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WHY NO EQUALIZER on any Android phone??

1 or 2 program zic with an equalizer but no program to boost the bass or do like all MP3 player!
Strange no ?

As a person who enjoys quality music, I'd tell you to use your headphones to color the sound rather than the player. It's better to have more bass-responsive headphones than to boost bass and make it sound like crap, if bass is what you're looking for.
Just a note though, most people don't even know what the heck bass is, and seem to think mid-bass is good.
Sorry for the rant. I guess I appreciate quality more than most people.

Soaa-, I agree with you - half anyway. I have pretty damn good earphones - and it's always good to have an EQ, even if someone doesn't have good ear/headphones - or if they are using the Hero's speaker/s, it is still nice to have an equalizer - to change your music into noise - or to make it seem less tinny. Or whatever.
Bottom line: We need an EQ app; at the same priority as an app that can play your music backwards and at different speeds...

How hard can it be?

n00b001 said:
How hard can it be?
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Beats Audio against SRS , Dolby Mobile etc.

can you explain me the advantages of beats audio?
imho SRS sounds much better than beats audio. much deeper bass and high tones are clear.
maybe it only give better sound an beats headphones?

highKo said:
can you explain me the advantages of beats audio?
imho SRS sounds much better than beats audio. much deeper bass and high tones are clear.
maybe it only give better sound an beats headphones?
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Same here. I like SRS better than others effects. I'm using Westone UM2.

I use srs, beats sounds a bit tinny to me

If You are using HTC Innovation headphones, then SRS wil be the best one fitting you.

If you are using HTC headphones, you gave rocks in your head.
Sorry, but they are really bad IMO.

Take it from a sound engineer: beats audio is nothing but marketing. The actual sound quality you get is no better than a standard consumer product. In fact, it may well be worse, since they crank up the bass response for no real reason.

In certain cases, the sound hardware must put into considerations as well. Such as headphones accessories.

doctorsax said:
Take it from a sound engineer: beats audio is nothing but marketing. The actual sound quality you get is no better than a standard consumer product. In fact, it may well be worse, since they crank up the bass response for no real reason.
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thanks for your professional meaning. how do you rate the other settings like SRS, dolby mobile etc?

Beats practically made no difference on my phone. What does is, DSP manager. But you need your phone to be rooted for that. And trust me, You need to hear it to believe it!
Makes your sound, specially beats, better than any ipod ever made.

I think so. SRS is wider and louder than Beat.
Or maybe I need Beat earphone to run with it

I thought all these sound enhancement things were in the kernel
and that sense roms are based off HTC kernels with SRS
so therefore AOSP roms dont have SRS
Therefore none have beats or dolby
Please correct me if im wrong
All this has come from surfing around other forums, with kernels that say they have beats integration and rezound sound drivers etc.

Personally I don't like srs, beats audio seems to me that doesnt' change anything...
I think that beats driver does something only in phones that have a native hardware support...
BTW, I'm using ue-600..

there is a way to install the Beats Audio, which I RockoDev for all roms in Incredible Gingerbread S, and probe some zip but remain on bootloop to initiate or otherwise do not allow me to use the native player I get FC
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=1525226

Techno lovers?

I dabbled with sound modifications on my Atrix 4G back in the day to maximize bass without all of the distortion to provide clear sound with incredible bass. Since we still haven't gotten a custom recovery and do not have a fully deodexed ROM, this thread will provide a simple way to create similar sound quality and will be updated once development gets going for our devices.
I TAKE NO RESPONSIBILITY FOR ANY HARM THIS COULD DO TO YOUR SPEAKERS / HEADPHONES.
I WOULD NOT RECOMMEND USING THESE SETTINGS FOR ANYTHING BUT DIFFERENT VARIANTS OF TECHNO
NOTE: This is meant for high-end studio headphones and a really good sound system. Plugging in other headphones or low quality speakers could potentially ruin them. (Blew a couple of speakers in my old surround sound system.)
For headphones, this has only been extensively tested with a pair of Sony MDR-XB500's and these setting are meant specifically for them.
--this will change over time--
Required apps/mods:
PowerAmp
Step 1: Enter settings, sound, then wired stereo devices under audio effects and change it to Bass Punch.
Step 2a: in PowerAmp, go to the equalizer section. Make sure Equal, Tone, and Limit are turned on. (Limit helps remove distortion.)
Step 2b: Change the preset to techno and raise the preamp (furthest left bar) slightly. Then raise 62 to a bit above 31.
Step3: Under Tone, turn treble up all the way and bass a little over half. Stereo x should be turned up about 1/8.
The above steps should be somewhat okay for lower-end headphones and sound systems. To fully maximize the quality and bass for high-end sound systems and headphones, mimic what I did in the posted screenshots.
Screenshots coming soon. Won't let me upload them for some reason..
I'm also taking requests on different genres and music players to better suit those that aren't all about Techno like myself and the other shufflers here on XDA.
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Nice thread,dude.. I'm not an audiophile but your tricks attracts me to try it.
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I'm a freak when it comes to music lol. I've done similar things on a couple f friend's GS2's and whatnot. It'll be much better once we get development for our devices going. I'm hoping the old zip I made for my Atrix 4G will work for the HD once we get CWM or something. Lots of tweaks to Beats Audio and XLoud alongside DSP Manager. I still prefer using my 4G for music over the HD for now. Sound quality is absolutely amazing.
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Neroga said:
I'm a freak when it comes to music lol. I've done similar things on a couple f friend's GS2's and whatnot. It'll be much better once we get development for our devices going. I'm hoping the old zip I made for my Atrix 4G will work for the HD once we get CWM or something. Lots of tweaks to Beats Audio and XLoud alongside DSP Manager. I still prefer using my 4G for music over the HD for now. Sound quality is absolutely amazing.
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Yeah..Atrix has an amazing sound output. Still miss my Atrix audio quality. Droid 4 is the only phone I feel slightly better than Atrix.
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[Q] Poor streaming Bluetooth audio sound quality?

I'm having some issues w the BT Streaming audio quality - sounds a bit fragmented and tinny on some of the higher (brighter) sounds when playing music. I had the same problem on my Evo 3D, but it went away w/ the Evo LTE, and now its back w/ the HTC One.
Anyone else having issues?

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In general, blue tooth sucks for audio. It can't quite transfer data fast enough. There have been improvements over the years but it's a hardware limitation too.
I'm not sure how much better it sounded on the LTE, but it sounds just fine for me with beats on. Sometimes beats stops working, or so it sounds, and it sounds crappier.
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Ok thx....I was turning the Beats off b/c there was too much bass.
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Is it a problem with all sources? (MP3's, Spotify, Pandora?) Spotify and Pandora will, by default, set to lower quality streams and downloads which result in compression noise, most notably in higher and lower frequencies.
While BT audio isn't the best for audio, it's not all that bad. I've been using BT audio on my high-end car-fi and it sounds fantastic! Just as good as my iPhone sounded directly wired to USB. But, I need to turn off BeatsAudio to get any real sound quality. Beats is a glorified 'loudness' control and it destroys music on good systems. It does, however, make the HTC One speakers sound surprisingly amazing, esp for spoken word like podcasts and audiobooks.

EliLuc said:
Is it a problem with all sources? (MP3's, Spotify, Pandora?) Spotify and Pandora will, by default, set to lower quality streams and downloads which result in compression noise, most notably in higher and lower frequencies.
While BT audio isn't the best for audio, it's not all that bad. I've been using BT audio on my high-end car-fi and it sounds fantastic! Just as good as my iPhone sounded directly wired to USB. But, I need to turn off BeatsAudio to get any real sound quality. Beats is a glorified 'loudness' control and it destroys music on good systems. It does, however, make the HTC One speakers sound surprisingly amazing, esp for spoken word like podcasts and audiobooks.
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So, lower bitrate mp3s (128kbps) will have more noise on lower and higher frequencies?
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I'm having the same issues with my HTC One. The audio quality is noticeably distorted. Has anyone found a fix?

[Q] Beats audio sound quality question

I'm considering picking up this phone and I've seen quite a few claims that if you disabling Beats will "replace the beats profile with one that reduces audio quality" instead.
Anyone confirm/deny this? If it's true, does it make a large difference? Are there any ways (Custom ROM, kernel, etc..) that fixes this problem?
PLEASE NOTE: I do not want comments on how the beats audio sounds better than anything else - I want comments on if turning it OFF will degrade the sound quality as some people claim.

It sounds better with beats audio but it sounds great with it off as well.
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There's no need to turn it off the quality of audio with beats is amazing!
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bornotty said:
There's no need to turn it off the quality of audio with beats is amazing!
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jdgreat4 said:
It sounds better with beats audio but it sounds great with it off as well.
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Sounds better is subjective. WHY does it sound better? Explain!
With my taste in music I want a "bright" sound with pretty controlled and laid back bass. I do consider myself quite enthusiastic about good sound quality and honestly, afaik Beats sounds, to me, the entire opposite of what I think is good sound quality.
Anyone can explain to me how the sound quality compares to any other phone they've used?

imho, it seems just making the volume louder, but cannot hear much difference... would anyone advise me if there is some kind of settings/ EQ etc? I can't find that... thanks

Timmyfoxeh said:
Sounds better is subjective. WHY does it sound better? Explain!
With my taste in music I want a "bright" sound with pretty controlled and laid back bass. I do consider myself quite enthusiastic about good sound quality and honestly, afaik Beats sounds, to me, the entire opposite of what I think is good sound quality.
Anyone can explain to me how the sound quality compares to any other phone they've used?
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AFAIK Beat is an active equaliser, meaning that it adjusts to the audio input so that the output isn't distorted and sounds as good as it can on a software level, sure you can create sound like this with an EQ, but then you may have to create sound profiles for ever genre rather than just playing it, but for the record it creates better sound quality which is consistent with all music types that i've tried it with. (magic )
Bass is stronger, delivering a crisper yet softer bass as opposed to a punchy crackle which you'll find on other handsets, trebles are fair and i've heard much louder but in terms of actual clarity it's right up there with the best, mid levels are decent too, so if you want a treble sounding phone then this isn't for you, but for everything else and for the whole package this is where it's at.
I'm referring to the sound that the phone itself delivers, if you were to couple this with a decent set of headphones (i got a pair of solo beats for free with my phone from carphone warehouse, i think they've sold out now) the sound is phenomenal, for picking up and playing a song it is second to none, not the galaxy s4 nor any of the other top of the range handsets can compare to it, the reason for this is because HTC has obviously done it's homework for the audio part of the system and used it as a major selling point.
I'm by no means a music enthusiast but i love them and several of my friends who are music enthusiasts (some producers and DJ's) have said that the sound is superb, obviously not as good as a studio but lets not forget that this is a phone that we're talking about here and for what it is it won't be beaten.

dladz said:
AFAIK Beat is an active equaliser
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Yep, thus meaning the sound signature should be rather inconsistent as it changes from song to song, right?
dladz said:
Bass is stronger
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That's exactly what I do not want when using my Sennheiser headphones.
Boosting the bass gives a sound signature I really do not like too much. I want it to be balanced and rather a bit laid back as opposed to strong and, imo, overpowering. Bright and detailed with a wide soundstage is more my cup of tea.
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Can I remind you all that my question isn't about how the beats profile sounds like but just if the sound quality does noticeably degrade (even compared to other phones) when you DISABLE it?

Timmyfoxeh said:
Yep, thus meaning the sound signature should be rather inconsistent as it changes from song to song, right?
That's exactly what I do not want when using my Sennheiser headphones.
Boosting the bass gives a sound signature I really do not like too much. I want it to be balanced and rather a bit laid back as opposed to strong and, imo, overpowering. Bright and detailed with a wide soundstage is more my cup of tea.
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Can I remind you all that my question isn't about how the beats profile sounds like but just if the sound quality does noticeably degrade (even compared to other phones) when you DISABLE it?
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Sounds like your already dead set against it, why don't you go down to a shop with your headphones and try it out, sorry but I'm not going to delve Into how I feel about the sound quality anymore, this thread and your responses are about as predantic as it gets. I tried to give you a detailed explanation and my experience of the sound on top of other people whom I know.
You don't appear to want to hear that so get one and try it for yourself.
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dladz said:
Sounds like your already dead set against it, why don't you go down to a shop with your headphones and try it out, sorry but I'm not going to delve Into how I feel about the sound quality anymore, this thread and your responses are about as predantic as it gets. I tried to give you a detailed explanation and my experience of the sound on top of other people whom I know.
You don't appear to want to hear that so get one and try it for yourself.
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None of these replies have answered my question about it though. so let me rephase:
I've seen several reviews claim that this phone use 2 different profiles for Beats audio;
1. The ON profile which activates the "enhancement"
2. The OFF profile which, rather than just deactivating beats audio, will reduce the sound quality below that of what the DAC is capable of.
Now may I have any comments relevant to this question (rather than just saying the sound quality of this phone is good or bad).
Also, not all stores here allow you to try out the phones like so unfortunately.
EDIT: Thanks to the LinusTechTips forum I found this video which pretty much explains what I've been saying: www.youtube.com/watch?v=Cdbn_pmxFic

Timmyfoxeh said:
Sounds better is subjective. WHY does it sound better? Explain!
With my taste in music I want a "bright" sound with pretty controlled and laid back bass. I do consider myself quite enthusiastic about good sound quality and honestly, afaik Beats sounds, to me, the entire opposite of what I think is good sound quality.
Anyone can explain to me how the sound quality compares to any other phone they've used?
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I think it's much clearer, and s bit louder. But clearer. I used to have an HTC sensation, where in the middle of your video or music you had a toggle to turn off Beats. And trust me, there is a difference. I even record university lectures on it, and beats tunes out the background noise and boosts that of the speaker. It does wonders . But you can always get the phone and turn off Beats and download an equalizer from the pay store.
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We're missing a critical piece of information from you : do you primarily listen through the phone's speakers or use headphones? Given that you don't seem to have a One yet (and thus have normal phone speakers which are pretty terrible ) you probably use headphones. The reason this is critical (and why the whole situation is kind of irrelevant) is because when using the phone speakers turning the enhancement off does make it sound worse IMO. However, if you're using headphones, turning it off makes it sound better assuming you have a decent pair of course. I don't know if you're like me and prefer a natural base level over an artificially high one, but if you are then you can just turn off beats and let the headphones do the work and it will sound just as good as using any other portable audio player out there. See why it's all irrelevant now? You can turn it on to use it when it's good and off when it's not, and if you personally feel that it's never good, then you can just turn it off and rely only on the hardware which is just as good as any other portable source.
So take home points (I'll keep them simple and clear) :
1. Yes it sounds worse if you turn off beats when using the phone's speakers.
2. It does sound better to those looking for a more natural sound profile to turn off beats when using a pair of quality headphones.
3. Turning off beats does not seem to activate an "intentionally low quality profile." That wouldn't make any sense, it's just a tweaked equalizer...
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Xerro-Five said:
We're missing a critical piece of information from you : do you primarily listen through the phone's speakers or use headphones? Given that you don't seem to have a One yet (and thus have normal phone speakers which are pretty terrible ) you probably use headphones (you mention in passing a pair of sens). The reason this is critical (and why the whole situation is kind of irrelevant) is because when using the phone speakers turning the enhancement off does make it sound worse IMO. However, if you're using headphones, turning it off makes it sound better assuming you have a decent pair of course. I don't know if you're like me and prefer a natural base level over an artificially high one, but if you are then you can just turn off beats and let the headphones do the work and it will sound just as good as using any other portable audio player out there. See why it's all irrelevant now? You can turn it on to use it when it's good and off when it's not, and if you personally feel that it's never good, then you can just turn it off and rely only on the hardware which is just as good as any other portable source.
So take home points (I'll keep them simple and clear) :
1. Yes it sounds worse if you turn off beats when using the phone's speakers.
2. It does sound better to those looking for a more natural sound profile to turn off beats when using a pair of quality headphones.
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Thanks for a good and detailed response - This is the kind of reply I was looking for!
Also. good to see an opinion from someone that seemingly have a similar taste in sound signature as I do.
Yep I'm thinking of the headphone performance indeed, speakers I usually don't care too much about, I can see why they seemingly optimized the speakers for use with the beats turned on.
Another thing to mention, I'm coming from the Galaxy Nexus which has a rather decent DAC. Nothing spectacular but decent enough. If you have any comments on the SQ difference between the One and the Gnex or any similar devices, do post them.

Timmyfoxeh said:
Thanks for a good and detailed response - This is the kind of reply I was looking for!
Also. good to see an opinion from someone that seemingly have a similar taste in sound signature as I do.
Yep I'm thinking of the headphone performance indeed, speakers I usually don't care too much about, I can see why they seemingly optimized the speakers for use with the beats turned on.
Another thing to mention, I'm coming from the Galaxy Nexus which has a rather decent DAC. Nothing spectacular but decent enough. If you have any comments on the SQ difference between the One and the Gnex or any similar devices, do post them.
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Happy to help!
For practicality reasons I too usually use headphones. I'm sorry I've never had a galaxy line phone to compare to. But if you think about it theoretically, you're going to be playing mp3 files in all likelihood. Hopefully they're 320kbps at least, but still mp3s. At this level of listening comparing one source to another is pretty difficult I think; there's just too much compression already. Which is why I think contrasting portable audio source quality is a moot point, it depends more on the headphones. But fortunately you need to get up into the thousands of dollars in equipment to decern the finer details anyway.
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Xerro-Five said:
Happy to help!
For practicality reasons I too usually use headphones. I'm sorry I've never had a galaxy line phone to compare to. But if you think about it theoretically, you're going to be playing mp3 files in all likelihood. Hopefully they're 320kbps at least, but still mp3s. At this level of listening comparing one source to another is pretty difficult I think; there's just too much compression already. Which is why I think contrasting portable audio source quality is a moot point, it depends more on the headphones. But fortunately you need to get up into the thousands of dollars in equipment to decern the finer details anyway.
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Actually most of my collection is ripped in flac ^^
My setup at home is a far better source than any phone can produce, not super high end but still a good setup.
Nonetheless, I care for having a decent enough audio source from my phone as a large portion of my music listening is when away from home and I don't want to carry a ton of portable equipment and media players when I can have it all done from my phone.

Timmyfoxeh said:
Actually most of my collection is ripped in flac ^^
My setup at home is a far better source than any phone can produce, not super high end but still a good setup.
Nonetheless, I care for having a decent enough audio source from my phone as a large portion of my music listening is when away from home and I don't want to carry a ton of portable equipment and media players when I can have it all done from my phone.
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Oh nice, that's excellent! The thought of re-ripping all of mine is just to daunting...
From what I've read elsewhere on xda the One handles flac pretty well.
There's a lot of neat information here: http://www.head-fi.org/t/655952/htc-one
Page 2 will be especially interesting to you as someone had the Galaxy s and htc One.
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Xerro-Five said:
Oh nice, that's excellent! The thought of re-ripping all of mine is just to daunting...
From what I've read elsewhere on xda the One handles flac pretty well.
There's a lot of neat information here: http://www.head-fi.org/t/655952/htc-one
Page 2 will be especially interesting to you as someone had the Galaxy s and htc One.
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Sorry meant galaxy nexus