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Note seems to be getting slower

Hey guys, I think a few days ago i came in asking about battery issues and such. But this time i need to ask about the lag issues. I was an sgs2 owner, and i can say the SGS 2 in the long run as in leaving it on for a longer time, seems to hold itself better then the note.
When launching dolphin or whatsapp the note seems to stutter for a moment and when calling out the keyboard and typing it in it stutters at times. But then everything goes well. In terms of free ram i notice the sgs2 has like 500++ of free ram everytime i use the app killer. But the note only has like 300+. I wonder if this is the cause of those short spurts of lag.
I wish to remedy this issue, and if it means changing the kernel or using a whole new rom i don't mind. (Better battery life would be an added plus)
I'll just leave my specs down just incase anyone out there could help troubleshoot or give me some hints to my current situation.
The lag is very minimal but annoying at times ya know.
Launcher: SPB Shell 3D (Was using this on my SGS2 too without any lag)
Android Version: 2.3.5
Baseband: N7000DXKJ3
Kernel version 2.6.35.5+N7000DKK1-CL706642 [email protected] #2
Build Number: Gingerbread.DXKK1

Anyone??

kamale said:
Hey guys, I think a few days ago i came in asking about battery issues and such. But this time i need to ask about the lag issues. I was an sgs2 owner, and i can say the SGS 2 in the long run as in leaving it on for a longer time, seems to hold itself better then the note.
When launching dolphin or whatsapp the note seems to stutter for a moment and when calling out the keyboard and typing it in it stutters at times. But then everything goes well. In terms of free ram i notice the sgs2 has like 500++ of free ram everytime i use the app killer. But the note only has like 300+. I wonder if this is the cause of those short spurts of lag.
I wish to remedy this issue, and if it means changing the kernel or using a whole new rom i don't mind. (Better battery life would be an added plus)
I'll just leave my specs down just incase anyone out there could help troubleshoot or give me some hints to my current situation.
The lag is very minimal but annoying at times ya know.
Launcher: SPB Shell 3D (Was using this on my SGS2 too without any lag)
Android Version: 2.3.5
Baseband: N7000DXKJ3
Kernel version 2.6.35.5+N7000DKK1-CL706642 [email protected] #2
Build Number: Gingerbread.DXKK1
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kamale said:
Anyone??
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Try to update the phone to 2.3.6.
There have been a lot of performance fixes.
I've noticed those little lags at 2.3.5 too but now they are gone.

..well i have a lags with 2.3.6.
I Sgs2 owner too.
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the only lag that bugs me is that when i first start typing on the keyboard, it has a bit of lag for 1-2 seconds. after that its generally fine. nothing game breaking, but still annoying.
and yeah, i noticed the crappy amount of free ram ages ago. tempted to install a vanilla ICS rom whenever one is available.

Hey guys. I'm a new Galaxy Note owner. Just had it for 2 days now, and while I've experienced some minor issues this is still by far the nicest phone I have ever used. My previous phone was a rooted and CM7'd HTC desire.
Regarding general lag on this phone, I've found that using a lot of widgets can cause slowdowns. If you try removing some, or all widgets, does this speed things up for you somewhat? I've removed most of the samsung bloatware including almost all of the tw interface. Now i'm using ADW2 as my launcher, 3 screens, smart keyboard pro, and dialer ex.
Still looking to flash to Cyanogenmod or ICS whenever that becomes available.

Mine was very Laggy. I used Autokiller to see all the crap that was running. It was truly amazing that damn near everything installed on Android runs some kind of Demon, and stay resident program.
My lag immediately disappeared after terminating this junk that I had not run in a week or so. Looks like some sort of Windows version of Linux!

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les_garten said:
...Android runs some kind of Demon...
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Daemon not Demon...
BTW, coming to the original question, try KL3 ROM. Up until now(KKA), I was having severe lag issues with 3rd party launchers, but with KL3, all that is history. So I assume KL3 is a much faster ROM overall. Also, try freezing the apps that are running these heave/unnecessary background processes.
I'm on AbyssNote 2.2, stock KL3 ROM if it matters to you...

How do i go about getting this KL3 rom? Any step by step guide?

Army92 said:
Try to update the phone to 2.3.6.
There have been a lot of performance fixes.
I've noticed those little lags at 2.3.5 too but now they are gone.
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Where can i go to get my android version upgraded?

kamale said:
Where can i go to get my android version upgraded?
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It's now only available in India

use "startup cleaner pro" app. you can select apps which you DONT want to startup during restart/reboot etc. most of the installed apps automatically start on its own during reboot/restart etc. so install this app and remove all unwanted apps startups. i had this prob with S2. and after using this app, after startup it shows hw many apps were autokilled..mine shows like 35-40 apps!!!

Just got KL3 it seems a lot snappier. No keyboard lag any more. Also found a setting in ADW2 EX for cache quality, turned it to low which has improved things slightly. Just had the new ROM for a few hours but everything so far is working well.

dzontra11 said:
..well i have a lags with 2.3.6.
I Sgs2 owner too.
Sent from my GT-N7000 using xda premium
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Just noticed this today myself and I am on 2.3.6.

kamale said:
Where can i go to get my android version upgraded?
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It's not available OTA. you need to connect your SGN (via USB) to your pc/paltop having Kies installed. Kies will detect firmware upgrade and allow you to download and install.

Are you guys on the German Note to get this update? I'm thinking of getting it unlocked, or maybe just from Vodafone here since it's out, but I HATE how long it takes VF to update their phones (I'm also not a fan of rooting for warranty purposes).

I can confirm upgraded from previous firmware to KL3 nowipe using mobile odin no cache wipe or anything, the phone went from having major lag to being snappy and battery savings are huge.

RAM in G1

Hi
I asking how much ram is you getting in a g1
I'm running froyobylazlo and getting beetween 20 - 30 mb free ram
Is any possibility to increase the amount of avaliable ram?
I'm also using the radio hack
Sent from my HTC Dream using xda premium

yes, use a smaller rom, use cmtd or possibly update your radio/spl.
i assume your radio hack refers to the 2708+ (dont think fbl works with out it) so you should be good here. search for a thread on custom mtd. this is the mapping layout for your phone. you can adjust how much space is given to the system and cache. with fbl i think you can gain at least 20mb this way. and if you dont mind changing roms there are some that are a bit smaller that can help you trim down a bit too.
good luck!

demkantor said:
yes, use a smaller rom, use cmtd or possibly update your radio/spl.
i assume your radio hack refers to the 2708+ (dont think fbl works with out it) so you should be good here. search for a thread on custom mtd. this is the mapping layout for your phone. you can adjust how much space is given to the system and cache. with fbl i think you can gain at least 20mb this way. and if you dont mind changing roms there are some that are a bit smaller that can help you trim down a bit too.
good luck!
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... are you sure you understood the difference between RAM and internal memory?

Try advance task killer app it always worked for me.
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AndDiSa said:
... are you sure you understood the difference between RAM and internal memory?
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i should pay more attention to what i read!
ram something like 96mb, remember these phones are the dinosaurs of smartphones, well android anyway. the hardware is around 4 years old and wasnt set up to run todays android or todays apps. so it will always seem slow. you will find that using a task killer isnt always the best way to free up ram, you could end up with lost text messages or alarms not going off and such, i know we wont to try anything for our old phones so try something more like watchdog that will tell you if an app is actually slowing the cpu or not.
ram in our android phones is not like ram in your pc, for android ram almost full isnt bad it means things will load faster
im guessing you asking this because your phone is slow, the best fix is a 1.6 rom or a new phone! even with overclocking our phones cpu arent fast enough for what we need, froyobylaszlo is a good rom, not much better or faster so with out a good way of freeing ram or adding speed just be happy with what you have!

running COS-DS, have 40+MB ram free all the time

[Q] best ROM that consumes less RAM

Hi
I am using samsung galaxy i9000. its a great device but one feature that irritates me is that it has just 512mb of ram. i have used many ROMs but still can't find any suitable ROM that consumes less ram. By less i mean max 200 mb.
Please tell me that there is a ROM that has no bugs and is not addicted to the Ram of my device. :crying::crying:

cool.bilalrana said:
Hi
I am using samsung galaxy i9000. its a great device but one feature that irritates me is that it has just 512mb of ram. i have used many ROMs but still can't find any suitable ROM that consumes less ram. By less i mean max 200 mb.
Please tell me that there is a ROM that has no bugs and is not addicted to the Ram of my device. :crying::crying:
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I've had this phone for two years and I've done everything you can imagine with it, not once have I come anywhere near running out of RAM... Have you actually run into problems? And how? I'm on CM10.1 right now and it's sitting at 209MB used.
Now I've been trying for several minutes to make a problem with it. Opening everything I can and making it all use as much RAM as possible at the same time. The cache is full now, but it's sitting at 212MB used when I go to the running apps page. Your problem is a mystery to me.

cool.bilalrana said:
Hi
Please tell me that there is a ROM that has no bugs and is not addicted to the Ram of my device. :crying::crying:
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Linux uses all available memory as a cache, it's not a problem.
Have a look here: http://www.linuxatemyram.com/

FjarrKontroll said:
I've had this phone for two years and I've done everything you can imagine with it, not once have I come anywhere near running out of RAM... Have you actually run into problems? And how? I'm on CM10.1 right now and it's sitting at 209MB used.
Now I've been trying for several minutes to make a problem with it. Opening everything I can and making it all use as much RAM as possible at the same time. The cache is full now, but it's sitting at 212MB used when I go to the running apps page. Your problem is a mystery to me.
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Well i am using different apps for different purposes insted of using custom apps. like GO SMS, Go launcher, and some keypad apps.
and most importantly it slows down the games like subway surfer, 6 guns. and there are many other lags that accour after running some apps.

cool.bilalrana said:
Well i am using different apps for different purposes insted of using custom apps. like GO SMS, Go launcher, and some keypad apps.
and most importantly it slows down the games like subway surfer, 6 guns. and there are many other lags that accour after running some apps.
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Are you looking for a JB ROM?
Try using some clean AOSP ports: Oficial Android 4.2 (Galaxy Nexus Stock Rom) <Beta 1> by Dev Elitemovil / presenter: iall5tar,
or custom mixes build on sources: Slim Bean 4.2.1 RC1
You should also consider giving a try some older ROMs from Gingerbread (2.3.6) family. You will find fairly up-to-date i9000 ROM list over: HERE.

cool.bilalrana said:
Hi
I am using samsung galaxy i9000. its a great device but one feature that irritates me is that it has just 512mb of ram. i have used many ROMs but still can't find any suitable ROM that consumes less ram. By less i mean max 200 mb.
Please tell me that there is a ROM that has no bugs and is not addicted to the Ram of my device. :crying::crying:
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I installed stable C-ROM 4.1.1, it works blady fast....

Should be noted anyone checking available ram in system settings loses 40-50mb ram to... system settings x)
It's not even remotely accurate at gauging exactly what you have to work with, for several reasons.
Sent from my GT-I9000 using xda premium

How much your Galaxy Note's rams are left after flashing jelly bean?

Currently I am on Eybee's deodexed stock jelly bean and flashed the integrated mod 1,2,3 and it runs super smooth and works perfect :fingers-crossed: (thank you eybee)
But somehow, the rams seem to be not enough since the leaked firmware LSC, and my rams are usually around 230~280 even though I deleted samsung apps and other useless apps..
Is it a normal thing that happens to every Galaxy Note users because it has various functionality such as S Note, popup brower, mini note, and so forth?

It's normal. When you open apps and close them again they'll get loaded into RAM so they can launch faster the next time you want to use an app. There's no reason to have 600 MB free RAM since the RAM is there for a reason. There's no reason to have 1GB of RAM if you don't use it.
The OS will also automatically make room when you use an app that's resource hungry, like a huge game for example. It will kill a process that's been loaded into RAM that you haven't used for a while.

Sangsoo Ha said:
Currently I am on Eybee's deodexed stock jelly bean and flashed the integrated mod 1,2,3 and it runs super smooth and works perfect :fingers-crossed: (thank you eybee)
But somehow, the rams seem to be not enough since the leaked firmware LSC, and my rams are usually around 230~280 even though I deleted samsung apps and other useless apps..
Is it a normal thing that happens to every Galaxy Note users because it has various functionality such as S Note, popup brower, mini note, and so forth?
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I do'nt care. Free RAM is unused resource. Andrid manages it, and my experience with LSA and LSZ since November did not reveal any problem..

Always have 300mb above

On ICS Stock ROM after cleansing I get about 450MB.
A user on CarbonROM (4.2.2) thread posted 460MB number.

mine is always free 400 to 500
now you can see in the photo 471 free ram

452mb here
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via GT-N7OOO using XDA-2

How do you achieve that guys, 450 mb? I always have like 150 or so, making it really laggy.
Sent from my GT-N7000 using Tapatalk 2

i notice a difference in TW and aosp Roms like cm 10
the ram available is higher in TW roms than cm 10 roms
not sure why but TW roms lag after a continous usage

latste JB rom
Verstuurd van mijn GT-N7000 met Tapatalk

noteics said:
latste JB rom
Verstuurd van mijn GT-N7000 met Tapatalk
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try root and freezing uninstalling bloatware, stop autostarts of aps your not using and use small sized apps

LordManhattan said:
It's normal. When you open apps and close them again they'll get loaded into RAM so they can launch faster the next time you want to use an app. There's no reason to have 600 MB free RAM since the RAM is there for a reason. There's no reason to have 1GB of RAM if you don't use it.
The OS will also automatically make room when you use an app that's resource hungry, like a huge game for example. It will kill a process that's been loaded into RAM that you haven't used for a while.
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Oh.. I have never realized it. Thank you very much for the reply with details. :fingers-crossed: I really appreciate it sir

CSharpHeaven said:
On ICS Stock ROM after cleansing I get about 450MB.
A user on CarbonROM (4.2.2) thread posted 460MB number.
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Carbon rom? How is it? Is it like smoother than stock jelly bean? So attempting to give a try downloading it

Thank you!!
Wow.. thank you for all these precious and wonderful replies!
And sorry that I cannot reply back for all these nice comments
Actually, this is my first time posting a thread and never thought there would be loads of replies here :fingers-crossed:
Again, thank you very much for your efforts and hope to see you guys again soon!

Sangsoo Ha said:
Oh.. I have never realized it. Thank you very much for the reply with details. :fingers-crossed: I really appreciate it sir
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From my experience,
1. AOSP rom (400-500mb) have more RAM than TW rom (300-400mb) after clearing all running apps.
2. Also depends on the launcher that you used. (NOVA seems lighter than the TW)
3. how many and what widget are you using on the launcher. (Widgets like apps, eat RAM!)
but if you still feel laggy or no way to clear the RAM after doing everything. Flash a better ROM...

Im using cm10.1 KeiraS,, memory free above 400-450mb :victory:

RAM Management and Caching of Apps issue

First of all, "I feel sorry for the people on MIUI Forums, disregarding every bug and making people feel as if we should pay Xiaomi for using their devices "
Coming to the point, we all are aware how bad MIUI is at multitasking on MI 3. Heck, I feel jealous of my Galaxy Core(2+ years old) having 1GB of RAM but still able to hold 3 CHROME tabs along with other apps at once.(My MI 3 on the other hand, -_- )
I am least bothered about the "low ram visible to us" thing people complain.I just want proper multtasking capability on my 2 GIGS of ram, and by multitasking, I mean background caching of apps.
Thus , me being a noob, need help to promote this thread so as to find a way ( like buildprop file tweak etc.) which we can use for the MEMORY MANAGEMENT problems on our STOCK MIUI Roms.
I really have lost all hope that we'll be getting proper sources for bug free ROMS, so this is a humble request to all capable developers that we have here.
Thanks in advance!! :fingers-crossed:

Mokee is really stable, worth trying.

Me_Ashish_ said:
Mokee is really stable, worth trying.
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Seconding this! :good:

Try metallium OS or EOS both are rock stable...and EOS also have OTA Updates.....!

Me_Ashish_ said:
Mokee is really stable, worth trying.
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+1

bluethilak said:
+1
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I agree that Some custom roms are swesome, mokee being one of them, but what I would really love is to have an multitasking improvement over Default MIUI ROM

thisisakash said:
I agree that Some custom roms are swesome, mokee being one of them, but what I would really love is to have an multitasking improvement over Default MIUI ROM
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Go in developer options, and set "memory optimisation" to "off"... You will see some difference.. But still i agree, miui is very bad at multitasking...

a.broken.star said:
Go in developer options, and set "memory optimisation" to "off"... You will see some difference.. But still i agree, MIUI is very bad at multitasking...
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Will doing that really help? Let me hope!
Changed the option to OFF.REBOOTED the device. Will test for one day, and let others know!

thisisakash said:
Will doing that really help? Let me hope!
Changed the option to OFF.REBOOTED the device. Will test for one day, and let others know!
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Yes, the multitasking will improve considerably..

UPDATE
thisisakash said:
First of all, "I feel sorry for the people on MIUI Forums, disregarding every bug and making people feel as if we should pay Xiaomi for using their devices "
Coming to the point, we all are aware how bad MIUI is at multitasking on MI 3. Heck, I feel jealous of my Galaxy Core(2+ years old) having 1GB of RAM but still able to hold 3 CHROME tabs along with other apps at once.(My MI 3 on the other hand, -_- )
I am least bothered about the "low ram visible to us" thing people complain.I just want proper multtasking capability on my 2 GIGS of ram, and by multitasking, I mean background caching of apps.
Thus , me being a noob, need help to promote this thread so as to find a way ( like buildprop file tweak etc.) which we can use for the MEMORY MANAGEMENT problems on our STOCK MIUI Roms.
I really have lost all hope that we'll be getting proper sources for bug free ROMS, so this is a humble request to all capable developers that we have here.
Thanks in advance!! :fingers-crossed:
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So as an update, after changing Memory Optimisation to "NONE" , the situation has improved only by 8-10% or so, and the RAM management issue remains the same.So I am probably stuck with the phone for another year. Atleast the phone does not lag one bit.:angel:

thisisakash said:
So as an update, after changing Memory Optimisation to "NONE" , the situation has improved only by 8-10% or so, and the RAM management issue remains the same.So I am probably stuck with the phone for another year. Atleast the phone does not lag one bit.:angel:
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First thing I did when I got this phone, was to flash a custom ROM. I came form a Nexus 4, where very few people use the stock ROM.
Right now, there are plenty of excellent options for the Mi3.
I have been using EOS for about 2 months now, and I highly recommend it. I installed an app called Resource Monitor Pro, which allows you to display available RAM on the screen - I have positioned it to just next to the (centred) clock.
Between updating to later versions of this ROM, I have had 300 hours of uptime without any sort of lag, using all sorts of apps and games: RAM management has been exactly as expected - between 400mb and 600mb free. That is, the ROM is doing a good job of managing memory, killing old tasks and keeping recent tasks in memory until something else comes along.
If I were you, I would read up on how to get into the dangerously addictive world of custom ROMs...

Okay, one more solution if you want to stick to miui (as it is the most stable rom) and not lollipop roms.
Use a third party MiUi rom. These guys have really improved multitasking on the modded miui roms. I don't know if its allowed to post link here, but there you go :
http://m.romzj.com/rom/35835.htm

paul c said:
First thing I did when I got this phone, was to flash a custom ROM. I came form a Nexus 4, where very few people use the stock ROM.
Right now, there are plenty of excellent options for the Mi3.
I have been using EOS for about 2 months now, and I highly recommend it. I installed an app called Resource Monitor Pro, which allows you to display available RAM on the screen - I have positioned it to just next to the (centred) clock.
Between updating to later versions of this ROM, I have had 300 hours of uptime without any sort of lag, using all sorts of apps and games: RAM management has been exactly as expected - between 400mb and 600mb free. That is, the ROM is doing a good job of managing memory, killing old tasks and keeping recent tasks in memory until something else comes along.
If I were you, I would read up on how to get into the dangerously addictive world of custom ROMs...
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The only reason keeping me from trying a custom rom is a working camera with good pictures, and certain deal breaker bugs.Do you suggest to try the ROM inspite of the above?

thisisakash said:
The only reason keeping me from trying a custom rom is a working camera with good pictures, and certain deal breaker bugs.Do you suggest to try the ROM inspite of the above?
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Try the ROM that I posted the link to.. Its MiUi with some tweaks...

a.broken.star said:
Okay, one more solution if you want to stick to miui (as it is the most stable rom) and not lollipop roms.
Use a third party MiUi rom. These guys have really improved multitasking on the modded miui roms. I don't know if its allowed to post link here, but there you go :
http://m.romzj.com/rom/35835.htm
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You use the above ROM? Any reviews?

thisisakash said:
You use the above ROM? Any reviews?
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Yup.. I'm using it for past 2 weeks. Its very fast as compared to original miui.
1) multitasking is better. On original miui, suppose you have chrome opened with 3 tabs, you get a sms containing OTP, you open the msg, copy the OTP, switch back to chrome and you find that all three tabs start to load again, and whatever transaction you are in between on lost.
But in this ROM tabs dont reload. When you open a lot of apps together, then only old apps are closed automatically..
Try it.. You can flash it on your current MiUi without wiping system or data. Remember to flash Gapps after flashing this rom.. It dont have GApps built in..