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So there been a few threads on the Kaiser on O2. It seems to becoming in December:
http://shop.o2.co.uk/ComingSoon
me like the silveryness
weird though i ran the upgrade line and they are still convinced its avilable from today
as far as i know, the retentions department tend to release phones to upgrade customers earlier than the official release date, if they have the phone in stock already.
but right now, stocks not in yet...
i am due a upgrade and didnt think this was coming to 02. It meant to arrive today, can i just not except the phone and reorder the stellar? any ideas when i could get one?
Anybody else notice that O2 claim the Stellar includes an FM Radio?
I called them up today and they said it was being released tomorrow :S
So...
Is it the Stella or Stellar?
Also, why silver? The black Exec was the coolest of all the Universal's that I saw.
The o2 gossip mill is on the roll again telling every one something different, as i rang up again after being promised it would be out this afternoon to now be told its been put back to the 26th . Im sure these guys are getting thier info off of the same websites we are looking at and posting on .
One guy basically told me they look at gsmarena to find out what available on there own network. Im guessing that tehre has been one too many leaks and all data is on a release day basis only. If only they actually looked at the whole thing and realised that giving accurate info will help reatain customers hell it may even bring people in if they thought there provider was being even a bit open with them.
right off to shout at a user
I've had a lot of devices. Maybe thirty phones in the last 15 years. I think I know what I'm talking about.
Because I've been intimate with them. I've used them daily for years on end.
And then I go to the tech shop or the phone store or the market. And it just seems to me all these guys, the ones behind the counters talking about battery quality and never getting any returns, are they for real?
The do get to see a lot of phones. But do they USE them? Are they to be trusted?
No one is to be trusted. Trust your own judgement, don't even trust that fully.
Those shopkeepers are trained to come at you with a rehearsed sales pitch. They have 5% technical knowledge and 95% marketing knowledge. They typically only know enough about the devices in thier shop to be able to sell them.
But that's the nature of it. Buyers are responsible for doing thier own research before even setting foot inside a store, and should be aware that it is a salesman's job to sell you the stuff in thier shop.
It's easy for people like us to assume that everybody knows at least the technical basics of these devices. Most people do not. Not even people whose jobs are based upon these things. Assume that you know more about smartphones than anybody you come in contact with. 99% of the time, that assumption will prove correct. It's not thier fault. We are XDA geeks, they are not.
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huggs said:
No one is to be trusted. Trust your own judgement, don't even trust that fully.
Those shopkeepers are trained to come at you with a rehearsed sales pitch. They have 5% technical knowledge and 95% marketing knowledge. They typically only know enough about the devices in thier shop to be able to sell them.
But that's the nature of it. Buyers are responsible for doing thier own research before even setting foot inside a store, and should be aware that it is a salesman's job to sell you the stuff in thier shop.
It's easy for people like us to assume that everybody knows at least the technical basics of these devices. Most people do not. Not even people whose jobs are based upon these things. Assume that you know more about smartphones than anybody you come in contact with. 99% of the time, that assumption will prove correct. It's not thier fault. We are XDA geeks, they are not.
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No one is to be trusted ha I love that.
Bot those guys aren't ways just pitching you know. You can engage them in conversation... Frustrating at yes, enlightening at others.
In my experience its always the guys at the tech market, the small importers that know best.
Theres only one shop around me where they sell unlocked and refurbished phones, the rest where I live are carrier stores like sprint or verizon shops.
The guy at the independant shop knows a ton about the hardware side of things, more than I know even. He makes most of his living repairing usb ports and replacing cracked screens and such.
But even he knows very little about the software/firmware side of it all. I used to do some things to some of the used refurbished phones he sells, so he could make a little more money off of low-end devices, but I showed him some basics of how to do what I was doing so he could do it himself.
You're lucky to have even a few shops around you with knowledgable staff. I just have the internet and lots of friends who want me to 'pimp thier phones' for them lol.
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They're hired for their sales skills, not their technical knowledge. The same goes for most customer support personnel.
If they know anything at all, it's usually about iPhones.
huggs said:
No one is to be trusted. Trust your own judgement, don't even trust that fully.
Those shopkeepers are trained to come at you with a rehearsed sales pitch. They have 5% technical knowledge and 95% marketing knowledge. They typically only know enough about the devices in thier shop to be able to sell them.
But that's the nature of it. Buyers are responsible for doing thier own research before even setting foot inside a store, and should be aware that it is a salesman's job to sell you the stuff in thier shop.
It's easy for people like us to assume that everybody knows at least the technical basics of these devices. Most people do not. Not even people whose jobs are based upon these things. Assume that you know more about smartphones than anybody you come in contact with. 99% of the time, that assumption will prove correct. It's not thier fault. We are XDA geeks, they are not.
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Whats funny is, once, i was asked to be a selesperson selling smartphones for a few weeks, based on the fact that i am an "xda geek" so with no sales knowledge whatsoever, there i was selling phones. and i wasnt so bad at it either. i just never knew what to answer when someone would ask me the difference between a galxay pocket neo, galaxy ace, or galaxy young. i still dont know.
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Whats funny is, once, i was asked to be a selesperson selling smartphones for a few weeks, based on the fact that i am an "xda geek" so with no sales knowledge whatsoever, there i was selling phones. and i wasnt so bad at it either. i just never knew what to answer when someone would ask me the difference between a galxay pocket neo, galaxy ace, or galaxy young. i still dont know.
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Kobro said:
Whats funny is, once, i was asked to be a selesperson selling smartphones for a few weeks, based on the fact that i am an "xda geek" so with no sales knowledge whatsoever, there i was selling phones. and i wasnt so bad at it either. i just never knew what to answer when someone would ask me the difference between a galxay pocket neo, galaxy ace, or galaxy young. i still dont know.
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Sales is only good initially and you will get paid. This will become boring tasks sooner or later.
I remember as I was moving away from the 3 network using my HTC M7, the 3 person from the other side kept trying to sell me the Samsung Galaxy S5 and I was telling him the actual specs of the device as he didnt seem to know !
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Case in point. Went yesterday to the market (the food markets in russia usually also have hardware stores in the vicinity) to get light bulbs for the office. Went to the lighting shop where they sell every kind of bulb and led strip imaginable. Quite handy.
Asked the guy about his experience using german made versus russian made bulbs. These are speciality bulbs for workshop lighting for artists.
He had nothing to say. Oh he knows about luminosity and color gamut sure. But he knows nothing about their exploitation. In his own words "i just sell the stuff".
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Case in point. Went yesterday to the market (the food markets in russia usually also have hardware stores in the vicinity) to get light bulbs for the office. Went to the lighting shop where they sell every kind of bulb and led strip imaginable. Quite handy.
Asked the guy about his experience using german made versus russian made bulbs. These are speciality bulbs for workshop lighting for artists.
He had nothing to say. Oh he knows about luminosity and color gamut sure. But he knows nothing about their exploitation. In his own words "i just sell the stuff".
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Just curious to know whether you buy a bulb there.
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Just curious to know whether you buy a bulb there.
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Fortunately i know my light bulbs. But i was still curious - in these "difficult" for russia times - what he would have to say on the matter.
The wub you see is a simple one. You may buy german made, imported light bulbs at a 20% markup to russian made ones. Now on paper that sounds like the german ones are better.
However, the ones made in russia are made by license on german production lines by german trained workers.
For me the point is moot. I wont pay 20% more for imported low tech goods in general. But the fact that a guy who works exclusively in a light shop and knows the details of the lighting he sells doesnt have any experience using the bulbs is disheartening. To look at him, hes the consummate general store guy. But alas...
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Fortunately i know my light bulbs. But i was still curious - in these "difficult" for russia times - what he would have to say on the matter.
The wub you see is a simple one. You may buy german made, imported light bulbs at a 20% markup to russian made ones. Now on paper that sounds like the german ones are better.
However, the ones made in russia are made by license on german production lines by german trained workers.
For me the point is moot. I wont pay 20% more for imported low tech goods in general. But the fact that a guy who works exclusively in a light shop and knows the details of the lighting he sells doesnt have any experience using the bulbs is disheartening. To look at him, hes the consummate general store guy. But alas...
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I got your point. The guy just want to earn money and he doesn't have interest in what they are selling at all.
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I got your point. The guy just want to earn money and he doesn't have interest in what they are selling at all.
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I think my point is that shopkeepers vary. Some are knowledgeable and worth engaging in conversation in order to increase ones own knowledge. Some not.
Another blunder - i turn up at the shop to get my new nexus 9 and the guy keeps telling me he wont let me open the boxes to see the display quality until i buy. WTF is that???
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Another blunder - i turn up at the shop to get my new nexus 9 and the guy keeps telling me he wont let me open the boxes to see the display quality until i buy. WTF is that???
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Ask him a demo model if available. Also, he is correct on his point. What if you dont buy the device afterwards and no one will take an opened box(at least not me) as they will feel its 2nd hand or something. The shopkeeper doesnt know you and they do not trust anyone....
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Another blunder - i turn up at the shop to get my new nexus 9 and the guy keeps telling me he wont let me open the boxes to see the display quality until i buy. WTF is that???
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Don't they have any models on display? In any shop in the area?
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ShadowLea said:
Don't they have any models on display? In any shop in the area?
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Oh sure they do, the one on display is perfect! But the one i get in a box is not and they give me a choice:
1. take your money back and go away
2. leave your nexus here, we will send it to lg for expert evaluation and then either give you a new one (in which case if you still have a crap one, repeat) or you can also take your money and go away
Option two takes ~1 month. No choice at all when youre buying a device that came out a week ago is it?
I live in the US and the phone works - but it's a Snapdragon, not an Exynos ( so ... better?) and I'm not really sure what to think now that I see the hardware model of it.
The only noticeable differences I could find are that handwriting defaulted to Chinese and the Chinese calendar seems burned into the Samsung Calendar app.
Anything I should look out for? Should I pursue a return through Amazon?
Samsung pay?
Try hard reset then immediately sideloading Samsung Pay 2.7.03 (apk from apkmirror) and Framework 2.7.51 see if spay will work.
If you have problems with language options in general, you can factory reset and set up your languages defaults from the very beginning (on the very first page, you will have a language selector, possibly showing Korean as a default choice, type the Korean writing and choose your favorite localization; this happens on any model by Samsung). This is highly recommended if you do not trust the vendor.
As far as I can tell, the main limitation of N9500 is localization of hardware-secured features: if you plan to use the (awesome) Samsung Pay, apparently you can do so only in Hong Kong so far (with N9500). As I understand, Samsung uses/experiments a more advanced system in Hong Kong, which you will not be able to use elsewhere. I have a N9500 and I want to try to spoof the model number in build.prop to see if one can cheat the phone to have Samsung Pay work everywhere.
Snapdragon vs Exynos is a mixed bag, depending on your workload. Exynos performs slightly better, Snapdragon will offer a faster web experience. In my opinion, no noticeable difference at all. However if you:
-Have a 64GB model
-Have a write heavy workload (quite rare, for instance you do some video-editing on phone or backup GB of data TO the phone every day)
exynos will perform noticeably better in these tasks since Samsung uses different NAND on the two models. For reading workload, again the difference is not noticeable.
Also, my guess is that you got N9500 for a better price: these are usually imported models from Hong Kong or UAE, with no official support. Importers likely got a much better price than the local Samsung offer, or maybe they avoided some import taxes via shady practices. If you paid the same as the official listing in your country, you may want to ask for a replacement regardless of the hardware.
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Just to clear out, in the message before I meant that both the conditions (64GB AND write heavy) need to be satisfied to have an Exynos preference.
I haven't run into any actual problems yet (4 hours of use?) and I'm trying to avoid any modifications while I decide how to handle this... The whole thing seems shady, there's a promotional coupon stuck over the model number on the box. I feel like it was done intentionally for some reason.
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I haven't run into any actual problems yet (4 hours of use?) and I'm trying to avoid any modifications while I decide how to handle this... The whole thing seems shady, there's a promotional coupon stuck over the model number on the box. I feel like it was done intentionally for some reason.
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Well if you were sold a model different than the listing description and you are worried/not happy about it, get your money back and make sure you don't lose even a penny (teaching seller a lesson in the process since a lot of this purposeful shadiness seems to be happening even when seller knows).
Don't be upset. You might have gotten the only Snapdragon variant with an unlockable bootloader out the box. If you don't mind double checking this, go to developer options and see if there's an OEM unlocking toggle. Then download Crom and run it, it should unlock your bootloader.
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Don't be upset. You might have gotten the only Snapdragon variant with an unlockable bootloader out the box. If you don't mind double checking this, go to developer options and see if there's an OEM unlocking toggle. Then download Crom and run it, it should unlock your bootloader.
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Unfortunately, no such luck.
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Unfortunately, no such luck.
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Really? Damn, Samsung is seriously tightening things up, the HK and CN variants used to the only Snadragon models that came with an official bootloader unlock tool/method.
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Really? Damn, Samsung is really tightening things up, the HK and CN variants used to the only Samsung models that came with an official bootloader unlock tool/method.
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Didn't people have to wait exactly a week after activation for that option to show up or something like that?
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Didn't people have to wait exactly a week after activation for that option to show up or something like that?
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I don’t recall anything of the sort, but don’t hold that against me. My last Samsung device prior to the Note 8 was the S6 (which I despised). The S5 was Samsung’s last great and true user/developer/mod friendly device. Even though the design got a lot of hate, I quite liked it. It went to eight different countries with me, and never gave me grief even though I used it as an underwater camera countless times.
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I don’t recall anything of the sort, but don’t hold that against me. My last Samsung device prior to the Note 8 was the S6 (which I despised). The S5 was Samsung’s last great and true user/developer/mod friendly device. Even though the design got a lot of hate, I quite liked it. It went to eight different countries with me, and never gave me grief even though I used it as an underwater camera countless times.
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Yep double checked and there is a 1 week wait post activation for OEM UNLOCK option to appear.
https://forum.xda-developers.com/ga...-8-exynos-n950f-fd-oem-unlock-t3673140/page64
Not sure if applies to qualcomm variants too. Doesnt HK/CN by law require OEM UNLOCK? Read something along this line somewhere here.
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Yep double checked and there is a 1 week wait post activation for OEM UNLOCK option to appear.
https://forum.xda-developers.com/ga...-8-exynos-n950f-fd-oem-unlock-t3673140/page64
Not sure if applies to qualcomm variants too. Doesnt HK/CN by law require OEM UNLOCK? Read something along this line somewhere here.
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Hey! That’s amazing news for OP. I believe HK/CN does require that by law. I remember when the S7 was released there, it looked so sleek without the Samsung logos.
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Hey! That’s amazing news for OP. I believe HK/CN does require that by law. I remember when the S7 was released there, it looked so sleek without the Samsung logos.
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Yep it would be if it applies to Qualcomm variants and if it does it may only apply to HK/CN variants.
Maybe someone that has already had this model for 7+ days can confirm it for him.
The company I purchased it from refuses to advance-replace this with the phone I ordered and seems to expect me to pay to ship it back to them. This is probably going to turn into a dispute with Amazon, so I'm out another $900+ as I have to get into a new phone ASAP, and leave this one with zero wear.
I'm pretty convinced that I want the N950FD/S Aus, Europe & Lat edition of this phone despite living in the U.S. I don't want to suffer heavily locked bootloaders even for a Snapdragon and it seems there is more development for Exynos.
Please, though, tell me I'm wrong and that I should keep this phone that I dumped hours into configuring before catching on to the damn Chinese calendar embedded in the Samsung Calendar app :|
Damn yeah I would return it and get the exynos model you want oem unlock for sure ! I love my deep sea blue 256gb N950N its a work horse things were a pain at first but most the issues have been sorted out and its the best 1200$ i spent.
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The company I purchased it from refuses to advance-replace this with the phone I ordered and seems to expect me to pay to ship it back to them. This is probably going to turn into a dispute with Amazon, so I'm out another $900+ as I have to get into a new phone ASAP, and leave this one with zero wear.
I'm pretty convinced that I want the N950FD/S Aus, Europe & Lat edition of this phone despite living in the U.S. I don't want to suffer heavily locked bootloaders even for a Snapdragon and it seems there is more development for Exynos.
Please, though, tell me I'm wrong and that I should keep this phone that I dumped hours into configuring before catching on to the damn Chinese calendar embedded in the Samsung Calendar app :|
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If I were you, I would keep it. I’m 92% sure TWRP will pop-up for your device in the upcoming weeks. I don’t know if Samsung has released the kernel source yet, but once they do, I’ll be more than happy to compile it for you. I remember the same thing happened with the HK/CN variant of the S7. Holding out a week to see if OEM Unlocking shows up will be worth if it does.
Dont want to start a new thread so hopefully someone can help on here.
I ordered a N950fd but have received a N9500. It's currently sat in dubai waiting for a friend to bring back to UK.
Should i stick with it or get the N950FD instead? I would like to use Samsung pay but it's not a deal breaker as dont use it that much now anyway. Is there anything else i should be worried about?
thanks
So you ordered the Big Mac and got a Cheeseburger...
If you were at Macca's would you complain and want the right order? I know I would...
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So you ordered the Big Mac and got a Cheeseburger...
If you were at Macca's would you complain and want the right order? I know I would...
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Lol do you really think there's that much difference?
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Lol do you really think there's that much difference?
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Yes.....
Not only is there a difference, but I want what I ordered...
I am very annoyed. I bought a P20 Pro in Twilight from Car Phone Warehouse, in the UK; it arrived yesterday. On first boot it showed Huawei 1st and 2nd splash screens. All subsequent boots with a Three network SIM installed all show the 2nd boot screen as a pig-ugly Three logo. Shutdown is the same.
Its a bit like me buying a broadband service from British Telecom. And as soon as I connect up my router, they send a man round to repaint my front door with their logo! How can this be?
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But there's more; my browser home-page was set to Three; why-on-Earth? Who in their right mind would want Three as a Homepage? Doh! And they also scattered a few odds and sods of applications for me to remove.
I had a look around and it seems there is a 'cust' folder at / which has stuff to decide if its EE O2 Vodafone or Three. And it crams cr-a-p in you do not want or need.
Removing the Three SIM and trying an O2 SIM did not remove the Three banding. So that means if I wanted to sell it at some point next year I would l would not get as much as if it were free of the THREE grot..
Today, I took my phone back and got a refund. But I've got a complaint running with Three and I'll take it all the way to the Ombudsman. I'll also contact the THREE CEO. I also include contact details from Companies House for their CEO for anyone else who may wish to direct their displeasure at a phone being defiled in this way.
HUTCHISON 3G UK HOLDINGS LIMITED
https://beta.companieshouse.gov.uk/company/03918124/officers
CEO DYSON, David Richard
Correspondence address
Star House,, 20 Grenfell Road, Maidenhead, Berkshire, SL6 1EH
How do the Telecoms get away with this sh-i-t?
Did you buy it as being on the 3 network with a 3 SIM? It is annoying as CPW phones are normally unlocked but it is no different than if you had bought it direct from 3 - is it?
I bought mine in CPW and so such problems, had Vodafone and EE sums in it.
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Did you buy it as being on the 3 network with a 3 SIM? It is annoying as CPW phones are normally unlocked but it is no different than if you had bought it direct from 3 - is it?
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No I bought it as a SIM free (thus unlocked) phone.
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I bought mine in CPW and so such problems, had Vodafone and EE sums in it.
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What region code do you have? Mine was C782.
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I am very annoyed. I bought a P20 Pro in Twilight from Car Phone Warehouse, in the UK; it arrived yesterday. On first boot it showed Huawei 1st and 2nd splash screens. All subsequent boots with a Three network SIM installed all show the 2nd boot screen as a pig-ugly Three logo. Shutdown is the same.
Its a bit like me buying a broadband service from British Telecom. And as soon as I connect up my router, they send a man round to repaint my front door with their logo! How can this be?
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But there's more; my browser home-page was set to Three; why-on-Earth? Who in their right mind would want Three as a Homepage? Doh! And they also scattered a few odds and sods of applications for me to remove.
I had a look around and it seems there is a 'cust' folder at / which has stuff to decide if its EE O2 Vodafone or Three. And it crams cr-a-p in you do not want or need.
Removing the Three SIM and trying an O2 SIM did not remove the Three banding. So that means if I wanted to sell it at some point next year I would l would not get as much as if it were free of the THREE grot..
Today, I took my phone back and got a refund. But I've got a complaint running with Three and I'll take it all the way to the Ombudsman. I'll also contact the THREE CEO. I also include contact details from Companies House for their CEO for anyone else who may wish to direct their displeasure at a phone being defiled in this way.
HUTCHISON 3G UK HOLDINGS LIMITED
https://beta.companieshouse.gov.uk/company/03918124/officers
CEO DYSON, David Richard
Correspondence address
Star House,, 20 Grenfell Road, Maidenhead, Berkshire, SL6 1EH
How do the Telecoms get away with this sh-i-t?
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Is it actually sim locked to carrier or network branded to carrier. Hopefully just the latter as I've got 2 the first one once I inserted a O2 sim then restarted and downloaded a few O2 apps but no O2 splash screen. I've not tried inserting my Vodafone sim yet, really hoping its not simlocked to O2.
Sorry off topic but I made a question about shortcuts in the question and answers section. It's just a simple question, but i dont think anyone will bother to answer. Just wondering if someone could take a look and try and help me. Thread is just called shortcuts. Thanks lol.
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And as a bit extra. I do not use Facebonk; never have; never will. And reading the news today about Suckerburg, in a while no-one will. But if you look under Apps there are three Facebonk system level apps running in addition to the one in the app drawer that I immediately removed, when setting up the phone. They are busy collecting your data no doubt. They can be disabled. But I'm starting to dislike Huawei.
They're all at it, though. I have Sony TV. I don't use Netflix; prefer to torrent; but my TV is calling Home to Netflix all the while even when 'off'!
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Is it actually sim locked to carrier or network branded to carrier. Hopefully just the latter [snip]....
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Hopefully neither!!! if you bought it as SIM free no-one has any right to defile your property with their branding!
The Phone remains unbraded, even if it looks like that. Just do a factory reset and insert a SIM from another carrier and it's going to install it's apps and customizations as a so-called "Firmware Update". The carrier customizations are installed alongside the regular OTA Updates, so you even won't have to wait for updated customizations if a FW update becomes available This is part of the deal between Huawei and the different carriers to keep phones branding-free and still be able to push apps and other carrier-specific optimizations to the phones. Like it or hate it, it's up to you.
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What region code do you have? Mine was C782.
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C636, dual sim
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Hopefully neither!!! if you bought it as SIM free no-one has any right to defile your property with their branding!
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I know, might just stick with my S9.. We'll see
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C636, dual sim
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Well that's not a European phone but Asia/Pacific. It works .... mainly ... but in the countryside you may have problems as the long range 800 and 850 MHz bands are missing. Did you know when you bought it that it wasn't for this region?
And did you get problems signing in for Huawei ID?
Three phones are supplied unlocked, so it hasn't been simlocked.
Factory reset should remove branding.
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Three phones are supplied unlocked, so it hasn't been simlocked.
Factory reset should remove branding.
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Firstly it wasn't a Three phone! I bought it SIM free from CPW - an independent retailer of phones as far as I am aware.
And secondly, no, when it was factory reset it retained the Three branding. In the CPW shop the assistant put an O2 SIM in the phone and it still remained Three on the splash screen.
Aavion posted earlier
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it's going to install it's apps and customizations as a so-called "Firmware Update". The carrier customizations are installed alongside the regular OTA Updates, so you even won't have to wait for updated customizations if a FW update becomes available
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if I understand Aavion he's saying the branding will disappear after a while. But that only happens for the big four Telecoms. If you've a Virgin or GiffGaff or Tesco SIM in what happens then? I bet your life the phone will remain on the last brand recognized.
So we know the C782 is branded. We know that some bums are selling C636s seemingly VAT free from Hong-Kong and Ireland. And they remain unbranded but compromised; they do not have either 800 or 850 Mhz radio bands - the longer wavelengths that penetrate buildings and give a better reception, and very necessary in the UK.
Here is a short video of a C636 failing to work with Android Auto:-
https://drive.google.com/open?id=1OYpgqqlnOLXn3aPam8_4tIltvm82xeCl
Anyone with information about the branding on C432?
croques said:
Firstly it wasn't a Three phone! I bought it SIM free from CPW - an independent retailer of phones as far as I am aware.
And secondly, no, when it was factory reset it retained the Three branding. In the CPW shop the assistant put an O2 SIM in the phone and it still remained Three on the splash screen.
Aavion posted earlier
if I understand Aavion he's saying the branding will disappear after a while. But that only happens for the big four Telecoms. If you've a Virgin or GiffGaff or Tesco SIM in what happens then? I bet your life the phone will remain on the last brand recognized.
So we know the C782 is branded. We know that some bums are selling C636s seemingly VAT free from Hong-Kong and Ireland. And they remain unbranded but compromised; they do not have either 800 or 850 Mhz radio bands - the longer wavelengths that penetrate buildings and give a better reception, and very necessary in the UK.
Here is a short video of a C636 failing to work with Android Auto:-
https://drive.google.com/open?id=1OYpgqqlnOLXn3aPam8_4tIltvm82xeCl
Anyone with information about the branding on C432?
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My c782 is not carrier branded. It's sim locked to three ireland as I bought from then. After 140 euro of top ups, I can get sim unlock code for free.
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Mine was purchased through O2 directly online, it has no branding, and it currently using an EE sim card.
I would place the blame with either 3 or carphone not Huawei.
My C782, was bought online for an O2 contract but branded itself 3 when I put my other contract's 3 sim in.
The branding is in the Cust folder in root. It has folders for EE, 3, O2, Virgin & Vodafone, although the 3 folder is the only one with a custom bootanimation in it. I don't know if this is because the others were deleted when the branding took place or if 3 is the only network that changes the bootanimation, you'd have to unpack a C782 rom to see.
Unlocking the bootloader appeared to produce a full reset, including clearing internal memory (at least it did on mine), so one would imagine that relocking, unlocking (& maybe flashing new update) would return the phone to unbranded. Unfortunately I unlocked the bootloader before putting the 3 sim in, so I don't know
Still angry - draft to CEO of Three
David Richard Dyson
Chief Executive
Hutchison 3G UK Holdings Limited
Star House,
20 Grenfell Road,
Maidenhead,
Berkshire,
SL6 1EH
Dear Dave,
I wouldn’t normally have the temerity to address a Chief Executive by his given name; I see you post it around the Three website though, so I trust it will be acceptable to you; accept my apologies if not, Dave.
I write about my experience with Three over the past 9 months and recently. Forgive my long-windedness, my style and any poor erudition you may discern. I wish to appraise you of all circumstances fully. I would imagine any CEO with his/her finger on the pulse of their business would gladly accept raw customer feedback.
I will start, out of sequence, with recent happenings. This is going to be very raw – I’m very still angry. My prose may betray me.
On Tuesday of this week I ordered an Huawei P20 Pro phone from Car Phone Warehouse. I bought it SIM free and paid nigh on £800 for its bright-shiny newness. It was a wondrous thing to behold and I began to like it immediately. I placed my Three, monthly contract, SIM in and switched on. During set-up I was a little concerned to find an application open; one of yours which required me to accept something or other. I did not wish anything of Three on my phone but could find no way of going forward in the set-up process. So I shut the phone down and restarted. I don’t suppose you can imagine my consternation, my growing anger, my rage even, when I saw a Three logo on the second splash screen of boot-up.
When I was able to look closely at MY phone if was littered with your, (well, Three’s; I’m using ‘your’ and ‘you’ for the Three body corporate; I’ll leave you to interpret), dross…. My phone was littered with your dross. My browser had been redirected to always start on Three! There was a Wuntu app and I guess a Candy-Crush wannabe also littering my phone for which I had no need. You’ll no doubt say customers like this. No Dave, we don’t!
I do have to ask the questions. Why? When did I give Three permission to do this? Why can’t I remove all it? Apps and the home screen setting went easily enough. The splash screen was written in to place with system wide permissions and only apps signed with an Huawei key can do this, as you know. So that means you conspired with Huawei to do this to me! You had meetings about it; you thought it would be a - ‘good idea’. For whom? Who in their right mind would ever imagine, even in the wildest depths of stupor that phone users would like to have a crass, badly drawn figure 3, looking as if it has dragon scales, to adorn their phone. All displayed on the brightest eye-screwingly bright-whiteness. I really cannot fathom the stupidity; the arrogance, the paternalism you must exhibit to allow you to make these assumptions for me, Simply crass, Dave, on your part in 2018. And be in no doubt, ‘you’ and ‘your’ here refers to the personal you.
To be be clear, Dave, I bought a phone from an independent retailer, I purposely avoided Three stores and, excuse me, I don’t normally revert to the vernacular but it seems the only way to express my rage, I find your **** all over my phone! How can this be? By what right do you do this?
Imagine for moment you have changed broadband supplier at home. (I mean ‘you’ the person here. I’m sure you get it.) The new router arrives and you connect up, you enter the password and start web-surfing. A moment or two later a van pulls up outside and workmen start to repaint the front door of your house in the colours of the broadband provider’s logo. But more, the workmen enter your house, unasked, and reset your computer to always start at the broadband providers home page in the style of the now defunct AOL and Compuserve. But, still more, the workmen then proceeded to place scatter cushions with cartoon prints around the sitting room.
I imagine you would be outraged at the defiling of your home in this way.
I am outraged that Three has defiled my phone. I am so outraged that the phone was returned to CPW for a refund yesterday.
What can you take away from this, Dave? Well, I note you are one of those policy-on-paper guys. It’s so easy isn’t it. You have an 11 o’clock with a few other execs – they’re only a bit younger than me I see and likely over-the-hill too. You all throw something together that you think will impress the punters; you put it out there and go to lunch. But you’ve forgotten it all since haven’t you, Dave?
What is your policy now? What is it that your mission statement says?
Let me show you part of it:-
Our commitment to #makeitright is reflected through the way we do business.
We’re dedicated to running our business responsibly.
From respecting human rights and upholding ethical standards to using innovation to make things better for our people, customers and communities.
We recognise the positive impact that we can have when we make the most of our skills and resources to address some of the most pressing social and environmental issues. Especially when we engage our people, customers and supply partners to achieve more together.
How does any of that fit what you have done to my phone, bought entirely independently and now defiled.? A factory reset and a non Three SIM inserted did not remove your splash logo on start-up and shutdown. So straight our away the phone has it’s second-hand sale value reduced significantly. Your decision did that; responsible; ethical, you think? Respecting human rights; do you? My right is to have a phone as I bought it; all I buy from you is airtime and the carriage of my data packets, that’s all; nothing more. Do that and you might begin to be ethical and make things better for people, but at the moment you are just dishing out grief.
To #makeitright I suggest you ask one of your developers to write an app to remove your pernicious dreadful defiling dross. Get the app written; release it into the wild and apologise. Go on #makeitright!
And while I’m talking about #makeitright, why is it that the data rate for a text message or multimedia messages per megabyte costs tens or hundreds of times the cost of a IP data per megabyte. I’ve never understood why you do that; ethical, responsible? No, I don’t think so; and I bet you don’t too. Go on Dave, #makeitright!
To continue about making things better; who on earth designed your logo? Was it even designed professionally? There are no two ways about it, Dave, it is ugly and to me, meaningless. I hope you didn’t pay much for it! The blooming thing is a lighthouse consuming God-knows-what number of milli-Watts before the phone’s brightness control comes on stream. It blasts the screen with full power to every red, green and blue light emitting diode. (Yes, I had an OLED screen.) That’s really clever of Three isn’t- help deplete the battery for no good reason; (that’s irony there, Dave). Save battery! Invert the colours! Save lives! Invert the colours! (Wasn’t there a French hostage recently too afraid to turn her phone on, fearing the screen light would be spotted by her captor?) But you haven’t thought around this have you? You’ve been there long enough in Maidenhead though. Shame on you. Perhaps you’ve risen to peak incompetence – I don’t want to be be rude but people in Human Systems sometimes do get to a level and coast along in a fuddle. Is that you now, Dave?
So – where did we get to. We decided you are a policy-on-paper sort of guy, rather than actually putting policy into action. I don’t suppose anything I say will get you to change. People don’t generally. But optimism drives me to give it a go!
Guys on xda-developers.com tell me that only Three in the UK customize the Huawei splash screens with their logo. I wonder why the others were so constrained? What do they know that you don’t,, Dave? Perhaps they are more policy-in-practice people – do you think that might be it? Perhaps they listen to their customers, Dave. Could that be it?
Now I started my rambling whinge, for this is what it is, saying that all the dross you’ve been putting my way started 9 months ago. I was in New Zealand visiting my grandchildren when my phone rang in the middle of the night (New Zealand is 13 hours ahead, remember). Next morning a web-search revealed it was your lot; making a sales call I suppose. And it kept on happening.
My sister, back in the UK, was quite ill at the time and I needed to check who was calling because the call could be important. But Three kept ringing me nightly – 2 or 3 am. Each time I duly refused the call. Eventually I downloaded a call blocker. But that did little good because you’ve got many conjugations of number endings for your call-centre. So I might block 0333 338 1021 but next time the last two-digits would be something else. So all that repeated calling you do when calls are declined, ‘ethical’ is it, Dave, in your book?
Repeated calling in the middle of the night; ‘using innovation to make things better for our people, customers and communities’. Could Three not detect I was roaming, Dave? Did no-one there ever think that calls might be a nuisance in different time zones, Dave? (Dave, know this: I, and many other people, always find them intrusive, I’m a pro-active consumer, Dave. I tell you what I want. I don’t want you telling me; ever.) Whenever I sign-up anywhere I always refuse marketing. Its academic now, the GDPR will close your abuse-of-process down. From today your customers can set the dogs on you; and about time too.
But you are a policy-on-paper guy. You don’t have to worry about all this do you? The web page looks lovely; that’ll get the punters in! You’ve got to have come from a PR/Marketing background haven’t you? You are not like normal people. I met a woman once who was a rep for a pet food company. She really believed her products were superior to those of her company’s competitors. Is that it, Dave? Do you think Three is superior? Let reality bite, mate. Take a user-trip around Three as any customer might. You’ve never done that, have you?
I walked into a Three shop today and discovered that because I’m SIM only I don’t get access to your 800MHz band; ‘4G Voice’ I think he called it. Why, Dave? My money not good enough? Why am I on a second-class tier with less signal strength in buildings and in the wilds than those Three users who bought a Three phone? That cannot be right, Dave, can it? You are not really ‘respecting human rights’ by discriminating against me, are you. (I agree, a bit of a stretch this one but I could probably make a good case if I gave it some thought.)
Ah! I just had a thought. The FCC in the USA, most likely on the payroll of the corporates, are trying to get a two-speed internet; pay more and go faster; is that what you are planning Dave? Some businesses in the USA want it; the thinking populace at large doesn’t and they cynically know they will get no benefit, just increased prices and slower routing. They will be screwed!
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I know things didn’t go too well with your OFCOM appeal, Dave, and you only have a tiny bit of 800MHz spectrum you got from EE. Shame! Are you trying to make a feature of the mess you are in and the tiny bit of bandwidth you have? “Let’s call it ‘4G Voice’ and no one will know what it is and we can use it for sales pitches to the undecided. ‘If you buy our phone, Madam, we’ll give you free 4G Voice!’”
Voice-over-WiFi that kicks in when the phone signal is weak was a discovery on the Huawei too. You’ve been with-holding that from me as well. And that is not justifiable either Dave. Ethical, responsible? No; not Three.
I engaged your complaints procedure two days ago. I found myself interacting with Resolver.com. Well, OK, you’ve farmed complaints out; saves getting down and dirty doesn’t it? I made a complaint about unwanted Three branding defiling my property. The quite-serious complaint I’ve already explained to you was sent off. I received a message back the following day asking for name, address and phone number. All that information I gave the day before and was on the form that Resolver returned, printed plainly as part of the message. Clearly the handler decided to bat the case away for someone else to deal with. It happens. On my watch they would be helped to find employment suitable for their aptitude. Also, though, I was asked for my Date of Birth. I refused to give it. All the stuff I was being asked is exactly the kind of information hackers use to take over an identity. And I know nothing of Resolver.com and their bona fides. Now with GDPR you might think a bit more about the stuff you ask for. I would be identifiable to Three well enough from my name and telephone number; the last four digits of my bank account, the account which you debit monthly, would prove it was I. A small system change made by Three now and a future data leak at Resolver.com becomes less concerning. Got anyone in IT thinking about this? They probably do and already have. You look a fun guy though, I guess the golf course beckons quite often so you don’t get to hear wise counsel all that much. You’ve written your policy – and – well - the place runs itself doesn’t it?
And finally, today I contacted Three for a PAC code. Annie, bless her, was in an Indian call centre. She couldn’t understand me and I couldn’t understand her. Oh!! What a time we had, Annie and I! If communications engineering is your thing, then you’ll know preventing extraneous signal noise is vital. The noise on the channel this time though was not about signal processing, but simply human variation and accents, plus age-related hearing loss, all conspiring to make verbal communication difficult and stressful. When eventually she accepted I really was wanting to be away from Three I got passed to Rama; with slightly better English pronunciation and clarity of speech. But she too thought I might want to stay. Reading all the foregoing you might understand when I ask ‘why, in their right mind, would anyone want to’?
What do I take away from this? Huawei and the big four UK Telcoms are doing deals with each other that impinge on my rights and resale value of my phone; Huawei and the big four are to be avoided. The others of the ‘big four’ are not nearly so evil as Three. I judge people and businesses by what they do not what they say they do. More vernacular coming; I’m still raging.
I was only paying you 15 quid a month so I’m of no consequence. Enjoy your 9 holes of golf and lunch but kindly know you’ll **** on me no longer. But, for heaven’s sake, put your company policy into action and think a little bit, would you, Dave!
Yours sincerely but still very angry,
ps. The resolver.com is still running; I have heard nothing meaningful today from anyone at Three; I guess it will drift towards the Ombudsman and OFCOM sooner or later.
Wow, that's quite the opus! Looking forward to seeing what sort of response you get. I bought directly from Three but still unhappy about having the branding and the crappy apps foisted on me, not really much room to complain though.
shadowgolf said:
.... still unhappy about having the branding and the crappy apps foisted on me, not really much room to complain though.
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You have every right to complain!! Why should you have a defiled phone?
Dave's address is above write to him and tell him he's a scumbag!
Can anyone help me find stock firmware for this Note 8? I have flashed a few samsung phones using ODIN very simple for a noob like me.
A friend asked me if I could help her with her Note 8 stuck in a boot loop. I told her I would try but made no promises. Figured I'd flash it with a stock firmware and start there. I've been searching all night and I can't find it. I booted in recovery and this is what it says "N950usqu8dvb1" has anyone had luck with this firnware, or even seen this one? I can't find any trace of it on line. Any help is appreciated.
hello N950usqu8dvb1 is here :
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Have you tried Factory Reset first? or just clearing Cache?
zimpmd72 said:
Can anyone help me find stock firmware for this Note 8? I have flashed a few samsung phones using ODIN very simple for a noob like me.
A friend asked me if I could help her with her Note 8 stuck in a boot loop. I told her I would try but made no promises. Figured I'd flash it with a stock firmware and start there. I've been searching all night and I can't find it. I booted in recovery and this is what it says "N950usqu8dvb1" has anyone had luck with this firnware, or even seen this one? I can't find any trace of it on line. Any help is appreciated.
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I know this problem and the search for it just to good.
I wanted to root my old Note 8 Exynos German Version by Telefonica and messed it up a year ago.
I had that extra difficulty that my display is in "Camel_mode" (3/4 of the display is broken and just black, looking like the camel on the cigarette boxes. So there is only some kind of a bit stamp area at the upper left side working )
Now I know, I messed it up, because I was using wrong country version. Samsung has made it quite easy with Odin, so they put in some extra difficulty with these different country versions and even you need the right version of Odin for every kind of firmware version)
There are not only 2 different versions for Snapdragon and Exynos-pocket-warmers for different countrys, there are also different versions for every ISP in your country and in Germany there is some kind of extra "fits-all-ISP" Version (multi CSC)
So I was always getting the wrong version, after I barely find some edition of should fitting them all.
After some nights of searching, I gave up real frustrated and let it rotten in shelf for one year,
until successfull new attempt 2 months ago.
Now it is turning more and more into my power saving little all propose server and extra computer for all kind of experiments with Ubuntu and Kali Linux running via Thermux.
May god bless the first version of DEX station, that was even for free because of pre-ordering the phone.
After 6 or 7 versions of Odin and all kind of German adoptions, I could guide you through whole process just out of my mind. But unfortunately I am not real sure which Version finally worked. I got all very well documented and still saved with all that not working stuff, everything time consuming send in and tested by Virustotal, because some of the download and information sides are more power user orientated, so they provide you with some bonus material or challenging tasks for your entertainment and intense level of user experience.
To make it short, I am really with you and your problem of "just click here, download the version you need and it is done by Odin, before your coffee is ready....) In fact it is that easy, but only with the right version of firmware and matching Odin version ( in my case it was not the lastet one, even if you can read it on most sides.
So let's start and get the following information:
- Snapdragon or Exynos
- What Country and more important what phone company (SP (Telefon company)
- any locks of bootloader or some of that? (Knox is all ready dead, just forget it.)
Screenshot of that Odin mode screen would be helpful and provides you will all Information you need
Now you got the version N950usqu8dvb1
The first number after the N950 and some letters gives you the version of your firmware version!
In your case it is 8, so you got the 7th update after factory or the 8th version at all, if you want to call it like that
You want to look for a number 1 or even 2, because the first update is allways right after selling starts, so if it was not bought right in September, they might already updated it in factory, if it was her christmas present for example)
What Android Version was on it, at first start up?
I pre orderd my Note8 and got it the same day official sell started. I can remember it was on Android 7 and got the update to Android 8 quite some days or very few weeks later. So it made it not easier to find the original Android 7 factory version between all that Android 8 stuff.
Please just keep in mind, as lower that number, as more happy you will be.
The 3 letters before that one or even two digit number is your country code (CSC)
there might be a certain CSC for that special ISP (telefone company) or even just a multi -ISP code for whole area. Certain ISP version is allways better than just the (fits all) version.
Your CSC in N950usqu8dvb1 is USQ
We all know that effect shortly after buying our first jeans that "fits-all" but not my butt...
Or read this artical I have just found, to make yourself super sure, how your firmware number look like and how to understand what it means and how it helps you by that.
Samsung CSC Codes List (All) | Change CSC on Samsung Devices
Today, we'll explain Samsung CSC codes. Besides, we also have a list of CSC codes or region codes with a method to change CSC on Samsung.
www.droidviews.com
So just don't give up and no fear about that horrific drama of bricking it and only get some well designed door stopper....
That is only arketing of the company's, to better make you buy a new one or at least sending in and they will fix it for you.
In my case I propably would have gotten the extra expensive deluxe Package....
Display mostly complete black, guessing me through while system almost blind,
only be counting the amount of button hits and see a color change on the last rest of display in the top left.
So I must have clicked everything in every menu, they all make panic about, never ever to hit.
I must have done it several times, so my boot and more important, all factoryy pre-installed (one dozend ) partitions were completely f%!#;¢ or better say, "fallen" apart.
So I also needed to fine the right PIT number for the partions tablels and looked for hours until I understand, that this information is already included into your firmware number. So I needed to get some extra new tool, or was it by Odin at the end and that tool was just just a helping tool I can't remember which one finally made it to get that PIT but I still got all collected on my drives.
But at the end in maybe 60-80 hours at all, I teached myself from zero and a half by watching some YouTube videos for first attempt, Bricking it of course and giving them right, it is dangerous, never ever again,
until today, knowing every kind of special knowledge about that note8, because at the end you really try everything for every exotic issue you will find with now knowing so much about all flashing, Bricking, galaxy, Root, hardness of display or how fast these 2 little pigeons baby's growing up 2m away behind the window next to me and gave me that bad feeling it is finally time for go to sleep, when started to make alarm and remember pigeon parents for steady food supplies, around 4' o clock (in the morning )
And now it works just fine, hidden behind huge TV, oh I mean Desktop Monitor , with wireless mouse, keyboard and old but fast 256GB Stick + old 500 HDD attached on ACTIVE USB hub,
Not always but sometimes, it is just to much power for Dex station
Please just skip some of my frustrations on that topic and better get an active hub from start. Every cheap one with USB3.0 will be enough, because dexstation was coming out at time when USB 3.0 really started and so it the Dex was designed for these early speeds.
The best thing, now I have a mobile and quickly packed workstation with me and all I need is some kind of screen or TV/beamer which will be helpful not to use normal devices for and still got theset embarrassing messages popping up during presentation, like questions from mom or that it is only one more step to reach Platinum Mega user on your favorite adult entertainment site.
So don't give up and no fear of that mean daemon of expensive bricks.
Now you only have some useless but fancy door stopper or perfect material for next YouTube video
on how a flagship smartphone melts in fireplace, with these romantic cracking sounds of battery during long and cold winter nights.
I would also aks the other side, if Apple dont' want to sponsor this...
With other words, nothing to lose and you could just grab you a hot coffee and some fresh pigeon family
and get to work.
Most important:
Just feel free to ask your questions and strongly recommended to reward your brick for successful reincarnation with some DEX station and a long and productive second life.
Kay
PS: If nothing will help at the end, I would be really happy if you could send me the link to that YouTube video...
Kay Kostrowski said:
I know this problem and the search for it just to good.
I wanted to root my old Note 8 Exynos German Version by Telefonica and messed it up a year ago.
I had that extra difficulty that my display is in "Camel_mode" (3/4 of the display is broken and just black, looking like the camel on the cigarette boxes. So there is only some kind of a bit stamp area at the upper left side working )
Now I know, I messed it up, because I was using wrong country version. Samsung has made it quite easy with Odin, so they put in some extra difficulty with these different country versions and even you need the right version of Odin for every kind of firmware version)
There are not only 2 different versions for Snapdragon and Exynos-pocket-warmers for different countrys, there are also different versions for every ISP in your country and in Germany there is some kind of extra "fits-all-ISP" Version (multi CSC)
So I was always getting the wrong version, after I barely find some edition of should fitting them all.
After some nights of searching, I gave up real frustrated and let it rotten in shelf for one year,
until successfull new attempt 2 months ago.
Now it is turning more and more into my power saving little all propose server and extra computer for all kind of experiments with Ubuntu and Kali Linux running via Thermux.
May god bless the first version of DEX station, that was even for free because of pre-ordering the phone.
After 6 or 7 versions of Odin and all kind of German adoptions, I could guide you through whole process just out of my mind. But unfortunately I am not real sure which Version finally worked. I got all very well documented and still saved with all that not working stuff, everything time consuming send in and tested by Virustotal, because some of the download and information sides are more power user orientated, so they provide you with some bonus material or challenging tasks for your entertainment and intense level of user experience.
To make it short, I am really with you and your problem of "just click here, download the version you need and it is done by Odin, before your coffee is ready....) In fact it is that easy, but only with the right version of firmware and matching Odin version ( in my case it was not the lastet one, even if you can read it on most sides.
So let's start and get the following information:
- Snapdragon or Exynos
- What Country and more important what phone company (SP (Telefon company)
- any locks of bootloader or some of that? (Knox is all ready dead, just forget it.)
Screenshot of that Odin mode screen would be helpful and provides you will all Information you need
Now you got the version N950usqu8dvb1
The first number after the N950 and some letters gives you the version of your firmware version!
In your case it is 8, so you got the 7th update after factory or the 8th version at all, if you want to call it like that
You want to look for a number 1 or even 2, because the first update is allways right after selling starts, so if it was not bought right in September, they might already updated it in factory, if it was her christmas present for example)
What Android Version was on it, at first start up?
I pre orderd my Note8 and got it the same day official sell started. I can remember it was on Android 7 and got the update to Android 8 quite some days or very few weeks later. So it made it not easier to find the original Android 7 factory version between all that Android 8 stuff.
Please just keep in mind, as lower that number, as more happy you will be.
The 3 letters before that one or even two digit number is your country code (CSC)
there might be a certain CSC for that special ISP (telefone company) or even just a multi -ISP code for whole area. Certain ISP version is allways better than just the (fits all) version.
Your CSC in N950usqu8dvb1 is USQ
We all know that effect shortly after buying our first jeans that "fits-all" but not my butt...
Or read this artical I have just found, to make yourself super sure, how your firmware number look like and how to understand what it means and how it helps you by that.
Samsung CSC Codes List (All) | Change CSC on Samsung Devices
Today, we'll explain Samsung CSC codes. Besides, we also have a list of CSC codes or region codes with a method to change CSC on Samsung.
www.droidviews.com
So just don't give up and no fear about that horrific drama of bricking it and only get some well designed door stopper....
That is only arketing of the company's, to better make you buy a new one or at least sending in and they will fix it for you.
In my case I propably would have gotten the extra expensive deluxe Package....
Display mostly complete black, guessing me through while system almost blind,
only be counting the amount of button hits and see a color change on the last rest of display in the top left.
So I must have clicked everything in every menu, they all make panic about, never ever to hit.
I must have done it several times, so my boot and more important, all factoryy pre-installed (one dozend ) partitions were completely f%!#;¢ or better say, "fallen" apart.
So I also needed to fine the right PIT number for the partions tablels and looked for hours until I understand, that this information is already included into your firmware number. So I needed to get some extra new tool, or was it by Odin at the end and that tool was just just a helping tool I can't remember which one finally made it to get that PIT but I still got all collected on my drives.
But at the end in maybe 60-80 hours at all, I teached myself from zero and a half by watching some YouTube videos for first attempt, Bricking it of course and giving them right, it is dangerous, never ever again,
until today, knowing every kind of special knowledge about that note8, because at the end you really try everything for every exotic issue you will find with now knowing so much about all flashing, Bricking, galaxy, Root, hardness of display or how fast these 2 little pigeons baby's growing up 2m away behind the window next to me and gave me that bad feeling it is finally time for go to sleep, when started to make alarm and remember pigeon parents for steady food supplies, around 4' o clock (in the morning )
And now it works just fine, hidden behind huge TV, oh I mean Desktop Monitor , with wireless mouse, keyboard and old but fast 256GB Stick + old 500 HDD attached on ACTIVE USB hub,
Not always but sometimes, it is just to much power for Dex station
Please just skip some of my frustrations on that topic and better get an active hub from start. Every cheap one with USB3.0 will be enough, because dexstation was coming out at time when USB 3.0 really started and so it the Dex was designed for these early speeds.
The best thing, now I have a mobile and quickly packed workstation with me and all I need is some kind of screen or TV/beamer which will be helpful not to use normal devices for and still got theset embarrassing messages popping up during presentation, like questions from mom or that it is only one more step to reach Platinum Mega user on your favorite adult entertainment site.
So don't give up and no fear of that mean daemon of expensive bricks.
Now you only have some useless but fancy door stopper or perfect material for next YouTube video
on how a flagship smartphone melts in fireplace, with these romantic cracking sounds of battery during long and cold winter nights.
I would also aks the other side, if Apple dont' want to sponsor this...
With other words, nothing to lose and you could just grab you a hot coffee and some fresh pigeon family
and get to work.
Most important:
Just feel free to ask your questions and strongly recommended to reward your brick for successful reincarnation with some DEX station and a long and productive second life.
Kay
PS: If nothing will help at the end, I would be really happy if you could send me the link to that YouTube video...
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dude made an entire movie script out of his hardbricked Note 8