
new cm10 nightly Nenamark 2 = 44 fps with new gpu Driver no oc and old and the prime has 47fps is not bad
and other games like death Trigger runs on tegra 3 setings fluid
and the games are not full suport the tegra gpu well
Nootubo said:
The optimus 2x has a good gpu
new cm10 nightly Nenamark 2 = 44 fps with new gpu Driver no oc and old and the prime has 47fps is not bad
and other games like death Trigger runs on tegra 3 setings fluid
and the games are not full suport the tegra gpu well
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yes that is weird why dead trigger and shadowgun can run at high details? and those other games not?
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NEON instruction set missing. Simple as that.
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Oh god what an utter utter facepalm...
NEON has NOTHING to do with graphics. Lack of NEON is why our phone can't play high-profile 1080p not the reason of bad graphics.
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Nootubo said:
The optimus 2x has a good gpu
new cm10 nightly Nenamark 2 = 44 fps with new gpu Driver no oc and old and the prime has 47fps is not bad
and other games like death Trigger runs on tegra 3 setings fluid
and the games are not full suport the tegra gpu well
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what new gpu drivers are you using? do you installed chainfire?
The thing is that games are often optimized for PowerVR sgx (as ported from Iphone) and adreno and mali.
Tegra2 has minimal part is whole graphic cards so why dev has to waste time for such ****ty gpu?
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Oh god what an utter utter facepalm...
NEON has NOTHING to do with graphics. Lack of NEON is why our phone can't play high-profile 1080p not the reason of bad graphics.
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Well... well... not really.
What an utter overreaction Truth is that NEON handles AV decoding encoding and linking it to a frames. So yes, in fact it has an impact.
Overreaction cause mostly it is because in settings T2/P990 is recognized as low-end device.
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Well... well... not really.
What an utter overreaction Truth is that NEON handles AV decoding encoding and linking it to a frames. So yes, in fact it has an impact.
Overreaction cause mostly it is because in settings T2/P990 is recognized as low-end device.
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Please, explain to me how something that decodes audio and video files helps in games?
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Nvidia creates one of the best lp gpu,even mali in s2 no compition for o2x gpu, but the real fact is the t2 is kicked by its own creator, to priortised t3 or next tegra version ,lg under repute its previou gen phone due to thr lame developer and nvidia support.
In return other phones+new phone roll out and here we are whinning and criticizing our gpu:thumbdown:
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is there a way to improve the graphics in asphalt7 n nfs most wanted??? has anyone tried chainfire3d??
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ullekh99 said:
is there a way to improve the graphics in asphalt7 n nfs most wanted??? has anyone tried chainfire3d??
rom-cm10
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I tried but it doesn't let me to install it.....in cmw i get an error and if i install the drivers normally the phone wont boot up....so make a backup first
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Nvidia creates one of the best lp gpu,even mali in s2 no compition for o2x gpu, but the real fact is the t2 is kicked by its own creator, to priortised t3 or next tegra version ,lg under repute its previou gen phone due to thr lame developer and nvidia support.
In return other phones+new phone roll out and here we are whinning and criticizing our gpu:thumbdown:
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No, GS2 GPU is faster. The Tegra GPUs are actually a pain in the ass to code for if nVidia doesn't offer support. Devs have to split graphics processing onto 8 or 12 cores. The situation is quite similar with PS3 CPU, where devs also have to split graphics processing onto 7 different cores.
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Gameloft doesn't make this game available on tegra 2 i mean their's no proper game files specifically for tegra 2 only unlike in adreno, mali and other gpu beside tegra they provide separate files for those gpu's so if you want to play great games on your o2x please first search on google for tegra 2 sd files of the game you want like bard's tale there is a specific file for our gpu and as expected its size is incredibly big 3gb
Our gpu is powerful if nvidia let the developers play with their codes i think users not only praise the developer but they praise for nvidia also for this creation in my own opinion
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Gameloft doesn't make this game available on tegra 2 i mean their's no proper game files specifically for tegra 2 only unlike in adreno, mali and other gpu beside tegra they provide separate files for those gpu's so if you want to play great games on your o2x please first search on google for tegra 2 sd files of the game you want like bard's tale there is a specific file for our gpu and as expected its size is incredibly big 3gb
Our gpu is powerful if nvidia let the developers play with their codes i think users not only praise the developer but they praise for nvidia also for this creation in my own opinion
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I agree with you, with good optimization great results can be achieved on Tegra GPUs. Its like on the PS3. When devs are money hungry they make crappy ports but when a dev invests time and money awesome games can be made (for example, Uncharted and The Last of Us)
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I"m confused by Electronic Arts.
I have an old single-core Motorola Defy + and on it that other racing game Fast5 from Gameloft runs superfluid with real-time reflections.
Now why in the hell does EA opt to choose for minimal graphics on my and other phones.
Imho it"S better to have an adjustible slider to have settings from low to max graphics on the new need for Speed on Android.
The same with Riptide by Vektor Unit.
Let people choose for themselfs dammit.
hey guys!
Did you tried out "Dead Trigger" from the Tegrazone website?
Just instal it (free!), go to options and put graphic quality to max and BE AMAZED!
why from tegrazone website.. u can download it from play store for free...
btw sorry for offtopic but does tegrazone app work for u'll...it used to work for me wen i bought my phone... but has not been working since almost a yr..says no network?? had forgotten about it but now remembered coz of mention of tegrazone website
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hey guys!
Did you tried out "Dead Trigger" from the Tegrazone website?
Just instal it (free!), go to options and put graphic quality to max and BE AMAZED!
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yes! that is why I am angry about this phone.....dead trigger and shadowgun have quality settings....and the o2x can handle it...so the developers of EA or GLU or Gameloft why they dont make games look excelent on our phone?
Hi, Moto X will arrive here in Brazil at august 3 and i'm very excited for this phone which i'm sure will be my next, in this moment I have the Razr i <3
So, how is the gaming perfomance in this Phone? someone already tried Asphalt 8 and see if it runs at High graphics?
I just saw everyone talking about Active notifications, touchless controls and many other things but no one talks about gaming performance, so i'm curious
If someone could show in video how is the gaming performance it would be great
I'm sorry for my bad english =)
Well if you are looking for graphics performance it scored a 11286 score on 3dmark benchmark which is pretty dang good. It plays rr3 super smooth and no lag really at all on any thing else I've thrown at it
Contrary to most peoples belief the phone has some pretty beastly capabilities judging from the use I have tested.
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Couple the adreno 320 gpu with only 720p resolution and you get AWESOME gaming performance! NOVA 3 runs better on this thing than it did on my HTC One and my GS4 Active. NFS Most Wanted also runs flawlessly. I'll download Asphalt 8 and report back, but I am confident that it too will run without a hiccup.
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Well if you are looking for graphics performance it scored a 11286 score on 3dmark benchmark which is pretty dang good. It plays rr3 super smooth and no lag really at all on any thing else I've thrown at it
Contrary to most peoples belief the phone has some pretty beastly capabilities judging from the use I have tested.
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exiting to get mine *.*
_MetalHead_ said:
Couple the adreno 320 gpu with only 720p resolution and you get AWESOME gaming performance! NOVA 3 runs better on this thing than it did on my HTC One and my GS4 Active. NFS Most Wanted also runs flawlessly. I'll download Asphalt 8 and report back, but I am confident that it too will run without a hiccup.
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Great!! I just wanted to know if Asphalt 8 runs at the highest graphics because asphalt 8 is locked the medium and high graphics in some phones, on my razr i for example it runs only in low graphics, and is locked the medium and high
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exiting to get mine *.*
Great!! I just wanted to know if Asphalt 8 runs at the highest graphics because asphalt 8 is locked the medium and high graphics in some phones, on my razr i for example it runs only in low graphics, and is locked the medium and high
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Just downloaded it. It defaults to medium but you can set it to high. I just did 2 races on high and it ran smooth as butter with zero noticeable frame rate drops.
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Just downloaded it. It defaults to medium but you can set it to high. I just did 2 races on high and it ran smooth as butter with zero noticeable frame rate drops.
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Greatt! This phone is powerful! Cant wait to buy mine *.* I heard that Moto Maker will be available here in Brazil too *.*
Let's just say that my phone managed to render a 1,000,000+ poly CAD model and animate it at 60FPS without hiccups while my friend's laptop with a dedicated GPU choked.
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Let's just say that my phone managed to render a 1,000,000+ poly CAD model and animate it at 60FPS without hiccups while my friend's laptop with a dedicated GPU choked.
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What's your friends computer? A Dell laptop with intel graphics?
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What's your friends computer? A Dell laptop with intel graphics?
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An HP Envy.
Well just in specs, it has the same GPU as the HTC One and Sammy S4 yet only has to push around less than half the pixels. This phone is butter. Glad to see at least one company realizing that after a certain point GPU > CPU
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Let's just say that my phone managed to render a 1,000,000+ poly CAD model and animate it at 60FPS without hiccups while my friend's laptop with a dedicated GPU choked.
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tw1tch175 said:
Well just in specs, it has the same GPU as the HTC One and Sammy S4 yet only has to push around less than half the pixels. This phone is butter. Glad to see at least one company realizing that after a certain point GPU > CPU
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Great! Definitely it will be my next phone! i saw many videos on youtube of Moto X beating S4 and HTC One in performance, opening games is much faster than s4 and ONE
I had an hp slate book x2 and it played games better than any android tablet or phone I've had but returned it due to lack of root. How's the gaming on the new infinity?
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aznmode said:
I had an hp slate book x2 and it played games better than any android tablet or phone I've had but returned it due to lack of root. How's the gaming on the new infinity?
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NFS most wanted plays flawless, but it did that also on the tf700.
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NFS most wanted plays flawless, but it did that also on the tf700.
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Thanks. Will be getting mine Tuesday so I'll be able to test more games on it.
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Got mjne today. Played Dead Trigger 2 on ultra high graphics and the frame rate drops. Im pretty shocked. Going to try somw gameloft games. I know mc4 was smooth on hp slatebook x2 with the same processor.
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So I tried modern combat 4 and its not smooth either.
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It was smooth as hell for me with both games. Sooooo much better than the TF701T
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xRevilatioNx said:
It was smooth as hell for me with both games. Sooooo much better than the TF701T
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Hang on, do you mean those two games were smooth for you on TF701T, so much better than TF700T?
Sorry for the typo. The games are very smooth on my shiny new TF701T
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Sorry for the typo. The games are very smooth on my shiny new TF701T
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Your opinion of very smooth seems different than mine (ours). Why don't you post some screenshots with FPS Meter running in MC4?
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Your opinion of very smooth seems different than mine (ours). Why don't you post some screenshots with FPS Meter running in MC4?
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I'd like to see this as well.
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I don't have root..
You guys are also jumping ship before they 4.3 rollout (that started today) that we all know vastly improves 3D gaming.. I have Zero problems. My TF700T was a lag machine on my games. Absolutely no problems whatsoever, on my new device..
Faster, Smoother, More Responsive
Android 4.3 builds on the performance improvements already included in Jelly Bean — vsync timing, triple buffering, reduced touch latency, CPU input boost, and hardware-accelerated 2D rendering — and adds new optimizations that make Android even faster.
For a graphics performance boost, the hardware-accelerated 2D renderer now optimizes the stream of drawing commands, transforming it into a more efficient GPU format by rearranging and merging draw operations. For multithreaded processing, the renderer can also now use multithreading across multiple CPU cores to perform certain tasks.
Android 4.3 also improves rendering for shapes and text. Shapes such as circles and rounded rectangles are now rendered at higher quality in a more efficient manner. Optimizations for text include increased performance when using multiple fonts or complex glyph sets (CJK), higher rendering quality when scaling text, and faster rendering of drop shadows.
Improved window buffer allocation results in a faster image buffer allocation for your apps, reducing the time taken to start rendering when you create a window.
For highest-performance graphics, Android 4.3 introduces support for OpenGL ES 3.0 and makes it accessible to apps through both framework and native APIs. On supported devices, the hardware accelerated 2D rendering engine takes advantage of OpenGL ES 3.0 to optimize texture management and increase gradient rendering fidelity.
OpenGL ES 3.0 for High-Performance Graphics
Android 4.3 introduces platform support for Khronos OpenGL ES 3.0, providing games and other apps with highest-performance 2D and 3D graphics capabilities on supported devices. You can take advantage of OpenGL ES 3.0 and related EGL extensions using either framework APIs or native API bindings through the Android Native Development Kit (NDK).
Key new functionality provided in OpenGL ES 3.0 includes acceleration of advanced visual effects, high quality ETC2/EAC texture compression as a standard feature, a new version of the GLSL ES shading language with integer and 32-bit floating point support, advanced texture rendering, and standardized texture size and render-buffer formats.
You can use the OpenGL ES 3.0 APIs to create highly complex, highly efficient graphics that run across a range of compatible Android devices, and you can support a single, standard texture-compression format across those devices.
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I don't have root..
You guys are also jumping ship before they 4.3 rollout (that started today) that we all know vastly improves 3D gaming.. I have Zero problems. My TF700T was a lag machine on my games. Absolutely no problems whatsoever, on my new device..
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I dont have root either and games aren't as smooth as it is on my HP slatebook (just got it today). But I hope the 4.3 does change performance on this. Looking forward to it.
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I don't have root..
You guys are also jumping ship before they 4.3 rollout (that started today) that we all know vastly improves 3D gaming.. I have Zero problems. My TF700T was a lag machine on my games. Absolutely no problems whatsoever, on my new device..
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I would like to see 4.3 on the TF701, but you're being overly optimistic about the improvements. A few new OpenGL features that might not even be supported by the Tegra4 aren't going to make all the 3d games suddenly double in framerate. So ya, Google added support for Open GL ES 3.0 in Android 4.3, but the Tegra4 doesn't support OpenGL ES 3.0 fully. Quoting anandtech: The big disappointment for many was that NVIDIA maintained the non-unified architecture of Tegra 3, and won't fully support OpenGL ES 3.0 with the T4's GPU. NVIDIA claims the architecture is better suited for the type of content that will be available on devices during the Tegra 4's reign.
I bet that games will have the exact same framerates on Android 4.3 as they do on 4.2.2, but I hope I'm wrong.
Can someone that isn't blindly optimistic about the reality of the TF701 do a comparison of FPS before & after the Android 4.3 update? Not like I care that much anymore since I'm shipping mine back today. Poor TF701. Or even just an FPS reading from any game on any version of Android? But maybe post it here: http://forum.xda-developers.com/showpost.php?p=47390158&postcount=9
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I would like to see 4.3 on the TF701, but you're being overly optimistic about the improvements. A few new OpenGL features that might not even be supported by the Tegra4 aren't going to make all the 3d games suddenly double in Framerate. So ya, Google added support for Open GL ES 3.0 in Android 4.3, but the Tegra4 doesn't support OpenGL ES 3.0 fully. Quoting anandtech: The big disappointment for many was that NVIDIA maintained the non-unified architecture of Tegra 3, and won't fully support OpenGL ES 3.0 with the T4's GPU. NVIDIA claims the architecture is better suited for the type of content that will be available on devices during the Tegra 4's reign.
I bet that games will have the exact same framerates on Android 4.3 as they do on 4.2.2, but I hope I'm wrong.
Can someone that isn't blindly optimistic about the reality of the TF701 do a comparison of FPS before & after the Android 4.3 update? Not like I care that much anymore since I'm shipping mine back today. Poor TF701. Or even just an FPS reading from any game on any version of Android? But maybe post it here: http://forum.xda-developers.com/showpost.php?p=47390158&postcount=9
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One can't be blindly optimistic,when there's no need to be. My device is impeccable, especially when being compared to the albatross I owned last year, in the TF700T ,
Lastly, You extracted that quote from an article written in January, before they did an "architecture deep dive" a month later. What they've found is quite compelling and pretty much disproves their previous thought process. .
We finally have a competitive GPU architecture from NVIDIA. It’s hardly industry leading in terms of specs, but there’s a good amount of the 80mm^2 die dedicated towards pixel and vertex shading hardware. There's also a new L2 texture cache that helps improve overall bandwidth efficiency.
With Tegra 4, complaints about memory bandwidth can finally be thrown out the window. The Tegra 4 SoC features two 32-bit LPDDR3 memory interfaces, bringing it up to par with the competition.
For users today, the lack of OpenGL ES 3.0 support likely doesn’t matter - but it’ll matter more in a year or two when game developers start using OpenGL ES 3.0. NVIDIA is fully capable of building an OpenGL ES 3.0 enabled GPU, and I suspect the resistance here boils down to wanting to win performance comparisons today without making die size any larger than it needs to be.
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Thanks for this thread! Gaming is he main thing I'll be using my TF701 for, if I get one. My N7 FHD and Note 3 are great for most things I do, but I do all of my Android gaming on my TF700 since it has a HDMI port. I'm still debating in selling my TF700 and getting the TF701, or waiting to see if the N10 will not made by Asus. Even if the N10 is made my Asus, I very seriously doubt it will have a HDMI port. So if gaming of good on the TF701, then I'll be buying it! I'll be following this that closely to see Rudy everyone's thoughts are. Thanks!
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Gaming is definitely better on this than the tf700. I hated gaming on the tf700 and the only way I got it better was to change resolution to 720p. There is however some frame rate drop but nothing close to the tf700. I'll post a video soon. I tried recording earlier but the Damn thing rebooted on me. I'm playing around with 3 tablets right now (701, note 3, HP slatebook) and so far the Hp slatebook x2 is my favorite device for gaming. It's the smoothest out of the 3. I posted a video of it here if you're interested.
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Hi Guy,
I have a toshiba excite pro, some games is laggy because they use the screen native resolution to solve problem, I have created a script to change résolution to 1920x1080. All is better smooth.
For example, I have the resolution probleme with nfs most wanted. It was not laggy, but a little like slow motion
You can change resolution with the console
4.2.2 and lower
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wm size 1080x1920
didlight said:
Hi Guy,
I have a toshiba excite pro, some games is laggy because they use the screen native resolution to solve problem, I have created a script to change résolution to 1920x1080. All is better smooth.
For example, I have the resolution probleme with nfs most wanted. It was not laggy, but a little like slow motion
You can change resolution with the console
4.2.2 and lower
am display-size 1080x1920
4.3+
wm size 1080x1920
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That's great to hear. I did the same with my tf700 and it made a huge difference. Unfortunately I've already returned my tf701 so I can't try it and didn't want to void warranty, but this would be a great alternative for others.
What I did though in some games that are tegra enhanced like dead trigger 2 is I just changed to high instead of ultra high and it too made a difference and it became smoother than the note 2014
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snake2332 said:
Your opinion of very smooth seems different than mine (ours). Why don't you post some screenshots with FPS Meter running in MC4?
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I just got mine yesterday and tried playing dead trigger 2 and it was a horrible experience. I wish Asus would have gone with the snapdragon 800 instead of the tetra 4.
Another thing I've noticed is lag while typing.
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