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in cpu setting > available governors.....what this is

GingerDX V19..
in cpu setting > available governors.....what this is ??
smartass.
conservative.
ondemand.
userspace.
powersave.
performance.
This are the features? let your battery faster? I could spend the description of all? and which option makes the ROM faster?

smartass
Based on interactive, but better.
conservative
Available in some kernels. It is similar to the ondemand governor, but will scale the CPU up more gradually to better fit demand. Conservative provides a less responsive experience than ondemand, but can save battery.
ondemand
Available in most kernels, and the default governor in most kernels. When the CPU load reaches a certain point (see "up threshold" in Advanced Settings), ondemand will rapidly scale the CPU up to meet demand, then gradually scale the CPU down when it isn't needed.
userspace
A method for controlling the CPU speed that isn't currently used by SetCPU. For best results, do not use the userspace governor.
powersave
Available in some kernels. It will keep the CPU running at the "min" set value at all times.
performance
Available in most kernels. It will keep the CPU running at the "max" set value at all times. This is a bit more efficient than simply setting "max" and "min" to the same value and using ondemand because the system will not waste resources scanning for the CPU load. This governor is recommended for stable benchmarking.
Don't set governor to performance just because it's "performance". It will not increase your phone's speed in any way. Better use ondemand. For performance, I suggest ondemand. For battery smartass.

Smartass is based on ondemand governor but better and not on interactive

I got reboot when I enable smartass on gingerDX, any sugession?

ahlulnugraha said:
I got reboot when I enable smartass on gingerDX, any sugession?
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Few solutions
- u must not exceed the overclock limit (710 Mhz). So, change it or dint use oc
-everytime it reboots,just enter xrecovery and clear cache and dalvik cache
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ahlulnugraha said:
I got reboot when I enable smartass on gingerDX, any sugession?
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are u on LDX?

What is smartass v2,interactive and interactiveX?

maliceomalice said:
Few solutions
- u must not exceed the overclock limit (710 Mhz). So, change it or dint use oc
-everytime it reboots,just enter xrecovery and clear cache and dalvik cache
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I'm using LinuxDX so I didn't use oc, I had try to wipe but I still got reboot when enable smartass, btw are DSPmanager causing this?
chewdaniel said:
are u on LDX?
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yeah I'm using LDX, it is compatible?
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Ldx doesnt support overclock,use alfsamsungs kernel.

ahlulnugraha said:
I'm using LinuxDX so I didn't use oc, I had try to wipe but I still got reboot when enable smartass, btw are DSPmanager causing this?
yeah I'm using LDX, it is compatible?
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LDX has known problems with smartass. the only workaround is to either flash stock kernel and revert or u need to do a fullwipe

[Q] Which is the most recommended Governor

I'm using emanoN V4 with No-Frills, and since CM7.1 with SetCPU, I always used 'ondemand' as Governor.
But reading other posts on other devices forums about this, some people say SmartassV2 is the best...
So, as each device is different (specially by the ARM version and manufacturer), I decided to begin this conversation here, and listen to what people with the same device as me has to say about it.
So which Governor do you consider the best for SGM?

Im using cm7.2, setting at nofrilis Governor : SavagedZen io : sio and undervolt at cm setting, give more battery life.
Sory for bad english
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felipevsw said:
I'm using emanoN V4 with No-Frills, and since CM7.1 with SetCPU, I always used 'ondemand' as Governor.
But reading other posts on other devices forums about this, some people say SmartassV2 is the best...
So, as each device is different (specially by the ARM version and manufacturer), I decided to begin this conversation here, and listen to what people with the same device as me has to say about it.
So which Governor do you consider the best for SGM?
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sio if u need less laggy n smooth

v-mix said:
sio if u need less laggy n smooth
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Thanks for the reply, but as I can see on No-Frills, sio is th I/O Scheduler, that is already set. I'm asking here about the Governor.

Ondemand and set noop
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on emanonV4 i use Smartassv2 nd i/o noop

I see that people are very divided between ondemand and SmartassV2.
Now with sio and noop as I/O Scheduler.
Anyone else would like to share?

i will say ondemand because cpu will be set at lowest frequency and when you need it it will set at higher frquency which will save your battery and if you want performance then no lag will be good

The principle of the ondemand governor I'd already figured out (and actually didn't like it, very rough).
I would like to hear more about the principle of the SmartassV2, whereas since this morning I'm using SmartassV2 + noop and I noticed my SGM way smoother than with ondemand + sio.
Now is wait and see if the battery is sucked more.

felipevsw said:
The principle of the ondemand governor I'd already figured out (and actually didn't like it, very rough).
I would like to hear more about the principle of the SmartassV2, whereas since this morning I'm using SmartassV2 + noop and I noticed my SGM way smoother than with ondemand + sio.
Now is wait and see if the battery is sucked more.
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smartassV2 is a re-working of the original smartass governor, it allows for the CPU to scale through all frequencies from the lowest you set to the highest, based on the load occuring. Basically it scales CPU based on realtime needs of the system, saV2 supposedly incorporates some more agressive settings for screen off, and I believe quicker scaling than the original smartass.

dhlalit11 said:
smartassV2 is a re-working of the original smartass governor, it allows for the CPU to scale through all frequencies from the lowest you set to the highest, based on the load occuring. Basically it scales CPU based on realtime needs of the system, saV2 supposedly incorporates some more agressive settings for screen off, and I believe quicker scaling than the original smartass.
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Thanks a lot, man! And now I think that I had made my choice:
Governor: SmartassV2
I/O Scheduler: noop
Highly recommended!

New Governor?

Hi! I really want interactive or interactivex governor on my phone. I know we can use custom kernel to have that. I cant unlock my bootloader... so.... Is there anyway to install it? I had searched in Google but no luck... HELP!
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Halllllllooooooo....
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What does interactive n interactivex do?
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I heard it has more performance and stability.
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lucastan96 said:
I heard it has more performance and stability.
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I tried it..
I set the cpu freq to 787
But the antutu benchmark score is really low.... Only about 1100+ =_=
And..
Red light when im going to play dead space
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lucastan96 said:
Hi! I really want interactive or interactivex governor on my phone. I know we can use custom kernel to have that. I cant unlock my bootloader... so.... Is there anyway to install it? I had searched in Google but no luck... HELP!
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interactive is same as smartass!
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lucastan96 said:
Hi! I really want interactive or interactivex governor on my phone. I know we can use custom kernel to have that. I cant unlock my bootloader... so.... Is there anyway to install it? I had searched in Google but no luck... HELP!
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interactive is same as smartass!
Powersave
Constantly runs the processor at its slowest speed. While technically this sounds like it would save power in practise it doesn’t, as it takes so much longer to complete tasks the CPU cannot fall into sleep states where it truly saves power.
Ondemand
Dynamically changes CPU frequency in response to CPU utilization. Probably the best balanced governor to choose as it selects the highest available processor frequency when the processor load rises above a definable threshold (up_threshold). Could create an amount of latency.
Conservative
A more aggressive version of the Ondemand governor that would be a better choice for more demanding tasks, as it’s responds more quickly in meeting increases in CPU demand and keeps the speed rating higher for longer, at the price of battery life.
Userspace
Use the userspace governor if you want to impose a unique power policy that is not provided by other kernel governors or if you want to experiment with directly setting different power policies.
Interactive
This uses an alternative approach to sampling CPU demand at a set rate. It uses a fixed timer that if the CPU is 100% busy when it fires, continues to ramp the CPU speed to the maximum setting. If it’s not the speed is ramped down based on recent measured demand.
SmartAss (v2)
Available with a number of kernels but doesn’t have any official description beyond being an improved variant of the Interactive governor. It’s the one we tend to opt for.

Ok... thanks for helping... edward, you should open a thread you written above in general section.
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lucastan96 said:
Ok... thanks for helping... edward, you should open a thread you written above in general section.
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I agree
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What abouth SavagedZen???

drapeti said:
What abouth SavagedZen???
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Well, the best description you can find is in the changelog of savagedzen's Kernel on Github ...
Brand spanking new SavagedZen CPU Governor !!! Based off of the SMARTASS gov. Brings the smartass goodness plus a few more tweaks.
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Now take your own pick what this means, or what improvements it may bear.

edward091810 said:
interactive is same as smartass!
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interactive is same as smartass!
Powersave
Constantly runs the processor at its slowest speed. While technically this sounds like it would save power in practise it doesn’t, as it takes so much longer to complete tasks the CPU cannot fall into sleep states where it truly saves power.
Ondemand
Dynamically changes CPU frequency in response to CPU utilization. Probably the best balanced governor to choose as it selects the highest available processor frequency when the processor load rises above a definable threshold (up_threshold). Could create an amount of latency.
Conservative
A more aggressive version of the Ondemand governor that would be a better choice for more demanding tasks, as it’s responds more quickly in meeting increases in CPU demand and keeps the speed rating higher for longer, at the price of battery life.
Userspace
Use the userspace governor if you want to impose a unique power policy that is not provided by other kernel governors or if you want to experiment with directly setting different power policies.
Interactive
This uses an alternative approach to sampling CPU demand at a set rate. It uses a fixed timer that if the CPU is 100% busy when it fires, continues to ramp the CPU speed to the maximum setting. If it’s not the speed is ramped down based on recent measured demand.
SmartAss (v2)
Available with a number of kernels but doesn’t have any official description beyond being an improved variant of the Interactive governor. It’s the one we tend to opt for.
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So you dont want to open thread? I will help you open it..
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[Q] Xperia X8 CPU Overclocking effect ?

hi, i just wanna now is the overclock are really working or take any effect ?
i will show you my CPU frequency on attachment
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Kevalvino said:
hi, i just wanna now is the overclock are really working or take any effect ?
i will show you my CPU frequency on attachment
Thanks XDA !!​
if this problem solved, please remove this thread
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Max. Frequency value is wrong
work hard, play hard

Gogeta said:
Max. Frequency value is wrong
work hard, play hard
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how much max freq ? i set 825mhz in cm setting and my phone reboot

Kevalvino said:
how much max freq ? i set 825mhz in cm setting and my phone reboot
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Keep decreasing it until your phone becomes stable(no reboot)
work hard, play hard

Gogeta said:
Keep decreasing it until your phone becomes stable(no reboot)
work hard, play hard
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oh yes, what is smartass and other governor ?

smartass is a governor, smartassv2 is recommended and together with deadline scheduler

Eren Jaeger said:
smartass is a governor, smartassv2 is recommended and together with deadline scheduler
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how about smartassV2 with Si0 scheduler, i use it on JB and it's popping~

syahazu said:
how about smartassV2 with Si0 scheduler, i use it on JB and it's popping~
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depends on what you need. smartassV2 is a balance of performance and battety life. sio is stable, if i read correctly. i use either ondemand or interactive governor with vr scheduler since i don't use my x8 much nowadays.

@cascabel , alright thanks mate, im gonna stay with my current settings
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cascabel said:
depends on what you need. smartassV2 is a balance of performance and battety life. sio is stable, if i read correctly. i use either ondemand or interactive governor with vr scheduler since i don't use my x8 much nowadays.
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where can i get smartass v2 libs ?

Kevalvino said:
where can i get smartass v2 libs ?
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afaik it's included in the kernel, and no module for stock. hopefully i'm wrong amd someone can point it out.

There is smartass module but it has some bugs http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=1159899

HUGE RENDERING, FPS and SMOOTHNESS improvement on OOS.

I don't know if it works on OOS versions but it does, on the OB12. You need to be rooted to be doing this.
Lower the input boost to 1036 on the big and 556 on the small first. Now, change the governor of the big cluster to conservative and the small to ondemand or conservative , benefit!
To see the improvement in FPS, you need to go to developer options and switch on profile GPU rendering. For those who didn't understand this: lower the graph is, higher the fps. Hit thanks if helped

Where to change these settings?

Any kernel manager would do. I'd recommend kernel aduitor

chinmai560621 said:
Any kernel manager would do. I'd recommend kernel aduitor
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Just change the option of GPU GOVERNER to simple_on demand one from the above mentioned app. It will work smooth.. works for me..:good:?

ashokspidy said:
Just change the option of GPU GOVERNER to simple_on demand one from the above mentioned app. It will work smooth.. works for me..:good:?
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I'd recommend to leave it on msm-adreno.

What if I'm on RR 5.8.2 and ElementalX? I have ondemand governor option for little but don't have conservative for big cluster.

karliyo said:
What if I'm on RR 5.8.2 and ElementalX? I have ondemand governor option for little but don't have conservative for big cluster.
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This is exclusive for OOS. In fact, the interactive is supposed to be better than the rest but it's not the case on OOS which is why I made this thread.

chinmai560621 said:
This is exclusive for OOS. In fact, the interactive is supposed to be better than the rest but it's not the case on OOS which is why I made this thread.
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Oh alright. Little governor ondemand seems quite fine right now.
By the way, are both governors interactive by default?

karliyo said:
Oh alright. Little governor ondemand seems quite fine right now.
By the way, are both governors interactive by default?
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Has to be. Unless you use blu_spark kernel. It uses blu_activ.

How do these changes affect the battery life?

chinmai560621 said:
Has to be. Unless you use blu_spark kernel. It uses blu_activ.
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You mean interactive and not blu_active?
I do recommend you guys taking a look at AKT.. There are alot of peformance oriented and balanced profiles that are already better with smoothness then stock.. Also Franco has some magic with stock settings!

chinmai560621 said:
I don't know if it works on OOS versions but it does, on the OB12. You need to be rooted to be doing this.
Lower the input boost to 1036 on the big and 556 on the small first. Now, change the governor of the big cluster to conservative and the small to ondemand or conservative , benefit!
To see the improvement in FPS, you need to go to developer options and switch on profile GPU rendering. For those who didn't understand this: lower the graph is, higher the fps. Hit thanks if helped
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Hi friend, shall I change both values of big and small? I mean maximum and minimum?

Same, cant find where to change the input values for those two.

rOck4n said:
Same, cant find where to change the input values for those two.
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You'll see input boost in the bottom section of CPU in kernel adiutor. Core 1- 1036, core 3 -556 is what you've to do. It'll be 1324 default on both. I'm suggesting that for slightly better battery life

MarcTremonti said:
How do these changes affect the battery life?
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Lower SOTs are obvious, but to what degree is what matters. As far as I see, it's not that much.

GUYS, I recommend not to use this anymore. Oneplus has a reason to not release the kernel with conservative on . This is because conservative is not optimized for battery while interactive is. If interactive weren't optimized for battery, it'd be better than conservative for sure. I get only 4 hr sot on conservative but 5.5 on interactive. Though this is not placebo, it has a negative impact on SOT .

When I change big cluster to conservative, those cores will always stay above 2 GHz, as shown in Kernel Adiutor.

chinmai560621 said:
GUYS, I recommend not to use this anymore. Oneplus has a reason to not release the kernel with conservative on . This is because conservative is not optimized for battery while interactive is. If interactive weren't optimized for battery, it'd be better than conservative for sure. I get only 4 hr sot on conservative but 5.5 on interactive. Though this is not placebo, it has a negative impact on SOT .
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The thread is about more performance and you're discussing battery life....of course it will have a lower battery life, the question is are you happy when your quad-core phone stutters....

chinmai560621 said:
You'll see input boost in the bottom section of CPU in kernel adiutor. Core 1- 1036, core 3 -556 is what you've to do. It'll be 1324 default on both. I'm suggesting that for slightly better battery life
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Got it, thank you. I did notice a slightly battery improvement after two cycles.

Little investigation..
chinmai560621 said:
GUYS, I recommend not to use this anymore. Oneplus has a reason to not release the kernel with conservative on . This is because conservative is not optimized for battery while interactive is. If interactive weren't optimized for battery, it'd be better than conservative for sure. I get only 4 hr sot on conservative but 5.5 on interactive. Though this is not placebo, it has a negative impact on SOT .
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Good you realised that.. I did a little investigation on your tweak.. Apparently setting governor to conservative locks the frequency of big cluster to max possible, usually above 2 ghz and it will step down slowly ( by slow I mean really slow like 1-2 seconds). Thus causes you to have very less render times on gpu profile as shown in the xda portal post.. I opened up ex kernel manager and observed same freq in higher range.
After some time I just changed governor to interactive and changed minimum freq of big cluster to 2 ghz.. I observed the same render times as situation as time when conservative was set as governor...
So this tweak is nothing but type of placebo since ramping up freq can lead to faster processing
Edit.: Couple of people on xda portal have said the same.. I didn't check it..