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camera question..

hi there. recently i notice that there are green dotss and blue dotss somewhere on the picture taken from my camera.. does this mean that there are dead pixels?? or my camera become faulty??
is there anywhere to clear all the dots tat are on the picture??
sorry my english is not so good
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i had uploaded a photo that had been taken from my camera..
please have a look, there are lotsa green dots n blue dot somewhere on the picture..
how can i solve this problem??

I've got green and red dots also on my camera. Even had it on my only previous faulty device too.

Apparently I think this happens for everyone's XDA IIi or equivalent device. Is there any experts out there who can explain the cause?

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thats called Sensor Noise! because the photo sensor on mobile devices is so small if you try and take a picture in a dark environment you'll get noise!
try taking a pic in an environment with plenty of light :wink:
if you want a decent picture spend a few $$ on a decent camera

i had try out taking a picture somewhere brighter, but the result still same.. here's the picture i had taken.
by the way, how can i upgrade my xdaIIi's camera to the type of camera u mention ?? upgrade it from o2 service department ??
thankss

You can't upgrade the internal camera, there are no direct replacements. If you look at the Hi-res images I got of the Alpine you'll see the sort of size and shape of camera required and I very much doubt there'll be others the same or similar shape/size. If there are then you need to add the data ribbon to connect it.
Overall go to an Elec store and buy a dedicated camera.

I don't agree. Motorola V3 has a camera as small as XDAIIi and the pictures are awesome. Lenses are a determinant factor in quality. I personaly have a Canon DC20 that takes wonderfull photos but I would like to get better photos with my XDAIIi. Why not get better results wiyh ours devices? Converging functions in one device is helpfull to mobile professionals. BTW, tweaking the camera settings in registry makes the photos much better. See this forum for more information.

tlazymoon said:
i had try out taking a picture somewhere brighter, but the result still same.. here's the picture i had taken.
by the way, how can i upgrade my xdaIIi's camera to the type of camera u mention ?? upgrade it from o2 service department ??
thankss
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I think that there is no problem on your camara. note that if you want to have a good picture you must chose the best index light in setting of the camara for example; ambience: night or flourescent... and the cature mode, cature size..

tlazymoon said:
i had try out taking a picture somewhere brighter, but the result still same.. here's the picture i had taken.
by the way, how can i upgrade my xdaIIi's camera to the type of camera u mention ?? upgrade it from o2 service department ??
thankss
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The camera isnt that good but you are never going to get great pics from a lens that size and indoor pics are always going to be grainy without a flash tho you should be getting better pics than those you have so far
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Do a search for AtekSoft's CoolCamera. It allows quite a few more options than the default. There may be better camera replacement software out there, but I havn't found it yet.

Ateksoft is the one most Cooooooooool Camera software.....

From what I understand, O2 included a camera 'upgrade' in their extrom (which installs whenever you hard reset), which actually makes the camera quality WORSE. I've not tested it myself, as I'm quite happy with my phone setup as it is and really don't want to hard reset AGAIN, but some users report that flashing their device with the firmware which doesn't include this camera upgrade makes their camera quality better.
Also, you have to bear in mind that pretty much all cameras use cheap and nasty CMOS sensor technology (what low-quality webcams use) - the resolution and light sensitivity of CMOS technology is REALLY poor compared to CCD, but CCD tech is much more expensive and sucks up more battery power (hence CMOS technology being more widespread in the mobile industry).
Better quality cameras are starting to appear, and the quality of the k750i camera continues to astound me when I see my friends' photos. It won't be long though, I remember seeing articles about lenses made with a tiny suspension of water inbetween two nanometre-thick layers of plastic, to which an electric current could be applied to make the water change shape, acting as an optical lens... This kind of technology will drastically increase the quality and cost-effectiveness of higher-end portable, miniature camera technology, and I can't wait until it becomes widespread.

Problem with camera lens

My problem is in the camera lens, the special treatment fades...
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I don't know if SE can't fix it in guarantee.
My pictures quality is affect, juste see the pictures :
2 exemple before :
2 exemple after :
My pictures are fuzzy and too "grey".
I have send a e-mail toi SE, no answer.
I call in this week...
If you have the same probleme, and if the quality is affect... Thanks
So I'm sure now that's impossible to take again this type of pictures... :

Pardon me but I don't see any problem with the "after" pictures.
Half of my coating was off just after 4 days (or less, I noticed it only on the forth day), so I did not get a chance to take "before" shots.
Still, do you remember doing anything to your phone to cause it to be like it. Was it always like this?

i have your same problem, also i take much care on it!
sry i m italian..

What do you use to clean your phone? Or do you not clean it at all?

My lens is also so...But i must say i dont know how it get so...Maybe it come so in purchase...Very bad lens i must say...

williamn said:
What do you use to clean your phone? Or do you not clean it at all?
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I use the same product to clean glasses...
ANd my x1 are always protected....
:/

Got exactly the same problem. It has annoyed me for a long time and makes my camera useless. I have been thinking of sending the phone in, but I dont like to be without my phone for several weeks, besides, how many days will it tike before the problem reappears? unless they are aware of the problem, and have a fix for it. And as everybody else, I take very good care of the phone

clecle69000 said:
My problem is in the camera lens, the special treatment fades...
I don't know if SE can't fix it in guarantee.
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i noticed the same thing yesterday on my xperia,
however i believed its sort of moisture left behind the lens,after my little son pee on my x1,i rubbed it instantly,just after that i realised camera was not upto the mark,i still strongly believe its the reason,
else u notice one thing,
only the circle has those scratch like look,and not that whole hexagon shape,only the cirle
so if it scrathed why doesnt the rest..!
hopefully its just moisture and goes away with time,..

...i have the same problem too...
picture in daylight have a kind of "dreamy filter"!!!
By nigth have no big problem!

...sorry double post

lol dreamy fliter

it is actually moisture,i'm 99% sure atm,
it must have gone like that,when we cleaned lens with some fluids,
for me as i said my 4 month son pee on it
as my camera view & shots are much better now,however not as it was yet,
i gave it direct sunlight for 2-3mins 5-6 times in patches and kept rubbing it with soft cotton to give it some warmth,
i assume in 2-3 days it will be all better

To me it looks like it is some kind of filter that is getting worn down. My lense has become less resistant to direct light giving the picture an halo/dreamy look with lots of lens flares

Parano!d said:
i noticed the same thing yesterday on my xperia,
however i believed its sort of moisture left behind the lens,after my little son pee on my x1,i rubbed it instantly,just after that i realised camera was not upto the mark,i still strongly believe its the reason,
else u notice one thing,
only the circle has those scratch like look,and not that whole hexagon shape,only the cirle
so if it scrathed why doesnt the rest..!
hopefully its just moisture and goes away with time,..
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He pee'd on your x1
Haha

U know what? i had mine for about 2 or 3 months now, and im very watchful of it. I notice my lens is starting to have those little marks too. Before it gets worse, i quickly bought a screen guard and just put it over the lens.
Problem solved

My lens instead has a sort of scratch... But I can't imagine I'm responsible for that, I took good care of my X1... Anyone has this problem too? Fortunately I can't make it out on pictures (yet).

But the those scratches are inside, not outside...for me is a construction problem of the lens! I don't like so much that false "dreamy filter" but, now i have and i have no money to change...hurra!!!!!

I've got the same kind of "foggy scratches" on the lens. The pictures seems to be out of focus and like using a soft filter. I compare the pictures taken in the beginnig and there is a big difference...

Hello, I´ve "had" the same problem. ( Im German, sorry about my english ).
As is noticed that Problem, I send my X1 back to Sony to repair. Then i got it back and the lens was okay.
Then after 2 Weeks i´ve got the same Problem again. I made Pictures from the lens, an pictures with the X1.
BUT : i have rub with the fingernail over the lens very hard. And wow : the lens is now 99% clear again. I don´t know where the dirt came from, and what it was ..... but now it´s gone....confused case.....
Here my pictures :
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Got exactly the same problem as in the first post and picture. I like to ride my bike and yeah I swet a lot during that LOL And I noticed recently that the pictures are "foggy". So I asked in our repair centre and they said it's actualy my problem. The same will hapen to your ordinary camera lens, if it comes to contact with sweat or saltwater. Also fingerprints are chemicaly agressive. If you leave it like this for a week or so, it'll gets more difficult to remove.
How did I fix this:
Basicaly, there are two ways. One is to get smooth finger file. Really smooth one. But if you don't take enough smooth one, you'll damage the lens.
So the other way is to take a tissue or old t-shirt and just clean the lens for few minutes. I tried and after 15 minutes it was gone and pictures are same as before - crappy but not foggy LOL
It's because the lens has same special layer as on digicams. Try to touch the digicam lens, leave it like that for a week or so, and you'll see
edit: it has nothing to do with scratches on your lens. I do have scratches as well, but it'll look different in the picture. The problem described here is simply what I wrote above - sweat and/or fingerprints

how to eliminate the "mist " problem in 2x Camera

http://translate.googleusercontent.com/translate_c?hl=zh-TW&ie=UTF-8&sl=it&tl=en&u=http://android.hdblog.it/2011/03/08/lg-optimus-dual-alcuni-scatti-fotografici/&rurl=translate.google.com.hk&usg=ALkJrhjc-XywZbOeXO4HggKxS43tXINB9Q
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http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=jSOoubjP9U4
any apps or can us adjust the camera firmware?

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any apps or can us adjust the camera firmware?
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Heard that it's mainly the presets that mess up the image. At least with pictures, manual settings prove to make way better pictures. So do your own whitebalance, lower the brightness a bit.

Indeed heared the same thing. On an other forum someone posted 2 pictures 1 with the auto settings and 1 with manual settings and you really saw the huge different in quaility.
I have attachted the 2 pictures in quesiton. You can see the difference for yourself.

the difference on these two pictures could also be, that on manual setting the sun is behind (southeast) him and on auto setting the sun is infront (northeast) of him. It would be better if we get some pictures taken in a row.

Interesting stuff. Would love to see some more comparison shots, as the poor reviews for the camera is one of the things putting me off this phone.

Pitbull09 said:
the difference on these two pictures could also be, that on manual setting the sun is behind (southeast) him and on auto setting the sun is infront (northeast) of him. It would be better if we get some pictures taken in a row.
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Indeed but when you look at the shadow of the car you see it moved a bit. But the rest of the picture is way better i'll try to do some tests of my own tommorow afternoon.

You could try Vignette, it's in the market. Camera app replacement. There is a free demo available
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@ all the owners:
Could you please test the camera with photos and videos and finally clarify once forever these ''mist problems'' ?
Just if its possible to fix with some software adjustments or its an hardware problem...
Thanks

Ah... yeah I really hate that "mist-effect" too. It's the main reason why I'm considering Not buying the 2X and wait for 3D and hope that they've fixed that issue...
I read a review on phonearena.com and they showed a colorfilter called "vivid" which increased the contrast quite alot. That fixed the "mist" problem but then I think the contrast is a bit too high there. But definitely MUCH better.
Anyone know if it's possible to adjust the contrast in the cam app?

Lumix90 said:
Ah... yeah I really hate that "mist-effect" too. It's the main reason why I'm considering Not buying the 2X and wait for 3D and hope that they've fixed that issue...
I read a review on phonearena.com and they showed a colorfilter called "vivid" which increased the contrast quite alot. That fixed the "mist" problem but then I think the contrast is a bit too high there. But definitely MUCH better.
Anyone know if it's possible to adjust the contrast in the cam app?
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I've seen some pics taken with the 3D, also has the same problemm

LG know there's an issue with the auto settings. And as you can see, if you set it up manually the pictures are just fine. So just wait for a small update, and the issue will be fixed....No biggie really, and defo not HW related.

Pitbull09 said:
the difference on these two pictures could also be, that on manual setting the sun is behind (southeast) him and on auto setting the sun is infront (northeast) of him. It would be better if we get some pictures taken in a row.
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I took the pictures, so let me nip that in the bud.
The pictures were taken in north eastern direction and indeed there is some difference in time when I took them (1st auto settings: 13:00 and 2nd manual setting 14:30). But there was no sunlight directly in the lens and I used my hand to drop a shadow. Before I took both photos I cleaned the lens cover thoroughly.
As supported by other users: the automatic settings tend to overexpose and the automatic white balance is just miles off. I am sure LG will fix this in a future update and otherwise I'll just keep setting it up manually as I do with my dslr.

MLMNewBreed said:
otherwise I'll just keep setting it up manually as I do with my dslr.
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can you tell us which settings you changed and to what you changed it?
because from my opinion it does make a good improvement to the auto settings.
thx in advance

To make photo quality better and less blurred - just turn "Stabilization" - "Off".
But it's make sense only for photo mode, video still no solution.

mikeymika said:
can you tell us which settings you changed and to what you changed it?
because from my opinion it does make a good improvement to the auto settings.
thx in advance
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I didn't do more than change the white balance to "sunlight" and underexpose two stops. The under/over -expose function is the "+/-" -sign in the first menu when you press the screen in camera mode. Under exposing is only recommended on a bright day. The biggest improvment is the whitebalance, stay away from the "automatic" -setting.
I am very impressed by all the camera setup options on this phone!

And what about the video? Are they fine?

Hi
I have ordered the 2x and uses a Desire now.
It had the same problem initially.
After first removing the grease (from production) on the lens and on the backside of the protective plastic, the pictures was fully useable.
Later on I removed the easy scratched protective plastic altogether and problem solved.

runeo said:
Hi
I have ordered the 2x and uses a Desire now.
It had the same problem initially.
After first removing the grease (from production) on the lens and on the backside of the protective plastic, the pictures was fully useable.
Later on I removed the easy scratched protective plastic altogether and problem solved.
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Can it be removed easily?

Miracle1980 said:
And what about the video? Are they fine?
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I haven't tried out video yet, but it uses the same setup options. So my guess is that video suffers from the same issues with automatic white balance.
morckx said:
Can it be removed easily?
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If I understand the post correctly, he was refering to the HTC Desire.

MLMNewBreed said:
If I understand the post correctly, he was refering to the HTC Desire.
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Just try to clean the lens to begin with, and inspect the protection!

Black dots camera

Hello,
I got a problem. When I take a picture there are black dots on my screen, on every photo it's on the same place.
But when i shoot a video, there are no black dots..
I really don't know how this is possible. I tried other camera apps, and also have this problem..
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I had the same problem strange black spots. Bring your phone back to your carrier or the shop.
Maybe they can fix it otherwise a new phone.
I got a new phone.
Verstuurd van mijn C5303

I have a question.
Does your power button seemed to sit crooked in to the bulb where the powerbutton is placed in? This was something that annoyed me in my previous SP.
Verstuurd van mijn C5303

Try cleaning tour camera lens with microfiber cloth, that blue protection sticker left some adhesive on my lens. Maybe its just dust?

weedpuff said:
Try cleaning tour camera lens with microfiber cloth, that blue protection sticker left some adhesive on my lens. Maybe its just dust?
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I never got it before with my SP.. One day I take a picture and I had these black dots.
I already cleaned the camera lens, no results..
First I thought it's a firmware issue but today I updated my SP to .254 firmware and I still got this problem..
And a second reason it can't be dust. There are only black dots in picture mode, not in video mode..
This weekend I think to go to the store where I bought my SP and tell them. Maybe they can restore it or maybe I get a new one.
Hope the second haha!

Th3Duck said:
I have a question.
Does your power button seemed to sit crooked in to the bulb where the powerbutton is placed in? This was something that annoyed me in my previous SP.
Verstuurd van mijn C5303
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First time I see this!
Left side is a bit higher than the right side of the button (when I hold my phone in landscape mode with the screen to me).

I had faced this issue when i using galaxy y. This is hard issue, u should send it back to shop.
Sent from phone's neighbor wife at dreaming place

pergane said:
First time I see this!
Left side is a bit higher than the right side of the button (when I hold my phone in landscape mode with the screen to me).
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Ok, with my previous SP it was also that left side was a bit higher than the right and of course the camera spot problem:crying:
Dont know if it is a batch problem, just a theorie.
How long do you have the phone?
I got my previous SP begin june. (I live in Holland).
The new phone I got doesnt have the spots and the powerbutton is alligned nicely with the frame.
See upper right corner of the picture, if I changed the size of the photo the spots would go away.

Th3Duck said:
Ok, with my previous SP it was also that left side was a bit higher than the right and of course the camera spot problem:crying:
Dont know if it is a batch problem, just a theorie.
How long do you have the phone?
I got my previous SP begin june. (I live in Holland).
The new phone I got doesnt have the spots and the powerbutton is alligned nicely with the frame.
See upper right corner of the picture, if I changed the size of the photo the spots would go away.
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I got it from the release here in Belgium.

Strange, maybe its a batch problem but then there should be more people facing the same problems.
Haven you already made a decision about what you do with your phone?

do you still have warrenty?

My power button is like yours, the left side is higher than the right side.
I dont have any camera problem.
Is there any xsp that have a straight power button?
Pic please.

Th3Duck said:
Strange, maybe its a batch problem but then there should be more people facing the same problems.
Haven you already made a decision about what you do with your phone?
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The store where I bought my phone, they can not or want to give me a new one. The only thing they could do, is sending it for reparing. It will take 3-4 weeks they said. I don't want to miss my phone so long, that's the reason I will keep it with the black dots..

I too have the same problem :/

pergane said:
The store where I bought my phone, they can not or want to give me a new one. The only thing they could do, is sending it for reparing. It will take 3-4 weeks they said. I don't want to miss my phone so long, that's the reason I will keep it with the black dots..
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I brought my phone back to my contracter with the intention that they would fix it. After 2 weeks or something like that, I got called that I would get a new phone :victory:. Hopefully this info can help you. I dont know how things would work out for you
Also I'm stuck with three backcovers right now, thought I lost my backcover of my old SP (these you can keep when bringing phone for repair at my contracter) orderd new one, got new phone and found old backcover :silly:.
Also my xperia play is repaired after almost two years (had a contract and couldnt get a new phone yet) got it fixed for free and got the SP after that. In holland it is normal you have a two year warranty.

So... Bsi sensor bleeding

Reminiscent of the HTC one it seems that my unit has a blue bleed onto the sensor from the backside illumination. Look up the m7 low light issues. They get worse over time so I'm thinking what will happen is it starts out very mild as it is now and gets significantly worse as time progresses. Here is an example.
You really have to look for it to see it. Crank up brightness and such. When taking low light photos the outer parts must be dark. But really this bs from a flagship. I'll be returning this phone. LG g3 here I come no more bs knox!

darkfangex5 said:
Reminiscent of the HTC one it seems that my unit has a blue bleed onto the sensor from the backside illumination. Look up the m7 low light issues. They get worse over time so I'm thinking what will happen is it starts out very mild as it is now and gets significantly worse as time progresses. Here is an example.
You really have to look for it to see it. Crank up brightness and such. When taking low light photos the outer parts must be dark. But really this bs from a flagship. I'll be returning this phone. LG g3 here I come no more bs knox!
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why do you need black pictures anyways?

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why do you need black pictures anyways?
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I don't care for black photos. You completely missed the point. If it's anything like how the HTC one m7 sensors were it starts out so small
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Then clearly progresses into a full blown bad sensor. Looks like you completely missed my point of find it now, see if it's a widespread issue like the m7, track it to see if it gets worse, and fix it under warranry or replace if it's within return period like me. Above was my wife's htc one she never sent in(otterbox) next to an htc one we sent in and got back with a good sensor.

So it only gets worse... http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=2595534 and the main reference http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=2317507
Again I only made this thread because this is exactly how my wife's m7 started before it turned horrid. I played xcom on my phone which made it pretty hot for extended periods and ad the first thread states apparently gets worse with heat.

made a mistake using image shack.
heres a better look

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made a mistake using image shack.
heres a better look
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That looks more like noise from really high ISO to me.

Looks kinda like noise to me too
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declan8888 said:
Looks kinda like noise to me too
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I was thinking the same thing

I made a test taking a picture with the lights off and the phone agains my bed.
ISO 100 --> a very nice black photo
Auto ISO (a very high ISO, i can't remember the value, but it's extremely high) --> you can see at the center of the photo a perfect black, but in the corners you can see some purple tint. It looks like noise, but it's a strange behavior that just the corners are affected.

why is it assumed that since you have the faulty sensor thats just how the S5 was made. maybe you have a faulty device and it needs excahnged. try a second device and see how it is. if its similar thgen this maybe an issue. but one thing from one device isnt "bs from a flagship device"

It gets worse if you enable picture stabilization. Mine has quite a bit in low light, but as FarKeld noted, it all goes away at low iso settings.

with picture stabilization ISO goes up to 2000
btw: I'm getting an annoying error "Unfortunately, Gallery has stopped" every time I try to see my photos

FarKeld said:
with picture stabilization ISO goes up to 2000
btw: I'm getting an annoying error "Unfortunately, Gallery has stopped" every time I try to see my photos
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Try wiping your gallery and media storage data (via Settings). I had the same issue with Gallery and this fixed it.

emuX said:
Try wiping your gallery and media storage data (via Settings). I had the same issue with Gallery and this fixed it.
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it was a corrupted file, I deleted it and now the gallery works good

I Just realized how apparent it is in low light video. I guess it was iso noise or no picture at all.