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Hi,
I am currently on the Darky v7.0 and I wanted to flash to 7.0.2
Do I just copy the rom in the sd folder and flash using rom manager just as i did before?
or do i have to switch back to stock 2.1 (rogers) and then flash 7.0.2?
This will be my second time flashing.
Please advice.
Thanks
Just install it over 7.0 if you got the non wipe version.
peachpuff said:
Just install it over 7.0 if you got the non wipe version.
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This is the thread and the link to it. it does say "No wipe".
[ROM] Official Darky Port v7.0.2 No Wipe]
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=880859&page=53
so does it mean its ok to install over 7.0?
does no wipe mean i dont have to wipe/remove the rom before flashing a new one?
Thanks
I too am curious why we are told to revert back to 100% stock before every time we change a rom. Why can't we just use Clockwork Recovery to wipe data/factory reset just like we do with every other Android phone?
Phateless said:
I too am curious why we are told to revert back to 100% stock before every time we change a rom. Why can't we just use Clockwork Recovery to wipe data/factory reset just like we do with every other Android phone?
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samsung, in their infinite wisdom, decided rfs was the best filestructure to use for this phone. some roms change that to ext4 with voodoo, some roms rely on ULF to convert to ext4 and some dont convert anything.
ODIN is the user-friendly way to wipe everything back to stock...completely. if you remember to revert any lagfix (voodoo, ULF) then load your rom, it will work fine.
HOWEVER, there are so many people that dont remember to do that, its easier to flash back to stock rather than troubleshoot what could have possibly happened during their flash
personally, i have found that it takes just as long to revert the lagfix as it does to use ODIN....so rather than hoping that my new flash isnt corrupted in some way by my old flash, i flash back to stock. takes me 5 minutes total. as long as you keep a copy of the CWM update.zip on your sdcard, there is not even a reason to boot back into stock and root/setup/install rom manager, etc.
Pirateghost said:
samsung, in their infinite wisdom, decided rfs was the best filestructure to use for this phone. some roms change that to ext4 with voodoo, some roms rely on ULF to convert to ext4 and some dont convert anything.
ODIN is the user-friendly way to wipe everything back to stock...completely. if you remember to revert any lagfix (voodoo, ULF) then load your rom, it will work fine.
HOWEVER, there are so many people that dont remember to do that, its easier to flash back to stock rather than troubleshoot what could have possibly happened during their flash
personally, i have found that it takes just as long to revert the lagfix as it does to use ODIN....so rather than hoping that my new flash isnt corrupted in some way by my old flash, i flash back to stock. takes me 5 minutes total. as long as you keep a copy of the CWM update.zip on your sdcard, there is not even a reason to boot back into stock and root/setup/install rom manager, etc.
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Thank you, that's the answer I was looking for. I already noticed that CWM can be flashed through an update.zip, so if I'm currently running the stock rom I don't have to ODIN and wipe data, do I? I can just flash CWM, nandroid, then go ahead and flash whatever I want?
Then NEXT TIME I flash something else I'll have to ODIN first.
Or does the user data already present in the stock rom make enough of a difference that I should ODIN anyway?
Phone is my gf's so I would really like to have a nandroid of her setup exactly as it is now so we can go back if she doesn't like Cognition, or whatever rom we decide to flash.
Phateless said:
Thank you, that's the answer I was looking for. I already noticed that CWM can be flashed through an update.zip, so if I'm currently running the stock rom I don't have to ODIN and wipe data, do I? I can just flash CWM, nandroid, then go ahead and flash whatever I want?
Then NEXT TIME I flash something else I'll have to ODIN first.
Or does the user data already present in the stock rom make enough of a difference that I should ODIN anyway?
Phone is my gf's so I would really like to have a nandroid of her setup exactly as it is now so we can go back if she doesn't like Cognition, or whatever rom we decide to flash.
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you are correct in assuming that if you are running stock currently, you do not have to odin first
if you remember to revert any lagfix that may have been applied (depends on rom) you wont have to ODIN
make a nandroid of her current setup.
now this is where it gets tricky. i just played around with doing this last night actually:
if you go from 2.1 to 2.2 or higher, you cannot just flash back to 2.1 nandroid restore. the nandroid doesnt backup or restore your modem and kernel
going backwards to 2.1, you will want to flash a 2.1 kernel, and modem prior to restoring your nandroid backup and vice versa if you make a nandroid of 2.2 and want to go back to it from 2.1
if you keep clockwork flashable versions of such needed kernels and modems as well as a nandroid of the original setup and the cwm update.zip file on your sdcard, you will never need odin...unless there is a major malfunction. this can all be done in CWM, but as i said, the noob-friendly, and surefire way to get a fresh install is ODIN. i dont think any other company has something like this available to flash back to stock, so the methods used on the roms in the galaxy s phones are slightly different than the roms for htc or motorola devices. to me, i think this is a major win for us, in that most things are easily recoverable using a windows tool
Pirateghost said:
you are correct in assuming that if you are running stock currently, you do not have to odin first
if you remember to revert any lagfix that may have been applied (depends on rom) you wont have to ODIN
make a nandroid of her current setup.
now this is where it gets tricky. i just played around with doing this last night actually:
if you go from 2.1 to 2.2 or higher, you cannot just flash back to 2.1 nandroid restore. the nandroid doesnt backup or restore your modem and kernel
going backwards to 2.1, you will want to flash a 2.1 kernel, and modem prior to restoring your nandroid backup and vice versa if you make a nandroid of 2.2 and want to go back to it from 2.1
if you keep clockwork flashable versions of such needed kernels and modems as well as a nandroid of the original setup and the cwm update.zip file on your sdcard, you will never need odin...unless there is a major malfunction. this can all be done in CWM, but as i said, the noob-friendly, and surefire way to get a fresh install is ODIN. i dont think any other company has something like this available to flash back to stock, so the methods used on the roms in the galaxy s phones are slightly different than the roms for htc or motorola devices. to me, i think this is a major win for us, in that most things are easily recoverable using a windows tool
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That makes sense, thanks! Over in HTC-land we call them radios instead of modems, and kernel/spl/radio all have to be compatible. Most are compatible with each other so there is seldom a need to flash around.
So what I gather from your post is that if she starts on stock 2.1 and I flash cwm, then flash Cognition (2.2 rom) I will most likely need to update the modem to match? Or is that only the case with stock roms?
Phateless said:
That makes sense, thanks! Over in HTC-land we call them radios instead of modems, and kernel/spl/radio all have to be compatible. Most are compatible with each other so there is seldom a need to flash around.
So what I gather from your post is that if she starts on stock 2.1 and I flash cwm, then flash Cognition (2.2 rom) I will most likely need to update the modem to match? Or is that only the case with stock roms?
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most all the custom roms you will find will flash a kernel and modem that match and work properly with that rom
it really only applies to nandroid backups going from 2.1 to 2.2 and vice versa
Pirateghost said:
most all the custom roms you will find will flash a kernel and modem that match and work properly with that rom
it really only applies to nandroid backups going from 2.1 to 2.2 and vice versa
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So you're saying when you flash the rom it will flash the correct kernel and modem as part of update/install script?
So basically I just need to install CWM, flash the rom, and not worry about the rest?
Phateless said:
So you're saying when you flash the rom it will flash the correct kernel and modem as part of update/install script?
So basically I just need to install CWM, flash the rom, and not worry about the rest?
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yep
you dont need to worry about the rest until it comes time to flash to something else
there are a few options when that time comes:
use ODIN to restore to stock, then flash the next rom of your choosing
revert lagfix (if applied from the current rom you are running), then flash next rom of your choosing
if going back to a 2.1 NANDROID, not custom rom, then you will either need to odin, then flash.
or
flash 2.1 compatible kernel+modem and then restore your nandroid
Pirateghost said:
yep
you dont need to worry about the rest until it comes time to flash to something else
there are a few options when that time comes:
use ODIN to restore to stock, then flash the next rom of your choosing
revert lagfix (if applied from the current rom you are running), then flash next rom of your choosing
if going back to a 2.1 NANDROID, not custom rom, then you will either need to odin, then flash.
or
flash 2.1 compatible kernel+modem and then restore your nandroid
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Got it. That all makes sense except for the kernel. Shouldn't that be included in the nandroid? I know the modem probably resides on a separate partition...
Phateless said:
Got it. That all makes sense except for the kernel. Shouldn't that be included in the nandroid? I know the modem probably resides on a separate partition...
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the nandroid doesnt backup the kernel OR the modem as far as i know. either that or it doesnt flash them on the restore...
Pirateghost said:
the nandroid doesnt backup the kernel OR the modem as far as i know. either that or it doesnt flash them on the restore...
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At least with HTC the kernel is part of the Rom and IS included in nandroids.
I am having 5 Roms stored thru CWM, and I used to Nandroid restore one every time based in a certain rom property. This is normally an easy process.
The problem is when I am on CM7 or ICS and I want to revert back to restore gingerbread based roms then I have to use Odin for istalling the rom all over again!
whenever I see a blue recovery screen I know there will be a problem.
Is there an easy way for restoring rom without invloving the use of a laptop (Odin)? Sorry if this has been been discussed before, but I have checked thoroughly without luck.
Galaxy S-I9000
Happy new year.
The AOSP ROMs use a different file system to stock ROMs so you can't just CWM a stock ROM on top. You have to install a stock gingerbread rom with odin/heimdall with repartition then you can restore the CWM backup. (can't remember if you have to install a kernel after installing stock)
Thanks but I was hoping for an easier way. Later on I will backup a base ROM then will try to revert to it from AOSP ROMs and will restore the desired rom from there. I have just read from a similar post that is possible.
hi everyone
i start flash custom roms couple days ago, trying out "temasek's UNOFFICIAL BUILD RC1-94" everything work great, just some of the .apk was not working, so i decide to go back to stock roms, i thought it be simple process restore it backup, but adter it restore LG logo keep boot and restart. so i start reading found this thread i try it out, load it install this zip file,
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=1021554
now i can't return to recovery menu, and it keep booting and restart, please what can i do now did i brick the phone, i'm so lost right now, please help thanks
after many try and ton of reading, i thought my is total brick, trying out smartflash method also get error when flashing, thank to this post from "75markus " i was able to restore back to 2.2 froyo
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showpost.php?p=25120132&postcount=6
Next time don't forget to flash Back2Ext3 before restoring stock backup
Durio said:
Next time don't forget to flash Back2Ext3 before restoring stock backup
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Yes - that happened to me also. My first "bad" experience with flashing
from what i read CM7 running ext4, stock runing ext3 right?
so now i'm back with stock running froyo, i still have my backup files on with sd card. Do i root and install rom manager then install Back2Ext3, and final running restore? will this restore back to my original state since i backup using cwm to backup.
thank guy
yes, cm7 uses ext4 system mount. i just use a zip file which i flash from recovery if i need to get back to ext3.
here it is btw if you are on stock froyo and want to restore stock gingerbread (if i understood you right) you dont need to use back to ext3 again, just restore your back up.
phihung07 said:
hi everyone
i start flash custom roms couple days ago, trying out "temasek's UNOFFICIAL BUILD RC1-94" everything work great, just some of the .apk was not working, so i decide to go back to stock roms, i thought it be simple process restore it backup, but adter it restore LG logo keep boot and restart. so i start reading found this thread i try it out, load it install this zip file,
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=1021554
now i can't return to recovery menu, and it keep booting and restart, please what can i do now did i brick the phone, i'm so lost right now, please help thanks
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Restore stock backup from CM needs to flash an ext4-backto-ext3 zip with cwm, what a pity you overwrite cwm with stock recovery.
Now you should try to rescue your phone with SmartFlash, finally consider nvflash method.
xilw3r said:
yes, cm7 uses ext4 system mount. i just use a zip file which i flash from recovery if i need to get back to ext3.
here it is btw if you are on stock froyo and want to restore stock gingerbread (if i understood you right) you dont need to use back to ext3 again, just restore your back up.
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well i notice the froyo firmware is way faster than the GB i have, no lagg at all battery is really good, is there any GB stock rom run smooth without bloatware.... (like international version)
phihung07 said:
well i notice the froyo firmware is way faster than the GB i have, no lagg at all battery is really good, is there any GB stock rom run smooth without bloatware.... (like international version)
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If you mind, try Django Manouche, Custom but stock based ROM http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=1410662 . I tried many CM and MIUI roms but always ended restoring Django back
Hi there,
I have a rooted N7000 running original Android v 2.3.6
I want to flash (test) it with a custom ROM.
I made a full backup of my current system (via CWM backup)
Now, when I flash a (new Android 4) custom ROM, will it then be possible to restore the old v2.3.6 image that I made, using CWM?
Other question: Do I need to take care of what type Kernal version I have
I have 2.6.35.7-N7000XXKKA-CL726566
Baseband-version is N7000XXkk5
Thanks for your reply.
Rene
jbin said:
Hi there,
I have a rooted N7000 running original Android v 2.3.6
I want to flash (test) it with a custom ROM.
I made a full backup of my current system (via CWM backup)
Now, when I flash a (new Android 4) custom ROM, will it then be possible to restore the old v2.3.6 image that I made, using CWM?
Other question: Do I need to take care of what type Kernal version I have
I have 2.6.35.7-N7000XXKKA-CL726566
Baseband-version is N7000XXkk5
Thanks for your reply.
Rene
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nothing to worry about, that is what backup is intended to do.
the only thing you have to watch that you're on safe kernel like philZ when wiping data in stock ics or jb (read sticky threads)
example: if you are on philz kernel and runing ics or jb, when you restore your backup of gb, you restore your gb kernel, system, data etc, just like backing home
djoni_gitara said:
nothing to worry about, that is what backup is intended to do.
the only thing you have to watch that you're on safe kernel like philZ when wiping data in stock ics or jb (read sticky threads)
example: if you are on philz kernel and runing ics or jb, when you restore your backup of gb, you restore your gb kernel, system, data etc, just like backing home
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OK, Thanks for the reply. So if I understand correctly:
1. I make a backup of my current ROM (Image via CWM) and put it in a safe place.
2. I can flash any custom ROM, and test/play with them.
3. Afterwards I can put back my old ROM again via CWM restore.
4. Reboot, and I'm back in the old state.
Is this right?
Can I flash ROMs by using CWM also (using zip files) or do I need to flash, using Odin?
I actually do not understand your remark about philZ, can you explain a bit more about what that means.
Thanks for your help so far
Rene
jbin said:
OK, Thanks for the reply. So if I understand correctly:
1. I make a backup of my current ROM (Image via CWM) and put it in a safe place.
2. I can flash any custom ROM, and test/play with them.
3. Afterwards I can put back my old ROM again via CWM restore.
4. Reboot, and I'm back in the old state.
Is this right?
Can I flash ROMs by using CWM also (using zip files) or do I need to flash, using Odin?
I actually do not understand your remark about philZ, can you explain a bit more about what that means.
Thanks for your help so far
Rene
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Since you are going to try custom rom, you need not to worry about emmc brickbug, since they will be using a safe kernel..but double check before flashing...so, if you are on Stock ICS kernel, you should NOT wipe/factory reset..if you do, you will brick your phone..you can just go through couple of sticky threads to know abt emmc brickbug, if you are not aware of that..whatever the steps you have mentioned above are correct..but when you flash a custom rom, follow the instructions mentioned in the Custom rom OP...
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Since you are going to try custom rom, you need not to worry about emmc brickbug, since they will be using a safe kernel..but double check before flashing...so, if you are on Stock ICS kernel, you should NOT wipe/factory reset..if you do, you will brick your phone..you can just go through couple of sticky threads to know abt emmc brickbug, if you are not aware of that..whatever the steps you have mentioned above are correct..but when you flash a custom rom, follow the instructions mentioned in the Custom rom OP...
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jbin said:
OK, Thanks for the reply. So if I understand correctly:
1. I make a backup of my current ROM (Image via CWM) and put it in a safe place.
2. I can flash any custom ROM, and test/play with them.
3. Afterwards I can put back my old ROM again via CWM restore.
4. Reboot, and I'm back in the old state.
Is this right?
Can I flash ROMs by using CWM also (using zip files) or do I need to flash, using Odin?
I actually do not understand your remark about philZ, can you explain a bit more about what that means.
Thanks for your help so far
Rene
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1. Yes, copy your /clockworkmod to your pc (just for double safety) dont cut it or move it, you need it on your internal sd card always, if you wanted to restore it again... and dont rename it (you will end up with message md5 missmatch!)
2. of course
3. Every new custom kernel like Philz kernel ( for ICS TW and JB TW) http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=1901191
or hydracore (not working on TW JB, but works on all other) http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=1749863
have built in CWM 6.x.x.x , You can recognize them by the gray background in CWM recovery. (there is no need to install independet CWM or something else, like you do on your stock GB kernel)
They are built in almost every custom rom, and these kernel are safe for wipe.
3.1 . So if you flashed new custom TW ics or jb, and after playing with them, you want back to your nandroid backup, just go boot in recovery (now you see a grey background CWM6) do all the wipes (in my experience the best way is: (advanced > wipe dalvik cache, go back > wipe cache, then wipe/data factory reset, then go into mounts and storage > format cache,system,data and preload , dont format emmc and sd card. go back into backup/restore > restore from (internal sd card or some other place depends on where you place your backup)
4. of course, when youo see a message backup complete, reboot it
Hlo Everyone,
I Am a Newbie To Custom Android Roms on Galaxy S Advance .I am on Stock JB with Cocore Kernel And Twrp . I Want To ask if i make a nandroid backup of stock android and try to install other custom rom ,can i revert back to stock jb via backup in case problem arises ...
I had tried this on a different phone but at that time it said md5 sum mismatch .
So Simply I am asking u can i revert back to stock jb via twrp recovery ...
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SultanRTS said:
Hlo Everyone,
I Am a Newbie To Custom Android Roms on Galaxy S Advance .I am on Stock JB with Cocore Kernel And Twrp . I Want To ask if i make a nandroid backup of stock android and try to install other custom rom ,can i revert back to stock jb via backup in case problem arises ...
I had tried this on a different phone but at that time it said md5 sum mismatch .
So Simply I am asking u can i revert back to stock jb via twrp recovery ...
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That mismatch happen because of bad backup I think. You can if you are on other stock based or on CM10.1. For CM10.2 and CM11 ROMs you must repartiton preload partition to be able to do that. HOW.
SultanRTS said:
Hlo Everyone,
I Am a Newbie To Custom Android Roms on Galaxy S Advance .I am on Stock JB with Cocore Kernel And Twrp . I Want To ask if i make a nandroid backup of stock android and try to install other custom rom ,can i revert back to stock jb via backup in case problem arises ...
I had tried this on a different phone but at that time it said md5 sum mismatch .
So Simply I am asking u can i revert back to stock jb via twrp recovery ...
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It is possible.
that md5 sum mismatch you had on different phone was most probably related to corrupted backup file - not related with current ROM installed as long as backup is not cross recovery (CWM / TWRP).
I have lost one backup same way due to corrupted files.
To be sure that it will work you can try to restore backup just after it was created - if it will work, then it should work later on.
if you will be trying CM11 revert procedure is a bit more tricky (as /preload partition is used differently than in stock):
it might need odin flash of stock, install CoCore, restore backup
EDIT ... or faster way presented by shut_down ;]
th3cr0w said:
It is possible.
that md5 sum mismatch you had on different phone was most probably related to corrupted backup file - not related with current ROM installed as long as backup is not cross recovery (CWM / TWRP).
I have lost one backup same way due to corrupted files.
To be sure that it will work you can try to restore backup just after it was created - if it will work, then it should work later on.
if you will be trying CM11 revert procedure is a bit more tricky (as /preload partition is used differently than in stock):
it might need odin flash of stock, install CoCore, restore backup
EDIT ... or faster way presented by shut_down ;]
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I had tried this on galaxy fit ,but there also i got same problem and i had to use odin to get stock back ... i don't want to go over the same pls help me.my phone is hanging a lot and i cant stay on stock so pls help me
To be sure it is not corrupted backup file you can perform restore backup just after it was created.
If it is corrupted due to some reason it will not work from the beginning.
If it go smooth you are sure that you got correct backup - just store it some place safe (not on crappy SD that might go corrupt over time or sth ...)
At that point it is safe to assume it will work as system restore point from any custom ROM back to state of when it was made (official JB with cocore and all your apps / contacts / messages / etc already in place) - with exception of CM10.2 and CM11 ROMS (and those that are based on them) as explained already - those ROMs would need one extra step before reverting (but it is still possible, just not as straight forward as on other ROMs)