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Why are samsung leaking these to test, The FroYo FW must be into a good stage of development by now, I am unsure why we are 'beta testing' this and hoping for FroYo to be released working well straight off the bat,
Do you guys think we will get FroYo releases before it is officially released? I mean all these firmwares we are testing will be made into one that gets officially released.
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Of course we will get a leaked release.
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Of course we will get a leaked release.
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Is there a better community of beta testers than xda-developers?
I'm very happy with all my Samsung mobiles (...,blade, i780, Omnia2, ...) I hope Samsung STEP IN into this community and help us help them
Samsung: let us test your Beta please (We do it for free!)
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Why are samsung leaking these to test, The FroYo FW must be into a good stage of development by now, I am unsure why we are 'beta testing' this and hoping for FroYo to be released working well straight off the bat,
Do you guys think we will get FroYo releases before it is officially released? I mean all these firmwares we are testing will be made into one that gets officially released.
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Don't do that. You got the whole place jumping with excitement thinking that FroYo had been leaked. Your a cruel mean person.
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Don't do that. You got the whole place jumping with excitement thinking that FroYo had been leaked. Your a cruel mean person.
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Agreed you are mean
I nearly fell from chair.
IF they would release thier Froyo as beta to this forum - they could get beta feedback by reading about bugs posted by us AND does not have to deal with the consequences we know how to reflash - "normal" users dont.
So Win Win for both.
Yeah, you really should have titled the thread as a question. As worded, it makes folks think it's actually happened.
LOL at people's hopes being dashed.
there are already alpha versions out, if you check the Xda blogs
Samsung, your turn.
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FROYO
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there are already alpha versions out, if you check the Xda blogs
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Already Alpha versions out :|? What!? Where?
Really? No one as excited about thus as I am?
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Really? No one as excited about thus as I am?
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I fired up a google search and i found a lot of hits about a froyo alpha on a galaxy spica. Maybe some things got mixed up.
Yep, can't find anything about Froyo alphas or leaks for the Galaxy S, just for some of the older Galaxy phones.
I think we Android owners are a fairly impatient bunch.
In the time it's taken for the iPhone to go from 3.0 to 4.0, Android has had:
- 1.6 Donut
- 2.0 / 2.1 Eclair
- 2.2 Froyo
The phone manufacturers must have a heart attack every time a new version of Android is released and their handset owners immediately begin screaming for it...
Luckily the Galaxy S is the flagship of Samsung which they intend to sell 10 million of, so chances are we'll be seeing good support and the stream of beta firmwares shows they're not sitting still.
Froyo has been confirmed for August in Korea, and most likely September in international markets.
We've got to be patient and remember the Nexus One is still the ONLY Android phone that has received an official Froyo update as of yet. Even the Desire, EVO 4G, Droid, Incredible and Droid X are still on the waiting list.
From the sounds of it August-October will be the time the various handset manufacturers will be rolling out their Froyo updates.
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Yep, can't find anything about Froyo alphas or leaks for the Galaxy S, just for some of the older Galaxy phones.
I think we Android owners are a fairly impatient bunch.
In the time it's taken for the iPhone to go from 3.0 to 4.0, Android has had:
- 1.6 Donut
- 2.0 / 2.1 Eclair
- 2.2 Froyo
The phone manufacturers must have a heart attack every time a new version of Android is released and their handset owners immediately begin screaming for it...
Luckily the Galaxy S is the flagship of Samsung which they intend to sell 10 million of, so chances are we'll be seeing good support and the stream of beta firmwares shows they're not sitting still.
Froyo has been confirmed for August in Korea, and most likely September in international markets.
We've got to be patient and remember the Nexus One is still the ONLY Android phone that has received an official Froyo update as of yet. Even the Desire, EVO 4G, Droid, Incredible and Droid X are still on the waiting list.
From the sounds of it August-October will be the time the various handset manufacturers will be rolling out their Froyo updates.
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You're absolutely right. However i have a HTC Magic (very old android phone) and i'm running Froyo and it rocks =) hehehe, i know, i know, it's not official
Let's just hope Cyanogen gets one of these Galaxy S and starts porting CMmod to Galaxy S =)
I'm selling my HTC Magic right now to help buying this phone
Cheers,
Phk
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Yep we sure are
The phone manufacturers must have a heart attack every time a new version of Android is released and their handset owners immediately begin screaming for it...
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Well they don't do themselves any favours by launching a new phone every couple of weeks and insisting on putting their own UI on top of Android.
Looking further afield: anyone think that Samsung will put Gingerbread on this baby?
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Yep we sure are
Well they don't do themselves any favours by launching a new phone every couple of weeks and insisting on putting their own UI on top of Android.
Looking further afield: anyone think that Samsung will put Gingerbread on this baby?
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Possibly but I think I have to go with the sceptic masses here that say samsung support isn't good in longterm and so I guess they won't do that. Unless ofc gingerbread is going to bring the massive UI update that vanilla android so desperately needs for usablity and samsung decides that touchwiy isnt necessary anymore.
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Let's just hope Cyanogen gets one of these Galaxy S and starts porting CMmod to Galaxy S =)
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There are developers assigned to port CyanogenMod to the Vibrant (T-Mobile US version):
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=729364
Unfortunately, looking at Wes Garner's Twitter, he seems rather more keen on the Slide than the Vibrant:
I like the slide better
@wesgarner so does that mean your gonna keep developing for the slide?
@XJRodzx probably more for it than the vibrant
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So don't know how that's necessarily going to work out. The intention is there, though, anyway - hope it's still in progress!
I have doubts with Gingerbread...from what we know so far, it's supposed to have a (MUCH NEEDED!) UI overhaul based around the Gallery's sexy look.
If a phone is launched with a certain interface, chances are the manufacturer probably wouldn't be keen on releasing an update that changes everything because of the issue with it being different to what the buyer paid for. Basically, it changes the product, and the picture on the box is no longer what you've bought. It's all well and good with something like Eclair to Froyo since it's largely just performance improvements and some new features rather than an overhaul.
If anything, I think Samsung would be more likely to release a new version of the Galaxy S at Gingerbread's launch. Much like it's doubtful the HTC Desire / Evo 4G / Incredible will get Gingerbread updates. Instead, HTC will probably have new devices ready for the new interface.
The Nexus One is the only current device I believe has a chance of Gingerbread, mainly because it's the 'official' Google phone and has been promoted and sold as a developer phone.They'll be wanting some nice apps ready for Gingerbread when it launches which will obviously need to be in development before Gingerbread-equipped phones launch.
According to the danish lg site, under FAQ of the LG Optimus 2x, they say that it'll be out in june/july 2011. So that seems to be as official they have stated a release date yet
If that's real, than it's a real shame. 6 months to get GB working on their flagship device seems really lame and only shows LG inability to give the updates in a timely manner. In June Android 2.4 will be already launched.
Yeah this sucks ballzzzz
Yeah it seems to be true, but have only been posted (as far as I have checked) on the Scandinavian sites for Denmark, Sweden and Norway.
I also made this post about it (maybe in the wrong section) http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=1034970
EDIT: With a picture btw.
This means Cyanogenmod is again overtaking the manufacturer
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If that's real, than it's a real shame. 6 months to get GB working on their flagship device seems really lame and only shows LG inability to give the updates in a timely manner. In June Android 2.4 will be already launched.
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this is in line with LG italy "our scope is to provide the update in the first half of this year"
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i've just finished a livechat with italian LG support.
they have no info on gingerbread update.
Im glad there are alot of custom roms. LG fails again. superhardware lack of support
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oh my goodness when is the cyanogen gingerbread update .........
hehe who cares? I only care about CM7
The problem is there are a lot of fixes needed even within the LG Android 2.2.2, it's not all about providing GB. The stock LG software is subpar in my oppinion and the problems signaled here and on other forums needs to be addressed by LG hopefully before June.
[email protected], CM7 would be nice but for O2X is in a far from usable state.
If LG launch the 2.3 with the know how demonstrated on 2.2... I don't see how this is a good news...
CM7 is all that mater
maybe LG is waiting for cm7, and get the idea from it
I absolutely agree with the statement "Who cares, I just want CM7".
Then again, LG having the low-level dev access that they have (drivers and whatnot), isn't much easier for them to dev the update than for us to dev CM7? Moreover, wouldn't it be much easier to port CM7 if we had an LG 2.3 ROM?
Cheers.
Shame I switched from Samsung after month of **** firmwares and now the same on lg - now I really consider apple - they know hot to build a kernel to use the hardware
google and android is as it seems incapable of delivereing a kernel for single or dual core
the always bring out new phones and none run well
the lg drives me crazy for 2 weeks - its more lame than my nexus one
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Shame I switched from Samsung after month of **** firmwares and now the same on lg - now I really consider apple - they know hot to build a kernel to use the hardware
google and android is as it seems incapable of delivereing a kernel for single or dual core
the always bring out new phones and none run well
the lg drives me crazy for 2 weeks - its more lame than my nexus one
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I kind of like LG for the speed, is much faster than the Galaxy S no matter what kernel you had on it, but O2X has other problems like the poor audio quality in calls and still the software doesn't feel like it's the final version, more like a test one. I agree we should expect more because the super fast hardware is there. It's a reality manufacturers don't care about that, they act like sell only the hardware and after that, they wash their hands. At least Samsung continue to support the Galaxy S which will have GB within weeks and in the meantime we have to wait until summer to get our port on O2X. I would never buy Apple, they sell just boring super expensive and locked products, that are still owned by them even after they sell them to you. If you want Android without headaches, the best bet is on the Nexus Phones. But, in the end, you can't have everything I guess...
Wow, that was long... what are we talking about here?
Sounds like the email I recived from LG Sweden this monday which said their devs had started to work on 2.3...... but what...started? Hasn't 2.3 been out for a while??
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Never buy LG 2X, if it´s not CM supported
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Never buy LG 2X, if it´s not CM supported
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it will be supported and if not I still have my Nexus S hehe
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it will be supported ...
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yes...I would bet it will ..only thing that counts for me
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Shame I switched from Samsung after month of **** firmwares and now the same on lg - now I really consider apple - they know hot to build a kernel to use the hardware
google and android is as it seems incapable of delivereing a kernel for single or dual core
the always bring out new phones and none run well
the lg drives me crazy for 2 weeks - its more lame than my nexus one
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Try the Nexus S, being just a single core hummingbird processor, the thing flies
LG Optimus 2x have the potential to be faster then the Nexus S, all you need is just to wait until more developers use the phone
Mid October and no gingerbread news? Anyone have anything new on it?
Yeah, what he said..
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They don't want us to have gb.
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Yes.
Yeah, I'm Homeless.
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Mid October and no gingerbread news? Anyone have anything new on it?
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Patience... It's coming. While I share your anticipation, I figure that it will be worth the wait since the boys here will take it and run with it. Just like the other roms that have been released so far, it's definitely been worth waiting for.
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Yea I'm trying to be patient about it. When I had my droid 2 I was being patient and it never happened. So my patience is running thin. Haha
This reminds me of when I had my HTC eris. It seemed to take forever for 2.1 to come out for it! Mainly because the sense UI had to be completely updated to be compatible. Not sure what the delay is in this case, but I'm sure it will be worth it.
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Clearly it's coming since it's on the esteem and the esteem is essentially the revolution. Should be coming.soon
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Take most rumor dates and add 4 to 6 weeks to them with VZW. I do not expect to see GB much before January or February which I find pointless as ICS could just as easily be configured for the Revo...
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Clearly it's coming since it's on the esteem and the esteem is essentially the revolution. Should be coming.soon
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Yes and no... Esteem built for MPCS and Revo for VZW. Verizon does not necessarily have, want, or need to push GB to this phone. I honestly expect to see the Revo to hit EOL list soon. [sarcasm] It is nearly 6 months old [/sarcasm]
Total speculation, but I wouldn't be surprised if the reason for the delay
is so that they can find as many ways as possible to lock it down from being rooted. Considering VZW is in the business of CONTROLLING what you can and cannot do (unless you pay then more) with your open source based smart phone. I wouldn't put this past them. :-/
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Might also be that they are waiting until there is a release of the Revo 2 with stock GB (if the rumors are correct) and they dont want people to have reasons not to upgrade to a new product.
I am on MPCS and had the Ascend with stock 2.1 and even though there were rumors of a 2.2 update, it did not happen until after the Ascend 2 came out with 2.2 stock.
Dunno, just a thought....still hope it comes soon for all the Revo people in waiting.
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Might also be that they are waiting until there is a release of the Revo 2 with stock GB (if the rumors are correct) and they dont want people to have reasons not to upgrade to a new product.
I am on MPCS and had the Ascend with stock 2.1 and even though there were rumors of a 2.2 update, it did not happen until after the Ascend 2 came out with 2.2 stock.
Dunno, just a thought....still hope it comes soon for all the Revo people in waiting.
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I don't know about them holding the update until the revo 2 comes out... There's a lot of evidence telling us its coming soon like the posts on the LG site and the picture saying the revo is updateable to 2.3... But you could be right nobody really knows...
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Going to Verizon tomorrow...I will ask I have a goof friend there...maybe he will tell be a little something
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Going to Verizon tomorrow...I will ask I have a goof friend there...maybe he will tell be a little something
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If he works at a store... they are generally last to know anything.
I do not really care anymore at this point. I have decided to wait for February, upgrade one of my other lines and switch to the nexus prime. By February the prime should be out, and updated with fixes and running smooth. It also gives devs sometime to tweak and fiddle. I will then sell my revo.
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If he works at a store... they are generally last to know anything.
I do not really care anymore at this point. I have decided to wait for February, upgrade one of my other lines and switch to the nexus prime. By February the prime should be out, and updated with fixes and running smooth. It also gives devs sometime to tweak and fiddle. I will then sell my revo.
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I love my Android and it's customizing abilities, so don't get me wrong on this statement, but WP7 has been starting to catch my interest. Of course, I have at least another year before I have to think about upgrading, but since I am a MS programmer, the thought of owning one intrigues me.
I have been with Android for years, but the more I read about the troubles developers have with this platform, the less I believe it will ever be a unified architecture. The problem is that they are developing on a Linux base with fragmented (if not non-existent) standards, with several "one off" branches.
What this means for the gaming industry and high end graphics capabilities is that this platform has a strong likelihood of never reaching it's full hardware potential. Reading comments from large institutions like Electronic Arts on the difficulty in developing for the platform and seeing the Android market further sink into mini-walled gardens due to "perceived" compatibility issues, my hopes for this platform are slowly starting to come into question.
That's unfortunate, because I love the idea, I love the freedom, and I think I would hate living in a design chosen for me, but at the end of the day, it's going to be the quality of apps, and how well the device runs with the operating system, as well as the compatibility of apps that's going to make a difference.
Maybe my mind will change over the next year or so with the release of ICS (hate that name), but right now, I don't have much hope of seeing this OS going in a direction any different than the current state of Linux.
It's functional, it's powerful, but I want EVERYTHING Android has the capability of doing, not just the bits and pieces they deem worthy of my branded device. My video chip is every bit as powerful as the competing OS devices, so I want to actual see the potential realized!
The Amazon store, the NVidia store, the restrictions with the Market, it's all contributing to putting gated communities up around every subsection of Android. Honestly, I grow tired of it...
Not sure if anyone caught this news back in the spring or remembers... but the update is more than likely coming. Google is "encouraging" manufacturers to keep their phones up to date for 18 months after release. LG and Verizon are supposedly on board. Course, this doesn't mean much, but it is hope.
http://androinica.com/2011/05/android-updates-for-18-months/
I agree with majorpay. So much potential yet so much pussyfooting around in an attempt to squeeze money out of people. I mean that's the whole point of marketing but I think its kind of ridiculous that when an update comes out everyone running the os has no real guarantee of getting it. And if they did promise it. They don't have to promise when. Android is a tank of an os. Wish we could have the current version when its available and not have to wait till our carrier or manufacturer is ready to release it.
what happens first Revo getting GB or ICS launching?
then how long before people start wanting ICS.
Me i have 1 upgrade on my account left and just waiting for either the Prime and or see whats coming out early next yer.
don't take this the wrong way i LOVE the Rev over any other phone on verizon right now BUT it seems like LG is holding back..this phone should have launched with GB there was no reason for it not to. now it sounds like there waiting for the Revo 2 to launch before updating it.
rant done for now
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I love my Android and it's customizing abilities, so don't get me wrong on this statement, but WP7 has been starting to catch my interest. Of course, I have at least another year before I have to think about upgrading, but since I am a MS programmer, the thought of owning one intrigues me.
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don't feel bad. I was at an ATT store with a friend and was checking out the HD7s and was highly impressed with it. It was super smooth and fast, had decent specs. Overall a really nice phone. If Verizon had a comparable phone (trophy is not near the level of the hd7s) I would have considered it.
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don't feel bad. I was at an ATT store with a friend and was checking out the HD7s and was highly impressed with it. It was super smooth and fast, had decent specs. Overall a really nice phone. If Verizon had a comparable phone (trophy is not near the level of the hd7s) I would have considered it.
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I would *suspect* WP7 is going to start bringing REAL phones to the table within the next year or so (they kind of have to if they want to stay in the game). It will be interesting to see what impact on those of us in the Android world it will have. Unless Android can unify their architecture and make dev friendly APIs and standards, they are going to lose this game as quickly as they started winning it. On that note, I'll never purchase an Apple. Put a gun to my head, and it's still likely not going to happen.
Another interesting point you make there, that I've never understood, is that Verizon, one of the largest providers in the nation, always seems to be the last to get the greatest hardware.
Android Police article
Not that most people here are really bothered since you use the custom ROMs, but now this means there will be an official Jelly Bean template to make a sweet CM JB ROM off of.
Hopefully they won't cancel the upgrade.
Do you think we will get 4.1 after 4.2 is released?
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Prob 4.1
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I don't trust moto.
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Agreed. They might keep their promise, but most likely release 4.1 long after 4.2 is already out.
IMO they need to quit bowing to the carriers. Make their handsets according to the original principles of the Open Handset Alliance - fully open source, fully unlocked. If the carriers don't like it, tough, let them make their own damn locked phones. After enough consumers get burned by the lock-in, they'll all start choosing unlocked phones.
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Agreed. They might keep their promise, but most likely release 4.1 long after 4.2 is already out.
IMO they need to quit bowing to the carriers. Make their handsets according to the original principles of the Open Handset Alliance - fully open source, fully unlocked. If the carriers don't like it, tough, let them make their own damn locked phones. After enough consumers get burned by the lock-in, they'll all start choosing unlocked phones.
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I ordered already other device, not sure if I'll 100% move to it, but I plan to get rid of moto after that happened with my previous device motorola photon. I couldn't wait more and decided to try droid 4. After this politics I plan to go out of moto once I'll find good device. Hope, that found already.
I'm posting this from a D4 on Jellybeans but I'm still glad to hear this. I think it will go a long way towards making people feel they can trust Motorola again, which as we can see from a few other posts here many people do not.
The real question in my mind is, what will come first, the DROID 5 or the official JB upgrade? What I want to see are updates the drop shortly after AOSP does, not a year later...
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Motorola says that the Droid 4 will get jb some time next year. I'm sure it will be around the same time the five comes out. The sad thing is that the five will probably just be a razr m with a keyboard ):
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Motorola says that the Droid 4 will get jb some time next year. I'm sure it will be around the same time the five comes out. The sad thing is that the five will probably just be a razr m with a keyboard ):
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At this point I would be happy with that. 4.3 in screen + S4 (AKA the Photon Q)= fine with me.
The main Droid line, like nexus, was supposed to stand for quality and top of the line specs not this last years tech and rebranded bs that it is now. The keyboard is the only thing the series has going for it
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now they're claiming droid 4 *might* get 4.2.2 in q3 or q4 2013
I wonder if the old cheesecake method would work if Motorola does start working on official Jellybean updates.
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I don't even care about the JB update at this point, with the JB ROM's we have already working near perfectly
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The main Droid line, like nexus, was supposed to stand for quality and top of the line specs not this last years tech and rebranded bs that it is now. The keyboard is the only thing the series has going for it
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I'd ditch moto in a heartbeat if there was another phone with a physical keyboard. Too bad there'll never be a nexus with a keyboard.
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I don't even care about the JB update at this point, with the JB ROM's we have already working near perfectly
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I don't mean to change the subject but which ROM are you using? The cyanogen 10 has no camera, Bluetooth issues, and crashes (not that I'm complaining, I'm grateful to even have it), but I thought that was pretty much the situation for all of them at the moment?
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now they're claiming droid 4 *might* get 4.2.2 in q3 or q4 2013
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where did you read that?
I'd be more than satisfied to get 4.1 in Q1 of next year.
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where did you read that?
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It's been around for a while at http://www.droidforums.net/forum/dr...2-2-key-lime-pie-upgrade-timeline-razr-x.html
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Droid 4: Authorized/Subject to change Reason: Support time frame may not support 4.2.2 estimated push date early Q3 2013
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To me that says we are going to get it just the release date may change
I get it never mind y'all were saying the same thing lol dang Ishould have been blonde..
So we are getting 4.2 but release date may change..got it
Thanks guys
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Droid 4: Authorized/Subject to change Reason: Support time frame may not support 4.2.2 estimated push date early Q3 2013
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To me that says we are going to get it just the release date may change
I get it never mind y'all were saying the same thing lol dang Ishould have been blonde..
So we are getting 4.2 but release date may change..got it
Thanks guys
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I'm pretty sure this article was labeled as untrue rumor. Android 4.2.2 won't be a the next codename of android. I'm pretty sure we will be getting JB 4.1 since that's what Moto promised to us earlier this year. Honestly, I don't think any devices with less than 2GB will get Android 4.2 other than stock Android devices.
It's been a good run the the D4, I'm pretty happy with CM10 on here right now, much less bloated! I just miss the power off animation (CRT)...
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Is it my imagination, or has the Nexus 7 gone the way of most Android devices? The development cycle is so tight that anything over a few months old gets cut loose and never sees another update. This seems like a rampant issue. My Galaxy Tab 10.1 will probably never see another update either, and definitely will never see JB. Tablets seem worse than phones too. Someone correct me if I'm way off base here. I completely understand how this has happened, but I don't have to like it. And I wonder how consumers can influence this situation. What is worse, the Nexus 7 has not been superseded by another product yet, and still the updates seem to have completely stopped. I must say that Apple is somewhat better about supporting it's hardware longer too.
What updates are you expecting? There have been no newer versions of Android yet. Not really sure what updates there could be when nothing as been added to Android...
I mean come on, this is a damn Nexus device....it will get the next update...
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What updates are you expecting? There have been no newer versions of Android yet. Not really sure what updates there could be when nothing as been added to Android...
I mean come on, this is a damn Nexus device....it will get the next update...
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Not sure I believe we will ever see another OTA update on N7. And I would be disappointed to think that no bug fixes have been found since the last OTA. Then again I doubt anyone will ever push another update to a N7. It's now like my Galaxy Tab 10.1, it "works" so why fix it. By the time a new version worth pushing arrives, the N7 will be incapable of running it. Just my opinion based on past history.
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Not sure I believe we will ever see another OTA update on N7. And I would be disappointed to think that no bug fixes have been found since the last OTA. Then again I doubt anyone will ever push another update to a N7. It's now like my Galaxy Tab 10.1, it "works" so why fix it. By the time a new version worth pushing arrives, the N7 will be incapable of running it. Just my opinion based on past history.
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Past history with non-nexus devices!! LOL
What are you going on about? Nexus devices get updates faster than any other devices....and longer support than other devices.
What color are the clouds in your world?
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mntbighker said:
Not sure I believe we will ever see another OTA update on N7. And I would be disappointed to think that no bug fixes have been found since the last OTA. Then again I doubt anyone will ever push another update to a N7. It's now like my Galaxy Tab 10.1, it "works" so why fix it. By the time a new version worth pushing arrives, the N7 will be incapable of running it. Just my opinion based on past history.
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The Nexus 7 is marketed and monitored directly by Google. As soon as Google releases another version of Android publicly (i.e., a stable release with less bugs), then you will be guaranteed to get it before any other device. This is one of the major benefits to owning a Nexus device.
In addition, just because bugs are identified and there may be a rumored fix with it, many good devs will continue to monitor their fix, test it, and see how it does; ensuring that the fix does not create a more bugs (in quantity and severity) than there were in a previous build.
Patience is a virtue. There's a reason why this saying is an aphorism.
Pirateghost said:
What updates are you expecting? There have been no newer versions of Android yet. Not really sure what updates there could be when nothing as been added to Android...
I mean come on, this is a damn Nexus device....it will get the next update...
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kj2112 said:
What color are the clouds in your world?
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Apparently pretty dark :crying:
mntbighker said:
Apparently pretty dark :crying:
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Just....wow! Lol
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TheAltruistic said:
The Nexus 7 is marketed and monitored directly by Google. As soon as Google releases another version of Android publicly (i.e., a stable release with less bugs), then you will be guaranteed to get it before any other device. This is one of the major benefits to owning a Nexus device.
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I think the Nexus "8" will be out by then and the 7 will be deemed too anemic to run the newer software. As I said, it was just an observation of a phenomenon with the hardware development cycle we have with Android. And yes, the situation is way worse with non-Nexus devices. My Sprint HTC One is pretty buggy and the phones generally seem to all have bugs that may eventually get fixed. But more often than not they just move on to the next big thing and you just have to live with the bugs until you replace the phone and get a whole new list of bugs. You can ROM the phone and sacrifice features along with different bugs of course. Consumer demand has shaped things such that there are never resources to really get existing devices locked down and bug free. There is no incentive for developers to work on existing devices, but always to develop for the next thing going out the door. Apparently there is a known bug in my HTC One that has to do with an incorrectly located file directory causing horrible battery issues. Weeks or months go by with no OTA to fix it.
Google wants every OEM to support devices for at least 18 months, so you can bet that nexus devices will get at least that and probably longer. I'm about 99% sure that the Nexus 7 will get key lime pie at least.
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awesome....so you base all your knowledge of android on touchwiz and sense tainted devices....cool....but it doesnt work that way in nexus land.
I definitely think you should sell your n7 and get one of those awesome no name tabs everyone loves!! I'm sure they will be updated frequently and quickly!! I think some already have key lime pie!!
Just my advice.
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On top of there being nothing new in the world of android for the N7 to be updated to, I'm also curious on what "bugs" the op thinks need fixed?
I'm running latest rasbean on my phone and stock 4.2.2 on the 7 and have literally no bugs on either. Completely functional and stable (neither device has even been rebooted in almost 3 weeks).
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There are bugs, fixes and new features in almost every release: http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Android_version_history
Look at the release dates to determine if releases are frequent enough.
Sometimes preventing an OTA update to a Nexus 7 device can be the challenge. Lol!
(still running 4.1.2 on my N7)
I got a Windows Phone 7 and Windows 8 RT Surface so I can experience obsolescence instead of updates. LOL
My two Nexus 7, one Grouper and one Tilapia, will be merrily updated to every new version of Android. I can't wait for more *fragmentation* with the next Android release.
Sorry gotta go run with the low information crowd, there is a protest nearby. ...
Thread is silly. Sorry OP.
Nexus One - Released with 2.1, EOL with 2.3.6 (2010 - 2011)
Nexus S - Released with 2.3, EOL with 4.1 (2010 - 2012)
Galaxy Nexus - Released with 4.0, still supported
Nexus 4 - Released with 4.2, still supported
Nexus 7 - Released with 4.1, still supported
Nexus 10 - Released with 4.2, still supported
Every device has made it through a year's worth at the very least, and that's starting with the Nexus One. At the time when the Nexus One was released, phone hardware was changing almost faster than it is now, and it still got quite a run of updates.
Please do some research before whining. The Nexus 7 hasn't seen an update as of now because there's no update to see.
Pirateghost said:
awesome....so you base all your knowledge of android on touchwiz and sense tainted devices....cool....but it doesnt work that way in nexus land.
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I had a Galaxy Nexus as well. Actually, the phone I had with the least bugs by the time I traded "up" was probably the Droid X. The Droid X2 was god awful by comparison.
Do you count the Google HTC One and Google Galaxy S4 as "Nexus Land"?
mntbighker said:
I had a Galaxy Nexus as well. Actually, the phone I had with the least bugs by the time I traded "up" was probably the Droid X. The Droid X2 was god awful by comparison.
Do you count the Google HTC One and Google Galaxy S4 as "Nexus Land"?
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Bad idea if current information is anything to go by. Google doesn't really seem to be doing altogether much more to support these two devices than it does for most-- it'll send the builds of Android as appropriate to the OEMs but it'll be up to them to actually tune everything.
mntbighker said:
I had a Galaxy Nexus as well. Actually, the phone I had with the least bugs by the time I traded "up" was probably the Droid X. The Droid X2 was god awful by comparison.
Do you count the Google HTC One and Google Galaxy S4 as "Nexus Land"?
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Your problem there is. Verizon.
No. The Google edition phones are not nexus devices.. At all.
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Pirateghost said:
Your problem there is. Verizon.
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Well, now I have done a complete 180. I have a Sprint HTC One from Ting.com. My bill is a fourth what it was with Verizon or AT&T and I rely mostly on WiFi/VOIP service. Too bad the HTC One is so terrible at holding onto a WiFi signal. I may have to switch back to a Samsung device if Sprint can't resolve this. Ting does support the Galaxy Nexus, among other Samsung phones.
Around here Verizon does have the best coverage BY FAR though.