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Now that we have root and are happily removing bloatware, many of us are trying to find and remove that blasted 3G hotspot app that keeps coming up with whatever we choose to use!
If anyone knows how and where to find and at least freeze it, we would all be very appreciative :-D
It has something to do with the dhcpd service. I'm looking at the code to see if there's an "easy" way around it.
why don't you just follow the rules and hack the hotspot app?
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why don't you just follow the rules and hack the hotspot app?
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You have to be careful with that app in terms of hacking it. Rumors say that Verizon knows when you are a hacked version and you could be charged, or violate certain parts of a contract.
why don't you just follow the rules and hack the hotspot app?
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Its more cumbersome than root tasks to me
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You have to be careful with that app in terms of hacking it. Rumors say that Verizon knows when you are a hacked version and you could be charged, or violate certain parts of a contract.
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I doubt that they can tell when you've hacked it without some sort of trickery that we're unaware of, but it is true that you violate part of your contract and get charged extra if they find out.
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I doubt that they can tell when you've hacked it without some sort of trickery that we're unaware of, but it is true that you violate part of your contract and get charged extra if they find out.
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Isn't that the point of trickery? If it was trickery we were aware of, it wouldn't be trickery anymore
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Isn't that the point of trickery? If it was trickery we were aware of, it wouldn't be trickery anymore
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I meant trickery as in some sort of magical method that can't be explained. We can be aware of it's presence, but not aware of how it works. We're not aware of either at the moment
If we hacked it but aren't using it, can verizon find out?
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I think it would be extremely difficult for then because it replaces codes so that your connected device doesn't come up as an external device but as the phone still using its data...
Is that a yes or no to my question? Lol
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jediman said:
Now that we have root and are happily removing bloatware, many of us are trying to find and remove that blasted 3G hotspot app that keeps coming up with whatever we choose to use!
If anyone knows how and where to find and at least freeze it, we would all be very appreciative :-D
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How exactly do we remove bloatware once we have achieved root? I've got root already, worked like a charm! but how do I remove this crapware?
virus5877 said:
How exactly do we remove bloatware once we have achieved root? I've got root already, worked like a charm! but how do I remove this crapware?
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Titanium Backup... buy it, FREEZE apps, do not rename, do not remove, do not uninstall... and watch what you do, several of them will cause never-ending force-closes if you're not careful.
Freezing apps removes the execute bit so the file remains, but the OS can't execute it.
^I say no
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Titanium Backup... buy it, FREEZE apps, do not rename, do not remove, do not uninstall... and watch what you do, several of them will cause never-ending force-closes if you're not careful.
Freezing apps removes the execute bit so the file remains, but the OS can't execute it.
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I uninstalled apps and haven't had any problems...
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^I say no
I uninstalled apps and haven't had any problems...
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Yah -- some are okay to uninstall, like the obvious ones (BlockBuster, Citrix, etc.) but some will break dialer/contacts, etc. like all the authenticators.
Yeah I broke my contacts, text messaging, and calendar. But that's okay. Because I never use them, and I use handcent for texting anyways
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It's just safer to get rid of the Verizon Hotspot app. I fear that no matter what we try to do to it they can find out. Even without the app they can find out. If you have an exceptionally large amount of data usage, or a constant high data usage connection they will investigate it. They then will monitor your data usage and start to throttle you, ping you and otherwise annoy you. Verizon just disables your ability to use your data. AT&T warns you twice and then charges you.
Just keep it under 15gbs a month. I went to 18 and they throttled me.
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It's just safer to get rid of the Verizon Hotspot app. I fear that no matter what we try to do to it they can find out. Even without the app they can find out. If you have an exceptionally large amount of data usage, or a constant high data usage connection they will investigate it. They then will monitor your data usage and start to throttle you, ping you and otherwise annoy you. Verizon just disables your ability to use your data. AT&T warns you twice and then charges you.
Just keep it under 15gbs a month. I went to 18 and they throttled me.
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this is a problem for you because u used 18gb of memory, which I don't understand how u do but for moderate usage its good...
royolpunk said:
Yeah I broke my contacts, text messaging, and calendar. But that's okay. Because I never use them, and I use handcent for texting anyways
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That was quick lol
/droid3
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That was quick lol
/droid3
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Lol. Dunno what happened
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So i flashed 5.7.893 to solve my data issues knowing the consequences. I also assumed that some smart dev would eventually formulate a fix to make everything peachy again when the time came. The way I understand it now is this though.
Locked boot loader makes it necessary to have signed files to update via ota path.
OTA files are designed to only update from a certain version. Ex 5.5.893 update can only be applied from 5.5.886 stock install.
So if I upgraded to 5.7.893 no official update is going to ever work because I can't flash my radio to anything official now.
I'm sure I left out or have some details wrong. But if someone has a better understanding ans cares to share it that would be great. Stop the forever speculation about getting on path again and we can all just wait for the actual fix.
The way I'm understanding it now, we need an official release from moto that specifically addresses this problem to fix it. Something I wouldn't think they are inclined to do because they don't want anyone doing it in the first place.
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a replacement phone. Everything else is speculation at this point.
Irony.....
1) Verizon releases a phone with very problematic data problems. For me doesn't really do much to address the issue. Still paid 30$/month for "unlimited" data.
2) Motorola lets files "leak" that could potentially fix these problems.
3) Motorola does not support these files and will tell you your wrong for using them.
Let's think about this for a second. If you put a hot dog in front of a starving man and walk away, do you really have cause to be pissed when you return to see the hot dog gone?
I have owned a wide range of "smart" phones now and come to realize that they all have shortcomings, but they all need to do a few things without fail. Make phone calls, send text messages, and connect to data services. If you are going to charge me 30$ a month for unlimited data, I should have unlimited data.
Where we wrong by using an update that wasn't official? Nah, I was starving and that hot dog had my name written all over it.
Motorola did not "let the file leak", they were pulled from their test servers by very deliberate acts of altering the firmware of the device and then scanning the servers for files and downloading them.
This is akin to stealing them and was no fault of Motorola's other than perhaps a lax cloud server security regime.
The problem comes when such methods are proliferated and made into simple tools and users are encouraged to avail themselves without sufficient warnings about the risks and responsibilities associated with that act.
Nonetheless, these are clearly our own choices and we cannot expect Motorola to even publicly acknowledge the issue, even while we hope for a solution to be provided by whatever means.
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Motorola did not "let the file leak", they were pulled from their test servers by very deliberate acts of altering the firmware of the device and then scanning the servers for files and downloading them.
This is akin to stealing them and was no fault of Motorola's other than perhaps a lax cloud server security regime.
The problem comes when such methods are proliferated and made into simple tools and users are encouraged to avail themselves without sufficient warnings about the risks and responsibilities associated with that act.
Nonetheless, these are clearly our own choices and we cannot expect Motorola to even publicly acknowledge the issue, even while we hope for a solution to be provided by whatever means.
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I call B/S. Anyone that doesn't believe that Moto could have sequestered those files is dead wrong. They were there for a purpose. And they served their purpose.
Their refusal by inaction, to support those of us who "tested" their OTA's for them is at the very least unethical.
That is the way business works in 2011. Screw the consumer, let's make more money.
RMD
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Motorola did not "let the file leak", they were pulled from their test servers by very deliberate acts of altering the firmware of the device and then scanning the servers for files and downloading them.
This is akin to stealing them and was no fault of Motorola's other than perhaps a lax cloud server security regime.
The problem comes when such methods are proliferated and made into simple tools and users are encouraged to avail themselves without sufficient warnings about the risks and responsibilities associated with that act.
Nonetheless, these are clearly our own choices and we cannot expect Motorola to even publicly acknowledge the issue, even while we hope for a solution to be provided by whatever means.
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I have read quite a bit of the hard work you've done for us sir, and I would like to say its much appreciated!
A company such as Motorola has the resources to guard the things they don't want others to have. Otherwise HTC, Samsung, LG etc. etc. etc. would always be a step ahead of them. If it was lax security on their part, they still set the hot dog in front of us...
1) The next official OTA is the leaked 5.7.893
2) An OTA down the road doesn't check the boot.img md5 and installs a full boot.img instead of just patching (I think the reason behind the requirement of having the previous version, not to spite the leak installers but to create a smaller download with just a patch).
3) Release singed zips of official OTA radio and boot (not sure why not, its not like anyone could hack these)
I would hope that at least the ICS release will require a new kernel that can't be just a patch but a full install. In that case I would also hope they would take out the md5 check.
How about the 5.9.901 OTA update that Motorola "mistakenly" pushed to users before testing was complete? They are going to have to fix that for those who received the update.
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The general thinking I have read is that the 5.9.901 update is a test for an Emergency Notification system that Moto is working on. It was rolled out to random phones for testing and wasn't intended for general release.
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I call B/S. Anyone that doesn't believe that Moto could have sequestered those files is dead wrong. They were there for a purpose. And they served their purpose.
Their refusal by inaction, to support those of us who "tested" their OTA's for them is at the very least unethical.
That is the way business works in 2011. Screw the consumer, let's make more money.
RMD
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That's kind of a warped way of looking at it. What were people doing poking around in their servers? Are you one of those guys that feels like anything is yours for the taking if the door wasn't locked?
While annoying moto told me that if you applied the leaks it didn't void the warranty so you can send it to them and they will get it back on the update path. Def annoying but there is a way back
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While annoying moto told me that if you applied the leaks it didn't void the warranty so you can send it to them and they will get it back on the update path. Def annoying but there is a way back
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Very bizarre and impressive that they support this.
Some people in this thread claiming they were able to get back to the upgrade path. From 5.7.893 to .886 stock then ota to 5.5.893
It's alot to read through.
http://rootzwiki.com/topic/12749-getting-back-on-the-ota-update-path/
dagostin said:
While annoying moto told me that if you applied the leaks it didn't void the warranty so you can send it to them and they will get it back on the update path. Def annoying but there is a way back
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Well this is good news if the Moto rep is correct!
Method works. I myself am backon update path now.
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Ok so, I bought this awesome device and Im waiting for it to be delivered. I know that rooting has awesome features and great things, but Im wondering if someone has experienced any kind of issue after rooting... I read somewhere here in the forum, that the Wifi on someone's tablet stopped working and he had to return it.. Sadly, I can't be returning stuff since I live out of the states and is not that easy... Hope someone can tell me ^^ Would love to have 3 or 4 answers for me to take my decision. Thanks in advance.
Jailuis
jailuis said:
Ok so, I bought this awesome device and Im waiting for it to be delivered. I know that rooting has awesome features and great things, but Im wondering if someone has experienced any kind of issue after rooting... I read somewhere here in the forum, that the Wifi on someone's tablet stopped working and he had to return it.. Sadly, I can't be returning stuff since I live out of the states and is not that easy... Hope someone can tell me ^^ Would love to have 3 or 4 answers for me to take my decision. Thanks in advance.
Jailuis
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If you follow instructions to a complete letter and make sure it's the correct rooting instructions for your version number, then all should be well but I do have to say that it's always done at your own risk. There's no way around that.
I have not read anyone else with rooting problems on here for the KFHD. The guy with the wifi post which I've read most likely got a dud. Mine was rooted and ran fine for me. I returned mine for other reasons.
Just be careful on what you do to your device. If you do something you shouldn't with your "extra privileges", it can be easy to brick your device. Especially when it's so young in development stages right now.
I received my fire a week ago. I intended to root it like I have all other android devices I own.
I have kept it stock and probably will for awhile. I just did not feel the need to root. I side loaded GMail and most other Google apps I wanted. I side loaded adw launcher and dolphin browser. So I feel no real reason to root since a few people have had problems.
Now when the boot loader gets unlocked and there is custom Roms now that is a different story.
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I rooted yesterday. Got go ex as default launcher, play store, dolphin, etc. No problems yet. Seems faster, if anything.
There aren't many risks with it other then the average (brick). Which can occur with any device. Just make sure you follow the steps correctly step by step, and make sure your adb drivers are installed correctly.
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I rooted yesterday. Got go ex as default launcher, play store, dolphin, etc. No problems yet. Seems faster, if anything.
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About the only reason I'd root is for the play store
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You risk having a better running tablet
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My devices are all rooted, for my Bionic, it's so that I can use AdFree, Titanium Backup and to run AirBubble, which let's AirPlay devices see the phone and ply music to it remotely (or to whatever speakers it's plugged in to! ) It doesn't have to be used for illegal stuff, it just unlocks your phone's administrator privileges so that those that know specific use cases which require lower level code can go ahead and run. If you can already do everything you want with your phone, you don't need to root it.
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My devices are all rooted, for my Bionic, it's so that I can use AdFree, Titanium Backup and to run AirBubble, which let's AirPlay devices see the phone and ply music to it remotely (or to whatever speakers it's plugged in to! ) It doesn't have to be used for illegal stuff, it just unlocks your phone's administrator privileges so that those that know specific use cases which require lower level code can go ahead and run. If you can already do everything you want with your phone, you don't need to root it.
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Rooting is good for getting rid of bloatware too.
With rooting there is always a risk that you are going to screw something up. The easiest way to ensure that doesnt happen is to not root the device. But if you are going to anyway just don't do something you don't fully understand unless you are willing to take the risks.
For example if you do not know how to use adb then don't try at this time, play around with it on something else. If you still want root and don't know adb then use the automated root tool. All the hard stuff is done for you and there is no chance of inputting something wrong and causing problems. To avoid any conflicts with apps or settings reset the device to factory. Just one more step to take human error out of the equation.
After the device is rooted is when people tend to cause problems for themselves. IF YOU DON'T KNOW WHAT IT IS/DOES DON'T TOUCH IT!!! If you are messing around inside a file manager any folder outside the sdcard folder has the potential to cause problems so- IF YOU DON'T KNOW WHAT IT IS/DOES DON'T TOUCH IT!!!(unless you can afford the risk)
When making changes, research what you are trying to do extensively and don't rely on one source. What worked for one person will not always work for another, to many variables.
All in all just aire on the side of caution.
Thanks for all responses ^^ I've had other android devices and I had rooted them, but Im afraid with this one since I read about the wifi not working anymore... But thanks to all of you I might give it a shot. One last thing, I have 2 KFHD, do I have to install Adb for both?
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Thanks for all responses ^^ I've had other android devices and I had rooted them, but Im afraid with this one since I read about the wifi not working anymore... But thanks to all of you I might give it a shot. One last thing, I have 2 KFHD, do I have to install Adb for both?
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I used the auto root tool without issues. I would think once you install adb on your Pc it should work for both. I had to also install the android sdk tool.
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no risk.just go ahead.toot it.lol
onemeila said:
With rooting there is always a risk that you are going to screw something up. The easiest way to ensure that doesnt happen is to not root the device. But if you are going to anyway just don't do something you don't fully understand unless you are willing to take the risks.
For example if you do not know how to use adb then don't try at this time, play around with it on something else. If you still want root and don't know adb then use the automated root tool. All the hard stuff is done for you and there is no chance of inputting something wrong and causing problems. To avoid any conflicts with apps or settings reset the device to factory. Just one more step to take human error out of the equation.
After the device is rooted is when people tend to cause problems for themselves. IF YOU DON'T KNOW WHAT IT IS/DOES DON'T TOUCH IT!!! If you are messing around inside a file manager any folder outside the sdcard folder has the potential to cause problems so- IF YOU DON'T KNOW WHAT IT IS/DOES DON'T TOUCH IT!!!(unless you can afford the risk)
When making changes, research what you are trying to do extensively and don't rely on one source. What worked for one person will not always work for another, to many variables.
All in all just aire on the side of caution.
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Thanks.
Anyone try to "activate KNOX" thru device administrators in the settings to see if that disables the KNOX program ? Or do you think that would trip the counter .. could be the most easiest step skipped over .. lol
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I think activating through admin gives it permission to do more, not less. And since your activating something I don't really think it disables a thing.
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Well when u click on the subtitle it says its "disabling" a bunch of things .. such as sd card protection .. privacy type of things .. giving YOU control of them .. im on ATT next program .. i just didnt know if any of the designers just said, "fudge it, lets see what happens if i do this !!!"
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I still owe $700 for the next year :kicking myself: for being a electronic junkie
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Sorry you guys can delete this thread ... question was answered on someone elses thread
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no knox support from at&t or verizon
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Anyone try to "activate KNOX" thru device administrators in the settings to see if that disables the KNOX program ? Or do you think that would trip the counter .. could be the most easiest step skipped over .. lol
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activating knox in the device administrator does nothing the real knox program is not installed, after talking to at&t like 25 times and Samsung tech department I finally got an answer knox is not going to be supported by at&t coming from Samsung ,the 3 knox links you see in device administrator is left in there just I case at&t changes their mind,,, knox is a 256 bit encryption program running at the same time as android an is safe from hacking I like that,,i took my note 3 back within the 14 days return policy told them that was the reason for the return, we all need to call and complain about this to rock the boat and maybe we can get at&t on the boat I love the phone and I will buy one again in a month or too but I don't get at&t on this matter but as they cant se what you are doing inside knox maybe that's why ?? T-Mobile and sprint left it in there
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activating knox in the device administrator does nothing the real knox program is not installed, after talking to at&t like 25 times and Samsung tech department I finally got an answer knox is not going to be supported by at&t coming from Samsung ,the 3 knox links you see in device administrator is left in there just I case at&t changes their mind,,, knox is a 256 bit encryption program running at the same time as android an is safe from hacking I like that,,i took my note 3 back within the 14 days return policy told them that was the reason for the return, we all need to call and complain about this to rock the boat and maybe we can get at&t on the boat I love the phone and I will buy one again in a month or too but I don't get at&t on this matter but as they cant se what you are doing inside knox maybe that's why ?? T-Mobile and sprint left it in there
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This has been solved here:
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=2470278
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daraj said:
This has been solved here:
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=2470278
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yes I saw that one but if you root you lose digital rights management and I you my phone to steam movies through the hdmi dock like Samsung movies,vudu movies and google movies,is there a way to trick these program so it looks like your not rooted ??
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yes I saw that one but if you root you lose digital rights management and I you my phone to steam movies through the hdmi dock like Samsung movies,vudu movies and google movies,is there a way to trick these program so it looks like your not rooted ??
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FYI. ...I was able to install using root explorer and I am not rooted. I just clicked on the app from root explorer and the install prompt kicked in. Try it.
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Ok so I just switched from an iPhone 6 plus to the note 4 and I love it but I keep seeing all the post about rooting and I don't know if it's for me I have jailbroken my iPhone before but I see so many different stuff like roms and am kind of lost and don't know where I would start and what to choose what's the difference between them and if it's even worth it any info and comments would be appreciated. Thanks
Dude, if you have a brain in your head. And a computer or laptop at home. WHAT are you waiting for??! Rooting and custom roms are always going to be my sht lol. Thus why when I get my laptop I am rooting right away. And start to learn to code android with a bunch of programs. Eventually i will bring out a rom myself. It's all about the love for the "sport". Only reason I haven't rooted is because the current computer I have sucks so bad, so slow. But once this taxes come in baby its on!
I haven't found the need to root just yet. If Lollipop releases before the official T-Mobile release, then may-be.
no... simple
But I still don't know why I should root and I I was going to root which one should I use and what does it mean when I see people are rooted and then they flash roms or something I don't want to brick my phone and will I still be able to jump because I hear that it will show that it's been rooted or something about Knox?
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no... simple
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The need to root should come before doing it. If you don't know what you're doing it for then you don't need it.
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But I still don't know why I should root and I I was going to root which one should I use and what does it mean when I see people are rooted and then they flash roms or something I don't want to brick my phone and will I still be able to jump because I hear that it will show that it's been rooted or something about Knox?
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Based on your questions, you have ALOT of reading up to do before you should even attempt to root..Its super easy, but until you know what you are doing, and how to recover in case something goes wrong, don't be in a hurry to do anything...
Start here: http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=2903733
I'd recommend firekat for your first rom. I'm switching to some version of cm12 today, but you can work on that later when you are more comfortable with Odin and team win recovery.
I guess my main question is what can I do if I root that I can't do unrooted. I have unrooted a phone before thanks to this forum and the help users provided. I wouldn't do anything until I read and was sure of what I was doing but the curiosity has me thinking of doing it and as I read the post on these forums like everyone and their mother is rooted.
You won't brick. These phones are hard to brick. Just follow the instructions. They don't check if Knox is tripped to jump.
Ad blockers like adfree and adaway are big reasons for me. Makes it so you can use free apps without suffering through the ads. It's most important for me with free games and the CNN app:
You can see in that same picture cachemate. Using it and other cleaners requires root access.
Sd maid is another cleaner that needs root access to be fully functional. In the picture you can also see root browser which let's you see more of the phone than my files:
Titanium backup let's you remove the Tmobile bloat:
It requires root access.
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You can see in that same picture cachemate. Using it and other cleaners requires root access.
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you should stop advertising root to him.. LOL
Free tethering.
Ok well so far the only thing I would do it for would be for the hotspot what else could I benefit from and thanks for all the comments and info
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Why would you say that?
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Why would you say that
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