[Q] Tab 8.9 and 10.1 different video performance? - Galaxy Tab 8.9 General

I have the Tab 8.9 P7310 WiFi and the 10.1 P7500 3G.
I thought that both tabs share the same innards (aside from the obvious screen and 3G difference)...
But when I play a video the 10.1 plays it fine where the 8.9 gives me a stuttering experience.
Both tablets run stock HC3.2. Same effect with stock 3.1 on the 8.9...
What am I missing ? I'm confused...
Thanks for your thoughts.

Flip both Tabs to portrait mode. Watch the 10.1 start to struggle while the 8.9 does better.
It's a Honeycomb issue...but basically, the 10.1 is landscape biased, the 8.9 is portrait biased.

Interesting...
Did not know about this horizontal/vertical issue... Any chance to circumvent this?
So a Rom designed for the 10.1 should not have this issue on the 8.9?
Maybe the Overcome Rom?

I don't see a difference
Landscape or portrait mode: the video always stutters on the 8.9...
It drives me crazy, because I bought the 8.9 mainly for watching movies... Grrrrrrrrr...

what video player are you using? I use MoboPlayer and it doesn't stutter on my 8.9
Also that depends on the video, the tegra2 platform cannot handle AAC High profile videos.

It's not about the Tegra2 performance...
The Video plays fine on ALL players on the 10.1. Same Video on the 8.9 is almost unwatchable because of the stuttering.
Normally I use Dice Player or MX Video Player...
I did encode the Video especially for the Tegra platform. So all the H.264 parameters lie within the specifications...

I don't know if it applies to the model you are dealing with, but the ATT LTE 8.9 Galaxy Tab does not use a Tegra chip at all.
The new ATT LTE 4g 8.9 Galaxy Tab uses a 1.5 ghz dual core qualcomm snapdragon chip.
From what I have heard though, the Verizon version uses the same ol' tegra 2 1ghz dual core that is in all the rest.

That's because of the LTE...
The WiFi and 3G versions definitely use the Tegra2 chip...
I think the video performance of the qualcomm should be better...

steelrat74 said:
The WiFi and 3G versions definitely use the Tegra2 chip...
I think the video performance of the qualcomm should be better...
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i have had no issues (LTE)

i have my 8.9 wifi (not LTE) OC to 1.5 and i still get a choopy video in mkv
and i tried a lot of players with thier arm v7 codec

@sbtgn1: Can you compare it to the GTab 10.1? For me it's like having two very different machines...

Did some extensive video tests with my LTE 8.9 over the weekend.
This sucker is amazing, with hardware acceleration for mpeg4 based videos, I am able to play back 1080 bluray mkv rips that are between 7 and 10 gb's without problem, color me surprised!
I found BSPlayer to be the best player for me, mostly because it supports all the hardware acceleration in the LTE, and also supports browsing windows file shares right in the app itself.
BSPlayer is one of the only video apps that has built in file share access, and is the only one that would stream 10 gb+ files from my file server without constantly buffering and dropping frames.

BSPlayer is sure a...
... good player but the Gtab 8.9 LTE is based on different hardware as mentioned some posts above...
It's not utilizing the Tegra2 SOC.
My problem is the very different behavior of the 10.1 vs 8.9.
The 10.1 plays all my encoded videos perfectly whereas the 8.9 does only stutter...
Even SD content with h.264 main profile does not play okay...

Any more news about this? I am about to order a 8.9 wifi tab but this thread got me worried.

kallt_kaffe said:
Any more news about this? I am about to order a 8.9 wifi tab but this thread got me worried.
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Hi, you are in Sweden?? Then buy the SGT 8.9 LTE by Telia which is equal, to the hardware level, to the SGH-i957 AT&T is talking about modestone.
modestone says that the SGH-i957 AT&T is very very good to play videos.
Max

Nope...
kallt_kaffe said:
Any more news about this? I am about to order a 8.9 wifi tab but this thread got me worried.
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...the 8.9 still struggels with video... So I always use the 10.1 - what a shame...
Buy the LTE version if possible!!!

Ikaro said:
Hi, you are in Sweden?? Then buy the SGT 8.9 LTE by Telia which is equal, to the hardware level, to the SGH-i957 AT&T is talking about modestone.
modestone says that the SGH-i957 AT&T is very very good to play videos.
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Well, the only reason I'm considering buying one is that the Wifi versions of the 8.9 and 10.1 right now are on sale for €300 for the 8.9 version and the €350 for the 10.1 version. The 8.9 LTE is about €650.
I want the 8.9 for the smaller form factor but I'm surprised about this reports that it playback video worse than the 10.1. The hardware specs should be identical so that is very strange and unpexpected. Sounds like a software issue unless it really is a hardware difference.
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steelrat74 said:
...the 8.9 still struggels with video... So I always use the 10.1 - what a shame...
Buy the LTE version if possible!!!
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LTE would be nice but too expensive. The 10.1 wifi goes for €350 but I worry that I may find it a bit to large.

kallt_kaffe said:
Well, the only reason I'm considering buying one is that the Wifi versions of the 8.9 and 10.1 right now are on sale for €300 for the 8.9 version and the €350 for the 10.1 version. The 8.9 LTE is about €650.
I want the 8.9 for the smaller form factor but I'm surprised about this reports that it playback video worse than the 10.1. The hardware specs should be identical so that is very strange and unpexpected. Sounds like a software issue unless it really is a hardware difference.
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LTE would be nice but too expensive. The 10.1 wifi goes for €350 but I worry that I may find it a bit to large.
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Unfortunately I think its hardware problem. Tegra 2 has a known problem of not being smooth when tab is held in portrait, all Tegra 2 tabs have this problem. Problem with our GT8.9 is that the screen is rotated 90 degrees so we have this problem in landscape.
And yes, the form factor of the GT8.9 is much better then 10.1

steelrat74 said:
... good player but the Gtab 8.9 LTE is based on different hardware as mentioned some posts above...
It's not utilizing the Tegra2 SOC.
My problem is the very different behavior of the 10.1 vs 8.9.
The 10.1 plays all my encoded videos perfectly whereas the 8.9 does only stutter...
Even SD content with h.264 main profile does not play okay...
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Sorry steel, in my SGT 10.1 only h.264 baseline profile videos play smooth (and a few other video in high profile).
Have you tried to play videos baseline profile in the SGT 8.9 to see how it behaves??
Max

Baseline Profile...
Ikaro said:
Sorry steel, in my SGT 10.1 only h.264 baseline profile videos play smooth (and a few other video in high profile).
Have you tried to play videos baseline profile in the SGT 8.9 to see how it behaves??
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... plays smooth on the 8.9 in 720p (haven't tried 1080p). But not using CABAC wastes a lot of hdd space... The movies are about 1/3 bigger...
But the difference is still night and day compared to the 10.1...
I just don't get it:
If the problem is related to screen orientation diffenrence between 10.1 and 8.9 shouldn't the 10.1 start to stutter when held in portrait? But that is not the case...

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Wifi tab and 1080p

Hi, can the wifi only model playback 1080p media like the ones with a cellular radio? I read that Samsung downgraded the GPU on the wifi tab, does that affect video playback?
Ayle said:
Hi, can the wifi only model playback 1080p media like the ones with a cellular radio? I read that Samsung downgraded the GPU on the wifi tab, does that affect video playback?
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Yup, look around for threads on the matter, the wifi one can't even handle h264 video... and goes up to 720p for mp4 ( keep in mind that DivX is mp4).
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What was Samsung thinking?!

Galaxy tab 8.9 vs 7 plus

Sorry guys for using this section but it is the only one for the 8.9
I would like to buy one tablet but I'm wavering between the 8.9 and the new 7 plus
the 8.9 is cheaper but the 7 plus can make phone call and got a microsd slot
help me to make this choice
thanks
For what will the tablet be used? Will you still carry a separate phone?
usually I carry another phone but in summer a bring on beach just the galaxy tab 7
If you plan using it as an extension then I think you already have made your mind.
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+1 i will go for 8.9 for it bigger screen
I use my Nokia n9 as a phone, my MacBook air as a laptop, my tab 8.9 as a reference material viewer. I think I wouldn't be happy with a 7" screen, my physics books won't view well.
Then again I can't tell until I try it :-D
make phone call is a good features sd the sd slot
I think I will take the 7 plus (7.7 would be perfect but probably will be out on 2012)
I had a 10.1, but sold it for a 7.0 plus, and highly recommend it. The Exynos is screaming fast compared to the Tegra 2. This is especially obvious while playing video.
Video is truly night and day, I can't believe how lousy the Tegra is for that. The 7+ will play any and all video I threw at it. But dang, the size of the 8.9 is perfect. Hopefully Samsung will give it the upgrade and the best of both worlds.
guthrien said:
Video is truly night and day, I can't believe how lousy the Tegra is for that. The 7+ will play any and all video I threw at it. But dang, the size of the 8.9 is perfect. Hopefully Samsung will give it the upgrade and the best of both worlds.
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I agree on all counts. That would be the perfect tablet.
bill.allrobots.org said:
I had a 10.1, but sold it for a 7.0 plus, and highly recommend it. The Exynos is screaming fast compared to the Tegra 2. This is especially obvious while playing video.
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Does it play RMVB videos well? esp those >800MB?
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Does it play RMVB videos well? esp those >800MB?
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I am a happy owner of an unrooted 7+ and I have yet to run into a 720p video in any codec or bitrate that the little bastard could not run perfectly smooth. I have no RMVB videos but I can't imagine it will have huge issues but if you send me a link for such a video then I will be happy to test it out for you.
As for the topic of the thread:
I have the 10.1 as well and the Tegra 2 is a travesty. It is a horrid and terrible product which should never have been allowed to be used as the reference chip for Honeycomb. For this reason I went with the 7+. If anyone thinks everyone with a 10.1 is cheerful with a Tegra 2 running then you have not watched the threads prior to the nation wide USA release of the 10.1. Even after the 10.1v was confirmed as using the Tegra 2 we still held out a glimmer of hope for the Exynos 4210 and a MicroSD slot. The 7+ has both of these and I even found it at 350$ with 3.5% sales tax at Microcenter.
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I have the 10.1 as well and the Tegra 2 is a travesty.
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Does this issue only happen during video playback or any graphics in general? I thought Tegra 2 is supposed to be very good! :|
I do notice some lag even when using the homescreen in 10.1, din test 7+ enough to tell, after I have tested 10.1 and 8.9, the 7+ seems just too small! And I am worrying about the future support (ICS) for 7+ as it seems the odd tab with that resolution. As with Samsung products, the ones that gets updated are those that are popular, and looking at how thing goes, seems like 10.1/8.9 is (going to be) more popular.
10.1 with the HW accelerated homescreen roms works fairly well unless you want to watch video. Honestly I only want a tablet that can play the stuff on my computer while I lay in bed and the B&N Nook Tablet almost managed it but the 7+ got it down 100%. Holding my 10.1 after using the 7+ was fun though. So huge in comparison.
koreanschoolkid said:
10.1 with the HW accelerated homescreen roms works fairly well unless you want to watch video. Honestly I only want a tablet that can play the stuff on my computer while I lay in bed and the B&N Nook Tablet almost managed it but the 7+ got it down 100%. Holding my 10.1 after using the 7+ was fun though. So huge in comparison.
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I feel the exact same way about my (ex) NT. But the locked bootloader killed it for me, and I'm back to the search for the optimal tablet for me. How would you say the 7+'s screen compares to the NT? I really loved that I could sit outside and see everything perfectly on that screen. Would you say it's worth the extra cash and not waiting for the 7.7 (assuming the 7.7 isn't actually $700, as speculated)?
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I feel the exact same way about my (ex) NT. But the locked bootloader killed it for me, and I'm back to the search for the optimal tablet for me. How would you say the 7+'s screen compares to the NT? I really loved that I could sit outside and see everything perfectly on that screen. Would you say it's worth the extra cash and not waiting for the 7.7 (assuming the 7.7 isn't actually $700, as speculated)?
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I just returned my NT and picked up the 7+. No regrets at all! I was betting on the 7.7 not being out for a while and being too expensive. so I went ahead and took the plunge. If the 7.7 comes out soon and is reasonably priced, I'll throw the 7+ on eBay, and eat the difference.
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I just returned my NT and picked up the 7+. No regrets at all! I was betting on the 7.7 not being out for a while and being too expensive. so I went ahead and took the plunge. If the 7.7 comes out soon and is reasonably priced, I'll throw the 7+ on eBay, and eat the difference.
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Not to be annoying and reiterate my question, but how does the screen compare? More specifically, how does it look outdoors? I really want to buy a replacement tablet, but great visibility in all lighting conditions is a huge factor. Reviews that I've read so far haven't really addressed this, with even some mildly negative comments about the 7+ screen.
It's a gloss screen so I doubt it would be perfect outdoors but it's not horrible in my limited experience. It's a bit darker than the screen in the 8.9 or 10.1 but it doesn't have viewing angle problems it's still a Samsung screen. Just naturally a tad darker at default.
I used to own the 1st Galaxy TAB P1000; it has no problem handling *.MKV files even with size more than 2 GB. Likewise for the 8.9. But for RMVB files it is a challenge. I tried the same files on a IPAD2. It faces the same problem . There are jerkiness . Try to get the files from www.33md.com
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I am a happy owner of an unrooted 7+ and I have yet to run into a 720p video in any codec or bitrate that the little bastard could not run perfectly smooth. I have no RMVB videos but I can't imagine it will have huge issues but if you send me a link for such a video then I will be happy to test it out for you.
As for the topic of the thread:
I have the 10.1 as well and the Tegra 2 is a travesty. It is a horrid and terrible product which should never have been allowed to be used as the reference chip for Honeycomb. For this reason I went with the 7+. If anyone thinks everyone with a 10.1 is cheerful with a Tegra 2 running then you have not watched the threads prior to the nation wide USA release of the 10.1. Even after the 10.1v was confirmed as using the Tegra 2 we still held out a glimmer of hope for the Exynos 4210 and a MicroSD slot. The 7+ has both of these and I even found it at 350$ with 3.5% sales tax at Microcenter.
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Using MOBOPLAYER, I don't find that the 8.9 is having problem handling most videos. I still do not understand why all of you are saying it can't play videos well?
koreanschoolkid said:
10.1 with the HW accelerated homescreen roms works fairly well unless you want to watch video. Honestly I only want a tablet that can play the stuff on my computer while I lay in bed and the B&N Nook Tablet almost managed it but the 7+ got it down 100%. Holding my 10.1 after using the 7+ was fun though. So huge in comparison.
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Does it play RMVB videos well? esp those >800MB?
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RealPlayer formats? Seriously? I haven't had a RealPlayer video in years, so I have no idea.
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Palary said:
I used to own the 1st Galaxy TAB P1000; it has no problem handling *.MKV files even with size more than 2 GB. Likewise for the 8.9. But for RMVB files it is a challenge. I tried the same files on a IPAD2. It faces the same problem . There are jerkiness . Try to get the files from www.33md.com
Using MOBOPLAYER, I don't find that the 8.9 is having problem handling most videos. I still do not understand why all of you are saying it can't play videos well?
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Maybe your app is better, or maybe your videos are lower resolution. My 10.1 (with a handful of apps I tried) barfed on 1080p pretty hard.

[Q] HD content playback 8.9

Ok i'm a touch confused and on the cusp of blowing my bonus on the 8.9!
Can it play back HD video content well? I'm not planning huge movie sessions but a lot of my tv these days is mkv 720 rather than SD and I will be planning to watch things in bed/on the train to work etc
Can it handle 1080 at all?
Searching the forums the answer seems yes & no. ICS and we should be onto a winner but my god I'm
I've got a galaxy sII and it's brilliant.
which 8.9 version do you plan on getting? If it is the LTE, this thread should clear up the video performance question.
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=1422072
also, this thread: http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=1400657
I'm going for just the wifi version, when you say LTE I'm again a little confused is that the 3g one or a diff chipset on the wifi? Or is that the graphics chipset? The 7310 is the wifi correct? That's the one I'm looking at.
I'm in the uk if that makes any difference, looking at most of the specs on offer it's proving a nightmare to figure out via companies webpages which version it is! I've seen a few as 7310a...
Getting it with 3g seems a touch redudant when I can just use my galaxy sII as a wireless hub if needs be.
You'd never guess I'm normally good at this stuff, there jsut seems a tonne of differing information on this.
based on my experience...
Shadey1 said:
I'm going for just the wifi version, when you say LTE I'm again a little confused is that the 3g one or a diff chipset on the wifi? Or is that the graphics chipset? The 7310 is the wifi correct? That's the one I'm looking at.
I'm in the uk if that makes any difference, looking at most of the specs on offer it's proving a nightmare to figure out via companies webpages which version it is! I've seen a few as 7310a...
Getting it with 3g seems a touch redudant when I can just use my galaxy sII as a wireless hub if needs be.
You'd never guess I'm normally good at this stuff, there jsut seems a tonne of differing information on this.
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Ok Shadey1, these are the differences:
SGT P7300/7310 = SOC tegra 2 = big problems with video HD (h.264) and BIG BIG problems with FullHD
SGT i957 = SOC Snapdragon = NO PROBLEMS with video HD (any) and I have yet to try FullHD (but they are very hopeful)
SGT P7320 = SGT i957
and again
SGT (samsung galaxy tab) i957 is USA version with 4G (or LTE) and new SOC snapdragon
SGT P7320 should be european version with 4G (or LTE) and new SOC snapdragon (for example, sold in Sweden but not in the UK)
SGT P7300/7310 is european (and others countrys) version with SOC tegra 2
P.S. tonight I check the compatibility of my i957 and FullHD video, so I update this message
Max
You sure the 7320 is the exact same as the 957?
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So I when you say that the 7300/7310 will not play h.264 or Full HD, but on Samsung's website it states:
"1080p playback, 3GP, MP4, AVI, WMV, FLV, MKV (Codec: MPEG4, H.263, Sorenson H.263, H.264, VC-1"
What videos are talking about that are h.264 vs above? Is it blu ray rips, self encoded videos, just trying to figure this out?
So in short if I want a wifi only version I'm stuck with Tegra 2, and the only way that's playing my 720+ files is if I root and ICS the thing...
Well I'd have ended up doing that anyway knowing me, so maybe i'm not that far up the creek.
Thanks for all the info.
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So I when you say that the 7300/7310 will not play h.264 or Full HD, but on Samsung's website it states:
"1080p playback, 3GP, MP4, AVI, WMV, FLV, MKV (Codec: MPEG4, H.263, Sorenson H.263, H.264, VC-1"
What videos are talking about that are h.264 vs above? Is it blu ray rips, self encoded videos, just trying to figure this out?
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i have the tegra version. (rooted, ics, overclocked) i can play most 720p material without problems. tried various different stuff and it all worked pretty well. even streaming over my homenetwork.
1080p is iffy. sometimes works sometimes doesn't seems to depend on the bitrate.
but as i said 720p works fine for me.
i've 7310 rooted with ics oc to 1.4
and tv shows on 720p plays fine but movies on 720p can get laggy sometimes.
frankly i am a bit disaapointed.
Sigh, I went and saw one in the flesh yesterday I really like it, but if there is such an issue with hd content it's really putting me off. Obviously it's the higher bitrate stuff that causes it so I doubt most of my tv stuff would cause issues but it's disappointing.
I have realized that this high profile issue seems to plague pretty much all Tegra 2 tablets, meaning pretty much most on the market right now. So it is either get a TF Prime(which has Tegra 3) or wait for something better to come along.
There is also the I957 option which in the US, is the Tab 8.9 4G version from AT&T. It is 16GB, but has a Snapdragon S3 and I have read it has no problems with video.
The only thing keeping me from going that route is the dev support, there is more with the P7300/P7310 than there are with the I957, there isn't even a ROM. Only root, kernal, and recovery, I believe.
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i've 7310 rooted with ics oc to 1.4
and tv shows on 720p plays fine but movies on 720p can get laggy sometimes.
frankly i am a bit disaapointed.
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Did you mean it plays all 720P fine, but 1080P is laggy?
I use mobo or vplayer for HD. Works fine for blue ray ripped content.
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I use mobo or vplayer for HD. Works fine for blue ray ripped content.
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AODfan said:
I have realized that this high profile issue seems to plague pretty much all Tegra 2 tablets, meaning pretty much most on the market right now. So it is either get a TF Prime(which has Tegra 3) or wait for something better to come along.
There is also the I957 option which in the US, is the Tab 8.9 4G version from AT&T. It is 16GB, but has a Snapdragon S3 and I have read it has no problems with video.
The only thing keeping me from going that route is the dev support, there is more with the P7300/P7310 than there are with the I957, there isn't even a ROM. Only root, kernal, and recovery, I believe.
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Did you mean it plays all 720P fine, but 1080P is laggy?
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If it's blatantly a tegra 2 issue I'm tempted to wait on the next 8.9 tablet, though if it works with ICS and little to no issues wehn oc'd i'm tempted to bite the bullet now!
I went ahead and ordered one from Amazon - 7310 32G for $419. It will be here tomorrow since I have "Prime." I'll try a variety of players once I get it.
Same here,i tried moboplayer,mx Player rockplayer and none of dem can get My mkv to work without lags.
In the rendering settings i only can Set sw-rendering, hardwarerendering isnt choosable
Hmm which ics Rom shall i take for.best playbackperformance?
One thing I've read is it seems to vary on the playback depending on the bitrate of the file, so 2 or3 different files and let them play out. see what happens then?
Galaxian Soup seems one of the best options from what I'm reading.
Any update AODfan?
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I have realized that this high profile issue seems .
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Did you mean it plays all 720P fine, but 1080P is laggy?
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720p tv shows are fine ,720p movies can get laggy some times
1080p did not manage to play even once
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720p tv shows are fine ,720p movies can get laggy some times
1080p did not manage to play even once
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This basically puts me off the Tab 8.9, I'm not so fussed about 1080 but 720 covers far too much of my tv rendering it uselss for watching on the train, in bed etc.
Roll on the next gen or the LTE.
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This basically puts me off the Tab 8.9, I'm not so fussed about 1080 but 720 covers far too much of my tv rendering it uselss for watching on the train, in bed etc.
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i didn't experience any lag watching 720p movie the other day. my tab is OC'd to 1,5ghz though which could be playing a part.

YouTube problems

Hi all,
I started out with the stock 3.2 ROM, I quickly switched to Overcom ROM 3.2. I was happy with it for about 8 months.
Then I decided to go to ICS and later JB.
Every ROM I've used so far has the problem that HD movies on YouTube don't play very well. Every few second it will stop for a fraction of a second, it's really annoying. The audio is never affected though. It happends when the video is small and when it's full-screen. The moment I switch from HD to HQ the problem is gone.
I tried about anything, even overclocking up to 1.5 GHz. doesn't change a thing. I'm pretty sure it's not the capabilities of the tablet, if I play 720p trailers on the IMDb app it plays all video's perfectly. Also, when I use the 3.2 Overcome ROM backup the problem is gone as well! I can't go back to 3.2! I love ICS and JB too much!
Are other people having this problem? Or does anyone knows the solution?
I was wondering if this has something to do with the kernel, so far I used the A1 kernel and currently I'm on 3.1.10 Cyanogenmod+ kernel and CyanogenMod 10, with Android 4.1.2
Again, from the Asus Transformer Forum about the Tegra 2 and HD content -.- :
"The Tegra2 chipset are designed as a mobile sollution chipset - to support web 2 standards. The highest encoding profile used here (Youtube 1080p) are 1080p baseline and this the Tegra2 chipset will both record and play with no troubles. As well as 720p baseline and main profile - but only upto L3.1 with some limitations. It doesnt matter which container is used (mkv, mp4, m4v, avi etc) and it doesnt matter if resolution are 1080p - its only a matter of the encoding profile used to encode the supported video format H264
Tegra2 will NEVER be able to decode High profile L4.1 encodes - it's not a software issue, neither in terms of Honeycomb or Nvidia libs, its simply a limitation of the abilities of the hardwaredecoder in the Tegra2 chipset and this will never change. It is also not a limitation in the Transformer specifically, but a limitation in ALL Tegra2 based tablets and mobilephones.
This is the same reason why some mediaplayers like the Boxee Box that was originally intended to use the Tegra2 moved on to an Intel chipset before launch.
In short the Tegra2 chipset will support playback of videos encoded in 1080p or 720p resolution, using the H264 video codec and AAC audio codec - as long as the video are encoded after the baseline profile standard
It will not now or ever - play 1080p/720p encodes encoded after the high profile standard."
Youtube HD is not encoded as it has to be for Tegra2 chipsets to play without stutters..
Next time, please serach the forum, there has been several threads about hd content.
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Again, from the Asus Transformer Forum about the Tegra 2 and HD content -.- :
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Next time, please serach the forum, there has been several threads about hd content.
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While I agree the issue was mentioned before (it's even on my faq ICS), none of your reply addresses the observation, made by several folks on this board, that certain (youtube) HD videos played fine in HD, but stutter in ICS. Or did I miss something?
I read a suggestion somewhere, that video would stutter less in ICS (correction: jelly bean) if developer USB debugging mode is off, but I didn't see a difference...
Edit: link http://forum.xda-developers.com/showpost.php?p=33994833&postcount=2798 and http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?p=33996486#post33996486 (for cm10)
Edit: an earlier version of this post spelled "fools" where I meant "folks". Darn auto suggest :-\
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Well, i have to admit that youtube hd videos did not play fluently on HC for me. Therefore I think that the android version or kernel doesnt matter for decoding. I might be wrong though..
With that being said, i think that there is no solution to get it fixed.
Btw that USB debugging thing does not work for me as well
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Added a link and an important spelling correction to my previous post
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=1869056
Thanks Ncyde47 for that insight..
I had issues with prefetch not working with latest youtube version and had installed an old apk which was working good.

Galaxy Tab S 10.5 and 10 bit videos

Hi
Please somebody confirm is Samsung Galaxy Tab S 10.5 capable of playing 1080p 10 bit (mostly anime) videos?
(please also include info what player you have used, mode of playback, hardware, sowftware, version of a tablet etc)
I am really interested in buying this tablet and the screen is just gorgeous but I am also an anime fan and would like to watch my anime in the highest possible quality on it.
Thanks
Ed
ziprar said:
Hi
Please somebody confirm is Samsung Galaxy Tab S 10.5 capable of playing 1080p 10 bit (mostly anime) videos?
(please also include info what player you have used, mode of playback, hardware, sowftware, version of a tablet etc)
I am really interested in buying this tablet and the screen is just gorgeous but I am also an anime fan and would like to watch my anime in the highest possible quality on it.
Thanks
Ed
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Bump!
I'm considering getting one of the Tabs to avoid carrying my -huge- laptop to watch stuff in other rooms. Also, maybe there's a difference between exynos vs snapdragon regarding video playback capability. Any input appreciated!
And just to confirm... from what I've been reading, T700=Exynos and T705=Snapdragon? there's no T705-Exynos based?
Provinomico said:
Bump!
I'm considering getting one of the Tabs to avoid carrying my -huge- laptop to watch stuff in other rooms. Also, maybe there's a difference between exynos vs snapdragon regarding video playback capability. Any input appreciated!
And just to confirm... from what I've been reading, T700=Exynos and T705=Snapdragon? there's no T705-Exynos based?
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I have yet to see the first Snapdragon for the Tab S series, all of them have been Exynos, i believe that they might use Snapdragon in the NA models to come around november to Verizon and T-Mobile but right now, the LTE and WiFi versions T700-705-800 and 805 are using Exynos.
Video playback has been smooth on my T705 (lossless 1080 flac).
Satorikn said:
I have yet to see the first Snapdragon for the Tab S series, all of them have been Exynos, i believe that they might use Snapdragon in the NA models to come around november to Verizon and T-Mobile but right now, the LTE and WiFi versions T700-705-800 and 805 are using Exynos.
Video playback has been smooth on my T705 (lossless 1080 flac).
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So T700 is Exynos-wifi, and T705 Exynos-LTE.... if they finally roll out Snapdragon based TABs, there should be a new model number, right?
I tried a Hi10P video on a Snapdragon600 based S4 mobile and playback was very choppy -using BSPlayer-, do you know if there's 10bit HW decoding support on the Exynos running the new TABs?
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So T700 is Exynos-wifi, and T705 Exynos-LTE.... if they finally roll out Snapdragon based TABs, there should be a new model number, right?
I tried a Hi10P video on a Snapdragon600 based S4 mobile and playback was very choppy -using BSPlayer-, do you know if there's 10bit HW decoding support on the Exynos running the new TABs?
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tried some 10bit with mxplayer and that was choppy on the 10.5" tab s
heatfire said:
tried some 10bit with mxplayer and that was choppy on the 10.5" tab s
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What player were you using? SW or HW decoding? Prolly in SW decoding mode any of these won't be able to produce smooth playback and from what a quick reading on the specs and a couple of sites, the Mali GPU on the Exynos SoC would not support 10bit video decoding... so if I'm not wrong, there goes my hope...
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What player were you using? SW or HW decoding? Prolly in SW decoding mode any of these won't be able to produce smooth playback and from what a quick reading on the specs and a couple of sites, the Mali GPU on the Exynos SoC would not support 10bit video decoding... so if I'm not wrong, there goes my hope...
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There's no GPU, PC or mobile, that supports hi10p decoding. That said, I have a hard time believing that the Tab S wouldn't be able to play 1080p hi10p videos smoothly as my old Nexus 10 with a far slower CPU almost pulls that off and my Z1c with a Snapdragon 800 plays them smoothly (granted, it's a much lower resolution screen but still) with MX Player.
I've put a test video in the link below that people can try to see if it plays smoothly. MX Player is recommended.
http://www.fileswap.com/dl/4GAia6Pop/
Lol full metal alchemist... love the anime... it play fine on my tab s 8.4 with bsplayer and its extra 7arm codec.
Mxplayer was ok last time but now since they lose some codec due to licensing issue some of the high quality video just play choppy since its use sw mode only.
Btw the tab s also lacking some codec. Dont know why samsung left out some of the codec although the device are capable.
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Provinomico said:
What player were you using? SW or HW decoding? Prolly in SW decoding mode any of these won't be able to produce smooth playback and from what a quick reading on the specs and a couple of sites, the Mali GPU on the Exynos SoC would not support 10bit video decoding... so if I'm not wrong, there goes my hope...
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HW wasnt supported. so it was SW.
It's working just fine on my tab 10.5 exynos processor. However i had to turn off all the codec codes and run on pure hardware acceleration for it to work. Goes to show the exynos processor can play videos just fine without any hardware codec or software aid.
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There's no GPU, PC or mobile, that supports hi10p decoding. That said, I have a hard time believing that the Tab S wouldn't be able to play 1080p hi10p videos smoothly as my old Nexus 10 with a far slower CPU almost pulls that off and my Z1c with a Snapdragon 800 plays them smoothly (granted, it's a much lower resolution screen but still) with MX Player.
I've put a test video in the link below that people can try to see if it plays smoothly. MX Player is recommended.
http://www.fileswap.com/dl/4GAia6Pop/
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CazeW said:
There's no GPU, PC or mobile, that supports hi10p decoding. That said, I have a hard time believing that the Tab S wouldn't be able to play 1080p hi10p videos smoothly as my old Nexus 10 with a far slower CPU almost pulls that off and my Z1c with a Snapdragon 800 plays them smoothly (granted, it's a much lower resolution screen but still) with MX Player.
I've put a test video in the link below that people can try to see if it plays smoothly. MX Player is recommended.
http://www.fileswap.com/dl/4GAia6Pop/
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I wouldn't know about the Mali GPU capabilities, but I also thought a Snapdragon800 should be able to playback Hi10p, hence I was interested on getting the 'supposed' Snapdragon version of the Tab S 8.4.
The new Mali -T764- though, seems to support 10bit decoding and H265/HEVC, so I was kinda hoping the T628 Mali would do also 10bit decoding...
NixxonExxo said:
It's working just fine on my tab 10.5 exynos processor. However i had to turn off all the codec codes and run on pure hardware acceleration for it to work. Goes to show the exynos processor can play videos just fine without any hardware codec or software aid.
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I hadn't read you... so you got that Hi10p sample that CazeW posted playing back smoothly? which player did you use?
That clip played fine on my 10.5 thru BS Player but SW mode only. All my 1080p rips play in HW mode so not sure... This is still a great device for multimedia.
I use a media player that is banned by ios and android called xbmc or soon to be renamed to kodi. The best media player ever!
It runs great on either software or hardware accelerometer alone.
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I hadn't read you... so you got that Hi10p sample that CazeW posted playing back smoothly? which player did you use?
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Where do you guys get these 10bit Anime series from. I normally stream them from Anime.fullfights so quality is never really HD (it says 720p but most likely a bit compressed)
Rage1ofakind said:
Where do you guys get these 10bit Anime series from. I normally stream them from Anime.fullfights so quality is never really HD (it says 720p but most likely a bit compressed)
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General torrent sites or dedicated anime trackers.
BTW i just bought a Tab s8.4 today, and tried the sample straight away using vlc, smooth playback, will try with the video I could not play with an galaxy s4, which is higher bitrate, if it plays back I would be officially in love with the thing.
No luck, tried a high bitrate video (with embedded subtitles), the same I used on the Galaxy S4, and it plays better but is still unwatchable Both with VLC and KmPlayer. I will install xbmc and BSPlayer tonight but I fear the results will be the same :/
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No luck, tried a high bitrate video (with embedded subtitles), the same I used on the Galaxy S4, and it plays better but is still unwatchable Both with VLC and KmPlayer. I will install xbmc and BSPlayer tonight but I fear the results will be the same :/
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Did yoiu try MX player pro? Also you if u give me a link I could test it out on my custom rom
eousphoros said:
Did yoiu try MX player pro? Also you if u give me a link I could test it out on my custom rom
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Hi eousphoros, last night I tried with MX Player, HW+ mode did not work, but software&multi core mode seemed to play it back about fine, not absolutely perfect, but watchable, as soon as I flash a custom kernel a play with settings a bit I'm sure it will improve the missing -tiny- bit. Thanks for the tip. Will try also BS-Player&XBMC.

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