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I just contacted safeware.com and purchased PDA insurance for my AT&T Tilt for $52.00/annually. They repair/replace the device up to $550.00. Since AT&T doesn't even offer you the option of insurance, it certainly is worth the $4.30/month for piece of mind.
Any Luck With This Insuance?
I was wondering if anyone has used this service and has had any luck with it?
I was able to get mine coverd for $650 under my house ins with a $0.00 deductable. It was about $45-55 per year... maybe check into that.
Safeware insurance...
Yaron2 said:
I just contacted safeware.com and purchased PDA insurance for my AT&T Tilt for $52.00/annually. They repair/replace the device up to $550.00. Since AT&T doesn't even offer you the option of insurance, it certainly is worth the $4.30/month for piece of mind.
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Hi!
I got insured for my TILT @ safeware for 79 USD for an year on $550. how could you get it soo cheap for 52 USD?
I will be speaking to them today about this..
thanks..
Raj
What about SquareTrade insurance? They send me an email with 35% off. Anyone with any experience with them?
- TKN
I've used SquareTrade, but not for a phone. Last week I just made a claim on my amp. They're giving me my money back, minus shipping charges. They seem pretty good and it was a seem less process.
legit or internet slander?
legit or internet slander? What do you guys know about this?
http://reviews.ebay.com/WHY-NOT-TO-...0003415423?ssPageName=BUYGD:CAT:-1:LISTINGS:4
Any other worthwhile providers besides Safeware?
Any other worthwhile providers besides Safeware?
Anyone???
So...anyone???
Safeware
Not sure if anyone else is using safeware but I decided to try them. Since I'm in NY they have a discounted rate for NY folks (surprising). It's $52.00/year with a $50.00 deductible. Not bad for piece of mind if I break it by accident. Worse case I'm out $102.00 for 1 replacement.
This "Insure the Tilt" begs the question: "Why?"
I've had the unfortunate experience of having three different people drop mine three times onto a tile floor in a hospital. Nothing broke. Still works too.
Had someone else broke it, would it have been covered by the policy and would I have been able to collect from them or the person who broke it? If not, just fork over another $300 and get another rather than pay $60 year for insurance.
I'm wagering I'll replace it with another within two years time anyway. So marches technology. Why again, pay $60 to be locked into what will soon be old technology?
Mack5305 said:
This "Insure the Tilt" begs the question: "Why?"
I've had the unfortunate experience of having three different people drop mine three times onto a tile floor in a hospital. Nothing broke. Still works too.
Had someone else broke it, would it have been covered by the policy and would I have been able to collect from them or the person who broke it? If not, just fork over another $300 and get another rather than pay $60 year for insurance.
I'm wagering I'll replace it with another within two years time anyway. So marches technology. Why again, pay $60 to be locked into what will soon be old technology?
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Can you currently buy this phone without a new contract for $300? Wouldn't we have to buy it at full price as a replacement?
FYI, my homeowners policy will not insure a phone if it is under $400. Since I got mine for <$200, it does not qualify. Also, my wife's iPhone missed it by $1
Mack5305 said:
This "Insure the Tilt" begs the question: "Why?"
I've had the unfortunate experience of having three different people drop mine three times onto a tile floor in a hospital. Nothing broke. Still works too.
Had someone else broke it, would it have been covered by the policy and would I have been able to collect from them or the person who broke it? If not, just fork over another $300 and get another rather than pay $60 year for insurance.
I'm wagering I'll replace it with another within two years time anyway. So marches technology. Why again, pay $60 to be locked into what will soon be old technology?
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You're not locked into anything... it's renewable each year. I purchase my phone for $300.00 from AT&T. Replacing the phone will cost $500.00 as you can't get the phone for $300.00, at least not from AT&T. The insurance also covers theft, accidental damage, cracked screen, etc. I rather pay the $52.00 for 1 year and have piece of mind if I do drop my phone or something falls on it/etc. I may not be lucky as you to drop it a number of times and nothing breaks. For me it's worth it at least for the 1st year. After that I'm sure the prices of the phone will drop so no need to renew.
I can buy the Tilt from ATT for $276 with no contract (using my business account @ 45% off).
Do these insurance companies just pay "cash" for the replacement or do they send out a new phone?
Unfortunately the average user doesn't have a business account. Would be nice though.
As for the replacement they send out a new phone. Most likely a refurb as HTC/AT&T does the same for in-warranty replacement.
I just got the ATT Tilt from ebay few days ago. I have not really used it yet. I am going to check with safeware about the insurance policy.
Thanks!
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I just checked the safeware.com to get a quote. They did not have an option for "cell phone". I selected "laptop" with the coverage of $600. It turns out the annual cost is $69 with $100 deductible.
How did you get the coverage for your cell phone? by calling them? or do it online?
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I just checked the safeware.com to get a quote. They did not have an option for "cell phone". I selected "laptop" with the coverage of $600. It turns out the annual cost is $69 with $100 deductible.
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So you effectively spend $169 per year for a replacement Tilt?
In a year, AT&T will probably sell them for $50 just to get people online with a data plan.
Remember when you had to pay for a Motorola Razr phone? Some places they're free now with a plan.
You have two companies for the Cell phone insurance.
http://www.wirelesssafeguard.com/ Which I bought my insurance through & http://www.safeware.com/ which I thought was a waste of money
Wireless Safe Gaurd
Pro - "ATG’s Safeguard Program helps you protect your wireless device against any type of damage, loss, and theft."
Con- $100 Deductable
Safeware
Pro - No Deductible
Con- read the below and also read the contract. What a useless contract, they don't cover any defects or break down from use, plus tons of other crap about environemental variables, basically it is only loss insurance or if you smash your phone, which you'd have to do if it stopped working to get it covered.
Thank you very much for the inquiry. A damp environment refers to the actual environment in which a unit is used in. For example, a unit is kept in a greenhouse which has higher than normal amount of humidity, and due to the constant exposure, internal parts begin to rust. A liquid spill however, is a single physical event which causes the unit not to function, which is not caused by the environment. The electrical breakdown refers to electrical components which stop working over time, whether it is caused by a faulty part or simply wear and tear. Similar to the other explanation, a power surge is a single physical event which damages the unit. A surge hits the unit and burns out components or parts. I hope that this helps explain the difference, but please do not hesitate to contact me if any further clarification is required.
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I’ve reviewed the portable electronics agreement on your site; these appear to be contradictory based on interpretation.
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http://www.safeware.com/policies/portable_electronics_policy.pdf
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http://www.safeware.com/faq.php
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Accidental damage is defined as an unexpected and unintentional external event, resulting in physical damage to the insured equipment. Examples of accidental damage include, but are not limited to Drops, Falls, Collisions, and Liquid Spills.
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A liquid spill(#9) could be considered a damp environment(B4)
The failure of an electronic device is a type of “electrical breakdown” (B3) and would be an unintended, hence an accident(#9). Power surge is also a type of electrical breakdown(B3).
Can you please clarify as to what is actually covered or not covered in the contract terms.
Thank you
galenmd said:
Can you currently buy this phone without a new contract for $300? Wouldn't we have to buy it at full price as a replacement?
FYI, my homeowners policy will not insure a phone if it is under $400. Since I got mine for <$200, it does not qualify. Also, my wife's iPhone missed it by $1
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Correct me if I'm wrong, but wouldn't it cost more than $400 to get a replacement from AT&T without a new contract if it were rendered inoperable ?
My homeowners covered mine at a recplacement cost of $600 and I'm paying $30/yr. I know that renter's insurance is cheap and will cover it and more.
stozmon said:
Correct me if I'm wrong, but wouldn't it cost more than $400 to get a replacement from AT&T without a new contract if it were rendered inoperable ?
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Yes. The replacement cost was irrelevant to them. Don't try to make sense of it.
Ok, so first hello to everyone! First time posters but I've been trolling around for a little bit, trying to get research on different phones offered by HTC and how they operate on each network, etc. and how customizable they are. Basically, I've concluded that the Tilt(Kaiser) is the one for me, graphics driver issue or not.
My only concern is that ATT does not offer a warranty for it, so what happens if I drop it in water, etc. Not saying that this is going to happen, but I always like to cover my bases. Does HTC offer an extended warranty, or any kind of protection at all? I don't want to end up paying 300 bucks and after a year or so get screwed because it is not working or something. I'm not really made of money, I mean, I can afford the phone, but not really buying another one, especially because you can't really (as far as I know) get a new one at the same price you'd pay for one with a new 2 year contract.
Anyway, sorry for the side track, and also if this was already answered, I hadn't seen it in my searches.
there was another thread regarding insurance issue...maybe theres info there for u
I would recommend you to check out Square trade. I am a veteran phone seller ( not really a pro ) and I always recommend my buyers with square trade. Their price is reasonable and their service is pretty much hassle free.
Beside that , since there is no warranty anyway, get the refurbished phone. Refurbished phone is checked twice , so the chance of defected item is low. With 2 years contract you can gat a Tilt for 150 bucks, which is a great deal compare with 450-550.
When I spoke to ATT last week, they told me by early june ALL phones (minus iphone of course..) will be insurable including the tilt...but the tilt and similar phones will have a higher deductable ($125ish if i remember right)
aberz said:
Beside that , since there is no warranty anyway, get the refurbished phone. .
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Warranty Exchanges
Wireless devices carry a one-year warranty from date of purchase. To make a warranty claim after the first 30 days from purchase, call 1-800-801-1101. Apple branded equipment is covered by Apple's one-year Limited Warranty; refer to apple.com for details
What do you think? If Samsung is unable to repair the GPS via a future software update, would you just accept it, or would demand your money back?
I would demand my money back.
It's near useless for me as it is now.
Now I'm carrying two devices. My 3GS to continue using my TomTom, do my email, read my news. But I use the SGS for Internet on the go (at home I use my iPad). Hate carrying two devices having to make one a hotspot.
Here's a thought. Go ask your retailer. You are entitled to your money back if you aren't happy with the GPS. Have you even tried yet?
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Here's a thought. Go ask your retailer. You are entitled to your money back if you aren't happy with the GPS. Have you even tried yet?
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Yes, I've tried. They want me to pay penalty for breaking the contract, and they would not accept the phone back. They would only replace it within 14 days with another new phone. After 14 days, they will only repair the phone, but not give me a new replacement. The Telco shop only acts as the middleman, and responsibility lies with Samsung to them.
Had I taken the $59 per month plan, then I could return it, no question asked within 7 days, and I only have to pay for any calls and data use. But I'm on the $49 per month plan because I wanted to commit myself to using Android by burning my own bridge. It's a mistake on hindsight. I didn't expect it to be so bad.
I feel that Samsung should work with the Telco to do exactly what Apple and ATT did, which is to allow people to back out of the contract without penalty, and have the phone returned. After all, this is a far far more seriously problem than in iPhone 4 in my mind at least.
The responsibility (under Australian law) is with the retailer, although they consult with a specialist (ie the manufacturer) to determine if there's a fault.
If the phone is faulty, and does not perform the task for which it was purchased you are entitled to a full refund of the purchase price.
www . accc . gov . au
Have faith that It will be fixed, since the phone is still in very early days.
I'm putting my trust in Samsung! Hopefully we won't get burned.
yea if you send it to the manufacturer they will 'try' to fix it, and its its hardware they obv cant anyway, then you just complain again once u get it back and im assuming they would have to give you your money back.
id just be patient and wait a few more weeks for samsung to release their firmware, or just use the JM2 which fixes it i think
Eaglesteve, surely you have consumer protection laws in Aus? The device is clearly not fit for purpose, therefore breaking the terms of your contract In the UK all major retailers will try to sell additional cover or insurance; although the consumer protection act makes them legally obligated to repair or replace electrical goods for up to 5 years after the date of purchase. My point; retailers rely heavily on consumer ignorance You didn't purchase the device directly from samsung, the store can't absolve responsibility by claiming to be a "middle man".. plus most sales assistants know jack **** about the legalities of your agreement.
Write a formal complaint to the retailers head office, send the letter via recorded delivery and state that you've been advised to provide a response period of 14 days before taking your complaint further. You don't want to look for a replacement, make it clear that it's a manufacturing fault and not specific to your device. There should be an AUS ombudsman that deals with consumer complaints (bit.ly/8Xl55G), find the correct governing body and lodge a formal complaint, they should provide a reference for your case; include it in the letter to the retailer. In the UK you would then be able to take your complaint to the small claims court, however most companies will **** bricks and fold before it reaches this stage. The bottom line is the device was sold to you for its GPS capabilities, the information provided by the retailer mislead you to into the agreement; you've signed up under false pretences, reason enough for the contract to be declared void
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yea if you send it to the manufacturer they will 'try' to fix it, and its its hardware they obv cant anyway, then you just complain again once u get it back and im assuming they would have to give you your money back.
id just be patient and wait a few more weeks for samsung to release their firmware, or just use the JM2 which fixes it i think
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Im gonna flash to JM2 today, but Im getting a bit weary of the faith in Samsung.
Firstly, I'd point out that Samsung announced the phone in March. Three months perfecting the phone, and they still couldn't get the GPS sorted.
Another month later and with many firmware releases during that time, and still it doesn't look like its fixed. (though I haven't tried JM2 yet - in any event, the rumour is that it still doesn't fix onto more than 8 satellites despite seeing more, and it still doesn't lock onto anything with an SnR < 20)
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Simon
yup, as far as samsung is concerned the device is already sold, they sell it on big bulks to retailers
it's the retailer duty to either give you the refund or not.
samsung will only accept RMA, or Warranty services
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I feel that Samsung should work with the Telco to do exactly what Apple and ATT did, which is to allow people to back out of the contract without penalty, and have the phone returned. After all, this is a far far more seriously problem than in iPhone 4 in my mind at least.
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IIRC (it's been a while since I bought the original iPhone), this isn't something new due to antenna gate and it's just Apple's spin machine doing what they do well. Contracts in the US telecom industry, not just on AT&T, are written in a way that this review period exists.
The only difference here is that there is a slight difference in restocking fees, where they wont be applied like they have at times in the past. This isn't really "Apple working with AT&T" as much as touting a possibility that typically exists, there are certain exceptions by carrier but one reason why AT&T isn't combating this is the same reason they were hesitant to accept Android phones, and they ultimately gimp Android phones, Apple is just $$$$ to them. Once again AT&T beat their quarterly record for profitability and they are the most profitable carrier in the US even though they are #2 in customers. Needless to say, they are at the whims of Apple, but this isn't a big compromise on either's behalf.
Amazing. So far, 1/3 of people are happy to accept faulty goods.
http://www.boygeniusreport.com/2010/07/18/samsung-captivate-now-available-from-att/
Some people here have returned it to AT&T, while I don't know it has been penalty free, I think you need to not put the onus on Samsung and need to have a better comparison in-mind.
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yea if you send it to the manufacturer they will 'try' to fix it, and its its hardware they obv cant anyway, then you just complain again once u get it back and im assuming they would have to give you your money back.
id just be patient and wait a few more weeks for samsung to release their firmware, or just use the JM2 which fixes it i think
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I'm waiting for my replacement now. If the GPS still doesn't work, I might do that. As for JM2, I don't believe it do anything based on whatever limited reading I did on some of those threads.
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Amazing. So far, 1/3 of people are happy to accept faulty goods.
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I guess there's two main to three main things that could be at play here:
1) GPS isn't important to these people, therefore they are voting on their bias rather than from an objective viewpoint
2) GPS isn't a core functionality, therefore it's hard to say it justifies a return or that it is "faulty" as you put it
3) GPS is imprecise by nature, so users who have a strong need for it should be more informed about their purchase and the onus is on them to do their hw or lay in the bed they've made.
I am abstaining because I find the premise somewhat flawed, first of all. I think retailers and/or carriers are responsible, just like in other industries/product lines. If I buy a wireless router that doesn't perform well in, let's say it's wired performance I don't go direct to the manufacturer there. If I buy a camera that advertises 12MP but seems to produce ****ty results, I again, go to my retailer. In here, I also have a slight bias, originally being in the U.S. where we typically buy are phones through a carrier who give us a bit of extra protection because of the way contracts are set up they don't want to lose a customer totally (also part of the premise of the argument is based on a carrier logic that I don't think is applicable in this thread, but that might just be my opinion and I'm alone there).
So, I think the premise is flawed, and perhaps my logic is flawed, but I don't want to just vote "no" just because if either is flawed. However, I don't disagree with the "no" camp.
Lots of good advice from many of you. I'll have to talk to them if mynnext unit does not work. I hope it will work, since half the people polled claim that theirs are perfect.
If it does not work, I'll reason with Optus to get bout of the contract. I wonder how much of the $49 is for the phone and how much is for the data and calls. Should I simply withhold my payment, return the ozone, and pay them for actual calls and data used?
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Amazing. So far, 1/3 of people are happy to accept faulty goods.
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Yeah that's just the Samsung reps voting.
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Lots of good advice from many of you. I'll have to talk to them if mynnext unit does not work. I hope it will work, since half the people polled claim that theirs are perfect.
If it does not work, I'll reason with Optus to get bout of the contract. I wonder how much of the $49 is for the phone and how much is for the data and calls. Should I simply withhold my payment, return the ozone, and pay them for actual calls and data used?
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Depends on how much you paid for the phone. 24 month contract? Tmo is selling their, slightly gimped model for $500 USD, I think that's on the high end of what they might get from international suppliers, depending on how big they are even though the international version is more costly.
So, ~500USD/24~20USD/month, maybe less, if fully subsidized. Forgive me for cutting corners and not looking into your location specifically, but I figure it's better than looking for the absolute cheapest UK/Euro/Thailand location.
There is no upfront cost for the phone. Just 24 months x $49. I had offered to continue with the plan but with an alternative phone and topping up the difference in monthly fee) but they refused that.
Trying to debate if I should get it or not. Hear they will replace it no matter what...
Only $5 a month plus since I got my phone and do the math of 2 years, it's obviously only $120 which is still cheaper than most Captivates sell for.
Opinions?
I have always paid the $5 extra for the insurance. I have also used it a couple times.
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I personally think it is always useful as like you said even if you use it only once then it is still cheaper then buying it retail
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I have always paid the $5 extra for the insurance. I have also used it a couple times.
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For what exactly?
Do they charge a deductible though?
I used it for obvious reasons, phone replacement and the deductible was $50. The insurance is worth it. It is $5 extra a month... you really need to think it over? lol
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Well, it all depends on the deductible too. I mean if they charge a $150 deductible and you pay $5 for a year. $150+60=$210 and at that point you could still find a Captivate for that price if I'm not mistaking.
I do not have AT&T insurance as I don't live in the US, but I have extended warranty on my phone through Future Shop. I used my extended warranty to get this phone, actually. My LG Eve's microSD slot stopped working so I paid the difference and got a Captivate. There's no deductible on my plan, as it's a warranty not insurance.
Where can you find a Captivate for $210?
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Insurance is $5/mo. You have to pay a deductible and they have two tiers. Tier one has a $50 deductible and Tier two has a $150 deductible. Samsung Captivate is Tier Two...HTC Aria, for example, is Tier one.
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Insurance is $5/mo. You have to pay a deductible and they have two tiers. Tier one has a $50 deductible and Tier two has a $150 deductible. Samsung Captivate is Tier Two...HTC Aria, for example, is Tier one.
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So what classifies as tier one? Certain phones?
Bottom line if I have my Captivate with the AT&T $5 a month insurance and drop in water, how much would I pay for a new one?
Probably going to do it; just being cheap. lol
I always pay for it for just the first year I own a new phone and then cancel it. that way I'm eligible for at least an early upgrade.
Isn't att supposed to cover our phones for a year? That's what I heard... I went in once cause of a.bad flash and the fne.gentleman that helped me told me that the phone has a 1 olyear warrenty plan on it already.
Yeah most devices come with a 1 year limited warranty. Thats usually through the manufacturer, not the provider
I figured I was better off with it than with out it. At least I know I have that "insurance" AT&T provides.
I've been with AT&T since before it was AT&T (down here in Miami it was Bell South Mobile, then Cingular, now AT&T) and I've always had insurance. I've used it more than few times. Few more bucks a month in exchange for not having to buy a new handset at full price if something happens? I'm in!
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So what classifies as tier one? Certain phones?
Bottom line if I have my Captivate with the AT&T $5 a month insurance and drop in water, how much would I pay for a new one?
Probably going to do it; just being cheap. lol
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You'd pay $150.
Tip: If you do actually end up breaking your phone, I've found it's better to say you lost it. Otherwise they occasionally try to get you to send the handset to them so they can attempt to fix it...leaving you without a phone for a period of time.
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So what classifies as tier one? Certain phones?
Bottom line if I have my Captivate with the AT&T $5 a month insurance and drop in water, how much would I pay for a new one?
Probably going to do it; just being cheap. lol
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As noomoto said, you'd pay $125 and shipping I believe. What consitutes as tier 1 is determined by AT&T. Basically, any "high-end" new phone such as the captivate constitutes as tier 2. Things like the "free" phones you get when you sign up for a new/renew subscription are considered tier 1. I may have my tier's mixed up but yeah, thats the general rule. There's a list you can find on AT&T website that explains which phones have a $125 deductible and $50 deductible. See link.
http://www.wireless.att.com/learn/en_US/pdf/wireless-phone-insurance-deductible-schedule.pdf
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Yeah most devices come with a 1 year limited warranty. Thats usually through the manufacturer, not the provider
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That is correct, most devices come with a 1 (or 2) year warranty and it is through the manufacturer. However, the manufacturer warranty does not cover things like "I lost my phone" or "Someone stole my phone" or things that break the terms of the warranty agreement (i.e. dropping it in water, accidental drops and breaking the screen). Manufacturers warranty technically cover things that are manufacturing defects (i.e. speakers suddenly not working, buttons suddenly stop working, touch screen suddenly stops responding).
AT&T covers everything. If you are accident prone and tend to drop your phone, lose your phone, etc, than it is better to pay the extra AT&T insurance. As a previous poster said, typically AT&T will make you take it to a repair center if there is any kind of malfunction in the product (i.e. if you bricked your phone or speakers not working). But if you flat out say "I lost my phone", then you pay the deductible and you typically get a refurbished phone, if you get lucky, sometimes you get a new phone.
EDIT: Im sorry, Tier 1 deductible is $50. Tier 2 deductible is $125...not $150
When I had to get a replacement (I have the AT&T insurance plan), they sent me the replacement phone first and had me ship the broken phone back in the same box with the battery. I thought I'd get two batteries from the incident at least, but I'm not at all lucky. I'm pretty sure they ended up charging me 150, but I'm not sure. You might want to by the Captivate at another outlet (best buy, radioshack) and get one of their warranties, might be cheaper in the long run.
Nope
Never needed insurance
I always keep a screen protector and case on all my phones
So that I can sell them when I upgrade and because a permanent scratch on a screen would drive me so nuts I'd have to buy a new phone, right now I can just replace the screen protector
That said I'm a programmer, I know my brother in law is in construction and he'd never go without phone insurance, it depends on how you and your life treats your phone.
Ok, So here's my plan:
1. Go to AT&T website. Login. Add a line
2. Choose the phone I want with that new line for the discounted price or free with two year contract.
3. Receive the phone in the mail with brand new sim and everthing
4. Only take the phone out the box never touch the sim, unlock the phone, put different sim from another phone service in it and start using the phone with that service (or simply swap the sim for the line I'm already using)
5. Never activate the new line
Will i still have to pay for the second line if I never activate it? Or do I walk away sky free with my new phone?
someone said they have done this and it worked, I want feedback before I try and end up getting stuck paying another bill for a second line I don't need or want.
Wonder if this works? Would love to know!
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Eventually they will wonder what happened to the phone they sent to you and either ask for it back or activate it on their end I am sure. What do you do when you don't send a phone back to them?
aka how to try to cheat the system and fail
this won't work because when you agree to purchase at the discounted price, it comes with the expressed agreement that you are creating a new line that you will use and pay for 1 year or 2 years. if you do not activate the line, you will be charged for a line cancelation/ETF. without any months used, that means you'll pay for discounted price of phone and an ETF of at least $350
basically, AT&T isn't stupid. if you've thought of this idea, it's likely they have as well.
Kaik541 said:
aka how to try to cheat the system and fail
this won't work because when you agree to purchase at the discounted price, it comes with the expressed agreement that you are creating a new line that you will use and pay for 1 year or 2 years. if you do not activate the line, you will be charged for a line cancelation/ETF. without any months used, that means you'll pay for discounted price of phone and an ETF of at least $350
basically, AT&T isn't stupid. if you've thought of this idea, it's likely they have as well.
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I don't know....That's why I asked second opinions, but how can they cancel what was never activated? And I haven't signed any agreements? So why would I pay a early termination fee for something I never activated, or terminated?
nightwanderer said:
Eventually they will wonder what happened to the phone they sent to you and either ask for it back or activate it on their end I am sure. What do you do when you don't send a phone back to them?
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Why would you have to send something back that you paid for? That's like buying something from Wal-mart, and not using it the way it was supposed to be used so they ask you to bring it back... Not Likely. Lol
Klyentel said:
And I haven't signed any agreements? So why would I pay a early termination fee for something I never activated, or terminated?
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clicking agree is the same thing as signing your name on paper.
when you go to the web site and ask for a second line (with a phone) you must click "agree" to a contract. read the contract. you agree to pay for the phone if you do not activate the second line with a 2 year(or whatever) contract. that is why they send you a phone, because you agree to be a customer for a couple years.
Klyentel said:
Why would you have to send something back that you paid for? That's like buying something from Wal-mart, and not using it the way it was supposed to be used so they ask you to bring it back... Not Likely. Lol
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when you buy something from walmart you BUY it, you PAY MONEY for it. so OF COURSE they wouldnt ask you to bring it back. but if you RENT a car, and dont bring it back, they charge your credit card, as you agreed too.
yeah dont do that! someone may have fallen through the cracks here and there, but believe me they dont give you the phone on just good faith. they can charge you for the phone full price on the credit card, they can activate your line anyway and charge you for the two years of service, they can put it on your credit report, and they can charge you with theft. maybe they have a bad system and people get away with it, maybe in a court you can get a really good lawyer and get out of it for only lawyer and court fees(more expensive anyway) but all in all it is not a good idea.
Kyle...
for more information on " clicking agree " please go to
http://www.southparkstudios.com/full-episodes
and watch the season 15 premier of South Park
Human-cent-i-pad
- (official site no legal issues)
"why wont it read?"
Well glad I didn't try it, but I do know someone that got away with it. Maybe they got lucky.
TRusselo said:
when you buy something from walmart you BUY it, you PAY MONEY for it. so OF COURSE they wouldnt ask you to bring it back. but if you RENT a car, and dont bring it back, they charge your credit card, as you agreed too.
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Unless it's offered for free, you do actually pay for the phone though. You just get a discounted price.
Eample, if the phone retails at $599, they give it to you for $199 if you agree to two years of service.
So after you pay the offered price, the phone is yours. They cannot ask for it back, regardless if you terminate service early or whatever. And they charge your credit card right up front before they even ship it out. So that is what I met by the Wal Mart analogy, Once you pay for something its yours
its called early termination fee... they get the rest of the cost of the phone out of you.
so ya pay 0$ or $199 on a more expensive phone, you can keep it and not do the contract
but you have to pay for cancelling the contract.. so you basically pay the remainder of the phone.
and EVERYONE else that has even bothered answering this thread agrees.
face it you are wrong.
and lcd damage
water damage
brick...
your sig doesnt inspire trust in you....
TRusselo said:
its called early termination fee... they get the rest of the cost of the phone out of you.
so ya pay 0$ or $199 on a more expensive phone, you can keep it and not do the contract
but you have to pay for cancelling the contract.. so you basically pay the remainder of the phone.
and EVERYONE else that has even bothered answering this thread agrees.
face it you are wrong.
and lcd damage
water damage
brick...
your sig doesnt inspire trust in you....
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Wtf? I never said I was right! All I did was ask for some feedback you prick. I just wanted to see what others thought before I tried, and now I know. Now why are you getting so sensitive about the issue? Do you work for AT&T or something? Dam.
And my sig has nothing to do with you, and most those phones weren't mine they were my wifes, except for the G1, either way not your concern, go inspire a life
TRusselo said:
its called early termination fee... they get the rest of the cost of the phone out of you.
so ya pay 0$ or $199 on a more expensive phone, you can keep it and not do the contract
but you have to pay for cancelling the contract.. so you basically pay the remainder of the phone.
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Since you like correcting people, and I'm sure 1400 of your 1700+ posts on xda are probably you being a ****....Allow me to correct you.
Just because you inquire a fee for something it does not reflect the price value of the merchandise. Example, you pay $199 for a phone that is originally $599, you cancel contract early and pay the ETF of $250 ( I don't know where the **** you got $350 from ) You look at it as if you paid full price of the phone right? Wrong. You may have spent in total almost 500 bucks anyway, but not on the phone. Because if you paid full price for the phone which is $599 plus the ETF of $250...your total spent would be about 850 dollars. Big difference right? Right.
Moral to the story, before you try to be a smart ass, you first have to be smart, otherwise, that just makes you an ass!
i never started name calling or being sensitive, and obviously i dont work for att im canadian.
why did you bother asking us if you know you are right?
im done.
grow up.
Thread closed, since this won't lead to nothing. Also, discussion in how to avoid payment or leaning to cheating it doesn't sound good.
If you want to do it, do it. No need to discuss it in a public forum.