hello all
i have a standard xvid clip (640x272) that can only play @ 20.8fps on core player(stock rom) (with itje 10.1 ROM i get 21.3fps)
the same clip plays @ 23.8fps on the touch HD and 24.3 diamond 2(stock ROMs)
i tried so many other clips as benchmarks and its evident that the x1 is constantly %18-%20 slower than other HTC devices with identical specs (cpu and resolution)
can anyone explain this phenomena? i sure hope that there is light at the end of the tunnel
What do you have installed on it? Perhaps some background processes, like panelmanager?
come to think of it, its not just the video that is constantly slower on the x1. its the whole ROM in general (navigating between various wm programs, switching between applications....etc) is clearly much slower on the xperia even though it has the same CPU speeds (just look at an video review of the tp2 or td2 in youtube and you can clearly see how they are much faster)
even the fastest x1 cooked roms are noticeably slower than the HD,td2 and tp2 stock roms
hope SE can do something about that and i hope and i hope our chefs can eventually close the performance gap.
Angelusz said:
What do you have installed on it? Perhaps some background processes, like panelmanager?
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its actully a fresh flash (itje 10.1) with only core player installed now not even emails or contacts are added yet
do you get better performance on reasonably good quality XVID dvdrips (close to 640x272 resolutions)
What coreplayer version did you use to test? I can try installing the same and see what I get. Also, what settings?
Same problem here, videos always cease in the first seconds.
By the way, which coreplayer version is the best to use for xperia?
im not facing a bug like F-Styla as it does not suffer from the stuter i just have constant low performance compared to HD and td2
i just benchmarked the video on an ancient HTC macian and i got 39fps!!!!!!! (on qvga resolution though)
using full version of coreplayer 1.3.2
THE GRIZZ said:
im not facing a bug like F-Styla as it does not suffer from the stuter i just have constant low performance compared to HD and td2
i just benchmarked the video on an ancient HTC macian and i got 39fps!!!!!!! (on qvga resolution though)
using full version of coreplayer 1.3.2
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Since I discovered this great app (http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=467590) never had a problem viewing any video. Great resolution, small size of files, no lags.
However, I heard somewhere that coreplayer can't use hw acceleration on X1. Do not know if that's true also for HTC, but that could explain the performance differences
[email protected] said:
Since I discovered this great app (http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=467590) never had a problem viewing any video.
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reencoding videos is not really a solution if you ask me
-my understanding that full qtv support is coming with ver2.0
my problem is that why the heck is the x1 so much slower (in everything)than identically specd devices like the HD. is there an easy way to varify that we are runiing at the FULL 528mhz and overclock in case we are not
THE GRIZZ said:
reencoding videos is not really a solution if you ask me
-my understanding that full qtv support is coming with ver2.0
my problem is that why the heck is the x1 so much slower (in everything)than identically specd devices like the HD. is there an easy way to varify that we are runiing at the FULL 528mhz and overclock in case we are not
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Somewhere here in this forum I read that actually the X1 is NOT running at full speed. I know, I have not been really precise... but with a little bit of search you can find out the thread I am talking about.
I think all HTC devices except the original XDA have video sync/playback issues. There are tons of threads on this. Get yourself a PMP to enjoy quality videos.
X1 runs at 400 mhz currently, although the processor is in fact 528 mhz. The downgrade is made in order to save power and lower heat levels. You can check the current speed by installing an app like HomeScreen++.
I would like to see what the X1 can do with the full 528 mhz, but I haven't seen any solution for it so far.
I enjoy perfect quality after I downloaded the app from the front page.
orelsi said:
X1 runs at 400 mhz currently, although the processor is in fact 528 mhz. They downgrade is made in order to save power and lower heat levels. You can check the current speed by installing an app like HomeScreen++.
I would like to see what the X1 can do with the full 528 mhz, but I haven't seen any solution for it so far.
I enjoy perfect quality after I downloaded the app from the front page.
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i got a program that can change clockspeed .. up to 528 , with nice settings like , lower it down @ backlight off , lower it down @ power button
it can still play mp3 at only 62mhz badass phone lol
i had it cooked in my rom Touch X 6.1.2b
programs called nueCPL - ClockSpee v1.2 (Build117)
www.nuerom.com
http://www.nuerom.com/BlogEngine/page/nueDynamicClock.aspx
THE GRIZZ said:
reencoding videos is not really a solution if you ask me
-my understanding that full qtv support is coming with ver2.0
my problem is that why the heck is the x1 so much slower (in everything)than identically specd devices like the HD. is there an easy way to varify that we are runiing at the FULL 528mhz and overclock in case we are not
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I experienced the same slowness using Coreplayer, I am using v1.2.5.
After I put a non Touch-flo on the SEX1 I did not have a slow Coreplayer anymore, so I would suggest try a different ROM and see if the problem is still there.
I am using gtrabs wm6.5 rom and I have no problem playing video on Coreplayer without reencoding the video.
souljaboy said:
programs called nueCPL - ClockSpee v1.2 (Build117)
www.nuerom.com
http://www.nuerom.com/BlogEngine/page/nueDynamicClock.aspx
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-just installed it
its says im already @528 (not 400mhz). i changed everything to 528mhz on all settings but that did not help in fact for some dumb reason in getting even less performance now @19.18 fps
-installed home screen ++ but im not sure where the settings is to show current speed (will look more after i reflash)
-turned off touchflo3d also didnt help
-this 400MHZ thing seems like a major problem with the X1, are you sure its true? i would imagine a lot of noise and complaints if it were true ?
-will go and flash into a beare bones rom now to see if it helps
souljaboy said:
i got a program that can change clockspeed .. up to 528 , with nice settings like , lower it down @ backlight off , lower it down @ power button
it can still play mp3 at only 62mhz badass phone lol
i had it cooked in my rom Touch X 6.1.2b
programs called nueCPL - ClockSpee v1.2 (Build117)
www.nuerom.com
http://www.nuerom.com/BlogEngine/page/nueDynamicClock.aspx
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Thanks! That works to make it feel quite a bit snappier (I know its not scientific, but haven't benchmarked anything)
I am also having a video problem, rather than make new thread I post it here.
Well, not a single HD video plays on my Xperia now, Coreplayer tries to but its so choppy and insane which I now know doesn't use hardware acceleration.
Now after converting the video with Touch HD video converter software, WMP says "The source filter for this file could not be loaded."
I also found this: http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=365381
But still nothing at all.
Any solutions? Must I change ROMs to play HD videos?
weird I don't have any problem with video performance, I'm using coreplayer and they just flies!!!!!!!
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weird I don't have any problem with video performance, I'm using coreplayer and they just flies!!!!!!!
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thats weird. are sure your video files are good resolution
can you make sure of the resolution of the file. also did you use the benchmarking tool in core player
i changed the rom but im getting the same results
THE GRIZZ said:
-just installed it
its says im already @528 (not 400mhz). i changed everything to 528mhz on all settings but that did not help in fact for some dumb reason in getting even less performance now @19.18 fps
-installed home screen ++ but im not sure where the settings is to show current speed (will look more after i reflash)
-this 400MHZ thing seems like a major problem with the X1, are you sure its true? i would imagine a lot of noise and complaints if it were true ?
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- I think its under ...options - indicators.... IIRC.
- It is major and was talked about quite a lot when the X1 was launched.
DeeChan said:
I am also having a video problem, rather than make new thread I post it here.
Well, not a single HD video plays on my Xperia now, Coreplayer tries to but its so choppy and insane which I now know doesn't use hardware acceleration.
Now after converting the video with Touch HD video converter software, WMP says "The source filter for this file could not be loaded."
I also found this: http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=365381
But still nothing at all.
Any solutions? Must I change ROMs to play HD videos?
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I had a similar issue when I messed up my video drivers with something I installed. The only solution was a hard reset.
When accessing the browser version of youtube on cm7, I can play 320p and below videos fine, but if I get a 480p video it stutters. When I try to press the button to change the resolution it pops up and disappears almost instantly. Is there a way to set it to 320p as default or a way to get this button to behave? I know dsp is probably a ways off so I'd like to get this working. Thanks.
In case anyone is interested, theres a setting in the youtube account options, but it only lets you set it to the lowest quality.
Go to www.youtube.com/xl . it's a much better version of the site for tablets. You can go from SD to HD with one click. Hope this will work for you while we all wait for hardware acceleration, so we can use the proper youtube app.
Thanks, Why was it possible to have hardware accel in Froyo but not GB? Is it that different?
chadamir said:
Thanks, Why was it possible to have hardware accel in Froyo but not GB? Is it that different?
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If I remember right, it's a driver issue. Like alot of things for the nook, there were never proper drivers put out for froyo and gingerbread. most of them had to be backported I think. Froyo does have hardware acceleration, but I think it's a hacked up driver. That's no knock to the people who made it, I have a great amount of respect for the devs work.
Flash 10.2 is available now and the big buzz about it is/should be GPU acceleration of Flash content. Works great on my laptop, reports say that gpu acceleration works with honeycomb devices.
On my Desire HD, it doesn't seem to improve anything. I've read that GPU acceleration has been disabled on Froyo/Gingerbread until further notice.
Does anybody know some exact info on that?
hi, i just changed my galaxy s2 for this lg p990 because i needed some money. i love this phone but current software lacks of full hardware control. for instance on sgs 2 tegrak apps and kernels provide a full customization in frequency and voltages (cpu and gpu). if you can find a lucky phone like mine was you can undervolt gpu from 1,1 to 0,75 volt at full frequency with a great battery life improvement. i love small but powerful apps like
-voodoo control
-tegrak apps
-chainfire 3d
and i paid for all of them! so i will buy also a nice app to control gpu and avp of my tegra 2 lg p990! i don t care about need of reboot or aomething, i will just watch my full hp movies on hdmi without lag or frame skip!
Hello!
What you want is available - to a certain extent.
To UV you need a OC/UV kernel to do this and you could use either one of kernels like i.e. spica(Horse Power kernel for stock rom), dr4go(fps kernel for stock), SetiroN(ironknL for CM7) or vodonka (KANG kernel for CM7).
Then use i.e. Pimp my CPU to customise under-volt over-clock...whatever...
But if it is possible to undervolt GPU independently in Tegra 2 chips - I don't know. You could ask any of the kernel devs above!?!?
Chainfire 3D is available - if you bought it just install it - it gives some performance but MSAA customisation isn't supported by the Tegra 2 - if you are looking for this...
Voodoo sound control is available and still under development - right know their are only some basic features - but it works and brings some dynamic range improvement. IMHO it is a noticeable improvement.
BTW: Watching video with full HD up to 1080p is possible out of the box - no need to OC or to OC GPU for that.
hi, thank you for your answer! i flashed cm7 and now i don't cry anymore for my ex sgs2, but a friend of mine gave me an hd file for test and it was 1080p with low bit rate ( 2,5gb for 2 hour lenght) but impossible to watch properly on my hd tv. and i was very disappointed when the encoding speed was almost the same switching beetween hw and sw decode ( on mx player). i don t think tegra 2 sucks as it seems. i manage clock speeds on my mobile with pimpmycpu but it is not very reliable and still don t have any control on gpu and avp clock. so what i think that really lacks on p990 sw
environment is a gpu/avp control. i home cm9 will bring any improvement on this side
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hi, thank you for your answer! i flashed cm7 and now i don't cry anymore for my ex sgs2, but a friend of mine gave me an hd file for test and it was 1080p with low bit rate ( 2,5gb for 2 hour lenght) but impossible to watch properly on my hd tv. and i was very disappointed when the encoding speed was almost the same switching beetween hw and sw decode ( on mx player). i don t think tegra 2 sucks as it seems. i manage clock speeds on my mobile with pimpmycpu but it is not very reliable and still don t have any control on gpu and avp clock. so what i think that really lacks on p990 sw
environment is a gpu/avp control. i home cm9 will bring any improvement on this side
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The last thing i heard was that CM7 and HMDI 1080p and 720p playback didn't work 100%. on stock, that should work..
yes, it played well on stock gingerbread....not like sgs2 but something lile. dual boot on lg dual (italian name of lg 2x) could be a good idea also
Hello!
The Question is if the used codec that was used for encoding the video is supported by the hardware.
BTW: I use moboplayer, but my TV only supports 720p with this phone (don't know why - while it supports 1080p with my laptop) and I used 720p sources from OnlineTVRecorder.com for testing - this works without glitches...
I've had the galaxy note for a while now, tried many roms and so on. But I just cannot get the speed out of my note like my sister's stock GB S II. Her phone is SO fast and snappy it's mindblowing. My note feels super slugish compared to her phone and she hasn't even done any mods! What can I do to speed my phone up? I've tried touchwiz and non touchwiz roms they just all seem to lag. I have never tried any gingerbread roms though. Is there a CM7 rom for the note?
If you refer sluggish as in the screen transitions, that is probably because the GPU has to push out a whole lot more pixels (640000 to be precise), both phones use the same GPU, this also applies to desktop computers, laptops and whatever uses a graphics card. for example you can play lets say Diablo 3 at FULL settings in 720P, now if you change the resolution to 1080P and keep FULL settings you will see the game stuttering and frame skipping and what not.
My advise would be try changing the screen density, but I doubt that'll help since the Mali GPU still has to push out more pixels than on the GS2
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If you refer sluggish as in the screen transitions, that is probably because the GPU has to push out a whole lot more pixels (640000 to be precise), both phones use the same GPU, this also applies to desktop computers, laptops and whatever uses a graphics card. for example you can play lets say Diablo 3 at FULL settings in 720P, now if you change the resolution to 1080P and keep FULL settings you will see the game stuttering and frame skipping and what not.
My advise would be try changing the screen density, but I doubt that'll help since the Mali GPU still has to push out more pixels than on the GS2
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Yea I figured it was a GPU issue. Anyway to overclock the GPU?
Also, anyway to switch to 24 bit or 16bit colors?