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Help Memory Shortage since FRF 72

Hey guys I am not sure if this has been discussed yet but I find that my default browser is eating up internal memory space. Twice today I receive a warning notifications stating insufficient memory and further check i found browser clocking at 28mb and also the secondary email application at 15 mb
Is this normal or is this another bug
By the way running unrooted nexus

It's known that the browser has a leak, first I've read about the email app though.

i have beem having this issue too. i'd rather have the other bug with some extra memory free
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Well its kinda annoying coz now I want even run flash based sites as the browser Juz consumes to much n I have to keep clearing data.
A real snag this one. Hope the official release is soon tho.

I couldnt install app updates because of insufficient memory right after 72 install. Im pretty dumbfounded. I guess this is the cause ?

Rusty! said:
It's known that the browser has a leak, first I've read about the email app though.
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so how do you get the memory back? cachemate?

With 2.1 my free memory was generally around 15-30 MB.
With 2.2 it's usually about 200+ MB
Problem solved

Text Message Rejected

I had an sms message and it got rejected saying theres low space. There was an icon saying I had low memory but I deleted an app, I checked phone memory and have 20mb free space. The icon went away but the message never came through so I dont know who it came from. What gives?

This seems obvious.doesn't it mean you didn't have memory when the message comes in
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I had an sms message and it got rejected saying theres low space. There was an icon saying I had low memory but I deleted an app, I checked phone memory and have 20mb free space. The icon went away but the message never came through so I dont know who it came from. What gives?
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jakeneal22 said:
This seems obvious.doesn't it mean you didn't have memory when the message comes in
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I have 20mb free on internal

Oh alright i don't know then. I would suggest trying handcent. It manages messages better when having lots. Are you on cyanogen?
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ermacwins said:
I have 20mb free on internal
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It's not enough. Opening extra browser window - and voila, not anymore.
Also, the message itself might be breaking the limit.
Free your memory. Use Apps2SD and Dalvik2somewhere.

Jack, you got me biting...
Dalvik2somewhere?
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I'm referring to the ability of Apps2EXT to move Dalvik to either CACHE or EXT partitions. Semi-joking

In cyan there is an option to keep messaging in memory to insure messages are not lost
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SMS rejection with Low Internal Memory
jakeneal22 said:
Oh alright i don't know then. I would suggest trying handcent. It manages messages better when having lots. Are you on cyanogen?
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I have been using Handcent for the longest and had to upgrade my SD card so I could move more apps to free up internal memory. I did get SMS rejection message due to low mem. After freeing up memory, the messages were not retrieved…but I could receive. Running MIUI

This is one of my biggest annoyances with Android. You could have 19mb free space, but the phone will reject an SMS message that MIGHT be 2kb in size. Then, there is absolutely no way to get that message back. It effectively destroys the message, leaving you with NO idea who it was from or what it said.
It would be great if there was a way to change the limit where the low space warning went off (like take it down from 20mb to 5mb or something).
I run around 25mb free space usually, but it never fails that I'll be browsing a large website, lose that free space, get the warning, then get a SMS rejection message. Infuriating.

Im using handcent
Enomther's TheOfficial - v2.12.4 rom
dont have much apps insatlled so didnt bother with apps2sd

[Q] Is Miui inherently unstable?

Every Miui rom I have tried on my many U9000-81 cincinnati bell phones has done this, When the browser or any app stalls, the phone will reboot. Is this a memory overflow causing this? Is it inherent in the phone? I am not a rom developer but this is the reason that I don't like the Miui Rom. First and foremost the phone should be stable. Sorry for the rant.

Sergekarol said:
Every Miui rom I have tried on my many U9000-81 cincinnati bell phones has done this, When the browser or any app stalls, the phone will reboot. Is this a memory overflow causing this? Is it inherent in the phone? I am not a rom developer but this is the reason that I don't like the Miui Rom. First and foremost the phone should be stable. Sorry for the rant.
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memmory is great issue with MIUI, many time its own lauuncher got freez because of memmory issue .... using different launcher over MIUI to overcome memmory isuue...

My phone rarely reboots on MIUI and I'm using go launcher and many background apps are also running, I'd suggest you try V6 by zeppelinrox

My phone always has more then 150mb free ram and find no reboot so far. Can you give me some tips to try to make miui reboot or some app names to try the stability?
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CacingKalung said:
My phone always has more then 150mb free ram and find no reboot so far. Can you give me some tips to try to make miui reboot or some app names to try the stability?
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CK what you use to make free 150 + ram for all time, Now I am using ADW launcher to counter memory problem but not that successful
@paarkhi was using V6 supercharger on RC2 after that forget to use it again ... run it again to check the results ....

V6 rejuvenates the phone in my case, can't say about others

vivekb said:
CK what you use to make free 150 + ram for all time, Now I am using ADW launcher to counter memory problem but not that successful
@paarkhi was using V6 supercharger on RC2 after that forget to use it again ... run it again to check the results ....
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I tried to avoid widgets in each desktop. Widgets will take more cpu and ram for them to work for background and foreground process.
I'm not using any additional tweak other than default rom tweak. I'm using ssLauncher and no widget in every desktop, that's make always 150+ free ram. This launcher is more smooth and light than miui default launcher and quite beautiful even without widget. Maybe not everyone comfortable with this launcher but this is what I looked for from long time ago, paper curl effect desktop change.

For More free RAM, you Guy's should try "RAM Manager" App. you can easily get more than +200 free MB of RAM. Max i got was around 260MB on my CM7.2, I have screen on my phone, i can't show you guy's because my Phone is stolen
Here is the Market link :- CLICK HERE
Free version should be ok because "Balance" Profile work's best for our device & you should run this app in a every while to Boost your RAM...!!

yashwantsingh said:
For More free RAM, you Guy's should try "RAM Manager" App. you can easily get more than +200 free MB of RAM. Max i got was around 260MB on my CM7.2, I have screen on my phone, i can't show you guy's because my Phone is stolen
Here is the Market link :- CLICK HERE
Free version should be ok because "Balance" Profile work's best for our device & you should run this app in a every while to Boost your RAM...!!
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Well unless an app like firefox has a memory leak there should be no issue with memory. And if it does have a memory leak bad enough to crash the OS, a memory manager will not have enough ram to run under that circumstance either. But why don't I have an issue like that with Cyanogenmod?

Sergekarol said:
But why don't I have an issue like that with Cyanogenmod?
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Because cm is light on memory

Sergekarol said:
Well unless an app like firefox has a memory leak there should be no issue with memory. And if it does have a memory leak bad enough to crash the OS, a memory manager will not have enough ram to run under that circumstance either. But why don't I have an issue like that with Cyanogenmod?
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You remind me with firefox. I stop using firefox several months ago because of memory leak of this app, make the OS reboot even I regularly update the app, but not remember what rom I was used. Since that time I never use firefox again, opera mobile take the place.
Normally the ram manager should not crash even with the memory leak of some apps, it should kill them when the memory reach the minimum free size limitation as we configure in minfree. From what you said, may be the configuration of this minfree will help the memory manager to breath a little deeper.
I think we should give this four values not to low in minfree:
- FOREGROUND_APP
- VISIBLE_APP
- SECONDARY_SERVER
- EMPTY_APP
But will decrease the chance to switch to other task, it will start over from the beginning for some apps.
Well... that what I thought.
I've to consider this for my future rom ports. But I hasn't found this issue in my current rom. I 'll try to install firefox and open many site on tabs.
Edited: Confirmed.... after using firefox with several webs on tabs opened, it got rebooted. But no reboot if using opera mobile.

paarkhi said:
Because cm is light on memory
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Makes sense. I read above that someone tries to keep 150 mb free and I have 771 mb free with my CM7 rom that I am using. Lots of free memory available.

Sergekarol said:
Makes sense. I read above that someone tries to keep 150 mb free and I have 771 mb free with my CM7 rom that I am using. Lots of free memory available.
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Our device ram only has 512mb. I think that was not free ram, that must be free internal nvm memory . I have 630mb free internal memory.
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Sergekarol said:
Makes sense. I read above that someone tries to keep 150 mb free and I have 771 mb free with my CM7 rom that I am using. Lots of free memory available.
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Ram and internal memory is different, what you are saying is internal memory and as CK said we only have 512mb but 352 mb shown

Sergekarol said:
Makes sense. I read above that someone tries to keep 150 mb free and I have 771 mb free with my CM7 rom that I am using. Lots of free memory available.
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He he he
Its a good joke bro. ...... person above mentioning 150 mb speaking about ram and you are speaking about internal memory. ..its 700 + for me too. ....
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CacingKalung said:
You remind me with firefox. I stop using firefox several months ago because of memory leak of this app, make the OS reboot even I regularly update the app, but not remember what rom I was used. Since that time I never use firefox again, opera mobile take the place.
Normally the ram manager should not crash even with the memory leak of some apps, it should kill them when the memory reach the minimum free size limitation as we configure in minfree. From what you said, may be the configuration of this minfree will help the memory manager to breath a little deeper.
I think we should give this four values not to low in minfree:
- FOREGROUND_APP
- VISIBLE_APP
- SECONDARY_SERVER
- EMPTY_APP
But will decrease the chance to switch to other task, it will start over from the beginning for some apps.
Well... that what I thought.
I've to consider this for my future rom ports. But I hasn't found this issue in my current rom. I 'll try to install firefox and open many site on tabs.
Edited: Confirmed.... after using firefox with several webs on tabs opened, it got rebooted. But no reboot if using opera mobile.
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What rom is this with?

vivekb said:
He he he
Its a good joke bro. ...... person above mentioning 150 mb speaking about ram and you are speaking about internal memory. ..its 700 + for me too. ....
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Duh I knew something sounded funny.

paarkhi said:
Ram and internal memory is different, what you are saying is internal memory and as CK said we only have 512mb but 352 mb shown
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OK So right now my phone has 104 avail out of 351. One tab opened in firefox now 97/351 5 tabs 102/351 6 tabs 98/351. Not seeing that Firefox is causing problems with CM7. This only happens with Miui as far as I can tell.

Is the problem With Firefox or Miui? Do other programs cause the same problem with Miui? Not Opera obviously. I personally love the look of Miui but reliability is key with me. I hate reboot problems.

Sergekarol said:
Is the problem With Firefox or Miui? Do other programs cause the same problem with Miui? Not Opera obviously. I personally love the look of Miui but reliability is key with me. I hate reboot problems.
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Problem is with launcher of MIUI, its really a RAM eater ......
over MIUI you can try other launcher and will see the difference
was using AWD an go on MIUI from some days really want to say never rebooted from then......
Also constantly getting RAM above 150 MB ....
AWD is preferred choice to get more while go with lots of customization option.
Also try V6 supercharger ....

[Q] How to make use of Sony Xperia T internal storage?

Hi there,
I'm pretty new to using Android so forgive me for any noobiness. I have a Sony Xperia T which I haven't rooted. Lately, when apps are trying to go through an update, I get a message telling me that there is insufficient internal storage. When I check my phone, I find that the device memory is almost full (with only 232 MB left) but the internal storage actually has 8.17GB left. So what I'd like to ask is whether there's a way for me to either move stuff to the internal storage (without affecting how my apps, etc. work) or, better still, to make the phone save things in the internal storage.
Kind regards,
Chrissy

You can move apps to SD to get some more storage, but imho 232MB is still quite a lot. You can also choose to remove the notification by long-pressing it and choose app-info or something like that.
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Mad Marty said:
You can move apps to SD to get some more storage, but imho 232MB is still quite a lot. You can also choose to remove the notification by long-pressing it and choose app-info or something like that.
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I don't have an SD card on my phone and there's still supposed to be 8.17GB worth of free storage that's actually on my phone. And 232MB is apparently not enough for my phone to allow the Google search app to update itself nor is it enough for me to download new apps, so removing the notification isn't gonna help...

The 8.17GB is all yours and cannot be utilized to install apps. The app installation space is limited. But what you can do is move some heavy apps such as games to internal storage and try your update.

thedisturbedone said:
The 8.17GB is all yours and cannot be utilized to install apps. The app installation space is limited. But what you can do is move some heavy apps such as games to internal storage and try your update.
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How do I move the stuff to internal storage (as opposed to it being saved on the device memory)? Is there a folder?

Settings -> Apps -> swipe to the right for Internal -> select apps that you want to move to Internal. That is actually also what I meant by move to SD
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Mad Marty said:
Settings -> Apps -> swipe to the right for Internal -> select apps that you want to move to Internal. That is actually also what I meant by move to SD
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Hello...I have installed some game.Game's Data is stored at Android/Obb in internal storage.But I also have an microSD with 16GB capacity,I want to move all data game to microSD card but no luck.So result is my phone always display notification about full storage....How can I move data game to microSD??? Thanks!

nghia3d said:
Hello...I have installed some game.Game's Data is stored at Android/Obb in internal storage.But I also have an microSD with 16GB capacity,I want to move all data game to microSD card but no luck.So result is my phone always display notification about full storage....How can I move data game to microSD??? Thanks!
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I havent tried this but for phones which come with large internal storage, I don't think it is possible to move to the SD card. You can remove the internal storage full notification if you want. Google for it.

Mad Marty said:
Settings -> Apps -> swipe to the right for Internal -> select apps that you want to move to Internal. That is actually also what I meant by move to SD
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OH THAT IS FANTASTIC! Thank youuuuuuuu!! I wish there was some sort of 'select all' rather than having to tick every one but still, AWESOME! Thank you thank you!!

Low memory

I keep getting a low memory window when I try uploading pictures there a cache cleaner I use but thats not working what do I do ??

Install DiskUsage from the play store. It will show you what is using most of the space on your phone and you can you can then use the "My Files" app to remove what you want. Also get an external memory card you can put on a keychain which you can plug into both your phone and a USB port on a PC/Mac to copy files around that you want to keep. Also having "just enough" free space is not enough. Your phone will be a lot faster if there is plenty of free space available on your phone. Uninstall apps you don't use.

KruseLudsMobile said:
Install DiskUsage from the play store. It will show you what is using most of the space on your phone and you can you can then use the "My Files" app to remove what you want. Also get an external memory card you can put on a keychain which you can plug into both your phone and a USB port on a PC/Mac to copy files around that you want to keep. Also having "just enough" free space is not enough. Your phone will be a lot faster if there is plenty of free space available on your phone. Uninstall apps you don't use.
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Its anew phone and I also debloated it iv hardly used any storage on it at all I'm not understanding why it's already low on memory with all the free room it has??

Maybe your debloating process disabled something dealing with memory management.

I would try undoing your debloat and see if it still does it...
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logical
I have a list of completed bloat I've already uninstalled and list of what's on my phone but I do not know how to send it or upload it to this website if you have an email I can send it to you at or you could email me

Warren1221 said:
I have a list of completed bloat I've already uninstalled and list of what's on my phone but I do not know how to send it or upload it to this website if you have an email I can send it to you at or you could email me
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Just re-bloat and let is know if the problem goes away first. If it does, then re-debloat only one thing at a time until the problem recurs. Then you will know what had to stay running (not be debloated) to fix the isue. It's not rocket science but it is tedious and you just need to stick with the process and be patient.

Really
About as useful as Google dude frfr

Warren1221 said:
I keep getting a low memory window when I try uploading pictures there a cache cleaner I use but thats not working what do I do ??
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Why would we look through your list? Undo it, reboot, and see if it still happens. If it doesn't then redo it slower and figure out which one breaks it.
If it does still happen after undoing the debloat and rebooting, then your phone is screwed as it doesn't happen to anyone else. Factory reset.
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no need to be a prick. dont have something Useful to add shut up.

That WAS useful, you ass. It gave you two next steps to try that will identify your problem and then resolve it.
Just because you don't want to do it, doesn't mean it isn't good advice.
Good luck with your problem.
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