heyy people can u point out wich one to choose from SGS or DEFY+ ?
all i know is both having 1ghz cpu...but want to know which one is better for gaming with option of future updates...
thanx alot people
Defy has 800 MHz as standard and this is the sgs forum so i'm sure most people will vote for the sgs Read up reviews and watch reviews on youtube for the most help. Type defy vs sgs on youtube and you might find some good reviews.
asn39 said:
heyy people can u point out wich one to choose from SGS or DEFY+ ?
all i know is both having 1ghz cpu...but want to know which one is better for gaming with option of future updates...
thanx alot people
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Hello asn39!
First of all i want to classify the advantages of SGS over MOTOdefy+
-->1Ghz Hummingbird & 1GHz bump from TI-OMAP-3610 to 3620!
1) The point here is the Hummingbird has a GPU PowerVRSGX 540 that is superior over PowerVR SGX 530.
2) You have an overclock of 1.7 GHz paired wih a 40MHz increase in GPU.
3) It beats the MSM8255 in terms of FPS...
-->SUPER AMOLED screen!
--> No of ROM[20+Mod]'s and Kernel[8Mods] packs availability for SGS i9K.
-->Enchanced Sound from SGS coz of Voodoo v10 FIX'es.
-->Hack's and Mod's for SGS are under development.
now you have to decide whether to take SGS or Moto!
Ashtrix said:
Hello asn39!
First of all i want to classify the advantages of SGS over MOTOdefy+
-->1Ghz Hummingbird & 1GHz bump from TI-OMAP-3610 to 3620!
1) The point here is the Hummingbird has a GPU PowerVRSGX 540 that is superior over PowerVR SGX 530.
2) You have an overclock of 1.7 GHz paired wih a 40MHz increase in GPU.
3) It beats the MSM8255 in terms of FPS...
-->SUPER AMOLED screen!
--> No of ROM[20+Mod]'s and Kernel[8Mods] packs availability for SGS i9K.
-->Enchanced Sound from SGS coz of Voodoo v10 FIX'es.
-->Hack's and Mod's for SGS are under development.
now you have to decide whether to take SGS or Moto!
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Totally agreed SGS has best gaming experince and high video quality with smooth and soft touch....and too fast
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The SGS is highly individual and one of the flattest phones. Furthermore it's very light and well to handle. One big advantage is the stability - if it is having contact with the floor, it won't give up being a gentle friend ;-)
Get it, love it
SGS for sure
I have the possibility to exchange the Optimus black with Galaxy S i9000. What do you think,should I make the deal?
hhmmm....let me seee....
OB...............................................SGS
5MP + Flash.................................Just 5MP without flash
430 MB of RAM.............................380MB of RAM
SGX 530 GPU...............................SGX 540 GPU
Official ICS....................................No Official ICS
inly FEW active development..........Strong develoment and community
total score : 3 total score : 2
i know there is other factor to choose one of them....but actually, I like OB, camera and flash is my main priority(I have galaxy ace before OB, and I buy OB because of 720p videos), and plain offocial ICS with my own tweaks is enough for me.....
but ultra stable CM 9 & 10 and SGX 540 sound very appelaing to me....but 380MB RAM???? come on??!!!......actually, I am as confuse as you......
I'm considering the exchange because 3d games(GTA,Asphalt 7 etc) on OB don't work to smooth.I guess on Galaxy S I won't have problems ,because of the better gpu sgx540.
Lol... Samsung Galaxy S1 is a piece of sh*t.. I remember that I sent an app to my friend and his phone locked .. he had to remove the battery.. on my OB this never happened.
And OB has flash, S1 doesnt` have.
I just say NO .
Marius The Boss said:
I'm considering the exchange because 3d games(GTA,Asphalt 7 etc) on OB don't work to smooth.I guess on Galaxy S I won't have problems ,because of the better gpu sgx540.
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the RAM, will not enough to play most HD games, just like OB
if you don't need camera flash, go for it
Ob is better...
But not in the development way...
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Hi there,
With recent announcement of Galaxy Young DS it's (maybe) possible for us to get JB/CM10 for our Jena since the phone likely would be same with our Jena (spec wise, it's dual sim, processor upgraded to 1 Ghz and RAM to 768 MB)
here the comparison:
http://www.gsmarena.com/compare.php3?idPhone1=5280&idPhone2=3883
or atleast if this device real cheap, we could buy this to replace our Jena
more info:
Porobu said:
The galaxy young single sim uses a qualcomm MSM7X27 cpu
http://www.android.gs/six-new-samsu...s-galaxy-fonblet-5-8-cheap-nexus-10-and-more/
The benchmark logs also talk about Samsung Galaxy Young, codenamed GT-S6310/GT-S6312, which boasts a 1 GHz Qualcomm 7×27 GPU, Adreno 200 GPU and HVGA display with a resolution 480 x 320 pixels. Even though it was initially tested on Android 4.0.4, the smartphone will hit the market with Jelly Bean.
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dels07 said:
Hi there,
With recent announcement of Galaxy Young DS it's (maybe) possible for us to get JB/CM10 for our Jena since the phone likely would be same with our Jena (spec wise, it's dual sim, processor upgraded to 1 Ghz and RAM to 768 MB)
here the comparison:
http://www.gsmarena.com/compare.php3?idPhone1=5280&idPhone2=3883
or atleast if this device real cheap, we could buy this to replace our Jena
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Hmm nice phone but in this phone not has NFC support.
i hope its not a son of broadcom...jena still...no need for dual sim ...
The galaxy young single sim uses a qualcomm MSM7X27 cpu
http://www.android.gs/six-new-samsu...s-galaxy-fonblet-5-8-cheap-nexus-10-and-more/
The benchmark logs also talk about Samsung Galaxy Young, codenamed GT-S6310/GT-S6312, which boasts a 1 GHz Qualcomm 7×27 GPU, Adreno 200 GPU and HVGA display with a resolution 480 x 320 pixels. Even though it was initially tested on Android 4.0.4, the smartphone will hit the market with Jelly Bean.
do search before posting threads
as someone have got a reply from samsung's facebook account that sgm2 will have jb Soon
hey all
its about 1 month since i started to search what my new smart phone (my first actually) should be.....now the last battle is between xperia z and lumia 920.....i hate that there rnt many videos about them together on YouTube....i just have 2 points to ask about....screen and processor....i know that u will say Z is HD and 441 PPI 5 inch..........and lumia is 4.5 .HD and so........i know it i just want some1 who tried both is there rly big difference in the display?.....the same about processor..Big difference?.......i saw the theoritical way....i need to hear about ur practice ^_^
BTW i cant try both phones as neither of them is in my city......thats why iam asking u Friends ^_^
thanks in advance
abokorayem said:
hey all
its about 1 month since i started to search what my new smart phone (my first actually) should be.....now the last battle is between xperia z and lumia 920.....i hate that there rnt many videos about them together on YouTube....i just have 2 points to ask about....screen and processor....i know that u will say Z is HD and 441 PPI 5 inch..........and lumia is 4.5 .HD and so........i know it i just want some1 who tried both is there rly big difference in the display?.....the same about processor..Big difference?.......i saw the theoritical way....i need to hear about ur practice ^_^
BTW i cant try both phones as neither of them is in my city......thats why iam asking u Friends ^_^
thanks in advance
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I tried both. The 920 is good but the system (Windows Mobile) it's running on is a complete disaster (Lack of apps, ugly UI, etc). It's build and design is also nothing less than pathetic in comparison to the Z. You won't notice a big difference in the pixel density unless you put your eyes very close to the display but I would still side with the Z because if a dead pixel arises, it will much harder to notice it on the Z, since its display is much more densely packed with them. The processor is also superior on the Z but what the 920 has, will suffice for most tasks aside from the newest and latest games (Once again, the Z wins here because it's more future-proof).
On a side notice, could you try to write nicer next time, the use of shorthand is annoying.
Traczyk said:
I tried both. The 920 is good but the system (Windows Mobile) it's running on is a complete disaster (Lack of apps, ugly UI, etc). It's build and design is also nothing less than pathetic in comparison to the Z. You won't notice a big difference in the pixel density unless you put your eyes very close to the display but I would still side with the Z because if a dead pixel arises, it will much harder to notice it on the Z, since its display is much more densely packed with them. The processor is also superior on the Z but what the 920 has, will suffice for most tasks aside from the newest and latest games (Once again, the Z wins here because it's more future-proof).
On a side notice, could you try to write nicer next time, the use of shorthand is annoying.
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thanks 4 ur help
just a question.....if i didnt know that xperia z is quad and lumia is dual....would i notice that in performance?
about WP 8 i actually love it .....llack of apps will be fixed gradually...and i heard that xperia z lags more than lumia 920..true?.............and what about battery life?
thanks in advance
abokorayem said:
thanks 4 ur help
just a question.....if i didnt know that xperia z is quad and lumia is dual....would i notice that in performance?
about WP 8 i actually love it .....llack of apps will be fixed gradually...and i heard that xperia z lags more than lumia 920..true?.............and what about battery life?
thanks in advance
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quad and dual are very noticible.. quad can fast proccesing in apps,ofcors its quad, ull notice that on dual core. u might take catching up sometime when opening an app.. (windows phone for me not that useable by my daily basis).. im using ZL same specs in Z.. i dont have any problems with it.. my suggestion is use Z.. battery life so far not an issue anyways.. its on how you use ur phone..
julianalexander said:
quad and dual are very noticible.. quad can fast proccesing in apps,ofcors its quad, ull notice that on dual core. u might take catching up sometime when opening an app.. (windows phone for me not that useable by my daily basis).. im using ZL same specs in Z.. i dont have any problems with it.. my suggestion is use Z.. battery life so far not an issue anyways.. its on how you use ur phone..
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thanks 4 ur reply but about processor let me agree and disagree aswell..........dual vs quad ofcourse quad wins but lumia runs WP8 with no lags at all....in some vids that i watched on Youtube i saw that devices with Quad core as Xperia z and With Android just lags a bit....they said something about adware..malware wich slows android down
abokorayem said:
thanks 4 ur reply but about processor let me agree and disagree aswell..........dual vs quad ofcourse quad wins but lumia runs WP8 with no lags at all....in some vids that i watched on Youtube i saw that devices with Quad core as Xperia z and With Android just lags a bit....they said something about adware..malware wich slows android down
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Yes,as my friend using wp8 i used it for a few minutes,my observation is the the os is light,very minimal use of processing,i agree aswell,but for having quad im sure it helps fast speed, ofcors by the help of ram to take effect.. Quad integrates on multi tasking and as what i say,ram is there to help.. And it boils to what you comfortably using.. Lets keep this thread very useful. On some other threads comparing etc. Is been lockdown..
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julianalexander said:
Yes,as my friend using wp8 i used it for a few minutes,my observation is the the os is light,very minimal use of processing,i agree aswell,but for having quad im sure it helps fast speed, ofcors by the help of ram to take effect.. Quad integrates on multi tasking and as what i say,ram is there to help.. And it boils to what you comfortably using.. Lets keep this thread very useful. On some other threads comparing etc. Is been lockdown..
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I agree all the way with u but....i got something to say which will need confirmation from u
that this is : If iam not a gamer or care alot about heavy 3d games....Lumia 920 would match me more,right?
I mean camera...speakers....even display (bravia engine is only on in photos and vids while HD+ and pure motion r always on)
oh btw....after the buttons bar (the grey one) how large the screen is?4.8 inchs or what?
Thanks in advance
abokorayem said:
hey all
its about 1 month since i started to search what my new smart phone (my first actually) should be.....now the last battle is between xperia z and lumia 920.....i hate that there rnt many videos about them together on YouTube....i just have 2 points to ask about....screen and processor....i know that u will say Z is HD and 441 PPI 5 inch..........and lumia is 4.5 .HD and so........i know it i just want some1 who tried both is there rly big difference in the display?.....the same about processor..Big difference?.......i saw the theoritical way....i need to hear about ur practice ^_^
BTW i cant try both phones as neither of them is in my city......thats why iam asking u Friends ^_^
thanks in advance
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First of all let's compare both phones in spec.
You can check it here for more info: http://www.gsmarena.com/compare.php3?idPhone1=4967&idPhone2=5204
But the most important features.
Screen:
Lumia 920: HD 1280x768 4.5" 332 ppi
Xperia Z: FULL HD 1920x0180 5" 441 ppi
There is quite a difference between full hd and hd also the ppi are much higher in the XZ, so the pictures/full hd videos will look much crisp on the XZ.
Weight
L920: 185 g (6.53 oz)
XZ: 146 g (5.15 oz)
The L920 is heavy, 40g more than the XZ. You will notice that
Memory / Storage
L920: 1Gb RAM / 32GB No sd-card slot
XZ: 2Gb Ram / 16GB Sd card slot
Ram depends on the OS and the usage. Storage is bigger on the L920 by default but no option to increase the storage.
Bluetooth
L920: 3.2
XZ: 4.0
If you use bluetooth a lot the 4.0 protocol is much reliable.
Camera:
L920: 8 MP, 3264 x 2448 pixels, Carl Zeiss optics, optical image stabilization, autofocus, dual-LED flash
XZ: 13.1 MP, 4128x3096 pixels, autofocus, LED flash
If I'm not wrong, L920 camera is much better in low light condition and in general terms.
OS
L920: Microsoft Windows Phone 8
XZ: Android OS, v4.1.2
Android has much more apps than WP8 in the market, the customization of android is endless (you can access file system, modify the whole rom, kernel) rather than in the wp8 is much more limited.
CPU / GPU
L920: Dual-core 1.5 GHz Krait / Adreno 225
XZ: Quad-core 1.5 GHz Krait /Adreno 320
Depends on OS and usage. Quad-core much faster than Dual-core.
Radio
L920 No
XZ: Stereo FM radio with RDS
If you need Radio FM, it's a no brainer. XZ has it, L920 doesn't. Obviously there is always Internet Radio that works using data mobile.
Battery:
L920: 2000mAh
XZ: 2330mAh
Price (SIM free):
L920: £399 Carphone Warehouse
XZ: £489 Carphone Warehouse
L920 is cheaper
Around the same battery life.
Right, now. Ask yourself this questions.
What are you going to use the phone for?
What is your budget?
Do you use app intensive taks? Playing heavy CPU/GPU intensive games?
Do you find useful the Water/Dust resistance on the XZ, (ie it's protected from rain, failing into water by accident)?
wawyed said:
First of all let's compare both phones in spec.
You can check it here for more info: http://www.gsmarena.com/compare.php3?idPhone1=4967&idPhone2=5204
But the most important features.
Screen:
Lumia 920: HD 1280x768 4.5" 332 ppi
Xperia Z: FULL HD 1920x0180 5" 441 ppi
There is quite a difference between full hd and hd also the ppi are much higher in the XZ, so the pictures/full hd videos will look much crisp on the XZ.
Weight
L920: 185 g (6.53 oz)
XZ: 146 g (5.15 oz)
The L920 is heavy, 40g more than the XZ. You will notice that
Memory / Storage
L920: 1Gb RAM / 32GB No sd-card slot
XZ: 2Gb Ram / 16GB Sd card slot
Ram depends on the OS and the usage. Storage is bigger on the L920 by default but no option to increase the storage.
Bluetooth
L920: 3.2
XZ: 4.0
If you use bluetooth a lot the 4.0 protocol is much reliable.
Camera:
L920: 8 MP, 3264 x 2448 pixels, Carl Zeiss optics, optical image stabilization, autofocus, dual-LED flash
XZ: 13.1 MP, 4128x3096 pixels, autofocus, LED flash
If I'm not wrong, L920 camera is much better in low light condition and in general terms.
OS
L920: Microsoft Windows Phone 8
XZ: Android OS, v4.1.2
Android has much more apps than WP8 in the market, the customization of android is endless (you can access file system, modify the whole rom, kernel) rather than in the wp8 is much more limited.
CPU / GPU
L920: Dual-core 1.5 GHz Krait / Adreno 225
XZ: Quad-core 1.5 GHz Krait /Adreno 320
Depends on OS and usage. Quad-core much faster than Dual-core.
Radio
L920 No
XZ: Stereo FM radio with RDS
If you need Radio FM, it's a no brainer. XZ has it, L920 doesn't. Obviously there is always Internet Radio that works using data mobile.
Battery:
L920: 2000mAh
XZ: 2330mAh
Price (SIM free):
L920: £399 Carphone Warehouse
XZ: £489 Carphone Warehouse
L920 is cheaper
Around the same battery life.
Right, now. Ask yourself this questions.
What are you going to use the phone for?
What is your budget?
Do you use app intensive taks? Playing heavy CPU/GPU intensive games?
Do you find useful the Water/Dust resistance on the XZ, (ie it's protected from rain, failing into water by accident)?
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First of all, let me thank u 4 ur effort
secondly:about screen being Crisp or so...i heard that naked eye cant differentiate between both as if its higher than 300 PPI its almost the same
Iam not keen on gaming or so i will buy it mainly for reading e-books,taking pics and watching vids(not that much even)
About Water resistant....iam from a dry country...No rains for 3-4 years actually so it doesnt matter 4 me
abokorayem said:
First of all, let me thank u 4 ur effort
secondly:about screen being Crisp or so...i heard that naked eye cant differentiate between both as if its higher than 300 PPI its almost the same
Iam not keen on gaming or so i will buy it mainly for reading e-books,taking pics and watching vids(not that much even)
About Water resistant....iam from a dry country...No rains for 3-4 years actually so it doesnt matter 4 me
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Then zl is ur choice compromising the water resistant.. Even ur not gamer better specs still.. Use quad. Xperia z to say..
About the softkeys,theres a mod resizing that to 25 and black and depending what size u want. 48dpi is stock softkeys.. Lot of devlopers on z.
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abokorayem said:
First of all, let me thank u 4 ur effort
secondly:about screen being Crisp or so...i heard that naked eye cant differentiate between both as if its higher than 300 PPI its almost the same
Iam not keen on gaming or so i will buy it mainly for reading e-books,taking pics and watching vids(not that much even)
About Water resistant....iam from a dry country...No rains for 3-4 years actually so it doesnt matter 4 me
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Take into account that appart from the DPI, one is HD (720p) and the other is Full-HD (1080p), there is a difference between them. You will notice it while browsing a website and zooming to read, it will be much sharp in the XZ.
If you are going to read e-book you will find it more easier in a bigger screen, 5" vs 4.5" is quite a difference in screen size.
At the end of the day is a matter of preference, Android vs WP8. Right now I think Android is a better OS in terms of app and support. Also XZ has the technological advantage compared to the L920. For the price of both I would go for the XZ, personally. As someone said before, XZ is more future-proof, a Dual core and 720p is getting obsolete and 1gb ram is quite low imho. If you are not convinced with the XZ, there are other options: Samsung, HTC, LG.
The best thing to do is go to a shop and hold both at the same time, try most of the features and go for the one your guts tells you.
If I helped you, you could press the thanks button
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Take into account that appart from the DPI, one is HD (720p) and the other is Full-HD (1080p), there is a difference between them. You will notice it while browsing a website and zooming to read, it will be much sharp in the XZ.
If you are going to read e-book you will find it more easier in a bigger screen, 5" vs 4.5" is quite a difference in screen size.
At the end of the day is a matter of preference, Android vs WP8. Right now I think Android is a better OS in terms of app and support. Also XZ has the technological advantage compared to the L920. For the price of both I would go for the XZ, personally. As someone said before, XZ is more future-proof, a Dual core and 720p is getting obsolete and 1gb ram is quite low imho. If you are not convinced with the XZ, there are other options: Samsung, HTC, LG.
The best thing to do is go to a shop and hold both at the same time, try most of the features and go for the one your guts tells you.
If I helped you, you could press the thanks button
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already pressed thanks putton ^_^
what do u think of this
LG Optimus G LS970?
so xperia z or LG Optimus G LS970?
abokorayem said:
so xperia z or LG Optimus G LS970?
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After settling for 5 inch phone, I would never go for anything below it. I have seen the Optimus g is person . It's quite nice. If I'm not wrong the specs of Optimus g and xperia z is almost the same s4 pro quad core with 2 gb ram. Except it's not full hd like the xz and at a lower ppi 318 vs xz's 441. And no ip55/57 rating. The screen looks nice but I haven't tried reading on it. I just watch a video playback.
Sent from my Xperia Z
abokorayem said:
so xperia z or LG Optimus G LS970?
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I had them both in my hand , my friend's LG and a co-worker had the Xperia... Personally I ordered the Xperia Z and waiting for it. It's much more solid built and I believe strongly in Sony , not to be the fanboy but ask around and everyone will tell you that LG will never be competion to Sony unless you want to spend less !!!
how can xperia X8 can get JB base rom,, galaxy y cannot ..
alhtought galaxy y can use ics ,,but that many bug cannot resolve .
can someone explain ?
sry my bad english
Xperia X8 has awesome developers. Young does not.
I've heard that there's a rumor that it'll get kitkat update from Samsung though
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There were two versions of samsung galaxy young right?
ryanperez said:
There were two versions of samsung galaxy young right?
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Yup,one is Galaxy Young and one is Galaxy Young Neo,Galaxy Young Neo runs android 4.1.2
is any x8 jb rom are stable much ?
darksora said:
is any x8 jb rom are stable much ?
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No. But some people don't agree..
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If you want to use stock and phone with ****y screen phone. SY is better. If you like custom roms and legendary phone. X8 is better. My friend have SY. And I said to him x8 is much better even x8 is older than SY
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I agree x8 is best because it's Sony.
Sent from my Xperia Z2
lcd: X8's lcd is a little smaller (around 0.2 inches) but it has higher resolution and ppi so pictures are sharp and clear .... about lcd viewing angel just hold the devices and youll understand young is terrible at lcd tests( you can see pic clear only from the front),but x8 is absolutly brilliant at lcd quality. (& viewing angels )
Cpu : x8 comes with a 600mhz armv6vfp processor but young offers 200mhz more clock speed : 800 mhz ,both have the armv6 architecure and are dispointing for gaming and browsing , video playback
Gpu : x8 comes with Adreo 200 gpu but as i remember young doesnt have any graphic proccessing unit
Ram: x8 does have 180 mb of RAM but i think young has 280 mb , so its easier to run heavy games and apps on it (much depends to kernel and rom)
X8 : better lcd , gpu , non-stopable Developers!
Y : better cpu ,bigger lcd ,280 mb of ram
Overall : x8 would be a great phone if it had at least 260 mb of RAM but it doesnt so to be honest all the owners of these two should think about a new device and put these devices in the musium
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