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TyTN II Screen Broken.... sort of

Hi All
Spent awhile searching the forums (and the web) but couldn't find any relevant answers -- so here goes & apologies if it has been up before...
My TyTN2 got rain on the screen a few days ago (about 15-20 drops) and since then the touch part of the screen no longer works. The phone itself works perfectly, the screen displays everything as it should, but no touch.
Could a few raindrops do this?
I have a Hermes/TyTN 'lying around', anyone know if the screens are the same/compatible, was about to start searching for part numbers etc. but thought I'd ask the question anyway.
Any help, answers, pointers or links would be appreciated.
TIA

You could always buy a new touch screen.
I saw one at dealextreme.com for 4.99 , probably not the best quality but you can always give it a try for that price
sku.14919
cnn.cn also has the part , but only in combo with the actual lcd screen.

Thanks RacerII -- will check it out..

Had a similar issue with the touch screen dying after an os crash the other night n thought it was dead. Did a hard reset and reflashed and everything worked just fine. Try the hard reset and reflash first before you think about any repair options

@kaalgoosy
Thanks for the reply -- did a hard reset as you suggested, no change -- about to try a reflash -- currently using L26's B1 ROM, have dl'd B4 and will give that a whirl -- only problem seems to be I have to bypass the Welcome/Screen Alignment section (no touchscreen!) and Activesync seems to be lacking/missing/not working -- so can only try the SD method -- just reading up on that now

ROM update made no difference (wasn't holding my breath anyway...)
Looks like a screen replacement, after looking at the potential difficulties separating the digitiser from the LCD, decided a straight LCD replacement is my best option -- have found a place that will supply it (London UK) for £30 + p&p -- anyone know of a better (read cheaper) supplier?
Intending to use Mike Channon's guide to replace it myself...

no few drops of rain wont cause that damage...
most new PDAs and new gadgets in general including cams, portable ps... etc has a elements of water resistant+shock resistant and even an anti-magnetic field absorbtion (or something like) to reduce interference with other devices...
blackfoot said:
My TyTN2 got rain on the screen a few days ago (about 15-20 drops) and since then the touch part of the screen no longer works. The phone itself works perfectly, the screen displays everything as it should, but no touch.
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there must be another reason cuz first sign of water damage will be blurry display..
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the screen displays everything as it should, but no touch.
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get your phone inspected by a professional technician especially if under warranty (dont tell them it was affected by rain drops.. they wont know) it might not be a very fair thing to say but again who said life is fair

blackfoot said:
ROM update made no difference (wasn't holding my breath anyway...)
Looks like a screen replacement, after looking at the potential difficulties separating the digitiser from the LCD, decided a straight LCD replacement is my best option -- have found a place that will supply it (London UK) for £30 + p&p -- anyone know of a better (read cheaper) supplier?
Intending to use Mike Channon's guide to replace it myself...
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Have you got a web address for the London supplier? I think my screen may be on the way out.
Good luck with the replacement.

@jahrami -- was using the Kaiser's camera to take some photos for my daughter, it started raining while I was taking the last couple. 15-20 drops or so (as I said). Dabbed this off with kitchen roll, put the phone away. Got home a little later, tried to use the phone, no touch -- played around, soft reset etc etc, but nothing.
The rain is the only thing that has happened to it -- the display is perfect, phone itself works perfectly, have hard-reset, reflashed ROM, still no touch control... and while in theory I agree with you that a few drops of rain _shouldn't_ cause this sort of damage, it seems it has. Checked the water damage strip behind the battery, it's white, assume this goes pink/blue or WHY when exposed to real amounts of water.
Sadly, warranty is out (by 1 month) & the local phone shops want £40 to strip it and look... £32 for a screen? I'll do it myself -- if it doesn't fix it, back to the Eten M700...
@ach2 -- tried to put a complete & direct link to the item, message box wouldn't accept it (very long url). This company sells on ebay too, slightly cheaper (27.99 +p&p) and under various other site names, feedback is positive and screens are new. Can't comment on the company personally, unless you wait for a week. Thanks for the good wishes, will probably need them.
http://www.sparepartsformobiles.com search for Kaiser LCD replacement.

OP:
Before you buy anything for 27 quid: Note that there are 2 elements to that screen, as was mentioned (but maybe not quite clear) in post 2. There is the actual screen, which is a liquid crystal screen with thin film transistors with a glass plate on top, but on top of that is a digitizer. The digitizer is literally 2 sheets of slightly conductive plastic put together to assess where the stylus (or your finger) is currently touching it.
The digitizer shouldn't cost you more than about 5-10 quid. The full screen is going to cost you about 30 quid. You definitely don't need a new screen.
I've replaced 2 digitizers and 1 full screen on my HTC magician (I'm very good at smashing it into things) and after I broke it again, I bought a used HTC tilt cause I felt that an upgrade was in order. I ordered the digitizers for the magician and the screens from a generic eBay store in Hong Kong, it arrived the US (Boston) after about 2 weeks, I would expect Old Blighty to be similar.
Greetings from "New" England.
lncdoc

One more suggestion for you: have you considered using a virtual mouse cursor program? Maybe VirtuaMouse One-Hand?
Of course it won't actually "fix" your screen, but at least you'll be able to tap around your PPC until you fix the touch panel itself.

i will agree with such a temporarily fix, use a combination of virtual mouse
and voice commander and hotkeys shortcuts to navigate through your phone
look for second hand screen, there must be some around dude
EGMine said:
One more suggestion for you: have you considered using a virtual mouse cursor program? Maybe VirtuaMouse One-Hand?
Of course it won't actually "fix" your screen, but at least you'll be able to tap around your PPC until you fix the touch panel itself.
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blackfoot said:
Looks like a screen replacement, after looking at the potential difficulties separating the digitiser from the LCD, decided a straight LCD replacement is my best option
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@incdoc -- Greetings to you too, cousin -- yes I do realise the screen has a separate digitiser (see quote above from earlier post), and in fact, the same supplier has digitisers for £8 but after reading about the difficulties of separating the digitiser from the LCD thought I would save time, effort and money by replacing the LCD in its entirety. I can always play with the older one afterwards, and if I successfully split them will get a touch screen and keep the thing as a spare, which seems like a good idea, as there are now several more posts regarding the same or similar issues to mine, just within the last few days.
Are you suggesting that separation _isn't_ difficult?
@EGMine -- have to say that I haven't heard of VirtuaMouse One-Hand, will look it up -- thanks for the suggestion.

Jahrami -- thanks for the suggestion, about to check VirtuaMouse and completely forgot about Voice Commander, just changed my ROM to L26's B4, (after fault developed) so haven't set the phone up, yet -- but definitely will set up some voice tags.
Big thank you (for telling me something I should have thought of myself -- age really is a bummer!)
Edit** Dl'd trial of VirtuaMouse, good idea -- hard work! Combination of Voice Tags and scroll wheel much better. Eten M700 back in cupboard. ;-))

Dammit, dammit and dammit!
In the interest of rounding things off -- thought I'd post this to (almost) end my (little) epic.
Bought a replacement screen from the source listed above, £32, web price was lower with free shipping, but phoned the order through to get a quicker delivery. Arrived the next day, exactly as ordered. (Bravo!) No tools included, but I have some anyway.
Used Mike Channons guide to replacement (no mention of the sticky keyboard hinge 'finisher' anywhere BTW), all went as planned. Total time to replace about 1hr 15mins. (Not rushing)
Screen kicked in, onto alignment and yippee! -- touch working again!
Knew I shouldn't have had that celebratory cup of tea! -- put SIM in, followed by SD card, phone no longer recognises the SIM. Bu**er!
Stripped the phone again (impressed myself, took less than 10 minutes), checked to see if the SIM ribbon had popped off -- seemed ok, but popped it and reseated it anyway. Reassembled the phone, popped in the SIM -- Bu**er again.
Stripped the phone again (4 minutes -- not bad eh?), checked the SIM connection to the keypad PCB and 2 of the contacts in the socket look slightly mangled.
At this point now I'm wishing I'd gone for the £70 repair option, it's 20 to 1 in the morning (12:40 am to you), the eyes are a little fuzzy and I (once again) have a TyTNII 'kit' in front of me.
Oh well, there's always tomorrow -- now where did I put my Eten M700?
EDIT** Forgot to add a request, if anyone has a TyTNII in bits and wants to sell the keypad PCB, leave info or PM. Thanks.
EDIT 2** Oh well, seems like I _have_ kiboshed the SIM socket on the keypad PCB -- so hoping someone has one (keypad PCB or TyTNII) lying around will sell for bits?

Diamond touch screen not reacting when touched.

The touch screen of my htc touch diamond is not working properly. It does not react to my touch. For me to get it to work I have to rub my fingers over it then it will be work again as normal. This only lasts for a few minutes after a while it becomes non responsive again. It is like it has to be warmed up to get it to work. This a problem when it comes to sending text messages. (the problem remains when I remove the protective screen).
Anyone has a answer to this?

remember the last program you installed and remove it , maybe it cause this problem
or try hardreset

Tried both methods still not working. I have ran out of ideas. Anyone else expierenced this problem?

Im having the same problem with my Raphael

To really know whether it is a hardware problem or software based problem, I recommend a hard reset and see whether the problem persists...

this is likely to be water damage on the screen. send it off for warranty see if they fix it. they fixed it for mine.

The thing is iv noticed the touch screen isn't thermal reactive like most touch screens. In other words the temprature of your finger is sensed on thermal screens, the HTC you can use anything solid that makes contact. Usefull if you have long nails.
So I'm guessing its probably hardware if it works after a while of 'rubbing' it, But like otacon said I would do a hard reset before jumping to that conclusion.

Same problem
Hi there....i saw that this is an old thread but did you manage to get it to work?
Cause i have a HTC Diamond that i changed both the displays on(LCD and the "point screen") and everything works fine on mine now,even tried to recieve phonecalls and it works excellent so as i said EVERYTHING works like a charm but the touch function.....it doesn´t react in any way while trying to use the touch function and i have tried soft reset,hard reset,new rom,checked all the internal connections around 4-5times and everything is ok but the damn touch function won´t work whatever i do with it.
I haven´t "glued" the 2 screens together,but they are sitting close to eachother so it should work anyways right?
Now from what i have seen on internet is that there are different versions of touch screens available on the market and i ordered the LCD from one company and the touch screen from another.
Could it be so that they aren´t compatible together or am i doing something wrong?
I´m still stuck at "Tap the screen to set up your Windows Mobile-based device" and can´t get any further after trying another rom.
Please help me out if it´s possible.

I have exactly the same issue you're experiencing, I've actual flashed the original rom, thinking that might put every settings in place to make it work, but no joy.
I don't be leave the concept of the weather condition equate to the performance of the device, as read in some of the forums. reason being I've had mine in very hot climate Country for over year whiles working on a project in Africa. In fact that was when I realised the the screen has become unresponsive.
I think this is a hardware issue.

It´s working perfect again
So since my last reply i ordered a new touch digitizer and lcd display and soldered them together carefully(first time i bought a lcd and digitizer from two different companies so they weren´t compatible with eachother and made the touch defective and second time i bought both digitizer and LCD screen from the same company and then it worked) and it has been working perfect since i last wrote my comment so i recomend you check the contacts/connections first on the phone because i had some minor issues with them when i assambled the phone again so i had to #wiggle# the contacts so i made sure they were connected.
We had a company here that sold lcd displays and digitizers out for a total of 30dollars with shipping so i had nothing to loose on it so that´s why i ordered a new set again and that made everything work as a charm since i replaced it.
Now i have searched online about the displays and the digitizers and i have found out that there are atlast three different versions of them so if you order a digitizer and a LCD make sure you atleast order both from the same company so it doesn´t happen the same to you what happened to me the first time.
Cheers and hope i helped you somewhat or else just ask on and i should try to answer.

Possible Ribbon Problems

My Xperia X1 is currently experiencing problems. The screen no longer lights up!
I started experiencing this problem a while ago, when opening and closing the device.
Day by day everything went from bad to worse and at one point it no longer lit up!
At first I thought there was some kind of screen problem so I bought one new LCD off ebay.
I disassembled my Xperia carefully following a tutorial on youtube.com and replaced the screen. Nothing changed. The screen didn't light up.
The strange thing is that everything else worked! Sound, buttons, vibration etc. all work without a glitch.
I had gave up my hopes of reviving my device and for four long months it simply got dusty. That is, until I found this post :
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=561151
I opened my device and realised that I have the same problems mentioned in that post.
Thus, in an attempt to solve the issues I opened my phone and took the following pictures.
Please can anybody confirm that I have flex ribbon issues and tell me what I can do to solve this problem once and for all? Can I fix it or do I need a new Xperia flex ribbon?
I can't wait to start using my 'old' device again!

Look like a flex ribbon issue to me. You can fix it by getting a flex ribbon of course. I've had 3 go out on me...thinking about giving up on this phone entirely.

As mentioned in the previous thread re: similar problem, the flex will always be the culprit in any device with slide or flip form factor, not limited to Xperia. Most of the repairs coming in are for flex damage, regardless of the device price and quality.
I had no issues with replaced flexes on Xperia, once installed they serve their life span (albeit short one). It is possible to reinforce the flex, provided your tape is a very fine one, it needs to run in particular place only, e.g. where it is physically rubbed and bent the most.

[Q] Touch screen dead spots

This may be a problem beyond the scope of android, but seeing as I'm running it, I thought I'd try here first.
I've noticed that the lower left hand side of my screen has a "dead spot" where touch is simply not registered. To illustrate, I went to screen calibration's test screen and drew a straight line along the edge of the screen. (See Attachment)
I've tried recalibrating the screen (manually and resetting to default calibration) as well as wiping data and reinstalling the system. Reinstalling the system worked once, but then the problem came back and subsequent reinstalls did not fix the issue.
I'm running Incubus26jc super froyo [RLS 12] on the 15-07-10 340X480 Froyo Kernel.
Anyone else seen anything like this? As far as I can tell, the problem is not getting any worse. Currently, it's only a hindrance when trying to use keys in that region, but I can work around it by switching to and from landscape. It's a bit of a hassle, so I'm hoping someone may be able to shed some light on the situation.
I was sure it was hardware until the system reinstall fixed it, but am now baffled as I can no longer replicate the fix.
I have not tried reinstalling the kernel but will at some point in the next day or so. I'd like to avoid switching back to WM to check if the problem persists, but may have to... we'll see. Doing everything I can to make this phone last until the Incredible month of February when I'm up for an upgrade.

dont know the issue resolution... but i have the same with my touch vogue.. and in the same 'area' apparently as well.
hard for me to hit the 'a' key on my keyboard. hehe

I'm glad to see I'm not the only one... anyone else?

Bottom right corner for me... I was able to calibrate around it but it took a few tries.
Sent from my Full Android on Vogue using XDA App

The sensitivity across my screen was inconsistent some time ago. I found that years of my abuse had taken a tole on the exterior of my phone. It eventually got worse and I bought a new housing (with a new digitizer) on ebay for a reasonable price. If it is hardware then it really isn't that hard to fix if you like taking things apart.
If you're sure that win mo accepts input from that part of the screen then nevermind my post. I would play with a painting app though and investigate the hardware further.
I may be talking a little out my a$$ with this part but.. is it possible that in calibrating your screen the os may change it's settings on how hard you have to press and such also. that may be how you got it working.
In any case, my investment in a hew housing was well worth it considering how modern my old phone has become thanks to the developers here.

gooph said:
I may be talking a little out my a$$ with this part but.. is it possible that in calibrating your screen the os may change it's settings on how hard you have to press and such also. that may be how you got it working.
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In my case, no - when drawing a straight line down or across the screen, the line starts 'moving' away from the stylus (like the picture in the OP).

Gah... now it's shutting itself off randomly and the dead spot has grown. Not good at all.

Yeah, mine was better for a while then 'slid' again. I ended up swapping the digitizer with my other Vogue and things are back to normal.
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I have another vogue, but am weary of doing anything like that. How hard was it to get done?

All you need to do is switch the front half of the housing rather than the digitizer itself- it's not hard. There's a teardown guide somewhere in the forum, Google Vogue teardown and it should be at the top.
Sent from my Full Android on Vogue using XDA App

The only thing that worries me is that my spare vogue exists because it was dropped in a muddy puddle. I'm hoping the water damage isn't too bad. Guess we'll just have to see.

it is really annoying
I have the exact same problem and I too thought it was a hardware issue till I saw this Thread. I was ignoring it till two days ago when it started really bugging me. Now, I don't even need to press any button and it automatically gets pressed around the curve and I have a google search box there, so it keeps on searching for eee or sss randomly and started draining my battery. Is there a proper fix for this?

I thought I'd chime in too... I could never seem to calibrate the touchscreen properly in either Android or Debian. Changing the screen resolution (i.e. msmfb scaling) seems to have no effect, whether it's 240x320 or 640x480. Any area within 5mm or so of the edges of the LCD will register as the edge, making "A" and several other keys on the virtual keyboard impossible to hit. Passing calibration values to the kernel didn't seem to fix anything, but it's possible I was using them the wrong way...

i have the same kind of problem on my Kaiser... i think its realted to hardware... either the housing or the digitizer...

I am experiencing the same problem on X10 mini pro. the same screen spot exactly, i have to try very hard to get z or x or shift to work. Sometimes when I try locking the screen and unlocking it back, it works.

update
so after a very long time with this problem i decided to change the digitizer and problem is gonne. visualy the broken digitizer had nothing wrong with it. The fix was fairly easy though, there is no glued parts involved into getting a new digitizer on the u20i.

Touch Screen
I just bought a brand new Cubot One and it looks more than perfect! It has just a little problem with the touch screen ( I think its the software, need ROM change). There is a dead line on the right side of the screen that touch doesn't work at all. Any solutions? Anyone faced that before? Can I fix it myself or do I have to send it back for replacement? Is there any video or guide that shows its done?
I uploaded a video on YouTube to show the problem but i cant post it yet.. (new member)
You can write "Cubot One touch screen problem" and it's the 1st one.
Thank You!

Z3C whole column of touch dead + bottom bar

Hi there,
I am having some issues with my Z3C and thinking of doing a repair myself.
A few months ago the first issue started, still present: the bottom bar buttons (back, home, apps) require extra pressure. This was probably my fault as I might have bent it a bit during cleaning, resulting in this damage (not that strong of a bent, but somehow it screwed it).
The second problem started yesterday, after a bit of rain I have now the full second digitizer column from left completely dead (tested with service menu).
So I was wondering, has any of you already gone through the process and can give me some indications? Ideally I would replace only the digitizer, but I hear it's better to buy it bundled with the LCD as making them match tight is always the very complex part of the job?
Please also share links with parts that worked for you, I am thinking of buying the part from US or China (but would like OEM/original).
Thanks

I have found these parts:
http://www.witrigs.com/oem-lcd-with-digitizer-for-sony-xperia-z3-black
https://www.amazon.co.uk/Xperia-compact-Display-Digitizer-Replacement/dp/B0148JVO9E
https://www.replacebase.co.uk/sony-xperia-z3-compact-replacement-lcd-touch-screen-assembly-black/
As I understand OEM does not mean supplied by Sony but rather should have the same parts with same specs..but of course it will not have 100% :cyclops:
I would like to know if somebody has replaced it already and what is their experience; I am not going for digitizer only but digitizer+LCD

I have a similar issue on my Z3C. My entire middle row is non-touch responsive.
Did you manage to repair your phone? Was it worth the hassel?

https://forum.xda-developers.com/showpost.php?p=73793022&postcount=19
Here you go, to avoid writing everything again, I've posted this in other thread, still using that screen, and happy with it.