Hi. I'm really enjoying my comeback to Android OS after being forced to he with IO5 for a while now...anyway, I love my Sensation XL with its beats software and all but found the Combination of PoweAmp player and Beats is Astonishing Experience But sadly it will last only 5 minutes or so then the Beats software Disabled! This only happen when I play stock player then stop then I play PowerAmp and so on..!
My Question is there a way to Enable Beats software with all players in my Phone!? This will make my Beats Monster Rock harder than it is with the PowerAmp and Beats  
Thanks in Advance
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My phone came with over earmuffs noise cancelling beats headphones.
And the only difference i can hear is the EQ levels are higher for bass.
Quite disappointed with that really, so with PowerAMP im sure it has an EQ, turn the bass higher, the high range sounds a few clicks up in gain. That little red B is useless actually.
What you should really be asking for is a better quality sound driver for the phone, which utilises the on chip features more effectively. Assuming it has a higher quality sound processor on board.
A bit More difficult, but you cant get the answer till you ask the right question.
I think this may be the right question??
Have you rooted your phone?
If you do, or have, then it's on the RCMix3D ROM as a tweak, it allows you to use beats audio enhancement with other audio players and your video player.
Might be an idea.
Thanks Sonnyhood yes you maybe right with your point regarding better driver through that claimed better sound chip!! In the matter of fact I don't mind and this my point of view that just tweak it to be open to all players like in the Rom mentioned above which I don't prefer I've through a lot of experimental ROMs and rooting in my previous Galaxy and HTC devices and believe me when I say I prefer stable Stock ROM! Just sayin. Beside for my ears the combination of both Beats + PowrrAmp is well satisfy my Ears try it and tell me what u think.
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can you explain me the advantages of beats audio?
imho SRS sounds much better than beats audio. much deeper bass and high tones are clear.
maybe it only give better sound an beats headphones?
Good question, I'd like to know too...
OK just found this:
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=1348659
This review is a pretty good analysis of what Beats actually does on a HTC phone (only one I've seen on the internet apart from speculation about the magical Beats)
http://www.engadget.com/2011/10/13/htc-sensation-xe-with-beats-audio-review/
Basically, if you dont use it with Beats headphones you get a crap experience unless you're into Top 40 Sine Waves Under 400Hz.
Thanks I will check that out.
I jumped the gun and got my Nexus 7 early. Due to my impatience, I'm left with the limited space my N7 has left. I use Skifta/Doubletwist/iMediashare to listen to my fairly large music collection on my PC and Droid 3, but nothing I can find supports Beats Audio like Google Music.
Is there a way, without using my external SD reader and OTG to listen to my music via WiFi/Bluetooth and still keep the great sound of Beats Audio?
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Not be one of those guys, but beats audio is just an eq setting chosen by dre and co that boosts bass scoops some mids and brightens up top.
Dre doesnt know what headphones you use or speaker system you use or the acoustics of the room you're in, so he doesn't know if it is an improvement or not.
Keep eq flatish or EQ until YOU like it on your playback system.
The whole thing is bit of a con, as a studio engineer producer myself it annoys the hell out me!
If u like it that what matters but you can do without it, is my point.
Edit . also Dr dre is in his 40's and a lifelong live performer and producer so his ears are knackered, mainly in the sense that he hears things duller than reality for youngsters. I wouldnt want him setting the eq on my playback. Now he can hear when a tune works of course but 16khz, prob not.
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bkmaracas said:
Not be one of those guys, but beats audio is just an eq setting chosen by dre and co that boosts bass scoops some mids and brightens up top.
Dre doesnt know what headphones you use or speaker system you use or the acoustics of the room you're in, so he doesn't know if it is an improvement or not.
Keep eq flatish or EQ until YOU like it on your playback system.
The whole thing is bit of a con, as a studio engineer producer myself it annoys the hell out me!
If u like it that what matters but you can do without it, is my point.
Edit . also Dr dre is in his 40's and a lifelong live performer and producer so his ears are knackered, mainly in the sense that he hears things duller than reality for youngsters. I wouldnt want him setting the eq on my playback. Now he can hear when a tune works of course but 16khz, prob not.
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Ditto... my kids keep wanting me to get them the beats headphones and I just laugh and hand them my Sennheisers from the studio and tell them to put some real ones on.
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I wouldn't spend money on the headphones, I have a set of my own that are just as nice without the price tag. I just like the Awesome Beats EQ. Its pretty simple and it definitely sounds better than the original DSP Manager.
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I'm considering picking up this phone and I've seen quite a few claims that if you disabling Beats will "replace the beats profile with one that reduces audio quality" instead.
Anyone confirm/deny this? If it's true, does it make a large difference? Are there any ways (Custom ROM, kernel, etc..) that fixes this problem?
PLEASE NOTE: I do not want comments on how the beats audio sounds better than anything else - I want comments on if turning it OFF will degrade the sound quality as some people claim.
It sounds better with beats audio but it sounds great with it off as well.
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There's no need to turn it off the quality of audio with beats is amazing!
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bornotty said:
There's no need to turn it off the quality of audio with beats is amazing!
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jdgreat4 said:
It sounds better with beats audio but it sounds great with it off as well.
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Sounds better is subjective. WHY does it sound better? Explain!
With my taste in music I want a "bright" sound with pretty controlled and laid back bass. I do consider myself quite enthusiastic about good sound quality and honestly, afaik Beats sounds, to me, the entire opposite of what I think is good sound quality.
Anyone can explain to me how the sound quality compares to any other phone they've used?
imho, it seems just making the volume louder, but cannot hear much difference... would anyone advise me if there is some kind of settings/ EQ etc? I can't find that... thanks
Timmyfoxeh said:
Sounds better is subjective. WHY does it sound better? Explain!
With my taste in music I want a "bright" sound with pretty controlled and laid back bass. I do consider myself quite enthusiastic about good sound quality and honestly, afaik Beats sounds, to me, the entire opposite of what I think is good sound quality.
Anyone can explain to me how the sound quality compares to any other phone they've used?
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AFAIK Beat is an active equaliser, meaning that it adjusts to the audio input so that the output isn't distorted and sounds as good as it can on a software level, sure you can create sound like this with an EQ, but then you may have to create sound profiles for ever genre rather than just playing it, but for the record it creates better sound quality which is consistent with all music types that i've tried it with. (magic )
Bass is stronger, delivering a crisper yet softer bass as opposed to a punchy crackle which you'll find on other handsets, trebles are fair and i've heard much louder but in terms of actual clarity it's right up there with the best, mid levels are decent too, so if you want a treble sounding phone then this isn't for you, but for everything else and for the whole package this is where it's at.
I'm referring to the sound that the phone itself delivers, if you were to couple this with a decent set of headphones (i got a pair of solo beats for free with my phone from carphone warehouse, i think they've sold out now) the sound is phenomenal, for picking up and playing a song it is second to none, not the galaxy s4 nor any of the other top of the range handsets can compare to it, the reason for this is because HTC has obviously done it's homework for the audio part of the system and used it as a major selling point.
I'm by no means a music enthusiast but i love them and several of my friends who are music enthusiasts (some producers and DJ's) have said that the sound is superb, obviously not as good as a studio but lets not forget that this is a phone that we're talking about here and for what it is it won't be beaten.
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AFAIK Beat is an active equaliser
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Yep, thus meaning the sound signature should be rather inconsistent as it changes from song to song, right?
dladz said:
Bass is stronger
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That's exactly what I do not want when using my Sennheiser headphones.
Boosting the bass gives a sound signature I really do not like too much. I want it to be balanced and rather a bit laid back as opposed to strong and, imo, overpowering. Bright and detailed with a wide soundstage is more my cup of tea.
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Can I remind you all that my question isn't about how the beats profile sounds like but just if the sound quality does noticeably degrade (even compared to other phones) when you DISABLE it?
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Yep, thus meaning the sound signature should be rather inconsistent as it changes from song to song, right?
That's exactly what I do not want when using my Sennheiser headphones.
Boosting the bass gives a sound signature I really do not like too much. I want it to be balanced and rather a bit laid back as opposed to strong and, imo, overpowering. Bright and detailed with a wide soundstage is more my cup of tea.
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Can I remind you all that my question isn't about how the beats profile sounds like but just if the sound quality does noticeably degrade (even compared to other phones) when you DISABLE it?
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Sounds like your already dead set against it, why don't you go down to a shop with your headphones and try it out, sorry but I'm not going to delve Into how I feel about the sound quality anymore, this thread and your responses are about as predantic as it gets. I tried to give you a detailed explanation and my experience of the sound on top of other people whom I know.
You don't appear to want to hear that so get one and try it for yourself.
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Sounds like your already dead set against it, why don't you go down to a shop with your headphones and try it out, sorry but I'm not going to delve Into how I feel about the sound quality anymore, this thread and your responses are about as predantic as it gets. I tried to give you a detailed explanation and my experience of the sound on top of other people whom I know.
You don't appear to want to hear that so get one and try it for yourself.
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None of these replies have answered my question about it though. so let me rephase:
I've seen several reviews claim that this phone use 2 different profiles for Beats audio;
1. The ON profile which activates the "enhancement"
2. The OFF profile which, rather than just deactivating beats audio, will reduce the sound quality below that of what the DAC is capable of.
Now may I have any comments relevant to this question (rather than just saying the sound quality of this phone is good or bad).
Also, not all stores here allow you to try out the phones like so unfortunately.
EDIT: Thanks to the LinusTechTips forum I found this video which pretty much explains what I've been saying: www.youtube.com/watch?v=Cdbn_pmxFic
Timmyfoxeh said:
Sounds better is subjective. WHY does it sound better? Explain!
With my taste in music I want a "bright" sound with pretty controlled and laid back bass. I do consider myself quite enthusiastic about good sound quality and honestly, afaik Beats sounds, to me, the entire opposite of what I think is good sound quality.
Anyone can explain to me how the sound quality compares to any other phone they've used?
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I think it's much clearer, and s bit louder. But clearer. I used to have an HTC sensation, where in the middle of your video or music you had a toggle to turn off Beats. And trust me, there is a difference. I even record university lectures on it, and beats tunes out the background noise and boosts that of the speaker. It does wonders . But you can always get the phone and turn off Beats and download an equalizer from the pay store.
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We're missing a critical piece of information from you : do you primarily listen through the phone's speakers or use headphones? Given that you don't seem to have a One yet (and thus have normal phone speakers which are pretty terrible ) you probably use headphones. The reason this is critical (and why the whole situation is kind of irrelevant) is because when using the phone speakers turning the enhancement off does make it sound worse IMO. However, if you're using headphones, turning it off makes it sound better assuming you have a decent pair of course. I don't know if you're like me and prefer a natural base level over an artificially high one, but if you are then you can just turn off beats and let the headphones do the work and it will sound just as good as using any other portable audio player out there. See why it's all irrelevant now? You can turn it on to use it when it's good and off when it's not, and if you personally feel that it's never good, then you can just turn it off and rely only on the hardware which is just as good as any other portable source.
So take home points (I'll keep them simple and clear) :
1. Yes it sounds worse if you turn off beats when using the phone's speakers.
2. It does sound better to those looking for a more natural sound profile to turn off beats when using a pair of quality headphones.
3. Turning off beats does not seem to activate an "intentionally low quality profile." That wouldn't make any sense, it's just a tweaked equalizer...
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We're missing a critical piece of information from you : do you primarily listen through the phone's speakers or use headphones? Given that you don't seem to have a One yet (and thus have normal phone speakers which are pretty terrible ) you probably use headphones (you mention in passing a pair of sens). The reason this is critical (and why the whole situation is kind of irrelevant) is because when using the phone speakers turning the enhancement off does make it sound worse IMO. However, if you're using headphones, turning it off makes it sound better assuming you have a decent pair of course. I don't know if you're like me and prefer a natural base level over an artificially high one, but if you are then you can just turn off beats and let the headphones do the work and it will sound just as good as using any other portable audio player out there. See why it's all irrelevant now? You can turn it on to use it when it's good and off when it's not, and if you personally feel that it's never good, then you can just turn it off and rely only on the hardware which is just as good as any other portable source.
So take home points (I'll keep them simple and clear) :
1. Yes it sounds worse if you turn off beats when using the phone's speakers.
2. It does sound better to those looking for a more natural sound profile to turn off beats when using a pair of quality headphones.
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Thanks for a good and detailed response - This is the kind of reply I was looking for!
Also. good to see an opinion from someone that seemingly have a similar taste in sound signature as I do.
Yep I'm thinking of the headphone performance indeed, speakers I usually don't care too much about, I can see why they seemingly optimized the speakers for use with the beats turned on.
Another thing to mention, I'm coming from the Galaxy Nexus which has a rather decent DAC. Nothing spectacular but decent enough. If you have any comments on the SQ difference between the One and the Gnex or any similar devices, do post them.
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Thanks for a good and detailed response - This is the kind of reply I was looking for!
Also. good to see an opinion from someone that seemingly have a similar taste in sound signature as I do.
Yep I'm thinking of the headphone performance indeed, speakers I usually don't care too much about, I can see why they seemingly optimized the speakers for use with the beats turned on.
Another thing to mention, I'm coming from the Galaxy Nexus which has a rather decent DAC. Nothing spectacular but decent enough. If you have any comments on the SQ difference between the One and the Gnex or any similar devices, do post them.
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Happy to help!
For practicality reasons I too usually use headphones. I'm sorry I've never had a galaxy line phone to compare to. But if you think about it theoretically, you're going to be playing mp3 files in all likelihood. Hopefully they're 320kbps at least, but still mp3s. At this level of listening comparing one source to another is pretty difficult I think; there's just too much compression already. Which is why I think contrasting portable audio source quality is a moot point, it depends more on the headphones. But fortunately you need to get up into the thousands of dollars in equipment to decern the finer details anyway.
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Happy to help!
For practicality reasons I too usually use headphones. I'm sorry I've never had a galaxy line phone to compare to. But if you think about it theoretically, you're going to be playing mp3 files in all likelihood. Hopefully they're 320kbps at least, but still mp3s. At this level of listening comparing one source to another is pretty difficult I think; there's just too much compression already. Which is why I think contrasting portable audio source quality is a moot point, it depends more on the headphones. But fortunately you need to get up into the thousands of dollars in equipment to decern the finer details anyway.
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Actually most of my collection is ripped in flac ^^
My setup at home is a far better source than any phone can produce, not super high end but still a good setup.
Nonetheless, I care for having a decent enough audio source from my phone as a large portion of my music listening is when away from home and I don't want to carry a ton of portable equipment and media players when I can have it all done from my phone.
Timmyfoxeh said:
Actually most of my collection is ripped in flac ^^
My setup at home is a far better source than any phone can produce, not super high end but still a good setup.
Nonetheless, I care for having a decent enough audio source from my phone as a large portion of my music listening is when away from home and I don't want to carry a ton of portable equipment and media players when I can have it all done from my phone.
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Oh nice, that's excellent! The thought of re-ripping all of mine is just to daunting...
From what I've read elsewhere on xda the One handles flac pretty well.
There's a lot of neat information here: http://www.head-fi.org/t/655952/htc-one
Page 2 will be especially interesting to you as someone had the Galaxy s and htc One.
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Oh nice, that's excellent! The thought of re-ripping all of mine is just to daunting...
From what I've read elsewhere on xda the One handles flac pretty well.
There's a lot of neat information here: http://www.head-fi.org/t/655952/htc-one
Page 2 will be especially interesting to you as someone had the Galaxy s and htc One.
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Sorry meant galaxy nexus
I had used before HTCHD2 . HTC Mozart 7. HTC Desire HD. HTC sensation XE, HTC one, HTC Droid Dna, now HTC Butterfly S
In my experience the sound quality best ever is Droid DNA, beats audio and deep bass very effective and clear.
i noticed in Butterfly S the bass not deep enough and the beats audio on and off almost same a very little different when turn off and on the beats audio in butterfly s in comparison with Droid DNA, besides when i turn on the X-Wide in jet audio making a little distortion, in Droid Dna no problem and very clear.
Usually am listen to music by connecting the phone in car audio system with amplifier and big sup woofer.
Anybody experience the Droid Dna sound Quality and the butterfly s.?
If any suggestion or solution please inform me.
Thanks
hmm, the DNA's DAC has a bit less dynamic range than the Butterfly s, so it may give a more "harder" sound. According to tests done by GSMArena the Butterfly s has a higher dynamic range and less IMD (a bit more THD though), so theoretically its sound quality should be "better." However, you're used to a more bassy sound you may not like it.
What volume are you listening at? Using the stock music app, volume levels above 11/15 can sound distorted using In-Ear headphones. See this thread http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=2423846
Using third-party players like PowerAMP can fix this at some higher volumes but there is an occasional clicking that occurs (similar to skipping on old Android Phones.)
Maybe give PowerAMP a try because when I used JetAudio on my HTC One X+, some of the enhancements distorted a bit.
If you don't want any clicking, I think stock player is the only one that works as it seems to use a different audio thread. (you can't use any equalizer app with it)
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hmm, the DNA's DAC has a bit less dynamic range than the Butterfly s, so it may give a more "harder" sound. According to tests done by GSMArena the Butterfly s has a higher dynamic range and less IMD (a bit more THD though), so theoretically its sound quality should be "better." However, you're used to a more bassy sound you may not like it.
What volume are you listening at? Using the stock music app, volume levels above 11/15 can sound distorted using In-Ear headphones. See this thread http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=2423846
Using third-party players like PowerAMP can fix this at some higher volumes but there is an occasional clicking that occurs (similar to skipping on old Android Phones.)
Maybe give PowerAMP a try because when I used JetAudio on my HTC One X+, some of the enhancements distorted a bit.
If you don't want any clicking, I think stock player is the only one that works as it seems to use a different audio thread. (you can't use any equalizer app with it)
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Thanks For Reply yeh i agree with you usually i listen to music by connecting the mobile in audio system car with amplifier and sub woofer actually droid dna in jet audio is better then Butterfly s deeper bass ,but butterfly s in pwoeramp is better then droid dna.
big thanks for your advise .