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Can the Nook Color play videos encoded in 1024x600 and 2,000 kbits rate?

Now that I heard you can put Honeycomb 3.0 on the Nook Color, I am thinking of getting it today at B&N.
However, I will be using the device mainly for watching movies and I love to convert movies. I will be converting 720p .mkv movies to .avi format with 1024x600 resolution and 2,000 kbits rate to get the best video quality.
My question is: Can it play .avi files with 1024x600 resolution and 2,000 kbits rate super smooth on Honeycomb?

Earthbrain said:
Now that I heard you can put Honeycomb 3.0 on the Nook Color, I am thinking of getting it today at B&N.
However, I will be using the device mainly for watching movies and I love to convert movies. I will be converting 720p .mkv movies to .avi format with 1024x600 resolution and 2,000 kbits rate to get the best video quality.
My question is: Can it play .avi files with 1024x600 resolution and 2,000 kbits rate super smooth on Honeycomb?
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Looking at the Honeycomb thread:
Doesn't work:
-Sound (sadly! Despite my efforts the last hours I didn't get it working properly yet)
-DSP e.g. no hardware video decoding
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So that would seem to be a significant barrier to your plan ;-)!
In the basic 2.1, the recommendation is for MP4 (H.264) at 1,100 kbps. I recently watched Inception at that setting and it was perfect for the Nook Color.
Check out this thread regarding Handbrake settings for the Nook Color: http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=894165

for any kind of hi-res content, you'll want to use hardware accelerated playback. Unfortunately, the chip in the nook only supports a certain video codec and resolution. h.264 basic profile and a max of 800x480. 1100 kbps looks pretty good.
Any other codec or higher resolution will rely on the software renderer, and it will be very choppy.
I created a nook color preset for handbrake you might find helpful. It will convert your 720p movies to the highest quality the nook supports.

saeba said:
Check out this thread regarding Handbrake settings for the Nook Color: http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=894165
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You added the link to my thread while I was replying to this one.

MattZTexasu said:
You added the link to my thread while I was replying to this one.
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Yes, I went back and looked up your thread since I successfully used your presets and wanted to say thanks. They worked great and the results made a long flight from Denver to Orlando very enjoyable !

MattZTexasu said:
for any kind of hi-res content, you'll want to use hardware accelerated playback. Unfortunately, the chip in the nook only supports a certain video codec and resolution. h.264 basic profile and a max of 800x480. 1100 kbps looks pretty good.
Any other codec or higher resolution will rely on the software renderer, and it will be very choppy.
I created a nook color preset for handbrake you might find helpful. It will convert your 720p movies to the highest quality the nook supports.
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You guys just burst my bubble. If the max resolution that it can play is only 800x480, then I guess I will not be buying the Nook Color. Even my HD2 can play mpg4 file that is encoded in 800x480 with 2,000 kbps smooth as butter without problem. If the NC cannot play 1024x600 with 2,000 kbps, then what is the use?
I guess I will have to wait for the Xoom to come out.

800x480 looks great. The nook scales it up to 1024x600, and the pixel density is high enough that you see no pixels. It looks very smooth.

You do realize that the hd2 has a 1ghz snapdragon processor. While we only have an 800mhz stock that can be overclocked to something equivalent. Why would you expect it to do better than the hd2? I would say they would be the same. But if the difference is worth the extra $350 premium then go for it. 854x480 at 1100kbps looks amazing on the nook.

The biggest dissapointment with my Nook is the video playback. Its not horrendous on eclair, but I have absolutely no luck with it on these froyo builds. Probably going to go back to 2.1 soon just so I can at least view some videos again.

tangomonky said:
The biggest dissapointment with my Nook is the video playback. Its not horrendous on eclair, but I have absolutely no luck with it on these froyo builds. Probably going to go back to 2.1 soon just so I can at least view some videos again.
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There's no hardware video decoding on Froyo yet.

Mikroft said:
You do realize that the hd2 has a 1ghz snapdragon processor. While we only have an 800mhz stock that can be overclocked to something equivalent. Why would you expect it to do better than the hd2? I would say they would be the same. But if the difference is worth the extra $350 premium then go for it. 854x480 at 1100kbps looks amazing on the nook.
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I never thought of owning the Nook Color until I heard about being able to put Honeycomb on it. I prematurely got excited and thought that it can do good video playback since my HD2 is excellent at playing 800x480 file at 2,000 kbps encoding. I knew that it can be overclocked to become more powerful. If it can only do 854x480 at 1100 kbps then it is a big disappointment. Beauty is in the eye of the beholder. If 854x480 at 1100 kbps looks good to you, it may not look good to me because of possible pixelation. I want a device that can play full screen resolution with high bit rate. I know that it would require bigger memory card/bigger storage space and slightly consume more power but that is what I am willing to sacrifice.
Well, I guess I have to get either the Xoom or the G-Slate. I don't mind paying extra for it. Just put in some extra work time and I will get a device that I will be happy with.
I love gadgets and love to tinker with them and that is why I enjoy putting all kinds of available OS onto my HD2. I was just about buy the NC just to tinker with it but I guess I will wait until the great people at XDA can somehow get hardware video acceleration on the NC to be able to play videos at higher settings.
Thanks for all the info about the nook's video capability. It was very informative.

DSP support?
What are the chance the DSP will get supported in Froyo/Honeycomb?
So even with hardware acceleration we only get [email protected]
Mike

Video quality
Any idea if this would work better if the nook was oc'd to 1.1, I guess once the dsp is fixed maybe that and a 1.1 cpu will work.

While i do lov to play 720p videos on my captivate (its screens is 800x480) it is down scaling those videos... the main reason i do 720p is because thats what tubemate will let me download them as and still work..
That being said he 480p that the NC can so is still a very good picture.. Normal CTR TV's are only 480i dvd's are at 480p and they still look good on my 42" 1080p tv.. not as good as blu-ray but still good.. and thats stretched to 42" were talking about 7"
1080p 42in= 52.45 DPI
1680x1050 20in monitor= 99.06 DPI
NC running 800x480 at 7inch= 133.28 DPI
NC running 1024x600 at 7inch= 169.55 DPI
Now.. looking at those numbers.. so you REALLY need to run at 1024x600? even at the 800x480 your getting less pixelation then you do on a 42inch 1080p tv.. yes the NC is held ALOT closer.. but even so.. its still giving you DVD quiality picture in your hand on a 7inch screen..

The video playback is definitely disappointing. It sucks not being able to just download a video and just watch it.

I'm getting a bit lost from the conflicting opinions. I'm a lazy and VERY not fussy video viewer. My main use of my NC is to watch videos that were originally made for an iPhone.
Bottom line... Now that sound is working in honeycomb to the NC. am I going to be able to watch my simple iphone type videos on my NC if I take it up to honeycomb? Remember. I'm not at all fussy about quality as long as it isn't too terribly jerky.
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rpharvey said:
I'm getting a bit lost from the conflicting opinions. I'm a lazy and VERY not fussy video viewer. My main use of my NC is to watch videos that were originally made for an iPhone.
Bottom line... Now that sound is working in honeycomb to the NC. am I going to be able to watch my simple iphone type videos on my NC if I take it up to honeycomb? Remember. I'm not at all fussy about quality as long as it isn't too terribly jerky.
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From what i understand (and thats not much =) currently honeycomb still has NO hardware acceleration for video.. nither does froyo so the best video playing on a NC you can get is currently running a rooted stock rom.. encoded at 800x480 or below.. the iphone 3gs and older all have a screen size of 480x320 so they SHOULD work as long as they were encoded properly (right codec and such)

Although I understand the excitement, this seems like a very premature discussion. Despite the repeated statement that honeycomb is available on the NC, out is in fact not. What you are seeing is actually an SDK build. Software Developers Kit. For development. And the first SDK at that. You are essentially seeing an emulator running on the nook screen.
Before everyone goes nuts I know that is not technically correct, but it is as correct as saying we are running full honeycomb.
After an AOSP build is released we will see a more functional version and eventually probably see better integration with the video hardware. And for my final rain on this parade...I am a professional video content creator. And if you think you are able to see the difference between DVD quality and 2100 stream HD on a 4.3 inch screen, you are mistaken. Or have vision above that of mortal men.
For the record I owned an HD2, now use the Evo and also own a NookColor.
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ministersin said:
...I am a professional video content creator. And if you think you are able to see the difference between DVD quality and 2100 stream HD on a 4.3 inch screen, you are mistaken. Or have vision above that of mortal men.
For the record I owned an HD2, now use the Evo and also own a NookColor.
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Ok i'm confused by this part...
No one was really talking about the 4.3 inch screen..
ANYWAYS the dvd quality vs 2100 stream HD by that do you mean a 2100/kbps steam?
if thats the case then its not a surprise seeing as 2100/kbps is enough to stream at 480p.... which is dvd quality

Darkomen64 said:
Ok i'm confused by this part...
No one was really talking about the 4.3 inch screen..
ANYWAYS the dvd quality vs 2100 stream HD by that do you mean a 2100/kbps steam?
if thats the case then its not a surprise seeing as 2100/kbps is enough to stream at 480p.... which is dvd quality
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OP's original question was about "I will be converting 720p .mkv movies to .avi format with 1024x600 resolution and 2,000 kbits rate to get the best video quality."
Later after some responses he comments he gets better resolution on his HD2 (that is a 4.3" screen) so he will skip the nook.
You still point out a misunderstanding I had now that I go back which is that he is starting with a 720p source but ending up 1024x600. But really this is just makes my point stronger because then we are looking at an even smaller difference in the resolution.

Horrible H.264 decoding

I'm not sure that how many people at here know this fact.
Tegra 2's H.264 decoding is waaaay worse than Hummingbird(Galaxy S)
It cannot run any HD H.264 video HP.

Source?
Tegra2 can decode 720p at AVC HP and 1080p at AVC MP with reasonable/usually bitrates at 30p.
€dit: Just seen that u have the korean model, right? AFAIK the LG-Player isn't supporting the mkv-container,
allthough Tegra 2 would be up for the task (at 720p30 HP) as mentioned earlyer.

You will find out when you get O2X
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I think with VLC or RockPlayer you can probably see a difference

How does x264 perform?

I think its the same issue as Adam had with the video/audio desync. Its not a hardware limitation.

I don't get it. I've tried various videos and none of them work properly. However, the demo video files that were on the device (1080p) run perfectly. No frame-skipping at all.
Is there something I'm missing?

I was kind of baffled by this too.
Brilliant playback on the included 1080p files.
So i thought yay lets grab some 1080p trailers from youtube with tubemate.
But alass. not very smooth! Think its indeed the profile that does the trick. or in this case, doesnt.
Next thought. Ok rockplayer will help me out here!.
But i wasnt too impressed with rock on my galaxy s either!.
Loaded rock. but also very crappy. Which is when u think of it, pretty logical.
Why? No hardware support! Rock doesnt even remotely know what a tegra2 soc is. and in fact, NONE of all the video apps do.
So in stead of funky tegra2 hardware decoding, you get software playback.
Ive heard some rumors about nvidia developing an android video player for tegra but i dont know if this is true or not at all.
so unless someone makes a proper video playback app (which in my opinion is way over due already! no offence but theyre all crap if u ask me!) which supports hardware playback AND tegra2 soc, it wont improve very much.
My 2 cents
Ok some more info, apperently Tegra2 isnt very great with high profile encoded. baseline and main profiles should work. more testing to do. Also everything below 1080p high profile should kind of play properly. My eyes are on VLC for android and fingers crossed for them to bring tegra2 suppot and their own great codec sets

Check the Motorola Atrix forum, on XDA (sorry cant link from mobile app), they have basically given up on playing hd h264 files on tegra 2. Such a shame.
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Yes indeed. It sucks ass. I have the same unit but then from T-Mobile Netherlands. Video included works like a charm (ofcourse) but own added videos look like they are in slowmotion. 720p, 1080p doesn't mattter same issue.
Extra added flaw? When your record video in Full HD it does not play back on Full HD TV's or BD players. I checked why and found that it actually records in 1920x1088p!!!! Yes 1088P people.
FOTA updates are also not working for the T-Mobile branded unit. Comes back with validation error.

Tegra 2 limitation
Some search on the internet revealed that Tegra 2 supports fully h.264 main profile, but for high profile, it is only 720p 6MB/s, which is then not suitable for a BD. Anyway, I don't have the intention to fill in my 32 GB of storage with just one movie...
Recording in 1088p instead of 1080p is a bit more annoying, you think there could be a solution for that?
Tom

TheGoD said:
Source?
Tegra2 can decode 720p at AVC HP and 1080p at AVC MP with reasonable/usually bitrates at 30p.
€dit: Just seen that u have the korean model, right? AFAIK the LG-Player isn't supporting the mkv-container,
allthough Tegra 2 would be up for the task (at 720p30 HP) as mentioned earlyer.
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Yeah MVK-files can be played with other videoplayers on Market but I've read in reviews that it's awfully "laggy". Saw a video where they tried to play mvk in RockPlayer, i think it was, and damn... looked like 1fps!

I tried to play a mkv file yesterday with the build-in player which crashed my phone.
I installed qqplayer and am pretty satisfied with the result.

_7_ said:
I tried to play a mkv file yesterday with the build-in player which crashed my phone.
I installed qqplayer and am pretty satisfied with the result.
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What kind of mkv did you try? 1080p?

I keep saying its a software issue causing all these troubles, i have a Adam and since the latest update i saw a improvement on the video playback.
Once we get proper support for mkv it will be awsome

LeviathanPT said:
I keep saying its a software issue causing all these troubles, i have a Adam and since the latest update i saw a improvement on the video playback.
Once we get proper support for mkv it will be awsome
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Do you have a video of the adam playing back mkv?

You can search in the thread @ my sig for " Notion Ink Adam Qi Vs Motorola Xoom by Inspiron41 "
I can add that any file that i have MKV to be played has to have the extension changed to AVI and only QQPlayer can run them, if the sound quality is high more than 2 channels the fps rate will be low this happens with either 720p or 1080p. But if i try to run a MP4 file with 1080p it runs very smooth with audio and video sync, so for me its a issue with decoding of MKV.
Oh and the Adam is running froyo no multiprocessor support neither the video apps do.

[Q] Tab 8.9 and 10.1 different video performance?

I have the Tab 8.9 P7310 WiFi and the 10.1 P7500 3G.
I thought that both tabs share the same innards (aside from the obvious screen and 3G difference)...
But when I play a video the 10.1 plays it fine where the 8.9 gives me a stuttering experience.
Both tablets run stock HC3.2. Same effect with stock 3.1 on the 8.9...
What am I missing ? I'm confused...
Thanks for your thoughts.

Flip both Tabs to portrait mode. Watch the 10.1 start to struggle while the 8.9 does better.
It's a Honeycomb issue...but basically, the 10.1 is landscape biased, the 8.9 is portrait biased.

Interesting...
Did not know about this horizontal/vertical issue... Any chance to circumvent this?
So a Rom designed for the 10.1 should not have this issue on the 8.9?
Maybe the Overcome Rom?

I don't see a difference
Landscape or portrait mode: the video always stutters on the 8.9...
It drives me crazy, because I bought the 8.9 mainly for watching movies... Grrrrrrrrr...

what video player are you using? I use MoboPlayer and it doesn't stutter on my 8.9
Also that depends on the video, the tegra2 platform cannot handle AAC High profile videos.

It's not about the Tegra2 performance...
The Video plays fine on ALL players on the 10.1. Same Video on the 8.9 is almost unwatchable because of the stuttering.
Normally I use Dice Player or MX Video Player...
I did encode the Video especially for the Tegra platform. So all the H.264 parameters lie within the specifications...

I don't know if it applies to the model you are dealing with, but the ATT LTE 8.9 Galaxy Tab does not use a Tegra chip at all.
The new ATT LTE 4g 8.9 Galaxy Tab uses a 1.5 ghz dual core qualcomm snapdragon chip.
From what I have heard though, the Verizon version uses the same ol' tegra 2 1ghz dual core that is in all the rest.

That's because of the LTE...
The WiFi and 3G versions definitely use the Tegra2 chip...
I think the video performance of the qualcomm should be better...

steelrat74 said:
The WiFi and 3G versions definitely use the Tegra2 chip...
I think the video performance of the qualcomm should be better...
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i have had no issues (LTE)

i have my 8.9 wifi (not LTE) OC to 1.5 and i still get a choopy video in mkv
and i tried a lot of players with thier arm v7 codec

@sbtgn1: Can you compare it to the GTab 10.1? For me it's like having two very different machines...

Did some extensive video tests with my LTE 8.9 over the weekend.
This sucker is amazing, with hardware acceleration for mpeg4 based videos, I am able to play back 1080 bluray mkv rips that are between 7 and 10 gb's without problem, color me surprised!
I found BSPlayer to be the best player for me, mostly because it supports all the hardware acceleration in the LTE, and also supports browsing windows file shares right in the app itself.
BSPlayer is one of the only video apps that has built in file share access, and is the only one that would stream 10 gb+ files from my file server without constantly buffering and dropping frames.

BSPlayer is sure a...
... good player but the Gtab 8.9 LTE is based on different hardware as mentioned some posts above...
It's not utilizing the Tegra2 SOC.
My problem is the very different behavior of the 10.1 vs 8.9.
The 10.1 plays all my encoded videos perfectly whereas the 8.9 does only stutter...
Even SD content with h.264 main profile does not play okay...

Any more news about this? I am about to order a 8.9 wifi tab but this thread got me worried.

kallt_kaffe said:
Any more news about this? I am about to order a 8.9 wifi tab but this thread got me worried.
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Hi, you are in Sweden?? Then buy the SGT 8.9 LTE by Telia which is equal, to the hardware level, to the SGH-i957 AT&T is talking about modestone.
modestone says that the SGH-i957 AT&T is very very good to play videos.
Max

Nope...
kallt_kaffe said:
Any more news about this? I am about to order a 8.9 wifi tab but this thread got me worried.
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...the 8.9 still struggels with video... So I always use the 10.1 - what a shame...
Buy the LTE version if possible!!!

Ikaro said:
Hi, you are in Sweden?? Then buy the SGT 8.9 LTE by Telia which is equal, to the hardware level, to the SGH-i957 AT&T is talking about modestone.
modestone says that the SGH-i957 AT&T is very very good to play videos.
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Well, the only reason I'm considering buying one is that the Wifi versions of the 8.9 and 10.1 right now are on sale for €300 for the 8.9 version and the €350 for the 10.1 version. The 8.9 LTE is about €650.
I want the 8.9 for the smaller form factor but I'm surprised about this reports that it playback video worse than the 10.1. The hardware specs should be identical so that is very strange and unpexpected. Sounds like a software issue unless it really is a hardware difference.
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...the 8.9 still struggels with video... So I always use the 10.1 - what a shame...
Buy the LTE version if possible!!!
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LTE would be nice but too expensive. The 10.1 wifi goes for €350 but I worry that I may find it a bit to large.

kallt_kaffe said:
Well, the only reason I'm considering buying one is that the Wifi versions of the 8.9 and 10.1 right now are on sale for €300 for the 8.9 version and the €350 for the 10.1 version. The 8.9 LTE is about €650.
I want the 8.9 for the smaller form factor but I'm surprised about this reports that it playback video worse than the 10.1. The hardware specs should be identical so that is very strange and unpexpected. Sounds like a software issue unless it really is a hardware difference.
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LTE would be nice but too expensive. The 10.1 wifi goes for €350 but I worry that I may find it a bit to large.
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Unfortunately I think its hardware problem. Tegra 2 has a known problem of not being smooth when tab is held in portrait, all Tegra 2 tabs have this problem. Problem with our GT8.9 is that the screen is rotated 90 degrees so we have this problem in landscape.
And yes, the form factor of the GT8.9 is much better then 10.1

steelrat74 said:
... good player but the Gtab 8.9 LTE is based on different hardware as mentioned some posts above...
It's not utilizing the Tegra2 SOC.
My problem is the very different behavior of the 10.1 vs 8.9.
The 10.1 plays all my encoded videos perfectly whereas the 8.9 does only stutter...
Even SD content with h.264 main profile does not play okay...
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Sorry steel, in my SGT 10.1 only h.264 baseline profile videos play smooth (and a few other video in high profile).
Have you tried to play videos baseline profile in the SGT 8.9 to see how it behaves??
Max

Baseline Profile...
Ikaro said:
Sorry steel, in my SGT 10.1 only h.264 baseline profile videos play smooth (and a few other video in high profile).
Have you tried to play videos baseline profile in the SGT 8.9 to see how it behaves??
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... plays smooth on the 8.9 in 720p (haven't tried 1080p). But not using CABAC wastes a lot of hdd space... The movies are about 1/3 bigger...
But the difference is still night and day compared to the 10.1...
I just don't get it:
If the problem is related to screen orientation diffenrence between 10.1 and 8.9 shouldn't the 10.1 start to stutter when held in portrait? But that is not the case...

YouTube problems

Hi all,
I started out with the stock 3.2 ROM, I quickly switched to Overcom ROM 3.2. I was happy with it for about 8 months.
Then I decided to go to ICS and later JB.
Every ROM I've used so far has the problem that HD movies on YouTube don't play very well. Every few second it will stop for a fraction of a second, it's really annoying. The audio is never affected though. It happends when the video is small and when it's full-screen. The moment I switch from HD to HQ the problem is gone.
I tried about anything, even overclocking up to 1.5 GHz. doesn't change a thing. I'm pretty sure it's not the capabilities of the tablet, if I play 720p trailers on the IMDb app it plays all video's perfectly. Also, when I use the 3.2 Overcome ROM backup the problem is gone as well! I can't go back to 3.2! I love ICS and JB too much!
Are other people having this problem? Or does anyone knows the solution?
I was wondering if this has something to do with the kernel, so far I used the A1 kernel and currently I'm on 3.1.10 Cyanogenmod+ kernel and CyanogenMod 10, with Android 4.1.2

Again, from the Asus Transformer Forum about the Tegra 2 and HD content -.- :
"The Tegra2 chipset are designed as a mobile sollution chipset - to support web 2 standards. The highest encoding profile used here (Youtube 1080p) are 1080p baseline and this the Tegra2 chipset will both record and play with no troubles. As well as 720p baseline and main profile - but only upto L3.1 with some limitations. It doesnt matter which container is used (mkv, mp4, m4v, avi etc) and it doesnt matter if resolution are 1080p - its only a matter of the encoding profile used to encode the supported video format H264
Tegra2 will NEVER be able to decode High profile L4.1 encodes - it's not a software issue, neither in terms of Honeycomb or Nvidia libs, its simply a limitation of the abilities of the hardwaredecoder in the Tegra2 chipset and this will never change. It is also not a limitation in the Transformer specifically, but a limitation in ALL Tegra2 based tablets and mobilephones.
This is the same reason why some mediaplayers like the Boxee Box that was originally intended to use the Tegra2 moved on to an Intel chipset before launch.
In short the Tegra2 chipset will support playback of videos encoded in 1080p or 720p resolution, using the H264 video codec and AAC audio codec - as long as the video are encoded after the baseline profile standard
It will not now or ever - play 1080p/720p encodes encoded after the high profile standard."
Youtube HD is not encoded as it has to be for Tegra2 chipsets to play without stutters..
Next time, please serach the forum, there has been several threads about hd content.

Ncyde47 said:
Again, from the Asus Transformer Forum about the Tegra 2 and HD content -.- :
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Next time, please serach the forum, there has been several threads about hd content.
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While I agree the issue was mentioned before (it's even on my faq ICS), none of your reply addresses the observation, made by several folks on this board, that certain (youtube) HD videos played fine in HD, but stutter in ICS. Or did I miss something?
I read a suggestion somewhere, that video would stutter less in ICS (correction: jelly bean) if developer USB debugging mode is off, but I didn't see a difference...
Edit: link http://forum.xda-developers.com/showpost.php?p=33994833&postcount=2798 and http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?p=33996486#post33996486 (for cm10)
Edit: an earlier version of this post spelled "fools" where I meant "folks". Darn auto suggest :-\
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Well, i have to admit that youtube hd videos did not play fluently on HC for me. Therefore I think that the android version or kernel doesnt matter for decoding. I might be wrong though..
With that being said, i think that there is no solution to get it fixed.
Btw that USB debugging thing does not work for me as well
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Added a link and an important spelling correction to my previous post

http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=1869056
Thanks Ncyde47 for that insight..
I had issues with prefetch not working with latest youtube version and had installed an old apk which was working good.

Galaxy Tab S 10.5 and 10 bit videos

Hi
Please somebody confirm is Samsung Galaxy Tab S 10.5 capable of playing 1080p 10 bit (mostly anime) videos?
(please also include info what player you have used, mode of playback, hardware, sowftware, version of a tablet etc)
I am really interested in buying this tablet and the screen is just gorgeous but I am also an anime fan and would like to watch my anime in the highest possible quality on it.
Thanks
Ed

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Hi
Please somebody confirm is Samsung Galaxy Tab S 10.5 capable of playing 1080p 10 bit (mostly anime) videos?
(please also include info what player you have used, mode of playback, hardware, sowftware, version of a tablet etc)
I am really interested in buying this tablet and the screen is just gorgeous but I am also an anime fan and would like to watch my anime in the highest possible quality on it.
Thanks
Ed
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Bump!
I'm considering getting one of the Tabs to avoid carrying my -huge- laptop to watch stuff in other rooms. Also, maybe there's a difference between exynos vs snapdragon regarding video playback capability. Any input appreciated!
And just to confirm... from what I've been reading, T700=Exynos and T705=Snapdragon? there's no T705-Exynos based?

Provinomico said:
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I'm considering getting one of the Tabs to avoid carrying my -huge- laptop to watch stuff in other rooms. Also, maybe there's a difference between exynos vs snapdragon regarding video playback capability. Any input appreciated!
And just to confirm... from what I've been reading, T700=Exynos and T705=Snapdragon? there's no T705-Exynos based?
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I have yet to see the first Snapdragon for the Tab S series, all of them have been Exynos, i believe that they might use Snapdragon in the NA models to come around november to Verizon and T-Mobile but right now, the LTE and WiFi versions T700-705-800 and 805 are using Exynos.
Video playback has been smooth on my T705 (lossless 1080 flac).

Satorikn said:
I have yet to see the first Snapdragon for the Tab S series, all of them have been Exynos, i believe that they might use Snapdragon in the NA models to come around november to Verizon and T-Mobile but right now, the LTE and WiFi versions T700-705-800 and 805 are using Exynos.
Video playback has been smooth on my T705 (lossless 1080 flac).
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So T700 is Exynos-wifi, and T705 Exynos-LTE.... if they finally roll out Snapdragon based TABs, there should be a new model number, right?
I tried a Hi10P video on a Snapdragon600 based S4 mobile and playback was very choppy -using BSPlayer-, do you know if there's 10bit HW decoding support on the Exynos running the new TABs?

Provinomico said:
So T700 is Exynos-wifi, and T705 Exynos-LTE.... if they finally roll out Snapdragon based TABs, there should be a new model number, right?
I tried a Hi10P video on a Snapdragon600 based S4 mobile and playback was very choppy -using BSPlayer-, do you know if there's 10bit HW decoding support on the Exynos running the new TABs?
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tried some 10bit with mxplayer and that was choppy on the 10.5" tab s

heatfire said:
tried some 10bit with mxplayer and that was choppy on the 10.5" tab s
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What player were you using? SW or HW decoding? Prolly in SW decoding mode any of these won't be able to produce smooth playback and from what a quick reading on the specs and a couple of sites, the Mali GPU on the Exynos SoC would not support 10bit video decoding... so if I'm not wrong, there goes my hope...

Provinomico said:
What player were you using? SW or HW decoding? Prolly in SW decoding mode any of these won't be able to produce smooth playback and from what a quick reading on the specs and a couple of sites, the Mali GPU on the Exynos SoC would not support 10bit video decoding... so if I'm not wrong, there goes my hope...
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There's no GPU, PC or mobile, that supports hi10p decoding. That said, I have a hard time believing that the Tab S wouldn't be able to play 1080p hi10p videos smoothly as my old Nexus 10 with a far slower CPU almost pulls that off and my Z1c with a Snapdragon 800 plays them smoothly (granted, it's a much lower resolution screen but still) with MX Player.
I've put a test video in the link below that people can try to see if it plays smoothly. MX Player is recommended.
http://www.fileswap.com/dl/4GAia6Pop/

Lol full metal alchemist... love the anime... it play fine on my tab s 8.4 with bsplayer and its extra 7arm codec.
Mxplayer was ok last time but now since they lose some codec due to licensing issue some of the high quality video just play choppy since its use sw mode only.
Btw the tab s also lacking some codec. Dont know why samsung left out some of the codec although the device are capable.
Sent from my SM-T705 using Tapatalk

Provinomico said:
What player were you using? SW or HW decoding? Prolly in SW decoding mode any of these won't be able to produce smooth playback and from what a quick reading on the specs and a couple of sites, the Mali GPU on the Exynos SoC would not support 10bit video decoding... so if I'm not wrong, there goes my hope...
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HW wasnt supported. so it was SW.

It's working just fine on my tab 10.5 exynos processor. However i had to turn off all the codec codes and run on pure hardware acceleration for it to work. Goes to show the exynos processor can play videos just fine without any hardware codec or software aid.
CazeW said:
There's no GPU, PC or mobile, that supports hi10p decoding. That said, I have a hard time believing that the Tab S wouldn't be able to play 1080p hi10p videos smoothly as my old Nexus 10 with a far slower CPU almost pulls that off and my Z1c with a Snapdragon 800 plays them smoothly (granted, it's a much lower resolution screen but still) with MX Player.
I've put a test video in the link below that people can try to see if it plays smoothly. MX Player is recommended.
http://www.fileswap.com/dl/4GAia6Pop/
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CazeW said:
There's no GPU, PC or mobile, that supports hi10p decoding. That said, I have a hard time believing that the Tab S wouldn't be able to play 1080p hi10p videos smoothly as my old Nexus 10 with a far slower CPU almost pulls that off and my Z1c with a Snapdragon 800 plays them smoothly (granted, it's a much lower resolution screen but still) with MX Player.
I've put a test video in the link below that people can try to see if it plays smoothly. MX Player is recommended.
http://www.fileswap.com/dl/4GAia6Pop/
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I wouldn't know about the Mali GPU capabilities, but I also thought a Snapdragon800 should be able to playback Hi10p, hence I was interested on getting the 'supposed' Snapdragon version of the Tab S 8.4.
The new Mali -T764- though, seems to support 10bit decoding and H265/HEVC, so I was kinda hoping the T628 Mali would do also 10bit decoding...

NixxonExxo said:
It's working just fine on my tab 10.5 exynos processor. However i had to turn off all the codec codes and run on pure hardware acceleration for it to work. Goes to show the exynos processor can play videos just fine without any hardware codec or software aid.
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I hadn't read you... so you got that Hi10p sample that CazeW posted playing back smoothly? which player did you use?

That clip played fine on my 10.5 thru BS Player but SW mode only. All my 1080p rips play in HW mode so not sure... This is still a great device for multimedia.

I use a media player that is banned by ios and android called xbmc or soon to be renamed to kodi. The best media player ever!
It runs great on either software or hardware accelerometer alone.
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I hadn't read you... so you got that Hi10p sample that CazeW posted playing back smoothly? which player did you use?
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Where do you guys get these 10bit Anime series from. I normally stream them from Anime.fullfights so quality is never really HD (it says 720p but most likely a bit compressed)

Rage1ofakind said:
Where do you guys get these 10bit Anime series from. I normally stream them from Anime.fullfights so quality is never really HD (it says 720p but most likely a bit compressed)
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General torrent sites or dedicated anime trackers.
BTW i just bought a Tab s8.4 today, and tried the sample straight away using vlc, smooth playback, will try with the video I could not play with an galaxy s4, which is higher bitrate, if it plays back I would be officially in love with the thing.

No luck, tried a high bitrate video (with embedded subtitles), the same I used on the Galaxy S4, and it plays better but is still unwatchable Both with VLC and KmPlayer. I will install xbmc and BSPlayer tonight but I fear the results will be the same :/

Provinomico said:
No luck, tried a high bitrate video (with embedded subtitles), the same I used on the Galaxy S4, and it plays better but is still unwatchable Both with VLC and KmPlayer. I will install xbmc and BSPlayer tonight but I fear the results will be the same :/
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Did yoiu try MX player pro? Also you if u give me a link I could test it out on my custom rom

eousphoros said:
Did yoiu try MX player pro? Also you if u give me a link I could test it out on my custom rom
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Hi eousphoros, last night I tried with MX Player, HW+ mode did not work, but software&multi core mode seemed to play it back about fine, not absolutely perfect, but watchable, as soon as I flash a custom kernel a play with settings a bit I'm sure it will improve the missing -tiny- bit. Thanks for the tip. Will try also BS-Player&XBMC.