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Hello app developers,
After seeing MeeGo video demonstrations on Nokia N9, only feature i miss in my HD2 WP7 Mango is the Double tap on the screen to wake up/unlock.
I accept that the hardware buttons on the HD2 are good, but still this feature and SWkey app/Zmooth (as in android) will eliminate use of hardware buttons.
I did ask that developers should try to build apps for this!
It's cool feature I guess!
matrixnhd2 said:
Hello app developers,
After seeing MeeGo video demonstrations on Nokia N9, only feature i miss in my HD2 WP7 Mango is the Double tap on the screen to wake up/unlock.
I accept that the hardware buttons on the HD2 are good, but still this feature and SWkey app/Zmooth (as in android) will eliminate use of hardware buttons.
I did ask that developers should try to build apps for this!
It's cool feature I guess!
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I played with the N9 recently, and found it to be very cool and well designed. The best part for me is the double tap to unlock. I wonder whether such thing could be developed for our HD2?
I would think no, since the N9 uses AMOLED which means that the whole screen could be active without using any power, and thus the screen would still be 'active'. Is there a way to do so with HD2? Maybe use the proximity sensor to register movement and turn screen on.
Any opinions?
erlern said:
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I played with the N9 recently, and found it to be very cool and well designed. The best part for me is the double tap to unlock. I wonder whether such thing could be developed for our HD2?
I would think no, since the N9 uses AMOLED which means that the whole screen could be active without using any power, and thus the screen would still be 'active'. Is there a way to do so with HD2? Maybe use the proximity sensor to register movement and turn screen on.
Any opinions?
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I dont think such thing would be available. I doubt it.
Even if (somehow) it was available, it would be a huge battery consumer.
people have had enough problems with the phone waking up in their pockets, sending texts, making calls, playing music and taking pictures all without you knowing. Even with the lockscreen password protected.
Making it easier to do this seems to me to be a bad idea
So I was messing around with the bluetooth on my coworker's 7 this morning and paired it with my Apple BT trackpad. Much to my surprise it showed up with 10+ point multi-touch support (tested in markers app)
it doesnt appear that the touch radius stuff is supported, but its still kinda interesting.
For comparison on my DZ running ICS i get a cursor and you can click but thats about it.
Interesting, does the N7 it's self support 10 touches? That is very impressive to me. I love when the amount of touch data a screen can handle greatly exceeds what is necessary. That means it won't ever be a problem.
Take screens for example, if the max the human eye can see is 300 dpi. Just make all screens at least 600 and we will never have screen issues again. Well...Resolution wise XD
But serious, were you able to control the N7 with that thing?
Locklear308 said:
I love when the amount of touch data a screen can handle greatly exceeds what is necessary. That means it won't ever be a problem.
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Until we evolve an extra finger on each hand, or use our nose/other body parts to click stuff!
yeah, its actually pretty intuitive to control using the external pad. its not quite as natural as touching the actual screen, but i could see it working for something like a presentation or app demo where you didnt want to obstruct the view.
amusingly it crashes markers with 12 touches (i think the trackpad supports ~50 but i may be wrong)
I can only test 10 at the moment but the internal touch hardware does handle at least 10.
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=JrK1wQjh980
They are testing palm print and fingerprints detection by touch screen. Seems that touch resolution is enought to reconize one print from another
And this is the cool stuff: They use a nexus 5 to test... Very interesting
Are you sure it isn't a modified nexus 5?
no
i think that is modified nexus 5. i didnt saw it before
Well judging by what they describe, they are using any touchscreen as a scanner. I don't thing you need to modify anything internally, I think it's more software based.
Basically you just need to root your nexus, and have access to the digitizer directly in order to track patterns when you touch the screen.
Based on the patterns you get to track thanks to the digitizer, you can authenticate or reject an user. For me, it looks totally software based.
Remember that app you use to track how many points you can do on a touchscreen? If you press one it shows you the coordinates and so on and so forth until you reach 10. I think it's based on something like that, except it's probably much more advanced tracking since you can get patterns for fists/ears/fingers etc.
Judging by the looks of it though, I don't think it can read your "fingerprint". I don't think the resolution is enough. So, instead if reads your fist print since the resolution should be enough to calculate who's who. (I don't know if i`m making any sense right now lol).
Anyway, in short, looks okay, as long as you use fists/ears , whatever. Since Google introduced fingerprint auth, I don;t think they are going to allow fists and ears prints in their APIs so I don;t think you;re going to be able to use your fists for buying stuff from Google play, still , for a nerd like me the video is very satisfying.
its a project by Yahoo,... saw it last month i think,... for more info here
personally i think it wont be that secure and in cold climates it would be pretty hard to do that,...
chiragkrishna said:
its a project by Yahoo,... saw it last month i think,... for more info here
personally i think it wont be that secure and in cold climates it would be pretty hard to do that,...
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agreed, this is why i was thinking Google will never allow this in their APIs.
doesn't seem practical, making a fist gesture to unlock your phone or placing it to your ear to unlock or gripping the phone to unlock.
It'll be socially awkward and won't be accepted as much as fingerprint sensors, besides I don't think it'll be that secure anyway.
Fingerprint sensors are the way to go :good:
As more and more devices get these sensors, I think in the long run.. fingerprint sensors will be cheaper
Think about it, A replacement Touch ID sensor on eBay is like $5... it's just the software implementation on it.
Anyone have experience with this? Does it fit well? How feel to push the buttons?
check out youtube videos for the s6 edge + keyboard cover. I'm sure it is similar in build, if not better.
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Anyone have experience with this? Does it fit well? How feel to push the buttons?
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Personally, no, I think they're hideous and make the phone look like it's from 2003. But to each his own...I'm sure if you like physical keyboards then you'll like it.
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Personally, no, I think they're hideous and make the phone look like it's from 2003. But to each his own...I'm sure if you like physical keyboards then you'll like it.
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I loved my SE P800, P900 and P990. So the design is one of my favorite...secondly I like physical keyboards.
I hope I will receive the cover on the next week.
hi, is there a support forum for this accesory?I bought this case only to realise that chinese language keyboard is not supported =/ just wonder when they plan to support if any?
I've had it on my edge for a few days and I like it. Had a discount code and a gift card so figured why not. Takes some getting used to but i can type pretty fast on it and autocorrect helps. I don't like that you have to press the alt button for a period but the dollar sign has its own key. The case itself isn't very protective and my spigen style ring doesn't stick to the back of it. Overall I like typing on it better than the actual software keyboard.
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I've had it on my edge for a few days and I like it. Had a discount code and a gift card so figured why not. Takes some getting used to but i can type pretty fast on it and autocorrect helps. I don't like that you have to press the alt button for a period but the dollar sign has its own key. The case itself isn't very protective and my spigen style ring doesn't stick to the back of it. Overall I like typing on it better than the actual software keyboard.
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Did you have to do anything special to make it work? Mine does nothing.
Is stocker launcher required to be running? (mine is, still doesn't work)
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Nope just put on the back of the case and the keyboard. What type of screen protector are you using?
just bought this keyboard cover for my s7 edge as well, but i cant get the physical keyboard to work, the screen is not resizing when the keyboard is snaped on
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I have the case and Im going to get rid of it lol. It just doesnt feel right while typing on it and if you have any theme set up on your phone it will default back o the stock theme that came with the phone as well as set our keyboard back to the samsung stock one. The slim case without the keyboard does feel awesome though since its extremely minimal.
Could you provide some photos about that?I want to search one for my device.
NickinVA said:
Did you have to do anything special to make it work? Mine does nothing.
Is stocker launcher required to be running? (mine is, still doesn't work)
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I had same issue, didn't seem to work when I installed the cover but restarting phone with cover on fixed this issue. No additional software required.
Does anyone have any issue with the space bar on their keyboard case? It doesn't seem to register my space bar presses pretty frequently and is slowly driving me insane... Other keys are fine though, only the space bar has issues!
P/S I sent back mine to samsung once and they gave me a new set but when i went home to test the same issue remained
I have the asian version of S7 edge (SM-G9350) the key mappings are all just wrong. So disappointed. what a waste of money.
For those who are looking for S7 Edge keyboard photo, I attached the comparison with Priv.
Hope this helps.
Ps: Keyboard on priv is much more comfortable. on s7e its very hard one
http://imgur.com/a/WwBxv
has anyone seen this keyboard cover in silver color?
silver exists for the s6 edge but I can not find it for the s7 edge
leeelvin said:
I had same issue, didn't seem to work when I installed the cover but restarting phone with cover on fixed this issue. No additional software required.
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It did pop up a message saying "samsung accessory update" when I first connected it, and downloaded some micro-update to get it to work.
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Xephyr3 said:
Does anyone have any issue with the space bar on their keyboard case? It doesn't seem to register my space bar presses pretty frequently and is slowly driving me insane... Other keys are fine though, only the space bar has issues!
P/S I sent back mine to samsung once and they gave me a new set but when i went home to test the same issue remained
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Make sure you don't have any screen-protectors stuck to your phone before attaching the keyboard.
I had a stick-on double-side screen protector glued to my phone and after I attached the keyboard cover, keys worked erratically or not very well. It turned out that the extra thickness from the sticker (fractions of a millimeter, really) made the case not snap-on perfectly. As soon as I unglued its back, everything started working much better. I still have the front piece protecting the screen glued on (it doesn't interfere with the keyboard).
Multiple problems with the cover
Here's a list of problems the cover is causing that I've found so far:
1. The always-on display doesn't work when the keyboard is attached. Meaning you can't see the clock when the phone is in sleep mode.
2. If you start with the keyboard attached, then press the power button to put the phone to sleep mode, you'll see no always-on display. If you then detach the keyboard, the always-on display will show up, but it won't update! Meaning you'll see the same time displayed for hours afterwards (until you press the power button). Can be VERY confusing if you don't realize it.
3. When in Termux with the keyboard attached, you can see in htop that the 2 com.sec.android.inputmethod processes take about 95% and 30% of a CPU core. Also /system/bin/surfaceflinger is taking about 20%. As soon as you detach the keyboard, CPU usage goes down to reasonable near-zero levels. You can feel the phone getting a little warmer than usual, too.
4. The on-screen overlay behind the keyboard (one that receives keystrokes from it) is white! Why would they waste battery for displaying bright white which can't be seen? AMOLED is supposed to take less power when black so it's quite obvious it should be black. Displaying labels for buttons is pretty meaningless behind a hardware keyboard anyway. The bright white also casts a glow onto the rest of the screen which can be seen at night.
5. There's apparently no way to replace the stock hardware-keyboard app. It would be nice if its sources were available somewhere so you could remap / hack the buttons a bit. The euro key is pretty useless and it would serve way better as ctrl or tab, for instance. Personally I'd have it switch modes so that you could use WSAD for arrows and other letters for the rest of the important missing keys.
6. The split-screen view just doesn't work (in Marshmallow), it tells you you need to detach the keyboard first.
If not for these issues, my keyboard would probably stay attached most of the time. Because of those issues, I have to keep flipping it on and off.
Overall the keyboard's hardware is pretty nice, it feels smooth but provides the much-needed tactile feedback quite well. The fact you don't need to charge anything is awesome. The downsides are lack of backlight and the need to take up your screen space (unlike the better keyboard that the Captivate Glide had (I'll miss you, Cappy... maybe some day someone will port the latest Android to you...)).
Don't know why you don't look at a Blackberry if you're still super convinced you need a physical keyboard.
I've always found the ones you can add to your phone are clunky and not worth your time.
Jxck said:
Don't know why you don't look at a Blackberry if you're still super convinced you need a physical keyboard.
I've always found the ones you can add to your phone are clunky and not worth your time.
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Because the Priv can't be rooted and you can't install any other ROM on it. Also, it's full of bloatware that you completely deactivate.
I had a Priv for almost a year, now I'm gonna sell it. I love sliding keyboards, but the whole device is just too big, too unergonomic (all those edges, it's really uncomfortable to make a phone call). Even the keyboard didn't fully convince me, I had way better keyboards in previous (Android and Windows Mobile) smartphones.
So after a brief period of using the S6 with they official keyboard cover, today I got an S7 edge and the keyboard cover. The keys are a bit bigger than with the S6 keyboard, its surface feels a bit better too.
But now that I've installed Lineage on it (one of the main reasons to get the S7 were custom ROMs), the system doesn't detect the keyboard by itself.
So I need to find the drivers for it to install them manually on Lineage...
Anyone else experiencing spen glitchy behavior? Example I'll be hovering the pen over the screen and it'll scroll or select things without me touching the screen and sometimes it won't register the spen touching the screen when I actually try to scroll, or I'll use the square app at work and when my clients need to sign the screen it'll register the pen before even touching the screen. I really like the spen feature but at this point it's too unreliable to even use, is this normal behavior? My wife's note 8 exhibits the same behavior. Tmo note 8 and we both factory restored before setting up and did clean install no transfer data crap.
do you have a screen protector ?
No not me works great and I use my Spen everyday.
L1N3B3CK said:
do you have a screen protector ?
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No I do not, my finger touches are fine, it's only when I use the spen does it act glitchy, do you think it's defective?
No issues with mine on Verizon, with a screen protector.
Shuthefrontdoor said:
Anyone else experiencing spen glitchy behavior? Example I'll be hovering the pen over the screen and it'll scroll or select things without me touching the screen and sometimes it won't register the spen touching the screen when I actually try to scroll, or I'll use the square app at work and when my clients need to sign the screen it'll register the pen before even touching the screen. I really like the spen feature but at this point it's too unreliable to even use, is this normal behavior? My wife's note 8 exhibits the same behavior. Tmo note 8 and we both factory restored before setting up and did clean install no transfer data crap.
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Are you using a case with a magnetic kick stand?
My guess is yes.. can't use that with the Note's digitizer as the S-pen tech is magnetic based
If this is not the case (pun intended) then you probably have a faulty S-pen or Digitizer
L1N3B3CK said:
do you have a screen protector ?
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ingenious247 said:
Are you using a case with a magnetic kick stand?
My guess is yes.. can't use that with the Note's digitizer as the S-pen tech is magnetic based
If this is not the case (pun intended) then you probably have a faulty S-pen or Digitizer
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No just a regular super slim case, it's so annyoing as it only exhibits the problem sometimes not always , I guess I'll have to take it back
You're not using a magnetic car mount either, right?
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ingenious247 said:
Are you using a case with a magnetic kick stand?
My guess is yes.. can't use that with the Note's digitizer as the S-pen tech is magnetic based
If this is not the case (pun intended) then you probably have a faulty S-pen or Digitizer
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ingenious247 said:
You're not using a magnetic car mount either, right?
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I do in the car but I noticed this issue immediately after first spen use and I didn't have a magnetic car mount yet, so I don't think they are related and I don't use the spen when I'm in the car
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I also absolutely love the S Pen and I've had the note line for years. This time around with the Note 8 I'm experiencing a weird glitch that's happening with Google products ie Google Chrome Google app Google Maps. Especially when I use the Google app to read different articles. When I open the articles it will literally freeze and not recognize any touch. However if I open that article with my finger and scrolled just a little bit with my finger then I don't suffer the same problem but if I initiate scrolling with the S Pen it freezes every time. This is really frustrating to the point where I have to force close the app to get it to respond at all.... Google and Samsung please figure this out!!!! It really is maddening!!!
At least Spen works with no issue on my phone. I use it pretty often for making notes and also I found it faster and convenient to write in chat messages..
Try changing the nib. I had similar problems which seem to have gone after a nib change, maybe coincidental.
No problem on mine at all. See if you can borrow spen from somebody and test with different pen maybe? Also I would reset the phone and test again, before sending it back.
I exchanged the phone and so far it's been good, fingers crossed
Are you maybe triggering some of the events and tools that the S-pen does without touching the screen? One place this first "caught" me off guard was reading email. When you hover just of the screen it gives you choices and can do actions. There are also scroll choices in Chrome that fire up by hovering.
Just to make sure, I suggest watching
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If it isn't behaving like in the video and you know you aren't triggering hover events, then I would definitely get it replaced.
I can't understand why third party case makers continue making cases with magnets in them for our Note series. It usually causes issues with the S-Pen. Like, a foldable stand can just be designed to "click" in place when not in use. You don't need a magnet for that. And for the wallet type cases they can just use velcro or something to clip it back into place without a magnet.
Any update? I also sent my phone in for repair of a similar issue and when I got it back, it seems like nothing was fixed. Samsung wrote that they "replaced cosmetic" whatever that means?
I had a similar issue with my note 7, as the recall started and I refused to surrender my note7, claiming warranty was not an option, I bought a spen, and, that solved it, to this day works fine, in this case with a note 8, you must go and claim warranty or, try with some one else's spen to sort the problem out
Thanks for the reply. Unfortunately in my case it seems like the s pen is not the issue. I've gone into a Best Buy and used their pen and I still encounter the same issue :/
DrIzzLe85 said:
I also absolutely love the S Pen and I've had the note line for years. This time around with the Note 8 I'm experiencing a weird glitch that's happening with Google products ie Google Chrome Google app Google Maps. Especially when I use the Google app to read different articles. When I open the articles it will literally freeze and not recognize any touch. However if I open that article with my finger and scrolled just a little bit with my finger then I don't suffer the same problem but if I initiate scrolling with the S Pen it freezes every time. This is really frustrating to the point where I have to force close the app to get it to respond at all.... Google and Samsung please figure this out!!!! It really is maddening!!!
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I had the same problem when searching with Google and the result was shown in Chrome. Using the SPen and the site hang. Using my finger no problem. I then changed from Samsung Internet Browser to Chrome as default browser. The problem was gone.