Hi friends,
had some queries regarding when to do the root+CWM and if it will conflict with new updates from samsung.
1. is it best to root as soon as i buy a fresh phone? or should i apply all the updates (if any) and then proceed for the root.
2. should i do a clean format before root. will it conflict with any install of apps. should i install apps after root?
3. what about future updates? will i be able to continue receiving new updates?
4. what is the specific files required to unroot and go back to stock? where can i find my stock zimage. any other files and apps required please inform. I'm using Indian version.
i went through http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=1424997
this dr.ketans stock roms list but im not very clear about it.
thanks a lot
anjath said:
Hi friends,
had some queries regarding when to do the root+CWM and if it will conflict with new updates from samsung.
1. is it best to root as soon as i buy a fresh phone? or should i apply all the updates (if any) and then proceed for the root.
2. should i do a clean format before root. will it conflict with any install of apps. should i install apps after root?
3. what about future updates? will i be able to continue receiving new updates?
4. what is the specific files required to unroot and go back to stock? where can i find my stock zimage. any other files and apps required please inform. I'm using Indian version.
i went through http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=1424997
this dr.ketans stock roms list but im not very clear about it.
thanks a lot
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1. Better to update to new firmware then to root (Update only to Rootable FW)
2. No need to clean format before root.
3. After rooting you wont receive any updates from Samsung.
4. Stock ROM and odlin, KL3 is the last update found in India and its rootable
3. so we'll have to unroot, update to new version and then try to root again?
After unroot u need to factory reset to get updates i guess.
anjath said:
Hi friends,
had some queries regarding when to do the root+CWM and if it will conflict with new updates from samsung.
1. is it best to root as soon as i buy a fresh phone? or should i apply all the updates (if any) and then proceed for the root.
2. should i do a clean format before root. will it conflict with any install of apps. should i install apps after root?
3. what about future updates? will i be able to continue receiving new updates?
4. what is the specific files required to unroot and go back to stock? where can i find my stock zimage. any other files and apps required please inform. I'm using Indian version.
i went through http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=1424997
this dr.ketans stock roms list but im not very clear about it.
thanks a lot
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1. I dont see any reason to w8, I have rooted in half n hr of my purchase. I wrote the post how to Root before my purchased (Available in India quite later). But it is your nice question regarding pre or post update, First you updates if any available so you may not need to Re-Root. Just keep in mind If your updates is KL7/KL8, then you have to Root it first.
2. It is always better to Root in clean condition(as soon update ROM), though there is no Rule.
3. No and Yes, No incase you want updates from Kies
Yes in case you can Flash any ROM with Odin
4. You are Indian then I can confirm few more thing, Your last update is KL1
purchased state you may have KK1, just update over OTA, now you will have KL1
Now Root. Dont worry regarding Stock Kernel, Just send Me PM whenever you may need Indian Kernel
To Root , use link in my signature.
dr.ketan said:
1. I dont see any reason to w8, I have rooted in half n hr of my purchase. I wrote the post how to Root before my purchased (Available in India quite later). But it is your nice question regarding pre or post update, First you updates if any available so you may not need to Re-Root. Just keep in mind If your updates is KL7/KL8, then you have to Root it first.
2. It is always better to Root in clean condition(as soon update ROM), though there is no Rule.
3. No and Yes, No incase you want updates from Kies
Yes in case you can Flash any ROM with Odin
4. You are Indian then I can confirm few more thing, Your last update is KL1
purchased state you may have KK1, just update over OTA, now you will have KL1
Now Root. Dont worry regarding Stock Kernel, Just send Me PM whenever you may need Indian Kernel
To Root , use link in my signature.
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thanks a lot for the clarification. I'll definitely message you when i need the Indian kernel.
for 3. while my phone is rooted i received KKA update from kies.
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Guys,
I flashed my Note with a HK Original Samsung ROM (N7000ZSKK1, obtained at the development section).
When I bought it in Shanghai, it had a modified version of the original firmware with lots of china apps that meddle with what I want to do, and since it had superuser on there I knew it was flashed. probably from a China issue version that doesn't have google apps
All seems fine after flashing the original HK version, except for one thing: I get software update notifications, and when I try to install them, I get an installation failure notification. I thought that if a phone had a correct ROM installed, it would be able to receive OTA updates? I was hoping to get Samsung's ICS update officially (rather than performing ROM flashes each time an update comes along...).
I used Mobile Odin to flash the firmware. Without checking (e.g. by installing titanium backup) I don't know if it is still rooted or not. Prior to flashing it the unit was actually not rooted (the chinese unrooted it after flashing the custom HK ROM I think), and it had the same issue wrt not being able to install OTA updates.
Any idea why I cannot install OTA updates?
Alternatively, what's the easiest solution to keep my phone up to date with samsung's latest and greatest?
ksporry said:
Guys,
I flashed my Note with a HK Original Samsung ROM (N7000ZSKK1, obtained at the development section).
When I bought it in Shanghai, it had a modified version of the original firmware with lots of china apps that meddle with what I want to do, and since it had superuser on there I knew it was flashed. probably from a China issue version that doesn't have google apps
All seems fine after flashing the original HK version, except for one thing: I get software update notifications, and when I try to install them, I get an installation failure notification. I thought that if a phone had a correct ROM installed, it would be able to receive OTA updates? I was hoping to get Samsung's ICS update officially (rather than performing ROM flashes each time an update comes along...).
I used Mobile Odin to flash the firmware. Without checking (e.g. by installing titanium backup) I don't know if it is still rooted or not. Prior to flashing it the unit was actually not rooted (the chinese unrooted it after flashing the custom HK ROM I think), and it had the same issue wrt not being able to install OTA updates.
Any idea why I cannot install OTA updates?
Alternatively, what's the easiest solution to keep my phone up to date with samsung's latest and greatest?
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Sometimes OTA updates get fail. Try with Samsung Kies.
Tried that, but it gives the message "Your device does not support software upgrading via Kies". It states for current firmware version: PDA:KK1 / PHONE:KJ6 / CSC: (TGY)
SHould I be installing a different firmware?
I wanted to update to the new release.. I have root and TWRP on my Note... I ovi cannot download the update on my phone.. What are the steps in getting the download and to update with a Note that is root and flashed recovery?
Sorry I did try to look for a thread before posting this... I guess Im asking can I just download it and update or not because im rooted and have TWRP??? Please help
You need to odin back to your stock current baseband to update, just follow this thread: http://forum.xda-developers.com/not...sy-steps-stock-odin-n910tuvu1anih-cf-t2903733
I am currently on ANJ7 and I have been ignoring the system update.
Is the update worth it? Does it bring any fixes or features (other than DTIgnite) that you would consider worthwhile?
true maybe ill just wait for lollipop
Supermighty said:
I am currently on ANJ7 and I have been ignoring the system update.
Is the update worth it? Does it bring any fixes or features (other than DTIgnite) that you would consider worthwhile?
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Only noticeable difference for me is when pressing the recent app hard key, it's a bit faster on NK4
Another firmware update, already?
If I update will I still be able to root?
when i got my note 4 i was on anj7 and i had rooted and everything before i realized i need to be on NK4 \ so i just odined the full NK4 file back to stock, including bootloader. and then rooted and twrp from there
Hi,
So i have a Moto G 2 XT-1068 with Android 5.0.2 and system version 22.21.28.titan_retaildsds.retaildsdsall.ex.03 reteu.
I rooted it and installed Xposed.
Since some days, my phone notify me that there is a new (official) update avalaible :
22.56.3.en.03
My first reflex was to post in the Xposed forum :
I have a Motorola Moto G 2nd edition (2014 XT-1068) with Android 5.0.2 and these xposed versions installed :
XposedInstaller_3.0_alpha4.apk
xposed-v75-sdk21-arm-1
This morning, my phone notify me that there is a newsoftware update available :
22.56.3.en.03
Can i update ?
Will Xposed still running or do i have anything to do before or after update ?
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then :
Yes i'm rooted (i didn't know i could install exposed without root ?!) and i ask the question to rooted users : what is the recommended behavior to have when we are rooted and there is an official update like this one ? Should i ignore it ? Should i wait ? Should i update (with one of your solutions) ?
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and this is the reply i had :
You'll have to ask how an OTA works for that in your device forum.
For Google Android (untouched by OEM) in Kitkat, OTA used to check each important file individually and if one was modified, OTA would fail. This did not check all existing files or added files such as root, so as long as you uninstalled Xposed properly (restoring the original app_process files etc) then an OTA would be fine.
Since Lollipop, OTA checks the /system partition as a single item so any modification in any file, or any additional file will make the OTA fail. In which case, the only way to update would be to flash a stock ROM.
You will need to find out in your device forum which of these applies to your device.
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So this is it, i make a post in this Moto G 2014 forum
Doing the OTA will most likely delete the XposedBridge.jar so you will have to flash it again.
Else the Xposed app will still be available but the Framework won't be installed.
If it doesn't update because the /system partition has been modified, you'll have to flash the whole rom to update.
Ok, so i can try without risk ?
And what about my root ?
nonobio said:
Ok, so i can try without risk ?
And what about my root ?
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Root will be gone too. You'll have to root it again by flashing SuperSu Zip though a custom recovery. (TWRP)
Restore the nandroid backup of the stock system you made in TWRP before you rooted.
You also need the stock recovery for the OTA to install.
You made a backup of your system before you rooted, right?
Hi
TheKill69 said:
Root will be gone too. You'll have to root it again by flashing SuperSu Zip though a custom recovery. (TWRP)
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Ok.
Seriously said:
Restore the nandroid backup of the stock system you made in TWRP before you rooted.
You also need the stock recovery for the OTA to install.
You made a backup of your system before you rooted, right?
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I'm note sure i made a backup before i rooted cause i'm note sure i knew i could install recovery without root but i checked my backup plan and my oldest backup is post root
So, what do you recommand when there is OTA like this ? Should i ignore them ?
It seems to be a hard process (flash stock recovery and root again and not sure if it will be possible anyway, is it ?) for maybe a little update ?
Maybe i should wait for the next big OTA like Android 6, then be sure that a new rooting process exist before update, and also be sure that Xposed will be supported ?
So if i ignore this 22.56.3.en.03, will i be notifyed for others newer OTA (like Android 6 for instance) ?
Thanks
nonobio said:
Hi
Ok.
I'm note sure i made a backup before i rooted cause i'm note sure i knew i could install recovery without root but i checked my backup plan and my oldest backup is post root
So, what do you recommand when there is OTA like this ? Should i ignore them ?
It seems to be a hard process (flash stock recovery and root again and not sure if it will be possible anyway, is it ?) for maybe a little update ?
Maybe i should wait for the next big OTA like Android 6, then be sure that a new rooting process exist before update, and also be sure that Xposed will be supported ?
So if i ignore this 22.56.3.en.03, will i be notifyed for others newer OTA (like Android 6 for instance) ?
Thanks
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You might have to flash the whole stock firmware back to get the stock recovery. Big waste of time.
Then rooting back means using CF Auto Root Commands again..
You have to update to it though if you want Android 6.0.
Since it won't be soon, you rather go for CM13 once it gets really stable.
Also by the way, Xposed is already supported on MM.
Thanks for these precisions.
So if i can resume : a custom rom is easier for enjoy Android updates than just Xposed.
Hi,
Can you confirm :
For someone searching advanced features like customize status bar, quick settings, shutdown menu, hardware buttons, etc : customs roms and "stock rom + exposed" are two solutions. BUT, for someone searching these same advanced features but also keep his device up to date : custom rom is really a better solution. Isn't?
I was happy when i discovered xposed as it seemed to be a easier process that flashing a custom rom, but i didn't know that i couldn't update easily..
So, what is the advantage to use xposed instead of custom rom?
Hi,
I am always thinking if i will update my stock rooted xposed rom, or if i will install a custom rom prerooted like Cyanogen mod (o have easier future updates).
i have some questions :
1- Is it possible to install xposed and modules on a custom rom like cyanogen mod ? I think yes but can you confirm ?
I know that CM come with inbuilt tweaks but i discover some great xposed module i would continue to use, even if i install CM.
2-If i keep my stock rooted xposed rom, and don't make this "little" Android 5 OTA update, will be i notified for "Android 6" ?
(i don't want to lose my time to reflash my rom, reroot mydevice, etc.., just for a little update, but i could do that for a more important update like Android 6...
3- We are agree that if i flash a custom rom like CM, it will resolve my "ota update" problem, cause there won't be "Motorola OTA" anymore, but there will be CM updates easy to make, isn't ? If yes, what could be the advantage to use stock rom rooted + xposed vs custom rom + xposed ?
Thanks
Hi everybody,
My phone is stock except root. I rooted it only for adaware and titanium backup.
I'm using these for years and there's no reason to change that
A long long time ago I had a Galaxy S3. But thnings have change a lot in the Samsung's World. I'm comming from Oneplus' world
With my other phones, I had to install a "update.zip" from TWRP.
I cannot found things like this for the Note 9.
So, how to upgrade ? (Dirty flash pie to pie)
With Odin ?
For small update I preafer to try first the dirty flash to save time. If the phone seems to slow, I'll made a clean install, but I really want to avoid the root process to install TWRP at every update.
Thanks
billy_boolean said:
Hi everybody,
My phone is stock except root. I rooted it only for adaware and titanium backup.
I'm using these for years and there's no reason to change that
A long long time ago I had a Galaxy S3. But thnings have change a lot in the Samsung's World. I'm comming from Oneplus' world
With my other phones, I had to install a "update.zip" from TWRP.
I cannot found things like this for the Note 9.
So, how to upgrade ? (Dirty flash pie to pie)
With Odin ?
For small update I preafer to try first the dirty flash to save time. If the phone seems to slow, I'll made a clean install, but I really want to avoid the root process at every update.
Thanks
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You can't avoid the root process, everytime you update you will need to root again! Also download SAMFIRM.EXE and use Odin3_v3.13.1_3B_PatcheD to flash the update files.. See 7th post here for the tools--> https://forum.xda-developers.com/galaxy-note-9/help/downgrade-to-android-oreo-t3890956
N1NJATH3ORY said:
You can't avoid the root process, everytime you update you will need to root again! Also download SAMFIRM.EXE and use Odin3_v3.13.1_3B_PatcheD to flash the update files.. See 7th post here for the tools--> https://forum.xda-developers.com/galaxy-note-9/help/downgrade-to-android-oreo-t3890956
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Thanks for your reply.
Yep, made a mistake, this is not the root, but installing TWRP...
regards
Hi guys, I have rooted S23 base 8/256gb EUX SM-S911B/DS firmware version S911BXXU1AWA6 and I'd like to update to S911BXXU1AWBD firmware version, a new update released a couple of days ago.
I was used to downloading full update package, push manually update through software updater, extract the boot.img, patch it through magisk and flash it through pc to have root after update (no data lost while updating).
Will this work for me on S23? I was using OnePlus 7T before. Or do I have to use Odin to update? (If yes, will I loose my data?)
I'm not quite familiar with Odin tool so I want to be sure. If flashing that patched extracted boot.img won't work I can try installing the TWRP released few days ago in order to root my device, I just want to know how to safely update without loosing my data or bricking the device.
I let my device root by Oneclickroot day after release cause there wasn't any verified safe way to root it myself but when there is now, I'd like to do it myself to safe some money.
THX for any advice
if you still have about 1 - 2 days time I can tell you how it goes with Odin. I also switched from Oneplus to Samsung and will also do it the first time, but I'm still waiting for the update from today in Germany.
pesa44 said:
Hi guys, I have rooted S23 base 8/256gb EUX SM-S911B/DS firmware version S911BXXU1AWA6 and I'd like to update to S911BXXU1AWBD firmware version, a new update released a couple of days ago.
I was used to downloading full update package, push manually update through software updater, extract the boot.img, patch it through magisk and flash it through pc to have root after update (no data lost while updating).
Will this work for me on S23? I was using OnePlus 7T before. Or do I have to use Odin to update? (If yes, will I loose my data?)
I'm not quite familiar with Odin tool so I want to be sure. If flashing that patched extracted boot.img won't work I can try installing the TWRP released few days ago in order to root my device, I just want to know how to safely update without loosing my data or bricking the device.
I let my device root by Oneclickroot day after release cause there wasn't any verified safe way to root it myself but when there is now, I'd like to do it myself to safe some money.
THX for any advice
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use smart switch to make a full back up from your device, then you can try to root it
pesa44 said:
Hi guys, I have rooted S23 base 8/256gb EUX SM-S911B/DS firmware version S911BXXU1AWA6 and I'd like to update to S911BXXU1AWBD firmware version, a new update released a couple of days ago.
I was used to downloading full update package, push manually update through software updater, extract the boot.img, patch it through magisk and flash it through pc to have root after update (no data lost while updating).
Will this work for me on S23? I was using OnePlus 7T before. Or do I have to use Odin to update? (If yes, will I loose my data?)
I'm not quite familiar with Odin tool so I want to be sure. If flashing that patched extracted boot.img won't work I can try installing the TWRP released few days ago in order to root my device, I just want to know how to safely update without loosing my data or bricking the device.
I let my device root by Oneclickroot day after release cause there wasn't any verified safe way to root it myself but when there is now, I'd like to do it myself to safe some money.
THX for any advice
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I have created a tutorial.
https://forum.xda-developers.com/t/...laxy-s23-s23-inkl-tools-newbie-guide.4562847/