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I am about to buy a Rogers Diamond. Having owned 2 different Windows Mobile phones from them, I know they probably managed to limit the heck out of their Diamond so I was wondering if anyone that has a Rogers Diamond could tell me (us?) if they decided to limit software installation, GPS, internet etc etc.
If so, is there a fix?
If there's no english one I'll get the french one. Any flashing to standard english ROM possible right now?
Thanks in advance, can't wait!
-Nick
PS: Gecko is coming soon, hopefully before Christmas!
well i got mine today, few board members got it as welll before me.
I haven't played too much with the phone yet, but up to now they dont seem like they played too much with it...
if you want to know:
ROM Version: 1.93.631.8 WWE
Radio Version: 1.00.25.06
ram: 192mb
flash size: 256mb
you can flash to anything you want as long as you HARD-SPL your phone, causing it to SuperCID.
You don't really have to worry about backing up your rom because you can find it here, a board member already got it for us to play around with.
D0MZE said:
well i got mine today, few board members got it as welll before me.
I haven't played too much with the phone yet, but up to now they dont seem like they played too much with it...
if you want to know:
ROM Version: 1.93.631.8 WWE
Radio Version: 1.00.25.06
ram: 192mb
flash size: 256mb
you can flash to anything you want as long as you HARD-SPL your phone, causing it to SuperCID.
You don't really have to worry about backing up your rom because you can find it here, a board member already got it for us to play around with.
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havent seen that version of the radio before?
No. Memory. Card.
What the heck? I had a 4GB one anyway, but it makes testing apps and transferring music so fast!
Rogers Diamond
I got my Rogers branded HTC Diamond yesterday and so far it'll let me install any apps I want. Internet works through wifi and 3G. I can't find a way to turn off 3G connection. GPS works but acquiring sat lock takes like 5mins compared to my old EU/Asia Diamond which locks to sat in 30sec.
ROGERS 3G
Just want to share this. But I'm pretty sure this has been tackled in the forums already.
Rogers branded HTC Diamond doesn't have the option to turn of 3G through band selection. I found this registry hack to enable band selection and now I can turn 3G off.
Rogers default registry - OFF
[\HKLM\Software\OEM\PhoneSetting\]
"ShowUMTSBandPage"=dword:0
Registry tweak to enable band changes
[\HKLM\Software\OEM\PhoneSetting\]
"ShowUMTSBandPage"=dword:1
Now you can go to >start>settings>phone>band tab and change band settings to your choice. I switched mine to just use GSM instead of auto which always connects on 3G.
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havent seen that version of the radio before?
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really? that's what it says here, i just double checked cause you made me wonder i did a mistake
radio version
same radio version here.
ROM Version: 1.93.631.8 WWE
ROM Date: 10/30/08
Radio Version: 1.00.25.06
Protocol version: 52.31.25.13H
DIAM110 64M
SPL-1.93.0000
MicroP-Diam (LED) v11
I'm having issue with gps sat lock taking so long and I suspect this radio version is the culprit. I might unlock and flash the radio on my phone. I've been reading this forum religiously for past 6 days now trying to understand how to unlock and flash my phone. The more I read the more I get confused.
I have the same radio but am not having any problem acquiring satellite lock. By the way, this radio is already posted in the radio thread at the top of the Rom Development forum.. so I don't know why someone said it was not seen before.
I hope someone can find or make a backup for the first splash screen (Rogers red, VGA). We have backups for the OS, SPL, and radio so far.
Hi, why do you want to disable 3G? I thought it was a benefit?
raidendb said:
Just want to share this. But I'm pretty sure this has been tackled in the forums already.
Rogers branded HTC Diamond doesn't have the option to turn of 3G through band selection. I found this registry hack to enable band selection and now I can turn 3G off.
Rogers default registry - OFF
[\HKLM\Software\OEM\PhoneSetting\]
"ShowUMTSBandPage"=dword:0
Registry tweak to enable band changes
[\HKLM\Software\OEM\PhoneSetting\]
"ShowUMTSBandPage"=dword:1
Now you can go to >start>settings>phone>band tab and change band settings to your choice. I switched mine to just use GSM instead of auto which always connects on 3G.
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dsixda said:
Hi, why do you want to disable 3G? I thought it was a benefit?
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I know. It's just that sometimes I would select something which needs internet connection (ex; quickgps) accidentally and it will try to connect through 3G. My friend got billed by Rogers a hefty $3000++ for internet connection which he never used because he thinks he accidentally run internet in his phone and unknowingly left it. I like the option of enabling 3G only when I need it. Plus I read from this forum that 3G connection is one of the battery killers of Diamond.
dsixda said:
I have the same radio but am not having any problem acquiring satellite lock. By the way, this radio is already posted in the radio thread at the top of the Rom Development forum.. so I don't know why someone said it was not seen before.
I hope someone can find or make a backup for the first splash screen (Rogers red, VGA). We have backups for the OS, SPL, and radio so far.
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I'm using iGO8 and on my now sold EU/Asia Diamond it worked pretty well. Now with the Rogers branded HTC Diamond it takes like somewhere from 3-5 mins to lock to a sat. It sees the satellites but just wouldn't lock to them. My old diam got 1.00.25.05 radio in it and I'm thinking of flashing my phone with the same radio but keeping the Rogers ROM since there not that bad and as quick and stable as some cooked ROMs out there.
raidendb said:
I'm using iGO8 and on my now sold EU/Asia Diamond it worked pretty well. Now with the Rogers branded HTC Diamond it takes like somewhere from 3-5 mins to lock to a sat. It sees the satellites but just wouldn't lock to them. My old diam got 1.00.25.05 radio in it and I'm thinking of flashing my phone with the same radio but keeping the Rogers ROM since there not that bad and as quick and stable as some cooked ROMs out there.
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The Rogers one is 1.00.25.06.. wouldn't that be better, if not almost the same (version number)?
I'll go driving tonight to test mine
raidendb said:
I know. It's just that sometimes I would select something which needs internet connection (ex; quickgps) accidentally and it will try to connect through 3G. My friend got billed by Rogers a hefty $3000++ for internet connection which he never used because he thinks he accidentally run internet in his phone and unknowingly left it. I like the option of enabling 3G only when I need it. Plus I read from this forum that 3G connection is one of the battery killers of Diamond.
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$3000?? But I thought they max out the data plan at $100 if you go over. I'm on my first month so I haven't seen my first bill yet, but apparently I have used up a lot of voice call minutes even though I hardly used the phone to call!!! I leave my data on all the time so that I can check email every half hour.
dsixda said:
$3000?? But I thought they max out the data plan at $100 if you go over. I'm on my first month so I haven't seen my first bill yet, but apparently I have used up a lot of voice call minutes even though I hardly used the phone to call!!! I leave my data on all the time so that I can check email every half hour.
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I don't know. He doesn't have any data plan with rogers just voice so I guess he is like pay as you go for 3G.
And just like me with my old iPAQ PDA phone I get billed for data usage every now and then for something I've never used. The most I got was 40 bucks. Didn't bother complaining since my time getting on hold by customer service is worth more than $40.
hat gps application is used in your diamond?
raidendb said:
I got my Rogers branded HTC Diamond yesterday and so far it'll let me install any apps I want. Internet works through wifi and 3G. I can't find a way to turn off 3G connection. GPS works but acquiring sat lock takes like 5mins compared to my old EU/Asia Diamond which locks to sat in 30sec.
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Hi, I am about to buy the rogers diamond. Since GPS is my must have function in a smart phone, could you tell me what gps application is used in your diamond?
Do you know if iguidance 3.0 works in rogers diamond?
Thanks
FYI
I am using Tomtom 7.91 on Diamond, it has about 2-3 seconds lag, very annoying
I'm using iGO8. So far great that is if it locks to a sat signal. Nothing wrong with iGo8 but I think it the radio version that came with Rogers branded diam.
hpod06: when you say 2-3 sec lag, do mean that your position on the gps is 2-3 sec late from actual. If so then same here. And same with my other iPAQ gps phone. So I think it's not the gps apps thats causing this delay but the gps chip used by phone. Well the lag doesn't really bother me since gps apps announces your next maneuver before hand. Just need to get use to it.
dsixda said:
The Rogers one is 1.00.25.06.. wouldn't that be better, if not almost the same (version number)?
I'll go driving tonight to test mine
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I'm using Radio 1.00.25.08 on Roger's in Toronto...been quite happy with it's performance.
ROM v: 1.93.831.1 WWE
HTC Touch Diamond P3700
Avoid rogers diamond!
I had to exchange rogers diamond to iphone even though I am always not a apple fan.
For whatever reason, the performance of rogers diamond is unacceptable. i.e. Multiple applications running concurrently would just hang the system. It's like a single thread system
I called the customer service, and the customer service manager didn't explicitly deny the problem when i pointed out, which imply this could be a common issue to the rogers diamond. As I have been reading all the diamond review, bad performance seems a always an issue. Some said, it's being significantly improved after upgrading to the new firmware, but at least this is not the case on rogers diamond. Regardless the underlying reason, i highly doubt rogers did a real integration test on diamond!!
Hi,
I try to use skype under WIFI/UMTS/HSDPA, but I hear one word on three/four...I thought it was a Windows Mobile Software block but it is not (http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=474370), I thought it was a carrier lock, but it is not. I tried a Toshiba g900 (wich is slower than Kaiser) with the same carrier and Skype works very very well, have you ever tried Skype with the Kaiser? I have the lastest Hyper Dragon ROM but it is not a ROM issue because it did not work even with its original rom and radio rom, this thing is driving me crazy! I made tests just after an hard reset and with wifi, so it is not a network issue but a device problem, how can I check if everything is ok? Maybe a benchmark to test CPU? Or what else?
I've never been able to run Skype smoothly on the Kaiser regardless of ROM. It's just too slow.
Not happening here. Running Skype 2.5 on WM 6.0 original ROM or WM 6.1 3.02 and it works fine. Just did a test call while connected to WiFi and the voice quality is great.
What's the difference between us? Different Kaiser Model? Wrong radio version? Wrong what? Why me and kilrah cannot use skype smoothly and vcespon can? Someone tells that his KAiser is fast in opening apps etc. but mine it is not fast even to open the start menu...I want to go deeper in this, what can I do to know if our Kaiser has some problems?
Mine is pretty fast doing everything, just skype will always skip very badly, regardless of version. It'll miss sound bits here and there, sometimes even blank completely for several seconds. That is, totally unusable except just for text chat.
vcespon said:
Not happening here. Running Skype 2.5 on WM 6.0 original ROM or WM 6.1 3.02 and it works fine. Just did a test call while connected to WiFi and the voice quality is great.
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Could you say more? We must solve it
ROM and radio firmware version can make a lot of difference. WiFi performance / RAM available. After trying dozens of ROMs for months, I only use the original WM 6.0 with 1.27.15.32 radio, or the official 3.02 with 1.58.26.20.
WiFi connection works OK for me even in "best battery" setting. I've been streaming music from shoutcast.com for half an hour without problems.
Skype 2.5 does not seem to have any problem with a test call, I have not tested it on long conversations, thoug.
Hmm actually I forgot about that setting, with WiFi on "Best Performance" a test call works fine. I was usually on "Best Battery".
Just need not to be doing other things on the phone at the same time. Can forget about using BT headset as well.
Hey, want to flash my phone to the original HTC software just have a few questions
1. How do I back Up my phone so I can reinstall the orange software if i want
2. Has anyone done it? Did UMA still work??? or do you need the orange software to be able to connect to the organage network over wifi
3. Did anyone experience any problems or things not working
Damien82 said:
Hey, want to flash my phone to the original HTC software just have a few questions
1. How do I back Up my phone so I can reinstall the orange software if i want
Look and see if your rom has been dumped here:http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=483681
If it hasn't then read here how to dump your rom:http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=448776
2. Has anyone done it? Did UMA still work??? or do you need the orange software to be able to connect to the organage network over wifi
I have flashed a new rom if thats what you mean,connect to the orange network? do you mean the orange gprs? I have had no problems with gprs internet or connecting with wifi, you do lose the annoying i found unique pairing wifi thing,not too sure about the UMA thingy a bit new to the touch 3g myself.
3. Did anyone experience any problems or things not working
I have had no problems at all with my phone or the rom i am using.
I would like to see an orange rom dumped though because i forgot to dump mine before flash so would be handy
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Hope some of this may have helped you athough i am no expert
UMA is where you can turn off the side of the mobile that connects to the cell tower and just use and WIfI connection to connect to Oranage
Hi Guys,
I am coming from Symbian to Windows Mobile. I have a HTC Fuze and can't seem to figure a few things out.
1. In Nokia (Symbian) you can setup your email and other data services to use your home wi-fi when you are in home. When you are outside, it will use 3G/GPRS etc. automatically (once preferred access points are setup). I can't figure this out with HTC FUZE. Everytime I have to turn on and off the Wi-FI Connection (Connection Manager -> wi-fi ON or OFF). if I leave it on, it keeps popping up with networks that it finds. If I leave it Off, it doesn't use wi-fi to retrieve emails and other things when am at home. I am sure this should be easy... Help !!!
2. When I set my phone in Vibrate mode, it doesn't even play music through headphones. I have to set it "ON" mode for it to even play music. This is annoying. At work, I want the phone to be in vibrate mode but still listen to music through head phone every now and then and not worry about my phone ringing. Is there a simple fix? Am I missing something??
3. When the phone is in Vibrate mode, I would like it to vibrate for incoming emails. it does not do that.
4. What is the best recommended "TODAY" Screen plug-in/program for wm 6.5 other than the titanium one?
I am using NATF's Win 6.5 latest ROM.
I appreciate all your help.
Best,
venkss said:
Hi Guys,
I am coming from Symbian to Windows Mobile. I have a HTC Fuze and can't seem to figure a few things out.
1. In Nokia (Symbian) you can setup your email and other data services to use your home wi-fi when you are in home. When you are outside, it will use 3G/GPRS etc. automatically (once preferred access points are setup). I can't figure this out with HTC FUZE. Everytime I have to turn on and off the Wi-FI Connection (Connection Manager -> wi-fi ON or OFF). if I leave it on, it keeps popping up with networks that it finds. If I leave it Off, it doesn't use wi-fi to retrieve emails and other things when am at home. I am sure this should be easy... Help !!!
2. When I set my phone in Vibrate mode, it doesn't even play music through headphones. I have to set it "ON" mode for it to even play music. This is annoying. At work, I want the phone to be in vibrate mode but still listen to music through head phone every now and then and not worry about my phone ringing. Is there a simple fix? Am I missing something??
3. When the phone is in Vibrate mode, I would like it to vibrate for incoming emails. it does not do that.
4. What is the best recommended "TODAY" Screen plug-in/program for wm 6.5 other than the titanium one?
I am using NATF's Win 6.5 latest ROM.
I appreciate all your help.
Best,
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1) I think you can go to Settings>personal>Sounds&Notifications and turn off the found new network notifications on the notifications tab (you also may be able to settings>wifi and change whether it scans or not, scanning seems like it would drain the battery)
2) The volume screen usually (depends on rom) has two tabs, one for sounds, one for ringer, so you could have sounds but vibe instead of ringer. Other than some 3rd party service that switches the volume settings based on the headphone port, i think that's about as good as it gets.
3) In that same settings>personal>sounds menu, you can change the new email notification to vibrate or sound and vibrate or whatever. it has to include vibrate in that setting though to vibrate ever.
4) I like the old-school HTC Home, or similarly SPB PocketPlus or SPB Diary. If you're looking for something fancier, lots of people use the Touchflo 3d (which can work in 6.5) or SPB Mobile Shell (there's a demo of version 3 on their website)
Hope I helped some, I know the windows mobile limitations can be annoying, but they're pretty minor overall (imho). All things considered, I've been a big fan for years, you just need to use a lot of 3rd party apps and tools.
Good luck, finding XDA was probably the best thing I ever did for my WinMo phone, hope you have the same experience.
Thank you very much for your reply. I can't seem to find the setting that you mention for turning off wireless scanning. Is this because of the ROM?
Also, if I have both Data Connection and Wi-Fi connection enabled, and say for example run Opera, how do you know which connection it is using? How do we change/specify the connection that opera uses? I am just using Opera as an example... bigger question is emails.
venkss said:
Thank you very much for your reply. I can't seem to find the setting that you mention for turning off wireless scanning. Is this because of the ROM?
Also, if I have both Data Connection and Wi-Fi connection enabled, and say for example run Opera, how do you know which connection it is using? How do we change/specify the connection that opera uses? I am just using Opera as an example... bigger question is emails.
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Hmm, I think I may have made that setting up
As long as your email account is set to use your Internet Connection (versus Work Connection), which should always be the default, and when you first connected to your wifi, it should have asked something like "This networks connects to: <radio buttons> The Internet, Work Network". As long as everything is "The Internet" you should be good. I don't know how to double check what connection it is actually using except looking at the activity light on your access point, but it should always use wifi over cellular data if wifi is available.
As far as the scanning / battery life, the performance slider in wifi was all i could find. I just use the Comm Manager to toggle wifi as needed, but admittedly I don't use it alot. I could see it being annoying.
So the nokia would know when you were by certain wifi spots and connect, without killing the battery life completely by having wifi on 24/7? That's pretty sweet...
I wonder if it just low power scans Wifi AP's every 5 min or so, maybe someone could make a similar WinMo Service?
I know this is way off topic for this thread, but if anyone has a more raphael specific programming guide, I'd appreciate a link.
I'm taking a look at http://msdn.microsoft.com/en-us/library/aa457716.aspx
to see how hard programming is.
Both the headphone thing and the wireless thing would be nice to have as features. I'll see what I can do, but I've never developed for WinMo before, so absolutely no promises on anything =)
Thanks again, Friend.
You are right. I am not sure what happens in Nokia whether it does a low power scan or something... but when you turn off "Wireless scanning" in Nokia, it doesn't aggressively pop up available networks... thats all.
The way I used to do this in Nokia is through preferred access points. You would setup your wifi as your preferred and then the secondary access point would be AT&T network. Whether I use profimail (email client) or fring (chat voip client) they all had such a setting and somehow used wi-fi when I am at home without me doing anything.
BTW, the battery life did suck on my N95 8GB HTC so far has given me way better battery life than the Nokia.
For now, I will leave my WiFi On and see what happens.
The headphone thing is bizarre... I cannot adjust the phone volume only (1st slider bar on that screen) without adjusting the ringer volume. They move together on that screen. I am now in doubt of the ROM... so may be I will try just the plain vanilla Da_G ROM.
I need one general advice - For a newbie like me to winmo who is learning the basics of winmo, should I stay with stable, established ROMs than going to winmo 6.5 right now? should I go back to winmo 6.0? what do you think? Can you suggest a good ROM? I don't need/care to use the TF3D.
I get a lot of emails with attachments and one of the MAIN reason I came to HTC was the ability to edit/read/create Office documents. I will be happy if I can simply tune my HTC to be a good business user phone.
I appreciate your replies. Thanks much!!
venkss said:
Thanks again, Friend.
I need one general advice - For a newbie like me to winmo who is learning the basics of winmo, should I stay with stable, established ROMs than going to winmo 6.5 right now? should I go back to winmo 6.0? what do you think? Can you suggest a good ROM? I don't need/care to use the TF3D.
I get a lot of emails with attachments and one of the MAIN reason I came to HTC was the ability to edit/read/create Office documents. I will be happy if I can simply tune my HTC to be a good business user phone.
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As far as that goes, I've only used 6.5 for a few days, the deal breaker for me was SPB Diary not working (and SBSH Breeze, i tried both, they do the same thing). I NEED them for getting work done. For some reason it doesn't pull calendar data in 6.5, so I've always used 6.1 ROMS.
I'm actually recently back on EnergyRom2.0 from 4/16/09 (the version without TF3D is my favorite ROM ever, i think) but am tempted to tryout the Gen.Y R3 rom, which is a much newer 6.1 that's supposed to be stable, it's built off his popular HTC Diamond ROM and has the newer goodies like wifi data sharing built in. (i think)
Monx's ROMeos is on his site, you have to donate to get download access, but he has some very nice, fast, stable WM6.1 roms I've used before also.
I think at this point, at least with WM6.1, most of the established roms are fast and stable, it comes down to what you like bundled with it, and what looks good to you.
If you haven't seen it, I'd check out www.blownfuze.org, he talks more about 6.5 roms, and a LOT of other essentials for your phone. (in a very entertaining fashion)
Hello,
i hope you can help me.
I use a diamond with flashed 6.5 GSM rom.(ic8lue)
Rom works fine.Can do all, sms, phone, etc.
After a day, i can´t make a call,or are reachable.
If you call me, you get the message, user not available the the moment.
I have to put handy off / on in commmanager.
Realy dissapoining.
Because i can´t see, when handy is offline with gsm module.
I do all.Mtty methode.orginal rom, radio, hardspl!
I ´m to be at a loss.
Hope you can help me please, what i can do, to kill this problem.
Big big thanks
Bye
same problems
Guess it's happening here to. After wm 6.5 rom upgrade, GSM network became unreacheable. Got any ideas ?
djsven said:
Hello,
i hope you can help me.
I use a diamond with flashed 6.5 GSM rom.(ic8lue)
Rom works fine.Can do all, sms, phone, etc.
After a day, i can´t make a call,or are reachable.
If you call me, you get the message, user not available the the moment.
I have to put handy off / on in commmanager.
Realy dissapoining.
Because i can´t see, when handy is offline with gsm module.
I do all.Mtty methode.orginal rom, radio, hardspl!
I ´m to be at a loss.
Hope you can help me please, what i can do, to kill this problem.
Big big thanks
Bye
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smsouza said:
Guess it's happening here to. After wm 6.5 rom upgrade, GSM network became unreacheable. Got any ideas ?
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Did either of you change radio versions when you flashed these roms? You should make sure you are using the proper radio for your carrier.
Give your carrier a call and ask them if there is a firmware update or roaming list update you can download. I have cdma so we have PRL updates every so often so our phones know which cell towers to use for the best signal. Good Luck!