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in cpu setting > available governors.....what this is

GingerDX V19..
in cpu setting > available governors.....what this is ??
smartass.
conservative.
ondemand.
userspace.
powersave.
performance.
This are the features? let your battery faster? I could spend the description of all? and which option makes the ROM faster?

smartass
Based on interactive, but better.
conservative
Available in some kernels. It is similar to the ondemand governor, but will scale the CPU up more gradually to better fit demand. Conservative provides a less responsive experience than ondemand, but can save battery.
ondemand
Available in most kernels, and the default governor in most kernels. When the CPU load reaches a certain point (see "up threshold" in Advanced Settings), ondemand will rapidly scale the CPU up to meet demand, then gradually scale the CPU down when it isn't needed.
userspace
A method for controlling the CPU speed that isn't currently used by SetCPU. For best results, do not use the userspace governor.
powersave
Available in some kernels. It will keep the CPU running at the "min" set value at all times.
performance
Available in most kernels. It will keep the CPU running at the "max" set value at all times. This is a bit more efficient than simply setting "max" and "min" to the same value and using ondemand because the system will not waste resources scanning for the CPU load. This governor is recommended for stable benchmarking.
Don't set governor to performance just because it's "performance". It will not increase your phone's speed in any way. Better use ondemand. For performance, I suggest ondemand. For battery smartass.

Smartass is based on ondemand governor but better and not on interactive

I got reboot when I enable smartass on gingerDX, any sugession?

ahlulnugraha said:
I got reboot when I enable smartass on gingerDX, any sugession?
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Few solutions
- u must not exceed the overclock limit (710 Mhz). So, change it or dint use oc
-everytime it reboots,just enter xrecovery and clear cache and dalvik cache
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ahlulnugraha said:
I got reboot when I enable smartass on gingerDX, any sugession?
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are u on LDX?

What is smartass v2,interactive and interactiveX?

maliceomalice said:
Few solutions
- u must not exceed the overclock limit (710 Mhz). So, change it or dint use oc
-everytime it reboots,just enter xrecovery and clear cache and dalvik cache
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I'm using LinuxDX so I didn't use oc, I had try to wipe but I still got reboot when enable smartass, btw are DSPmanager causing this?
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are u on LDX?
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yeah I'm using LDX, it is compatible?
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Ldx doesnt support overclock,use alfsamsungs kernel.

ahlulnugraha said:
I'm using LinuxDX so I didn't use oc, I had try to wipe but I still got reboot when enable smartass, btw are DSPmanager causing this?
yeah I'm using LDX, it is compatible?
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LDX has known problems with smartass. the only workaround is to either flash stock kernel and revert or u need to do a fullwipe

[Q] Explanation of different governors

Hi guys.
I would like to know the differences amongst various governors. I googled a bit and both on the net and XDA I found some explanations, but not all the governors I have are properly explained. Some of them are not explained at all.
Is there anybody able to help me?
I found some info here and here
The governors I have with FM1.5 not explained are:
lazy
lulzactive
lagfree
intellidemand
smartassv2
ondemandx
Ok, some of them like lagfree could be self-explanatory, but I would be grateful if somebody could be more clear...
Thanks as usual to all!!

bump.
no one?

Note to myself: answer this thread when you get home...

Not at home? :-D
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Not at home? :-D
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have you reached home yet? would be glad if you could answer

I was in Prague for a week
Ok, so, to be honest using only Google I found this:
lazy (http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=1276092) - is ondemand but with an added option to stay longer on a certain frequency. This is due to the fact that some CPU's dont like too quick freq changes when sampling rate for decision making is set too low. See link for more.
lulzactive (http://tegrak2x.blogspot.com/2011/11/lulzactive-governor-v2.html) - is basically interactive governor with added smartass bits and variable (as opposed to fixed amout) frequency scaling, based on currently occuring cpu loads. Has, like smartass, a sleep profile built-in. See link for details on exact scaling.
lagfree (http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=1272933) - seems to be ondemand but with a lessend tendency to ramp up to 100% but rather also use steps available in between 0-100%.
intellidemand (freely translated from http://www.android-hilfe.de/root-hacking-modding-fuer-samsung-galaxy-s2/185085-ist-ein-governor.html) - behaves like ondemand when the system is under heavy use, it behaves differently when the system is mostly ideling. That mode is colled "browsing mode" or "browser mode" or whatever. It seems to be some sort of "intelligent" demand sensing/analysing ondemand governor.
smartassV2 - this one should be known. It's the same as smartass(V1) but tweaked. Same code author. I heard one should use smartassV2 instead of smartass when available.
ondemandx - is ondemand with an added sleep profile built-in. I believe all ...X kernels are the default kernels but with an added sleep profile.
Just in case you wonder: I use Savagedzen, I somehow like it best. And I have to get up at 4:20am thats in 2:48h so you may excuse me if I go to bed.

thanks +1

Hope you found the info you were looking for already, if not - take a look at this: http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=1369817

Learning something about governers

What's new:-
added wheatley governor
added hotplug governor
added lionheart
added lionheartx
added Scary governor
added SavagedZen governot
Working of governers
WHEATLEY:- this is yet another governor for the users who want to save battery as much as they can
The governor intelligently set the frequencies according the usage of the CPU, if the usage is high then frequency will also be high and when usage is low it will set the low frequency
This governor is made by doing changes in the ondemand governor and can be used in the place of conservative
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HOTPLUG:- The “hotplug” governor scales CPU frequency based on load, similar to“ondemand”. It scales up to the highest frequency when “up_threshold”is crossed and scales down one frequency at a time when “down_threshold”is crossed. Unlike those governors, target frequencies are determinedby directly accessing the CPUfreq frequency table, instead of takingsome percentage of maximum available frequency.
The key difference in the “hotplug” governor is that it will disableauxillary CPUs when the system is very idle, and enable them again oncethe system becomes busy. This is achieved by averaging load overmultiple sampling periods; if CPUs were online or offlined based on asingle sampling period then thrashing will occur
Sysfs entries exist for “hotplug_in_sampling_periods” and for“hotplug_out_sampling_periods” which determine how many consecutiveperiods get averaged to determine if auxillery CPUs should be onlined orofflined. Defaults are 5 periods and 20 periods respectively.Otherwise the standard sysfs entries you might find for “ondemand” and“conservative” governors are there.
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LIONHEARTX:- LionheartX is based on Lionheart but has a few changes on the tunables and features a suspend profile based on Smartass governor.
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LIONHEART:- Lionheart is a conservative-based governor which is based on samsung's update3 source. Tweaks comes from 1) Knzo 2) Morfic. The original idea comes from Netarchy. See here. The tunables (such as the thresholds and sampling rate) were changed so the governor behaves more like the performance one, at the cost of battery as the scaling is very aggressive.
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SCARY:- This is just a weird governor. It's based on Conservative which has a slower ramping than Ondemand butthen again it has Smartass elements which is a governor with one the fastest rampings.
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SAVAGED ZEN:- Another Smartass-based kernel with many modifications aiming to attain both better battery and performance.
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LULZACTIVE:- This new find from Tegrak is based on Interactive & Smartass governors and is one of the favorites. When workload is greater than or equal to 60%, the governor scales up CPU to next higher step. When workload is less than 60%, governor scales down CPU to next lower step. When screen is off, frequency is locked to global scaling minimum frequency.
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INTELLIDEMAND:- Intellidemand aka Intelligent Ondemand from Faux is yet another governor that's based on ondemand. Unlike what some usersbelieve, this governor is not the replacement for OC Daemon (Having different governors for sleep and awake). The original intellidemand behaves differently according to GPU usage. When GPUis really busy (gaming, maps, benchmarking, etc) intellidemand behaves like ondemand. When GPU is 'idling' (or moderately busy), intellidemand limits max frequency to a step depending on frequencies available in your device/kernel for saving battery. This is called browsing mode.
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ONDEMAND X:- governor code from latest linux (3.0 at the moment) source *plus* the suspend/wake logic. No further optimization is done.
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ONDEMAND:- Available in most kernels, and the default governor in most kernels. When the CPU load reaches a certain point (see “up threshold” in Advanced Settings), ondemand will rapidly scale the CPU up to meet demand, then gradually scale the CPU down when it isn't needed.
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INTERACTIVE:- Available in newer kernels, and becoming the default scaling option in some official Android kernels. The interactive governor is functionally similar to theondemand governor with an even greater focus on responsiveness.
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CONSERVATIVE:- Available in some kernels. It is similar to the ondemand governor, but will scale the CPU up more gradually to better fit demand. Conservative provides a less responsive experience than ondemand, but can save battery.
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PERFORMANCE:- Available in most kernels. It will keep the CPU running at the “max” set value at all times. This is a bit more efficient than simply setting “max” and “min” to thesame value and using ondemand because the system will not waste resources scanning for CPU load.
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POWERSAVE:- Available in some kernels. It will keep the CPU running at the “min” set value at all times.
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USERSPACE:- A method for controllingthe CPU speed that isn't currently used by SetCPU. For best results, donot use the userspace governor.
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SAMRTASS:- Included in some customkernels. The smartass governor effectively gives the phone an automatic Screen Off profile, keeping speeds at a minimum when the phone is idle.
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ALWAYS MAX:- The Performance “governor”, called “Always Max” on previous versions of SetCPU, allows your phone to run at maximum speed, ignoring all power saving functions.
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SMOOTHASS:- The same as the Smartass “governor” But MUCH moreaggressive & across the board this one has a better battery life that is about a third better than stock KERNEL.
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INTERACTIVEX:- The same thing as interactive but it clocks the cpu downto 300mhz in sleep mode.
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SMARTASS V2:- Is a re-working of the original smartass governor, it allows for the CPU to scale through all frequencies from the lowest you set to the highest, based on the load occuring. Basically it scales CPU based on realtime needs of the system, saV2 supposedly incorporates some more agressive settings for screen off, and I believe quicker scaling than the original smartass.
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BRAZILIANWAX:- Similar to smartassV2. More aggressive ramping, so more performance, less battery.
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LAG FREE:- This driver is rather similar to the 'ondemand' governor both in its source code and its purpose, the difference is its optimization for better suitability in a battery powered environment. The frequencyis gracefully increased and decreased rather than jumping to 100% when speed is required.
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MIN/MAX:- stays at minimum speed until more speed is needed then goes straight to highest speed.
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APPLY THESE GOVERNERS WISELY

where can i get SMARTASS V2?
i use No-frill but don't have it..

marKyAn said:
where can i get SMARTASS V2?
i use No-frill but don't have it..
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developer of the kernel have to add the governor to kernel

marKyAn said:
where can i get SMARTASS V2?
i use No-frill but don't have it..
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It depends on the OC kernel if the developer included it. Are you using a custom ROM? SMARTASS V2 is the default governor of CM7 RC0 by subpsyke. :

Guys if you need ny info about any governor then please write it here and i will add that

dhlalit11 said:
Guys if you need ny info about any governor then please write it here and i will add that
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Would appreciate if you can add the custom kernel by squad, lilgv2.. and its difference with smartassv2..
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kitrax59 said:
Would appreciate if you can add the custom kernel by squad, lilgv2.. and its difference with smartassv2..
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+1
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Anass Ahmed said:
+1
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i have seen that many people are looking for the info about lilgv2 but it is device specific and specially created by squadzone for gmini
so i have contacted squadzone for the info but didn't get any reply yet
when i get reply i will add it here so please wait for some time

Thx a lot, i was always using performance and my battery was draining really fast.
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gumball3000 said:
Thx a lot, i was always using performance and my battery was draining really fast.
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why just saying thanks why not pressing it

dhlalit11 said:
why just saying thanks why not pressing it
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Because we use XDA app and there's no thanks button in it!
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I am using the xda app, i don't think it's possible. Ill give you a like if you really want.
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To reply thanks is just simple.
Tap on particular post and choose ur options

marKyAn said:
where can i get SMARTASS V2?
i use No-frill but don't have it..
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Flash emanoN. It already includes that.

Nice thread I always wanted to know more about the governors. Thanks

sufacs surety.
android1999 said:
Flash emanoN. It already includes that.
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also included by default in the new CM Music_Edition_v3

What is the difference btween ondemand and ondemandX?
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Kaustubh_93 said:
What is the difference btween ondemand and ondemandX?
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Added ondemandx governor no much difference

since we know that squads kernels have instead smartassv2 lilgv2, would be really nice to know how is it improved
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since we know that squads kernels have instead smartassv2 lilgv2, would be really nice to know how is it improved
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these are the key upgrades in smartass v2 they are different from device to device
1. Smartass v2 have added a more aggressive screen off profile but if you have applied a screen off profile it will cause issue
2. Smartass v2 is more responsive than before
3. Smartass v2 have changed default frequency
4. Saves much power than before

Governors and Schedulers, Explained.

Ok guys, this is going to be a long post but I think in the end, it will put a lot of good information to everyone to help them understand kernels a little better. I may not have a machine to be able to develop but I do know quite a bit of stuff lol. Anyway, here's a thread to inform everyone about the different sections of kernels.
First I would like to give some "thanks."
mtmichaelson - for giving us this badass 1.9gHz kernel to play with and for doing soooooo much for development! We are forever in your debt.
droidphile - for teaching me just about everything I know.
*I'm sure there are more people and if I missed you, let me know!*
First, let's start with "governors."
OnDemand:
The default governor in almost all stock kernels. One main goal of the ondemand governor is to switch to max frequency as soon as CPU activity is detected to ensure the responsiveness of the system. Effectively, it uses the CPU busy time as the answer to the "how critical is performance right now" question. So Ondemand jumps to maximum frequency when CPU is busy and decreases the frequency gradually when CPU is less loaded/apporaching idle. Even though many of us consider this a reliable governor, it falls short on battery saving and performance on default settings. One potential reason for ondemand governor being not very power efficient is that the governor decides the next target frequency by instant requirement during sampling interval. The instant requirement can respond quickly to workload change, but it does not usually reflect workload real CPU usage requirement in a longer time and it possibly causes frequent changes between highest and lowest frequency.
Conservative:
A slower Ondemand which scales up slowly to save battery. The conservative governor is based on the ondemand governor. It functions like the Ondemand governor by dynamically adjusting frequencies based on processor utilization. However, the conservative governor increases and decreases CPU speed more gradually. Simply put, this governor increases the frequency step by step on CPU load and jumps to lowest frequency on CPU idle. Conservative governor aims to dynamically adjust the CPU frequency to current utilization, without jumping to max frequency. The sampling_down_factor value acts as a negative multiplier of sampling_rate to reduce the frequency that the scheduler samples the CPU utilization. For example, if sampling_rate was equal to 20,000 and sampling_down_factor is 2, the governor samples the CPU utilization every 40,000 microseconds.
Smartass2:
Version 2 of the original smartass governor from Erasmux. Another favorite for many people. The governor aims for an "ideal frequency", and ramps up more aggressively towards this freq and less aggressive after. It uses different ideal frequencies for screen on and screen off, namely awake_ideal_freq and sleep_ideal_freq. This governor scales down CPU very fast (to hit sleep_ideal_freq soon) while screen is off and scales up rapidly to awake_ideal_freq when screen is on. There's no upper limit for frequency while screen is off (unlike Smartass). So the entire frequency range is available for the governor to use during screen-on and screen-off state. The motto of this governor is a balance between performance and battery.
Userspace:
Instead of automatically determining frequencies, it lets the user set the frequencies.
Powersave:
Locks max frequency to min frequency. Can not be used as a screen-on or even screen-off (if scaling min frequency is too low).
Performance:
Sets min frequency as max frequency. Very useful while benchmarking!
Smoothass:
The same as the Smartass “governor” But MUCH more aggressive & across the board this one has a better battery life that is about a third better than stock KERNEL.
Now for the "schedulers."
Noop:
Inserts all the incoming I/O requests to a "First In First Out" queue and implements request merging. Best used with storage devices that does not depend on mechanical movement to access data (yes, like a flash drive). Advantage here is that flash drives do not require reordering of multiple I/O requests unlike in normal hard drives.
*Advantages*​1. Serves I/O requests with least number of cpu cycles. (Battery friendly?)
2. Best for flash drives since there is no seeking penalty.
3. Good throughput on db systems.
*Disadvantages*​1. Reduction in number of cpu cycles used is proportionate to drop in performance.
Deadline:
Goal is to minimize I/O latency or starvation of a request. The same is achieved by round robin policy to be fair among multiple I/O requests. Five queues are aggressively used to reorder incoming requests.
*Advantages*​1. Nearly a real time scheduler.
2. Excels in reducing latency of any given single I/O.
3. Best scheduler for database access and queries.
4. Bandwidth requirement of a process - what percentage of CPU it needs, is easily calculated.
5. Like noop, a good scheduler for solid state/flash drives.
*Disadvantages*​1. When the system is overloaded, the set of processes that may miss deadline is largely unpredictable.
CFQ:
Completely Fair Queuing scheduler maintains a scalable per-process I/O queue and attempts to distribute the available I/O bandwidth equally among all I/O requests. Each per-process queue contains synchronous requests from processes. Time slice allocated for each queue depends on the priority of the 'parent' process.
*Advantages*​1. Considered to deliver a better balanced i/o performance.
2. Easiest to tune.
3. Excels on multiprocessor systems.
4. Best database system performance after deadline.
*Disadvantages*​1. Some users report that media scanning takes longer to complete using CFQ. This could be because of the property that since the bandwidth is equally distributed to all i/o operations during boot-up, media scanning is not given any special priority.
2. Jitter (worst-case-delay) exhibited can sometimes be high, because of the number of tasks competing for the disk.
SIO:
Simple I/O scheduler aims to keep minimum overhead to achieve low latency to serve I/O requests. No priority quesues concepts, but only basic merging. SIO is a mix between noop & deadline. No reordering or sorting of requests.
*Advantages*​1. Simple, very very reliable.
2. Minimized starvation of requests.
*Disadvantages*​1. Slow random-read speeds on flash drives, compared to other schedulers.
2. Sequential-read speeds on flash drives also not so good.
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That's about all I have for now lol. If I can think of anymore stuff to post on here, I'll get it as soon as I get a chance. Thanks for reading!

Reserved for more info!

Thanks!!!
Can you also include information about smoothass?

Missed interactive. Fyi stock gov on this thing. Which is odd and the first time I've ever seen that.
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Haro912 said:
Missed interactive. Fyi stock gov on this thing. Which is odd and the first time I've ever seen that.
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Blitzed doesn't have Interactive which is why I left it out. Fyi not the default lol
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Blitzed doesn't have Interactive which is why I left it out. Fyi not the default lol
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By on this thing I was hoping everyone would realize that I was on my Prime at the time. It's the default on there

Haro912 said:
By on this thing I was hoping everyone would realize that I was on my Prime at the time. It's the default on there
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Oh lol sorry I thought you were talking about the Revo.
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Thanks for taking the time to explain all of that. I learned a few things.
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scyther2333 said:
Thanks!!!
Can you also include information about smoothass?
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I should be adding stuff about smoothass soon.
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Excellent thread hicks, thanks for the info!
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thanks a lot...
don't mean to add more work for you but i think it would be great if you could give an overview of governors and schedulers and how/why they work in android

scyther2333 said:
thanks a lot...
don't mean to add more work for you but i think it would be great if you could give an overview of governors and schedulers and how/why they work in android
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Lol that's pretty much exactly what this thread is.

I second that
Obsidian_soul said:
Thanks for taking the time to explain all of that. I learned a few things.
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Thanks from me too... very informative.... and appreciated.
St3vi3

Can we get an explanation of smoothass please? I can't seem to find much with a standard google search, well except for some things I'd rather not mention lol
Thanks hicks
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OP updated with the "short and sweet" descriptive of "Smoothass."
scyther2333 said:
thanks a lot...
don't mean to add more work for you but i think it would be great if you could give an overview of governors and schedulers and how/why they work in android
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corypwrs said:
Can we get an explanation of smoothass please? I can't seem to find much with a standard google search, well except for some things I'd rather not mention lol
Thanks hicks
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^ This made me laugh my ass off haha. I just pictured someone sitting at maybe a library or some public computer and innocently trying to find info on the "smoothass" governor hahahahaha!

spc_hicks09 said:
^ This made me laugh my ass off haha. I just pictured someone sitting at maybe a library or some public computer and innocently trying to find info on the "smoothass" governor hahahahaha!
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I wasn't really thinking about it much until the search results came up. Luckily I was on my laptop at home or else it would've been awkward for me lol
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Just curious, why does, smartass2 and smoothass only utilize stock cpu speeds?
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Just curious, why does, smartass2 and smoothass only utilize stock cpu speeds?
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It doesn't. It uses all speeds that I included.
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It doesn't. It uses all speeds that I included.
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Most of the descriptions here are for a stock Gingerbread kernel.
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I figured it out. Im using CPU Master and i had to set thru the program and then thru the widget for some reason. Thanks
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how i configure CastagnaKernel OV for have max performance

how i configure CastagnaKernel OV for have max performance without trasform in cheese my cpu? what the governor? the i/o scheduler and the processor mhz?
Sorry for my bad english,but i am an ignorant

OV? Over-volt? do you mean OC? Overclock or UV? Undervolt
smartassV2/SIO (personal favourites)
245mhz/1800mhz (so default settings)
And I think you can better post this in the topic itself, and you will never turn your cpu into cheese, i once ran a benchmark at 2.016Ghz, and it just turned off

broodplank1337 said:
OV? Over-volt? do you mean OC? Overclock or UV? Undervolt
smartassV2/SIO (personal favourites)
245mhz/1800mhz (so default settings)
And I think you can better post this in the topic itself, and you will never turn your cpu into cheese, i once ran a benchmark at 2.016Ghz, and it just turned off
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I remembered the cranium kernel at 2016 mhz..it became really hot...
Ondemand( little bit tweaked) 368 1804 sio...that s perfect
Q.D.E.

It would be better if you post this on kernel's thread I think there is no need to made a new post about that and sorry but and I'm not trying to be disrespectful. however you can use smartassv2 245-1800mhz that's a good choice.
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the combination of default: lulzactive + sio is very performant (CFS version)
or you can try the governor lagfree
if you want the best reactivity using the BFS kernel version,
but is less multitasking