First of all, Sorry! I know this question was asked like billion times over and over, and the amount of opinions is equal to the amount of the people who comment, but still.
Currently I'm running stock deodexed XXJVO ROM with CF-Root kernel.
The phone never was stable 100%, but the last days are horrible. Waze stuck (need hard reboot), phone turns off at night (=I dont have alarm clock = I late to work), it FCs and/or reboots randomly.
Now I want to get clear about the ROMs. There are 2 kind of them:
1. ROMs based on stock Samsung roms
2. ROMs based on Googles roms (like miui and CM)
Am I right?
Right now I don't have time nor the interest to play with really custom roms (miui/cm) since I'm not sure how stable they are (am I wrong about their stability?).
I just need phone that calls, surfs the web, sends sms, take photos, records videos and allows me to use GPS for navigation while I drive. For this reason I prefer to go with the roms based on stock Samsung roms (again correct me if I'm wrong. Maybe roms like MIUI/CM are stable enough for day-day use without flashing and reflashing the nightly every few days).
I need suggestion for either full ROM or combination of ROM and Kernel that will unleash the full potential of my phone with the minimum lags/FCs/reboots/etc.
From fast reading here I understood that Semaphore kernel is good enough (of course any other suggestions are welcomed). What do you think about combining it with stock deodexed ROM? Or maybe you have other more preferable ROMS (I don't have any preference to specific rom, however there are some things I can't live without and they are: a) NON increasing ringtone b) preferably root c) Ability to theme the phone, All other fixes/tweaks are optional and are in state of "nice to have").
Thanks a lot for reading this long posts, understand me and helping!
Have a good day and an awesome weekend!
I think you should try stock jvu and latest Semaphore kernel.
And convert to ext4.
That's fast enough.
BTW MIUI and CM7 are very fast and stable.
**tapatalked with galaxy s on CNA and Glitch kernel**
Flash mint berry miui, it's fast and will fit your requirements
Thanks for the replies!
dark_knight35
Stock JVU you mean stock, or stock and deodexed?
Should I bother and try MIUI/CM? (As I understood there is also ICS ROMs, what are those?)
hassaan123
Thanks, Ill consider this. Tough I'm a bit afraid about MIUI/CM since those are different ROMs.
More comments are welcomed!
Team ICSSGS RC4.2 the best for we till now
i wouldnt prefer miui/cm for gps. i used mintberry for 2 months but after the first weeks of pure stabilty it began to random reboot more than twice a day. reflash, new version everytime the same.
the ram management was also horrible in my eyes. i dont really like the cm kernels. they are updated too fast and it seems that they are never really stable for some reason. my battery life was horrible on miui. also annoying is that you always has to clear your memory manually before you want to play a game which isnt even in 3D. plus 720p is always choppy because they want to use more ram which is taken from the reserved memory for video recording. ah the compass isnt working too sometimes... depends on kernel but i didnt find a kernel which works
i am back on darky 10.4.2 with semaphore kernel. darkcore is also very good kernel with good stabilty and battery but i dont use it because i need voodoo color for my display...
especially for you skwo i would prefer the base versions from darky. they are kinda pure samsung with some tweaks and then you can try the dark core which is brought with and if you dont like it switch to semaphore. the standart theme is also very decent and if you dont like you can still customize your phone with the ota app such as things like camera hack (that annoying under 10% thingy that doesnt let you use your cam) or the exteneded toggepanel.
i understand good what you want. i mean its really cool to have such a great community which is working on so much roms but they are too heavy customized sometimes. everything seems so overloaded and the most skins doesnt fit with they own colors they use. i mean there are so much ics themed roms but with 15 different blue tones, that doesnt look "professional" and make android look like a bad designed mess
Kodon
Thanks a lot for this helpful reply!
I heard the same about MIUI/CM/ICS ROMs, that they lack 720p video recording (which is sort of important to me), and how some issues with GPS, and not stable enough.
Yea I tried darky once, didn't like it. I consider trying it again (with maybe different kernel).
The theme is not that important to me, I just put some AOSP theme that adds the battery percentage indicator. I used to play with the phone few months ago (was a ROM hopper and liked to customize it), these days I'm too busy for all this and just need a smart-phone that works.
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Thanks for the replies!
dark_knight35
Stock JVU you mean stock, or stock and deodexed?
Should I bother and try MIUI/CM? (As I understood there is also ICS ROMs, what are those?)
hassaan123
Thanks, Ill consider this. Tough I'm a bit afraid about MIUI/CM since those are different ROMs.
More comments are welcomed!
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You can try Faryaab's jvu (deodexed&rooted). It's hear in general section.
I think a jvu/cm9/miui rom is better for you than ics, coz they are bit buggy.
**tapatalked with galaxy s on CNA and Glitch kernel**
CM7 battery life is not good and call is not stable like rock.
MIUI battery life is better than CM7 but is not good. Call is rock
MIUI / CM7 video recording 720P is sucks. (temp fix = Change bit rate to 1000000)
ICS video playback is bad and some apps will not work or FC. (still on development)
Stock battery is good / call is stable / video playback and 720 recoding is good / but speed is low.
There is not a BEST ROM for all things.
If u can be happy with low speed stocks are awesome.
Best way: Try one to one all ROMs and choose the best for self needs.
Vogie said:
CM7 battery life is not good and call is not stable like rock.
MIUI battery life is better than CM7 but is not good. Call is rock
MIUI / CM7 video recording 720P is sucks. (temp fix = Change bit rate to 1000000)
ICS video playback is bad and some apps will not work or FC. (still on development)
Stock battery is good / call is stable / video playback and 720 recoding is good / but speed is low.
There is not a BEST ROM for all things.
If u can be happy with low speed stocks are awesome.
Best way: Try one to one all ROMs and choose the best for self needs.
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if you try every rom for sgs you are busy for the next 2 years. the most roms are in the first week very good till every app fills their cache and the partition is getting fragmented. the only method in my eyes to see if a rom is good is to use it for 3-4 weeks. even the battery does need 2-3 loading cycles which can take 4-5 days if the battery use is good and you want to see how it works when its recalibrated after flash.
especially we galaxy s users need to see others opinion in a thread like that. you really cant go through every thread and search for feedback between the whole bug reports and advices for bootloops
I can't decide between stock XXJVU (also not sure if I want the deodexed one) or DarkyRom or some other simple ROM that based on JVU (like SauroM). Any suggestions?
Go for stock jvu, odexed, add andip's theme, remove bloatware, use go launcher with ics theme, semaphore kernel 2.5.0 with ext4
Doesn't get any better than this
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Thanks a lot! Going to flash
Why so many post ?
Try MIUI (mintberry is very good) and revert to stock rom if you aren't happy.
MIUI has a lot of new things : it's not only the launcher and themes; Miui based on Ginger is stable. I try regulary to return to stock rom and every time I reflash an MIUI, too many things are missing on stock roms or CM7 !
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So here's the skinny. I'm new to the whole rooting-esque activities on a phone. The hero is my first smart phone, and i'm looking to expand what it can do.
BUT.
All of the roms I seem to find are 50/50 good/bad to me. They have some nice things like the OC/UV/Jit working, but then they do all sorts of stuff like live wallpapers, all sorts of color changes, lock screen changes, etc etc.
What I'd like, is a minimalist ROM, that as close as possibly matches the following:
SenseUI Dialer app
Auto OC to 710 (and underclock when not in use)
UV
Jit
Good Screen response (with no real keyboard, the onscreen MUST work well)
Things I don't want
Features that don't work (Camera, BT, MMS etc not working)
Instability (I'd trade less crazy for more stable)
See-ums like Live Wallpapers, and other things that do not add function other than visual "niceness"
So my question, is there anything like this?
honeybun
and not the sweet bread variety.
diicembr said:
So my question, is there anything like this?
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you do know there is a Q&A board
diicembr said:
So here's the skinny. I'm new to the whole rooting-esque activities on a phone. The hero is my first smart phone, and i'm looking to expand what it can do.
BUT.
All of the roms I seem to find are 50/50 good/bad to me. They have some nice things like the OC/UV/Jit working, but then they do all sorts of stuff like live wallpapers, all sorts of color changes, lock screen changes, etc etc.
What I'd like, is a minimalist ROM, that as close as possibly matches the following:
SenseUI Dialer app
Auto OC to 710 (and underclock when not in use)
UV
Jit
Good Screen response (with no real keyboard, the onscreen MUST work well)
Things I don't want
Features that don't work (Camera, BT, MMS etc not working)
Instability (I'd trade less crazy for more stable)
See-ums like Live Wallpapers, and other things that do not add function other than visual "niceness"
So my question, is there anything like this?
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i would say pick up the latest fresh rom, its made for just the basic stuff and you can add more if you want. jit can be very unstable at times so i dont know why you would want that
fresh http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=681856
oc-710 http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=722073
EDIT: this post goes in general as well as is doesnt really help anything "develop"
perfect one for you, and it happens to be the best.
I use what I think you are looking for exactly, with maybe the exception of the HTC dialer. The absolute best custom 2.1 Rom out there, that does not have much of the eye candy that just drains your battery and personally I find it to be clutter and annoying, it is caller DarchDroid 2.7.
It does not have HTC Sense whatsoever in it. It was built using a different source than what HTC puts on it, and I like it much better. It is very fast, responsive, touch screen works real nice, it has JIT, UV, OC to 710 by default, does not have live wallpaper. It is clean, good to the eye without the glitter, camera and all that works, basically everything works on the phone.
it uses all the standard aosp apps by default like aosp keyboard (which personally i find it very accurate and easy to use).
If the default apps do not please you, you can always dl and install apps from the market.
to check out and dl darchdroid, goto http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=703133
if you want to use all the google apps, then be sure to dl and install the google ****s on that page as well.
distantneighbor said:
I use what I think you are looking for exactly, with maybe the exception of the HTC dialer. The absolute best custom 2.1 Rom out there, that does not have much of the eye candy that just drains your battery and personally I find it to be clutter and annoying, it is caller DarchDroid 2.7.
It does not have HTC Sense whatsoever in it. It was built using a different source than what HTC puts on it, and I like it much better. It is very fast, responsive, touch screen works real nice, it has JIT, UV, OC to 710 by default, does not have live wallpaper. It is clean, good to the eye without the glitter, camera and all that works, basically everything works on the phone.
it uses all the standard aosp apps by default like aosp keyboard (which personally i find it very accurate and easy to use).
If the default apps do not please you, you can always dl and install apps from the market.
to check out and dl darchdroid, goto http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=703133
if you want to use all the google apps, then be sure to dl and install the google ****s on that page as well.
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this is great if you don't want sense, to me its a personal preference thing so you can try each. I used dd2.7 for a loooong time and it is the most stable rom Ive had with up to 30 hour battery life
I'm still using Ic3Rom v2.8. It is by far the best ROM I've flashed in terms of performance. It looks mostly AOSP, but still has the Sense dialer and people apps, with other Sense goodies in there as well. Other recent ROMs I've tried out are DarchDroid and the Cyanogen 6 test, and while I've really liked a lot about both of them, Ic3 is more stable and MUCH quicker than either.
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=663366&highlight=ic3
DD all the way...best rom ive used to date.. and i have tried them all!!! ic3rom close second!!!
i have to say darch droid, OR buufed Rom are indeed THE best ive used. Both are fast, Stable, AND both use less then 100mb onboard flash! good luck to u though.
I can't believe no one mentioned nfinitefx45's ROM which is 100% stock, with A2SD and everything working. Don't mind the screenshots at the bottom, that's what it looks like only if you flash the optional file for the zen aka MyTouch 3G theme.
As for the OC (and optional undervolt), get DarchKernel for nfinitefx rom here http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=705074
Users have reported this combo to be very, very fast. The only thing it doesn't have is JIT.
Like others mentioned, Iced HoneyBun ROM is also good, and DarchKernel is also available for it
IceRom 2.8
NOIDBETA still working on oc
codelockdown said:
i have to say darch droid, OR buufed Rom are indeed THE best ive used. Both are fast, Stable, AND both use less then 100mb onboard flash! good luck to u though.
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Definitely either one is a solid choice, but I prefer Buufed because its completely themed out. Its 100% AOSP (meaning its ridiculously fast), includes all the stuff you like (UV, OC, JIT) and is still very stable, and it looks pretty sweet.
c00ller said:
I can't believe no one mentioned nfinitefx45's ROM which is 100% stock, with A2SD and everything working. Don't mind the screenshots at the bottom, that's what it looks like only if you flash the optional file for the zen aka MyTouch 3G theme.
As for the OC (and optional undervolt), get DarchKernel for nfinitefx rom here http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=705074
Users have reported this combo to be very, very fast. The only thing it doesn't have is JIT.
Like others mentioned, Iced HoneyBun ROM is also good, and DarchKernel is also available for it
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I agree. Can't believe someone didn't mention nfinitefx's ROM. I am runing it right now and even without OC it runs very smoothly.
+1 for nfinitefx
Moved as not Development.
I'm sure I'm setting myself up here, but what advantages are there to the custom ROMs at this point?
I'm running stock Froyo 2.2 (I did update the radio to 5.08, though), stock bootloader, and I'm not rooted. I'm on T-Mobile in the Tampa, FL area.
I'm not sure if it's a coincidence, or just because most people that are posting on XDA are running custom ROMs, but I don't really have ANY of the problems most people on here have. My battery life is great, and the phone is overall VERY stable. I've tried other launchers, themes, etc., but I always prefer the stability of the stock setup over aesthetics.
The few issues I have had I can attribute to poorly written apps (force closes, battery vampires), or known hardware problems (mediocre 3G connectivity at times, etc).
I can understand if you have a phone like the MyTouch that never got any official updates after 1.6, or you want to try the next leaked software on your phone. But the Nexus One has had tons of official support and updates up to this point. Before Froyo was officially released, I found myself better off with stock recovery to load the latest, greatest Froyo build.
Sorry for the rambling, but I would greatly appreciate any education I can get on what's packed into these custom ROMs that everyone gets so excited about.
THANKS!
Don't really feel like typing all the reasons haha, but there's a lot of stuff to enjoy with custom roms. If stock works for you that's great. I don't know anyone that's ever gone custom and wanted to go back but I'm sure it happens. End of the day it's whatever makes you happy. A lot of us want more than just a great experience, we want to see what's possible. You can view the changelog for the latest Cyanogenmod(most popular custom ROM) build here http://github.com/CyanogenMod/android_vendor_cyanogen/blob/froyo/CHANGELOG.mkdn
1. More control over the appearance of the OS. Get rid of that ugly white notification bar and replace it with a sexy black one, for example.
2. Removing the stock apps from the phone that you don't use or want. Why have them sitting there taking up space and potentially resources for no reason? Sure they don't take up much in terms of storage space, but if you use a lot of apps, every little bit counts.
3. Undervolting and over/underclocking. Get that extra little performance boost, or cut it back. When I was UV'd to 800mV and UC'd to 806mhz, I noticed no performance difference or problems (note: I don't play 3d games on my phone) and my battery life was insane. 24 hours of normal use would put me to 65% give or take.
4. Relating to number one, more control over other things. I've ripped stock, but customized, apps from random ROMs and pushed them to my phone. Black Facebook & Twitter widgets (white ones are ugly), darkened (black & dark grey) stock messaging interface with white text, etc.
5. Trackball Alert Pro.
I'm sure that others can add more, but the above are the main reasons I rooted mine.
A tiny little thing called Apps2SD+, for example.
Multiple audio/video decoder support.
Lots of Linux binaries bundled.
Lots of modifications to stock software (contacts, browser) that increase their usefulness (for example, do you really like to type "about:debug" each time you want to change browser client after reboot?).
etc etc.
Thanks for all the great info.
The underclocking sounds interesting. I don't play any games on my phone, and extra battery life is always nice.
I'm not too interested in customizing the appearance too much. Coming from an iPhone, I'm pretty happy with the looks of the stock Froyo UI compared to that.
Again, thanks for the time you guys took to give me some information. I greatly appreciate it!
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Ryjabo said:
1. More control over the appearance of the OS. Get rid of that ugly white notification bar and replace it with a sexy black one, for example.
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5. Trackball Alert Pro.
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This was reason #1 and 2, 3, 4, 5, 6, 7 for me, respectively
Track ball skip song.. Enough said.
If I install a custom ROM, when a new one comes out, do I have to install the ROM from the start and I loose my setings etc. or do I just update it?
Depends on the ROM maker. Most make their ROMs backwards-compatible, so you can upgrade. Going between different makers' ROMs you mostly need to wipe and start fresh (though there are apps that can back up and restore pretty much everything).
I am thinking to try Cyanogenmod ROM, bot I don't wan't to cofigurate all the things when a new ROM comes out.
Over the last few weeks I've been trying out the different custom ROMs to see if there's really any performance benefits... My conclusion is that there isn't. For the most part.
My baseline for comparison is stock (Bell) JL2 2.2 + speedmod 13C. I've tried all the JS5/7/8 ROMs I can find (Doc, Darky, Serendipity, even the deodexed JS8 via Odin from the armani thread). No matter what rom, I always switch to speedmod 13C and I always restore all my user apps with Titanium and set my widgets/homescreen config exactly the same. I always use the JL2 modem.
In every case, stock 2.2 has consistently shown smoother animation - most noticeable in the notification drawer dropdown, but also in list scrolling. I also notice more frequent "lag" when switching between the app drawer and home screens with the custom ROMs.
App start times are virtually the same. Battery life is too close to call. GPS is more or less the same - 5-10M fix in < 30 seconds, but the accuracy is sometimes off by ~50M no matter what ROM. The only area where I find there is an improvement in the 2.2.1 ROMs is the browser - which obviously due to the new rendering is smoother when scrolling desktop web sites.
At the end of the day, the custom ROMs seem overall slower then stock 2.2 + hardcore. The only advantage I really see is the theme options and the browser. Just curious if anyone else has come to the same conclusion...
Hi dude
According to me the Galaxy S custom ROMs are quite a bit faster in general performance and also in benchmarks
With Darky's 9.3 Extreme Edition i get above 1700 on quadrant with all lagfixes enabled, voodoo kernel, XWJS5 firmware and XXJPY modem
Wish we could measure and compare the smoothness of ROMs somehow
Good luck
Quadrant is useless in measuring performance .
But 2.2.1 was much improved and the dependant upon what custom rom and settings you use it might be a bit or a lot better .
Personally i would have no problem using stock 2.2.1
jje
For me the miui Rom is the fastest I run on my Sgs, even it is just a beta.
Ok it is a 2.3 Rom based on the cm7, so I don't know if this counts for u.
Note: this is a personal feeling of the speed of the miui.
in my experience the 2.2.1 roms are a lot faster. in general you cannot compare a 2.2 rom with ext 4 (probably even nj) and speedmod kernel with a stock 2.2.1 rom.
the 2.2.1 rom may be a bit slower in your quandrant benchmarks but it is not noticeably slower with stock kernel in daily use and has twice the battery life. on custom kernels do not use any "lagfixes" with 2.2.1 roms, theres no benefit, i even dare to say they tend to make things worse (performance and of course battery life).
Js8, hardcore's kernel without any applied lagfix is the way to go for me. erm sry thats wrong, its miui now
i tend to agree. everytime a new 2.2.1 comes out .. "this is faster and smoother"
well off course it is right after install till things settle with no apps installed it is always faster..
i have not found any benefit from custom 2.2.1 roms or any other rom than the original jpy ( and that they are de-odexed to allow themes, but i prefer stock with minor tweeks (see below))
also using speedmod kernel.. jl2 modem (for usa 850 wcdma) recommended tweeks and do use ext4 and ext4nj as i find it does make installing apps, shortcuts, and gallery and my email program run much faster.
although rfs is pretty good now in 2.2.1
quadrant and other benchmarks are similiar but do vary between runs..
i have customized jpy myself with custom icons in framwork-res
and the modified twlauncher for landscape mode and transparency
and the custom camera that enables the power button
and a wifi config to enable adhoc
etc.
JJEgan said:
Quadrant is useless in measuring performance .
But 2.2.1 was much improved and the dependant upon what custom rom and settings you use it might be a bit or a lot better .
Personally i would have no problem using stock 2.2.1
jje
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Totally agree about the quadrant issue. It was given to provide a relative measure.One which usually doesn't work well
using Doc's Rom with 2.2.1 and I can't see how i could benefit from it being faster. It's great, much better than the 2.1 I had previously.
Why would 2.2.1 stock be much different in peformance to a 2.2.1 ROM?
Hi. Can anybody who flashes regularly give me a brief comparison of the current versions of dmod, benzrom and enox? Pros cons etc.
Is this kind of topic allowed? They all contain init.d and build prop tweaks etc, I want to know about smoothness, ram, bugs, user opinions etc.
Any brief summaries are welcome and of course if somebody wants to give me a long read I'd be happy to and discuss
P.S. Keep it cool, clean and fair?
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all of them are buggy ****, ****ty (not even working) unoptimized init.d causing problems, deodexed ****holes driving down the performance noticeably. battery life is ****ing horrible exept enox revenge, but enox also contains problems in non working widgets etc. (hope v5.0 is usable).
benz => ****ing ****ty bull**** ugly interface buggy options etc
dmod=> ****ty nonworking init.d, ugly interface, battery drainage by failed debloat
enox => its decent but nonworking widgets, failed debloating, slowed down cuz deodex, and fail init.d, this is the only rom having potential to develop to best rom, and better than rooted stock etc
rooted stock is the god tier option until theres fully working CM / PAC / AOSP ? or one of the roms gets really better (benz, enox, dmod).
peace. just the facts.
zetazeta2 said:
all of them are buggy ****, ****ty (not even working) unoptimized init.d causing problems, deodexed ****holes driving down the performance noticeably. battery life is ****ing horrible exept enox revenge, but enox also contains problems in non working widgets etc. (hope v5.0 is usable).
benz => ****ing ****ty bull**** ugly interface buggy options etc
dmod=> ****ty nonworking init.d, ugly interface, battery drainage by failed debloat
enox => its decent but nonworking widgets, failed debloating, slowed down cuz deodex, and fail init.d, this is the only rom having potential to develop to best rom, and better than rooted stock etc
rooted stock is the god tier option until theres fully working CM / PAC / AOSP ? or one of the roms gets really better (benz, enox, dmod).
peace. just the facts.
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actually dmod is one of best roms here , i'm using it and everything works , init.d also working , and where you seen "ugly interface"? i found it excellent and is same interface like standard stock ( almost ) use a launcher and you will get off ( nova launcher prime ) , and about battery it keeps me up 3 days even with wifi on use a prompt apps to set your phone ( du battery saver - set it to airplane mode during night so you can save some battery ) otherwise everything is excelent and is moving fast ,flawless not even freezes .
Well I wanted to keep it clean but I enjoyed the responses so far (om a natural pessimist) and you're roughly both correct. Deodex degrades overall performance and the debloats are mostly failed (always re-debloat them myself after installation), init.d tweaks have caused me problems.. Although I don't mind the user interfaces I am starting to think rooted stock is the best option unless somebody makes a real barebones option...
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BenzROM lots of useful features however i find that some are more than what I need
DmonROM nice look and feel, just a bit of a heavy ROM not suited to my requirements
enoxROM nice look and feel, could do with a few more tweaks and features
barebones ROM is what i was aiming for with my FaustROM, which ended up being a bit of a fail so have not done any additional work on it
instead have done a mod/port of the enox ROM which I have used some of the apks but used most of the other stuff from my original FaustROM
i get decent battery time, decent performance playing games like FF6 and Iron Man 3 without any lag
i only have my note for a month or so, i did a bit of research on roms, bur comparing to my old p990 the number of roms for n7000 is really massive
already checked number of sites as well i.e. http://www.galaxynoteroms.com/ but can't find rom that is right for me
basically i want stock based rom (with working pen, hdmi, fm radio) but tweaked so it is smoother (and preferably without that annoying 1,5 second lag after home button is pressed) i don't need any additional eye candy, disabled camera sounds and enabled call recording would be nice extras but i guess i could find ways to do it separately
which rom can you recommend to start my search?
Thread closed as its a best ROM thread.