Why the quality of the camera is so bad? - LG Optimus 2x

LG Optimus 2X's camera has 8mp but is a fully crap!!! The camera from LG Optimus black (5mp) Galaxy S2 is way, way better!!!
First-> Photos:
LG 2X:... CRAP!!!! make blurred pictures/ colors are not suitable/brightness is very bad
LG OB:....Not the best, but way more better, clear pictures/ sharp colors/ no problem with the brightness, NO MORE OTHER WORDS IF SGS2 dosen't exist it was the 1st best camera!!!
Galaxy S2: NO WORDS 1ST PRIZE!!!!!
Second-> Videos:
LG 2X:... FULLY CRAP!!!! make blurred videos/ colors are not suitable/brightness is very, very bad/ no auto focus!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!
LG OB:....Best i ever tried on a mobile device, way more better than other Optimus or Galaxy (or others) device, clear videos/ sharp colors/ LG OB:....Not the bes, but way more better, clear pictures/ sharp color/ absolutely no problem with the brightness
Galaxy S2: Never tried
IF U KNOW ANY FIX FOR 2X CAMERA PLZ HELP ME!!! I REALLY NEED THE CAMERA, I TRIED DIFFERENT APPS BUT NO SUCCES, EXEPT LGCamera Pro (more options and settring)

hello i don`t know what is wrong with your or You just don`t know how to do the pictures on your mobile, because i did try camera on my log optimus 2x only on stock rom and i compare to se xperia arc S my whife and for me lg is a way better than se, no matter how you set up camera in same light condition is a lot better lg than se, nice and sharp pictures, colors are better, on poor light pictures on lg looks a lot better not so much "noise" like on se xperia arc S, a lot better lg camera than se, sorry but i did test both and se xperia arc S have no chance with lg optimus 2x camera.

Try taking the back cover off and then testing the camera. Does it make a difference?

Scougar said:
Try taking the back cover off and then testing the camera. Does it make a difference?
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Tnks man!!!! It was the last thing I would have thought =)) it works now, but the video problem with auto focus is still there

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Try taking the back cover off and then testing the camera. Does it make a difference?
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Damn... It really works thanks!
It's actually quite funny, how doing something so simple can make a whole lot of difference...

Honestly not my idea. It was in a thread here a few days ago where someone commented on the difference, and a small discussion about it. Was even a joke about having the glass replaced with optical glass, or simply cutting a hole in the back plate (And then having to keep the lens clean).
BTW.. you can get spare back cover's from ebay and other places cheaply. I'm not sure if the aftermarket 'extended battery covers' have plastic on them, so you may be able to get an extended battery and clear camera shots ;-)
As a side note, within 30 seconds of opening my phone, I got a fingerprint on the side of the case I couldn't get off lol.
Oh, on the 'auto focus' side of things, I did read in a review that once the auto focus is set (from the moment you press record with the LG camera app), it stays at that focus unfortunately. Maybe there is a better camera app that adjusts focus real time, or a way to hack the app?

I noticed that the camera unit has it's own len's anyway, so it's protected, so you could probably safely remove the plastic/glass from the back of the case if you so wished. Your choice obviously.

The difference between a picture taken with the plastic cover, and without it is crazy !

There are LOTS of spare covers on ebay, and 100% genuine available from LG's supplier cheaply Perhaps buy a new cover, and just cut the old plastic out or something if you are into pictures

That's what I'm gonna do, because the difference is worth it !
It's so sharp without it !
The only issue will be dust getting into the phone !

If you want autofocus take a look here:
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=1094424
Remember that to use this CAM MOD you need CM7

I had taken fotos by cm7 camera,o2x official camera and MIUI camera.
The contrast is not remarkable.
THe effects order is official>miui>cm7.

Lol what a nice idea! I have to try that, even im happy with the original. Wont have issues like that.

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The difference between a picture taken with the plastic cover, and without it is crazy !
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I suppose that this is applies only if the cover is full of dust or it is oiled and if it has scratches.

today iv dropped my phone and back cover got a crack. so i thot any way will have to by the new one. so i removed tbe glass from the camera.
this is how it looks.
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lol, not bad

Today I found out something interesting. With lg camcord I went to settings and played a bit. With the ''action mode'' on a 720p video and 20mb bitrate the result came out really really fluid. I also played going out in the light and back in the dark and it was still fluid, no difference in framerates from outside to inside.
I think I'm going to keep it on ''action mode'' 4ever.
( I want autofocus working!!

i think bad quality is because compression. compression in p990 is too high.
if we can abase compression level, we will get better quality.
Known anyone how decrease compress. level?
thanks

Well. I dropped my O2X. The plastic cracked, so i decided to pull out a knife and started making a hole.
Will this be a problem or?

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Well. I dropped my O2X. The plastic cracked, so i decided to pull out a knife and started making a hole.
Will this be a problem or?
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I've just the same, (only cut out neater ) I can tell you that I've got no problem so far.

Related

camera question..

hi there. recently i notice that there are green dotss and blue dotss somewhere on the picture taken from my camera.. does this mean that there are dead pixels?? or my camera become faulty??
is there anywhere to clear all the dots tat are on the picture??
sorry my english is not so good
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i had uploaded a photo that had been taken from my camera..
please have a look, there are lotsa green dots n blue dot somewhere on the picture..
how can i solve this problem??
I've got green and red dots also on my camera. Even had it on my only previous faulty device too.
Apparently I think this happens for everyone's XDA IIi or equivalent device. Is there any experts out there who can explain the cause?
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thats called Sensor Noise! because the photo sensor on mobile devices is so small if you try and take a picture in a dark environment you'll get noise!
try taking a pic in an environment with plenty of light :wink:
if you want a decent picture spend a few $$ on a decent camera
i had try out taking a picture somewhere brighter, but the result still same.. here's the picture i had taken.
by the way, how can i upgrade my xdaIIi's camera to the type of camera u mention ?? upgrade it from o2 service department ??
thankss
You can't upgrade the internal camera, there are no direct replacements. If you look at the Hi-res images I got of the Alpine you'll see the sort of size and shape of camera required and I very much doubt there'll be others the same or similar shape/size. If there are then you need to add the data ribbon to connect it.
Overall go to an Elec store and buy a dedicated camera.
I don't agree. Motorola V3 has a camera as small as XDAIIi and the pictures are awesome. Lenses are a determinant factor in quality. I personaly have a Canon DC20 that takes wonderfull photos but I would like to get better photos with my XDAIIi. Why not get better results wiyh ours devices? Converging functions in one device is helpfull to mobile professionals. BTW, tweaking the camera settings in registry makes the photos much better. See this forum for more information.
tlazymoon said:
i had try out taking a picture somewhere brighter, but the result still same.. here's the picture i had taken.
by the way, how can i upgrade my xdaIIi's camera to the type of camera u mention ?? upgrade it from o2 service department ??
thankss
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I think that there is no problem on your camara. note that if you want to have a good picture you must chose the best index light in setting of the camara for example; ambience: night or flourescent... and the cature mode, cature size..
tlazymoon said:
i had try out taking a picture somewhere brighter, but the result still same.. here's the picture i had taken.
by the way, how can i upgrade my xdaIIi's camera to the type of camera u mention ?? upgrade it from o2 service department ??
thankss
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The camera isnt that good but you are never going to get great pics from a lens that size and indoor pics are always going to be grainy without a flash tho you should be getting better pics than those you have so far
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Do a search for AtekSoft's CoolCamera. It allows quite a few more options than the default. There may be better camera replacement software out there, but I havn't found it yet.
Ateksoft is the one most Cooooooooool Camera software.....
From what I understand, O2 included a camera 'upgrade' in their extrom (which installs whenever you hard reset), which actually makes the camera quality WORSE. I've not tested it myself, as I'm quite happy with my phone setup as it is and really don't want to hard reset AGAIN, but some users report that flashing their device with the firmware which doesn't include this camera upgrade makes their camera quality better.
Also, you have to bear in mind that pretty much all cameras use cheap and nasty CMOS sensor technology (what low-quality webcams use) - the resolution and light sensitivity of CMOS technology is REALLY poor compared to CCD, but CCD tech is much more expensive and sucks up more battery power (hence CMOS technology being more widespread in the mobile industry).
Better quality cameras are starting to appear, and the quality of the k750i camera continues to astound me when I see my friends' photos. It won't be long though, I remember seeing articles about lenses made with a tiny suspension of water inbetween two nanometre-thick layers of plastic, to which an electric current could be applied to make the water change shape, acting as an optical lens... This kind of technology will drastically increase the quality and cost-effectiveness of higher-end portable, miniature camera technology, and I can't wait until it becomes widespread.

Camera Photo Taking - Quality is bad

Hi fellows,
Anyone can elighten me here? when i use the camera and take a photo, when I go and view the photo, it is not the same quality I saw on the display, for some reason when the photo is saved, it is smudge, anyone encounter a similar situation? This happen more when photo is taken at night, it seems that the saving process damages the quality of the photo
Any feedback welcome
Thanks
First of all, appreciate that the size of the lens of the camera is so small, not so much light is going through it. So, especially at night, it will be hard to get nice pictures. This is not a camera with a phone, it is a phone with a camera!
Another issue is when you press the shutter release - squeezing your finger shakes the camera a bit, and this is something many camera users have to bear with. One idea is to use the timer for this instance, and place the Kaiser somewhere steady. Also, be aware that from the time you press the shutter release until it takes the picture does take longer than many dedicated cameras, so when you are doing your best to hold your camera still, be sure to do it long enough. I did that same error in the beginning, moving the camera even before it had taken the picture. Just keep it still for another second before you do anything else.
Poor Lighting
Overall I must say that I am very satisfied with the quality of the camera on my Tilt. However, this camera does seem to be more sensitive to poor lighting conditions than my 8125 was. This could either be caused by the absence of a flash or that the camera lens is 3MP instead of 1.3, and for that reason, picks up more flaws.
Any pictures I take outdoors with my Tilt turn out great. Actually the video recording is pretty damn good too. Indoors pictures tend to pickup a lot of "color noise" (Red, Green, Blue specs in the image) when taken.
I don't know which model phone you upgraded from, but another difference between the camera on the 8125 and the Tilt is that we now have an auto-focus lens, and that increases the time required to capture the image.
In the end, I am very satisfied with the camera on my Tilt, but as usual these comments based on my experiences only.
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Overall I must say that I am very satisfied with the quality of the camera on my Tilt. However, this camera does seem to be more sensitive to poor lighting conditions than my 8125 was. This could either be caused by the absence of a flash or that the camera lens is 3MP instead of 1.3, and for that reason, picks up more flaws.
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I've taken photos in bright sunlight outside and still gotten grainy/noisy photos, so I agree the camera is worse than the Hermes/8525 even w/o flash.
Richard
I think the camera is GREAT for a cell phone camera.
Here is a picture taken with my camera the other day. To me, it looks very good for what it is.
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grizzley said:
Here is a picture taken with my camera the other day. To me, it looks very good for what it is.
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See, that's what we're talking about - look at the sky?!?!?!?!? Yeah, cell phones are crappy cameras but WTF is that? Your subject shows it a little on things like the tree trunk, etc, but it's horrible artifacting
Richard
It's a cell phone... I was drinking.... It's only 3MP.
As far as I am concerned, it's a good camera. We are the newest owners of the latest technology that still needs to be fine tuned. How many other cell phones have 3MP cameras?
I think the camera is very good... MUCH better than many other phones I've seen......
Take a look at this samples with my kaiser..
http://personales.ya.com/aliste/kaiser/pruebas1.zip
Set the quality to finest, and be quiet when you take the photo..
so, I see that you like basic batteries, you have rusted keys, need more duct tape and like boring books. You can find a mate at match.com
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so, I see that you like basic batteries, you have rusted keys, need more duct tape and like boring books. You can find a mate at match.com
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that's not completely true... ;-)
I was simply trying macro capabilities
But take a look to this other samples (landscapes)... remember this is not a canon EOS, but it is a great camera for a mobile phone!
http://personales.ya.com/aliste/kaiser/pruebas2.zip
I think the tilt takes damn good pictures for a camera phone, but video recording is better on the 8525!
grizzley said:
I think the camera is GREAT for a cell phone camera.
Here is a picture taken with my camera the other day. To me, it looks very good for what it is.
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Although only 2MP, the Hermes has a better camera. Here's one sample:
Yea, I think you are correct... not too bad for 2MP!
I think the best setting for the camera to take good pictures is @ 1600X1200, with quality set to fine.
Here are some of my pics:
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Yea, I think you are correct... not too bad for 2MP!
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Yep, so coming from that to the Kaiser hurts. There's a lot more to a camera than Megapixels! Hopefully these Kaiser issues can be fixed either in firmware or with camera settings.... I just noticed the Adjustment page has Sharpness set at +3, I wonder if the minimum (+1) would provide better results?
Richard
Anyone who thinks the pictures taken by the 3.2MP camera on the Tytn II is even half decent has got rocks in there head. Take a look at some pictures taken with Sony Ericsons phones.
http://flickr.com/cameras/sonyericsson/
Nice landscape on a 3.2MP k800i
See what a good 2MP can do.(k750i/w800i)
I miss my k800i I lost that has now been replaced with a TytnII. The TytnII does a lot of great things the k800i did not but taken pictures is where the TytnII falls drastically short of the k800i and other SE phones.
The video is terrible. The 8525 camera was way better. When I try to record everything looks sluggish.
i can almost assure you guys that when coolcamera will support the kaiser we will see a big improvement.
were those 8525 pictures taken with coolcamera?
o and here's my sample pics on modaco:
http://www.modaco.com/content/Pocke...n/260817/Sample-Pics-of-the-ATT-Tilt-Kaiser-/
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i can almost assure you guys that when coolcamera will support the kaiser we will see a big improvement.
were those 8525 pictures taken with coolcamera?
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Mine were not - I didn't see any reason to pay for another camera app on my Hermes.... if it really cleans up the Kaiser images, I could be convinced otherwise
Richard
rsolomon said:
I just noticed the Adjustment page has Sharpness set at +3, I wonder if the minimum (+1) would provide better results?
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This is the well-known adjustment on the Hermes camera that makes the difference between sh*tty and good photos. And in older Hermes ROMs, this setting is not saved so you have to adjust it everytime you start the camera. I use the lowest Sharpness setting also on my TyTN II but unfortunately it doesn't give the same improvement as on the Hermes, just a little better.

Problem with camera lens

My problem is in the camera lens, the special treatment fades...
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I don't know if SE can't fix it in guarantee.
My pictures quality is affect, juste see the pictures :
2 exemple before :
2 exemple after :
My pictures are fuzzy and too "grey".
I have send a e-mail toi SE, no answer.
I call in this week...
If you have the same probleme, and if the quality is affect... Thanks
So I'm sure now that's impossible to take again this type of pictures... :
Pardon me but I don't see any problem with the "after" pictures.
Half of my coating was off just after 4 days (or less, I noticed it only on the forth day), so I did not get a chance to take "before" shots.
Still, do you remember doing anything to your phone to cause it to be like it. Was it always like this?
i have your same problem, also i take much care on it!
sry i m italian..
What do you use to clean your phone? Or do you not clean it at all?
My lens is also so...But i must say i dont know how it get so...Maybe it come so in purchase...Very bad lens i must say...
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What do you use to clean your phone? Or do you not clean it at all?
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I use the same product to clean glasses...
ANd my x1 are always protected....
:/
Got exactly the same problem. It has annoyed me for a long time and makes my camera useless. I have been thinking of sending the phone in, but I dont like to be without my phone for several weeks, besides, how many days will it tike before the problem reappears? unless they are aware of the problem, and have a fix for it. And as everybody else, I take very good care of the phone
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My problem is in the camera lens, the special treatment fades...
I don't know if SE can't fix it in guarantee.
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i noticed the same thing yesterday on my xperia,
however i believed its sort of moisture left behind the lens,after my little son pee on my x1,i rubbed it instantly,just after that i realised camera was not upto the mark,i still strongly believe its the reason,
else u notice one thing,
only the circle has those scratch like look,and not that whole hexagon shape,only the cirle
so if it scrathed why doesnt the rest..!
hopefully its just moisture and goes away with time,..
...i have the same problem too...
picture in daylight have a kind of "dreamy filter"!!!
By nigth have no big problem!
...sorry double post
lol dreamy fliter
it is actually moisture,i'm 99% sure atm,
it must have gone like that,when we cleaned lens with some fluids,
for me as i said my 4 month son pee on it
as my camera view & shots are much better now,however not as it was yet,
i gave it direct sunlight for 2-3mins 5-6 times in patches and kept rubbing it with soft cotton to give it some warmth,
i assume in 2-3 days it will be all better
To me it looks like it is some kind of filter that is getting worn down. My lense has become less resistant to direct light giving the picture an halo/dreamy look with lots of lens flares
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i noticed the same thing yesterday on my xperia,
however i believed its sort of moisture left behind the lens,after my little son pee on my x1,i rubbed it instantly,just after that i realised camera was not upto the mark,i still strongly believe its the reason,
else u notice one thing,
only the circle has those scratch like look,and not that whole hexagon shape,only the cirle
so if it scrathed why doesnt the rest..!
hopefully its just moisture and goes away with time,..
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He pee'd on your x1
Haha
U know what? i had mine for about 2 or 3 months now, and im very watchful of it. I notice my lens is starting to have those little marks too. Before it gets worse, i quickly bought a screen guard and just put it over the lens.
Problem solved
My lens instead has a sort of scratch... But I can't imagine I'm responsible for that, I took good care of my X1... Anyone has this problem too? Fortunately I can't make it out on pictures (yet).
But the those scratches are inside, not outside...for me is a construction problem of the lens! I don't like so much that false "dreamy filter" but, now i have and i have no money to change...hurra!!!!!
I've got the same kind of "foggy scratches" on the lens. The pictures seems to be out of focus and like using a soft filter. I compare the pictures taken in the beginnig and there is a big difference...
Hello, I´ve "had" the same problem. ( Im German, sorry about my english ).
As is noticed that Problem, I send my X1 back to Sony to repair. Then i got it back and the lens was okay.
Then after 2 Weeks i´ve got the same Problem again. I made Pictures from the lens, an pictures with the X1.
BUT : i have rub with the fingernail over the lens very hard. And wow : the lens is now 99% clear again. I don´t know where the dirt came from, and what it was ..... but now it´s gone....confused case.....
Here my pictures :
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Got exactly the same problem as in the first post and picture. I like to ride my bike and yeah I swet a lot during that LOL And I noticed recently that the pictures are "foggy". So I asked in our repair centre and they said it's actualy my problem. The same will hapen to your ordinary camera lens, if it comes to contact with sweat or saltwater. Also fingerprints are chemicaly agressive. If you leave it like this for a week or so, it'll gets more difficult to remove.
How did I fix this:
Basicaly, there are two ways. One is to get smooth finger file. Really smooth one. But if you don't take enough smooth one, you'll damage the lens.
So the other way is to take a tissue or old t-shirt and just clean the lens for few minutes. I tried and after 15 minutes it was gone and pictures are same as before - crappy but not foggy LOL
It's because the lens has same special layer as on digicams. Try to touch the digicam lens, leave it like that for a week or so, and you'll see
edit: it has nothing to do with scratches on your lens. I do have scratches as well, but it'll look different in the picture. The problem described here is simply what I wrote above - sweat and/or fingerprints

how to eliminate the "mist " problem in 2x Camera

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http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=jSOoubjP9U4
any apps or can us adjust the camera firmware?
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any apps or can us adjust the camera firmware?
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Heard that it's mainly the presets that mess up the image. At least with pictures, manual settings prove to make way better pictures. So do your own whitebalance, lower the brightness a bit.
Indeed heared the same thing. On an other forum someone posted 2 pictures 1 with the auto settings and 1 with manual settings and you really saw the huge different in quaility.
I have attachted the 2 pictures in quesiton. You can see the difference for yourself.
the difference on these two pictures could also be, that on manual setting the sun is behind (southeast) him and on auto setting the sun is infront (northeast) of him. It would be better if we get some pictures taken in a row.
Interesting stuff. Would love to see some more comparison shots, as the poor reviews for the camera is one of the things putting me off this phone.
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the difference on these two pictures could also be, that on manual setting the sun is behind (southeast) him and on auto setting the sun is infront (northeast) of him. It would be better if we get some pictures taken in a row.
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Indeed but when you look at the shadow of the car you see it moved a bit. But the rest of the picture is way better i'll try to do some tests of my own tommorow afternoon.
You could try Vignette, it's in the market. Camera app replacement. There is a free demo available
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@ all the owners:
Could you please test the camera with photos and videos and finally clarify once forever these ''mist problems'' ?
Just if its possible to fix with some software adjustments or its an hardware problem...
Thanks
Ah... yeah I really hate that "mist-effect" too. It's the main reason why I'm considering Not buying the 2X and wait for 3D and hope that they've fixed that issue...
I read a review on phonearena.com and they showed a colorfilter called "vivid" which increased the contrast quite alot. That fixed the "mist" problem but then I think the contrast is a bit too high there. But definitely MUCH better.
Anyone know if it's possible to adjust the contrast in the cam app?
Lumix90 said:
Ah... yeah I really hate that "mist-effect" too. It's the main reason why I'm considering Not buying the 2X and wait for 3D and hope that they've fixed that issue...
I read a review on phonearena.com and they showed a colorfilter called "vivid" which increased the contrast quite alot. That fixed the "mist" problem but then I think the contrast is a bit too high there. But definitely MUCH better.
Anyone know if it's possible to adjust the contrast in the cam app?
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I've seen some pics taken with the 3D, also has the same problemm
LG know there's an issue with the auto settings. And as you can see, if you set it up manually the pictures are just fine. So just wait for a small update, and the issue will be fixed....No biggie really, and defo not HW related.
Pitbull09 said:
the difference on these two pictures could also be, that on manual setting the sun is behind (southeast) him and on auto setting the sun is infront (northeast) of him. It would be better if we get some pictures taken in a row.
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I took the pictures, so let me nip that in the bud.
The pictures were taken in north eastern direction and indeed there is some difference in time when I took them (1st auto settings: 13:00 and 2nd manual setting 14:30). But there was no sunlight directly in the lens and I used my hand to drop a shadow. Before I took both photos I cleaned the lens cover thoroughly.
As supported by other users: the automatic settings tend to overexpose and the automatic white balance is just miles off. I am sure LG will fix this in a future update and otherwise I'll just keep setting it up manually as I do with my dslr.
MLMNewBreed said:
otherwise I'll just keep setting it up manually as I do with my dslr.
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can you tell us which settings you changed and to what you changed it?
because from my opinion it does make a good improvement to the auto settings.
thx in advance
To make photo quality better and less blurred - just turn "Stabilization" - "Off".
But it's make sense only for photo mode, video still no solution.
mikeymika said:
can you tell us which settings you changed and to what you changed it?
because from my opinion it does make a good improvement to the auto settings.
thx in advance
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I didn't do more than change the white balance to "sunlight" and underexpose two stops. The under/over -expose function is the "+/-" -sign in the first menu when you press the screen in camera mode. Under exposing is only recommended on a bright day. The biggest improvment is the whitebalance, stay away from the "automatic" -setting.
I am very impressed by all the camera setup options on this phone!
And what about the video? Are they fine?
Hi
I have ordered the 2x and uses a Desire now.
It had the same problem initially.
After first removing the grease (from production) on the lens and on the backside of the protective plastic, the pictures was fully useable.
Later on I removed the easy scratched protective plastic altogether and problem solved.
runeo said:
Hi
I have ordered the 2x and uses a Desire now.
It had the same problem initially.
After first removing the grease (from production) on the lens and on the backside of the protective plastic, the pictures was fully useable.
Later on I removed the easy scratched protective plastic altogether and problem solved.
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Can it be removed easily?
Miracle1980 said:
And what about the video? Are they fine?
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I haven't tried out video yet, but it uses the same setup options. So my guess is that video suffers from the same issues with automatic white balance.
morckx said:
Can it be removed easily?
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If I understand the post correctly, he was refering to the HTC Desire.
MLMNewBreed said:
If I understand the post correctly, he was refering to the HTC Desire.
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Just try to clean the lens to begin with, and inspect the protection!

Flash is ruining my photographs at night!!

Have tried the stock camera app and VSCOCAM as well - but still the flash is ruining my photographs. Haven't got a case on the phone when taking these images and to be honest... it's annoying as hell! Tried it with my girlfriends black Z1 as mine is white - and hers does the same...!
So, I assume that the flash is interfering with what the sensor is picking up, in which case... the phone isn't fit for purpose..?
Examples are being uploaded
Without flash
2013-12-15 04.54.11 1 by wezzel98765, on Flickr
With Flash
2013-12-15 04.53.54 1 by wezzel98765, on Flickr
wezzel98765 said:
Have tried the stock camera app and VSCOCAM as well - but still the flash is ruining my photographs. Haven't got a case on the phone when taking these images and to be honest... it's annoying as hell! Tried it with my girlfriends black Z1 as mine is white - and hers does the same...!
So, I assume that the flash is interfering with what the sensor is picking up, in which case... the phone isn't fit for purpose..?
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Well, turn it off then..?
B1nny said:
Well, turn it off then..?
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Bit of a smart ass response
Yes it's okay to turn it off, but what if the lighting is bad and I want to take a photo?
wezzel98765 said:
Bit of a smart ass response
Yes it's okay to turn it off, but what if the lighting is bad and I want to take a photo?
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Well it's fairly simple, flash pretty much always ruins a photo. Only use it if you really have to. Other than that, superior auto does a fairly decent job and if that doesn't quite cut it for you, you can try manual mode.
Other than that there isn't a whole lot more that we can do. Remember it's still a phone and not a DSLR. Low-light photography relies mostly on the lens that's fitted on the camera as far as I know. (correct me if I'm wrong) Due to the amount of light a real lens can capture and a smartphone lens simply can't.
Also the photo's you've taken maybe aren't that good of an example, the image without flash looks fine to me. I don't know what you're expecting to capture there, but if you want to show off the back of your car, it's perfectly fine.
PS. if that's your car, you may want to blur out the numberplate.
I had exactly the same problem with my Z, and i as well heard some people with Z1 had this problem too.
What u should do is to clean your lens and flash well and try it again to make some pictures.
Try it and respond here with what happend.
Thanks for the advice etc
Just wanted to test camera during darkness because I am going on holiday soon and want to know whether to buy a camera or if my phone will cut it enough for what I need it to do
It's one of many of my dad's imprezas... it's got pics of it many places on the web so it doesn't matter
The car was lit from behind me by an outdoor flood light so that's why I could capture it. I was just shocked that the ghosting on the right side of the image happened. Surely this means that the flash is completely unusable as it interferes with half of the image?
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I was just shocked that the ghosting on the right side of the image happened. Surely this means that the flash is completely unusable as it interferes with half of the image?
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Yes, is unusable but if you switch the flash to torch when you make a picture you will see some improvement, same here, and you want to know why? They put the flash to close to the lens.
Just clean your lens and flash area well and it will help... That's how i fixed that problem.
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Yes, is unusable but if you switch the flash to torch when you make a picture you will see some improvement, same here, and you want to know why? They put the flash to close to the lens.
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Yes I thought as much... in which case... this means the device is faulty... as it's not useable in combination with flash at night?
an unrectifiable device design
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. in which case... this means the device is faulty... as it's not useable in combination with flash at night?
an unrectifiable device design
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The reasons can be many but for sure if they will made the phone with a flash more distanced from the lens we will not have this issue and in this case is like you said, an unrectifiable device design but is not faulty. You can get improvements by settings the flash sincronizations because I do not understand yet, why if I switch the torch on when I do the pictures at night they come out a little better than a picture with automatic flash. So here between this settings is something not right and that why you. like me too and others, do have this problem making pictures with flash. I will test again few things to be sure and I will post my opinion but now I am 100% sure if the flash will not be so close to the lens we will have less of this brightness in the pictures.
Taken two more images... much better!
Gave the entire rear of my phone a wipe. It may be because I run a fish and chip shop and grease may have covered the back a little bit?
Either way, it seems this issue may have been caused due to dirt that isn't visible...?
WITHOUT flash
Without flash by wezzel98765, on Flickr
WITH FLASH
With flash by wezzel98765, on Flickr
So you solved the problem, lucky you! I can clean how much I want but when I do the pictures I got always, more or less, the brightness in the pictures at night. I keep testing.
I'll have to test again at original location I took first pictures to see if it happens again.
Will just have to wait and see.. But so far so good
try putting a piece of white masking tape or white electrical tape over the flash. this should diffuse the light so it's not 'harsh'.
i have same issue and more worse also please remove back cover of your mobile becuse if you use flash it reflect try to remove and make foto
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i have same issue and more worse also please remove back cover of your mobile because if you use flash it reflect try to remove and make foto
i have other issue also that i get horizontal line in my picture due to effect of the light in the Street
any body can help me to solve this issue please
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I am having the same issue with Z3. Mine even worse. I tried many things to fix. But I noticed the problem came to me after the first OTA update. Now my flash is only for torch.

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