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This is definitely a FANTASTIC device in the market as of today. But I wonder why samsung reduced its price sooooo much?
Its just a little higher than s2 so obviously people will opt for Note than s2 (if size doesn't matter to them).
But where is the catch? I mean why they suddenly reduced Note's price THAT MUCH? From 800+ US dollars to 500+? Isn't that "to good to be true" deal?
I wonder what's samsung motive behind reducing Note's price.
a) Have they started making models with cheaper material now to fit in the latter price?
b) They reduced the price to justify their huge predicted target sales for Note?
c) Wanted people to stop buying s2 so that Note can get the lime light?
d) Reduced price so that people go for Note and by the time when enough sales have been made, they will lauch s3.
Marketing strategy. I went to buy S2 but there was lil difference in price so I bought Note, don't regret it.
When S3 is released Nexus, Note and S2 will be even cheaper.
Boy124 said:
Marketing strategy. I went to buy S2 but there was lil difference in price so I bought Note, don't regret it.
When S3 is released Nexus, Note and S2 will be even cheaper.
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Hmm. Point no. C.
samsung wants the note to be competitive with the quad cores.
Its just because its getting older, it will just keep going down in price now until they stop making them.
You actually have no idea WHO has reduced the price... you make an assumption that it is Samsung.. but it is just that, an assumption.
I would expect that the phones are somewhat cheaper to manufacturer now, given that there has been 8 months for yield improvement, but there is no evidence or reason for this itself to be reflected in the asp (average selling price).. Samsung should, if they at all possibly can, use any yield enhancement cost benefits to boost their margin, not support lower wholesale prices.
Resellers are in business to make money, and the general nature of value items like the Note is to milk the market at the highest price possible, then gradually reduce the price as interest falls to keep the sales volume high on a weekly/monthly basis .. ultimately, the low price is set by wholesale + minimum margin...
So, the pricing curve of the Note is highly typical of most other consumer devices like phones selling in high volume.
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This is definitely a FANTASTIC device in the market as of today. But I wonder why samsung reduced its price sooooo much?
Its just a little higher than s2 so obviously people will opt for Note than s2 (if size doesn't matter to them).
But where is the catch? I mean why they suddenly reduced Note's price THAT MUCH? From 800+ US dollars to 500+? Isn't that "to good to be true" deal?
I wonder what's samsung motive behind reducing Note's price.
a) Have they started making models with cheaper material now to fit in the latter price?
b) They reduced the price to justify their huge predicted target sales for Note?
c) Wanted people to stop buying s2 so that Note can get the lime light?
d) Reduced price so that people go for Note and by the time when enough sales have been made, they will lauch s3.
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Yeah, from the time when i bought it for like 580$ (which is quite cheap at that time) and now it is like around 530... It was just more than a month, a little bit quickly but i accept that fact, and will not regret that
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samsung wants the note to be competitive with the quad cores.
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But is Note competitive enough to compete with the incoming Quad Core phones?
Simple: Product Cycle Theory
First level was attracting the "I must have it quickly cause its the latest technology" type of costumers with heavy advertising program. They sold enough to this type of consumers with high prices. Advertising and R&D costs have been gained by these costumers. Then they realized that sells are getting slower. Second level started. With lower prices attracting leftover costumers. They dont have to put high prices cause they already gained R&D costs. With low production costs (New Average Cost= Average Total Cost - Average R&D Cost - Average Ads Cost) profits are coming again with increased sales. They will release Quadcore SGS3 soon and a new product cycle will begin. After a while SGN will pass to third level "downfall" Sorry for this boring information I couldnt stop myself
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everything drops, new tech comes out making the older stuff, like the note go down in value to be able to compete in the market
I think smart money is on a note 2 or note plus being announced soon and they're vacating the price point that the new note will occupy.
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But is Note competitive enough to compete with the incoming Quad Core phones?
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good question
was £515 when I bought it, over 6 months ago. Is now £410 from the same site. seems normal amount of price drop to me.
Simple laws of supply and demand
Simple economics 101...supply and demand. It was a way overpriced phone to begin with. The actually technology that went into this phone probably costs no more than 200-250 dollars to manufacture. It originally sold at nearly 900 dollars. That's what...a 400% mark up? Outrageous.
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I think smart money is on a note 2 or note plus being announced soon and they're vacating the price point that the new note will occupy.
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I doubt they would be launching Note 2 anywhere soon.
i paid $880AU for my note in november last year.
now i can pick one up for $510AU.
htc have a quad core phone for around $570 for the same site, so no one would ever buy a note if it cost more than the htc one x.
plus, samsung announced the s3 in 2 days time.
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i paid $880AU for my note in november last year.
now i can pick one up for $510AU.
htc have a quad core phone for around $570 for the same site, so no one would ever buy a note if it cost more than the htc one x.
plus, samsung announced the s3 in 2 days time.
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Although Samsung has tried its best to create a new category (Phablet) by bringing NOTE into the market. But still people will compare it with current available mobile phones in market to build their decision for a purchase. This will only change once more phablets start entering the market from competition, only then can the comparison between phablets start.
Newegg has it right now for $499, or a bundle with a BT headset for $515 and a $20 MIR.
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Newegg has it right now for $499, or a bundle with a BT headset for $515 and a $20 MIR.
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What's the procdeure to purchase goods from Newegg?
And how do one pays? as in, online or Cash-on-delivery?
If you are paying online and upon delivery the product turns out to be faulty or not good.. What to do then? Replace?
As with on delivery, you have upper hand that if the product didnt turn out to be good or the one you ordered.. you can easily refuse to accept it.
Google may be readying a revamped model of the middle sibling in its Nexus line of Android devices for as early as the first quarter of 2013, if the supply-chain snoops at Taiwanese tech news site DigiTimes are correct.
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http://www.theregister.co.uk/2012/12/20/google_nexus7_rumors_persist/
Well what do we think?
Not thinking much of anything to be honest.. good for them? I'll remain happy with my 1st gen 16Gb mobel.
A cheaper version is always welcome.
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I could see the Nexus tablet line having the following:
A cheap ($99 seems low, but okay) 7". A higher quality 7" ($200-$250?). High quality 10".
While I have little money for toys, and I like paying low prices as much as anyone, I don't necessarily want a Nexus device that's had every cost corner cut. Especially things like storage and ram, which the current Nexus 7 seems to have slow parts.
Perhaps Google is trying to entice the masses further by lowering the price of a decent device, but I hope they realize that you can't make money off being the cheapest on the market. You might sell more, but your margins are smaller and your support costs are way higher because of cut corners and the sheer amount of people owning one.
I just see a lot of people being disappointed with this new device as you know they will compare it with the first Gen n7. Sometimes cheaper isn't always better.
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I can see why they would want to offer a cheaper N7-type device, but my biggest concern is supply chain issues. The current Nexus 7 is the only device that hasn't had any severe supply issues from the play store in the past few months.... but that's probably mostly because it's already been out for 6 months.
I'm happy enough for my current N7
We have more than enough cheap low-end tablets on the market nowadays..
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I think our N7 is good enough. I don't think I want to replace it.
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They better not! I just bought this thing!
With cortex a8 and adreno 200...
They probably saved money on production by leaving off the bluetooth hardware, since it doesn't work with their software anyways.
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They probably saved money on production by leaving off the bluetooth hardware, since it doesn't work with their software anyways.
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Lol I could`nt agree more
Tapped out from my sexy nexus 7
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I think our N7 is good enough. I don't think I want to replace it ...
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That's one way to gain market share, N7 were practically sold out everywhere in town over the holidays - DH got herself an iPad2 X'mas 2011 and the iOS people are releasing #5 in March or Spring of 2013 ...
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They better not! I just bought this thing!
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One would be paying more for a used/pre-owned N7 in excellent condition than buying the newest model, cheaper & slimmer. Hmmm :highfive: :fingers-crossed:
Maybe I should return mine to Staple as there is NO restocking fee & no questions asked - and wait for the newer one, 4.1.2 is such a mess in stock form anyway, LOL.
This reminds me of Samsung. They just made a half ass 4in budget phone to sell (S3 Mini). Their intent was to provide a phone for individuals who do not need a power house. The problem is the individuals who review phones like power houses. In many reviews Samsung was ridiculed for making the phone (even though it was meeting their intent). Hopefully Google is not treated the same way.
I can see the headline now, "iPad Mini ($349) dominates against new Google Nexus 7 ($99) .... Google stands no chance".
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This reminds me of Samsung. They just made a half ass 4in budget phone to sell (S3 Mini). Their intent was to provide a phone for individuals who do not need a power house. The problem is the individuals who review phones like power houses. In many reviews Samsung was ridiculed for making the phone (even though it was meeting their intent). Hopefully Google is not treated the same way.
I can see the headline now, "iPad Mini ($349) dominates against new Google Nexus 7 ($99) .... Google stands no chance".
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You're so right, I really like these Nexus phones (4 especially) and Galaxy S3, but the screen size puts me off - it's to big. Gimme a nice 4,2 inch with a decent resolution and I'm sold, but yes, such phones get lost in reviews because they don't stand a chance competing with 6" super triple HD 3D Gorilla Retina screen, 16core CPU and more RAM than my PC has.
I already have a decent tablet (N7), all I want is a decent dual, maybe cheap quad core, ~4" Nexus phone (once I got N7 I realized what android is really supposed to look like, because CM is not stable enough for me to run on my Xperia, so I kept it stock).
Of course Nexus line is only top notch, playing in the big league of S4 and iPhone6, so yes if they released a normal 4" nexus phone, headlines would say "where's your god now Android fans, always you have been bashing iPhones 'small' screen, now you're buying one yourself".
Nexus 7 is cheap enough as it is, we don't need another 800*480 7" tablet, that you can get in the Pharmacy (seriously, I saw some cheap tPads in local pharmacy), make a cheap Nexus phone!
Any news about it?
I'm on a low budget (about $150) and was hoping to get that cheap nexus 7 if it's released
It would be certainly better than those nasty china tablets..
99$?!
Cortex a8 + 512ram?
all i got from that site information is...... "made cheaper . thinner"............mmmmm wow
I'm really not understanding why so many people dislike the Nexus 4. Is it due to the terrible launch? And why keep comparing it to the Galaxy S3? Vanilla Android and Touchwiz both have their ups and downs. Lack of LTE really shouldnt be an issue unless you are on Verizon. For $350 (including tax of course ) you get a phone with a quadcore processor,Adreno 320 GPU, fully unlocked, and timely updates. Not to mention the amount of money you wiuld save getting a prepaid service no contract.
Sorry if I made a few mistakes. This is my first post in this forum and just received my Nexus 4. Any advice would be helpful for future threads.
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I'm really not understanding why so many people dislike the Nexus 4. Is it due to the terrible launch? And why keep comparing it to the Galaxy S3? Vanilla Android and Touchwiz both have their ups and downs. Lack of LTE really shouldnt be an issue unless you are on Verizon. For $350 (including tax of course ) you get a phone with a quadcore processor,Adreno 320 GPU, fully unlocked, and timely updates. Not to mention the amount of money you wiuld save getting a prepaid service no contract.
Sorry if I made a few mistakes. This is my first post in this forum and just received my Nexus 4. Any advice would be helpful for future threads.
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I don't think you're gonna find anyone who dislikes the Nexus 4 here bro
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I'm really not understanding why so many people dislike the Nexus 4. Is it due to the terrible launch? And why keep comparing it to the Galaxy S3? Vanilla Android and Touchwiz both have their ups and downs. Lack of LTE really shouldnt be an issue unless you are on Verizon. For $350 (including tax of course ) you get a phone with a quadcore processor,Adreno 320 GPU, fully unlocked, and timely updates. Not to mention the amount of money you wiuld save getting a prepaid service no contract.
Sorry if I made a few mistakes. This is my first post in this forum and just received my Nexus 4. Any advice would be helpful for future threads.
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I have a note 2, gs3, gs2, galaxy nexus, droid RAZR, iPhone 5, and a nexus 4. Guess which one is my favorite? The nexus 4!!
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No not here. I see it in numerous forums and threads. People bash the nexus 4 before they bash the S3. Its being compared to the S4 and that phone hasn't even came out yet!
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I don't know, people like to nitpick. My problem with the Nexus 4 is the same as the Galaxy Nexus I previously owned, its never 100% perfect, even after an RMA, there is still a bit of black light bleeding, a little bit of this, and a little bit of that, my wireless charging orb stopped working, had to RMA that, and so on, the Nexus line to me has always had some flaws in terms of hardware reliability.
That being said, the Nexus 4 is among the most beautiful phones, up there with the high end Xperia phones, and with amazing hardware, so asides from the hardware imperfections that one might encounter if unlucky, its a great phone.
I cannot think of a single phone other than the new Xperia (if aosp) that is coming out that I would trade my Nexus 4 for.
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No not here. I see it in numerous forums and threads. People bash the nexus 4 before they bash the S3. Its being compared to the S4 and that phone hasn't even came out yet!
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People bash it because they don't have it
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People bash it because they don't have it
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you just might be right sir. This is actually my first nexus device. I honestly was really close in getting the S3 until I saw this technological beauty being demoed at a local T-Mobile store. I swear I heard the phone calling my name lol. I immediately forgot all about the S3 and purchased the N4 full price.
Where is this so called backlash at?
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Jealousy is a powerful emotion.
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Well maybe not a backlash, but numerous threads and forums bash the nexus 4 as if Google completely messed up the device. Lack of LTE, lack of storage, glass back (guess they forgot about the "rave" reviews about iPhone 4 hardware), phone isn't thin enough, etc. CNET gave the phone a 3.5 out of 5 while S3 got a 4 out of 5. They gave the Galaxy Nexus a 5 out of 5 and the N4 is a complete upgrade! So a removable battery on Galaxy Nexus makes it perfect?
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Well maybe not a backlash, but numerous threads and forums bash the nexus 4 as if Google completely messed up the device. Lack of LTE, lack of storage, glass back (guess they forgot about the "rave" reviews about iPhone 4 hardware), phone isn't thin enough, etc. CNET gave the phone a 3.5 out of 5 while S3 got a 4 out of 5. They gave the Galaxy Nexus a 5 out of 5 and the N4 is a complete upgrade! So a removable battery on Galaxy Nexus makes it perfect?
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Don't pay attention to ***** ratings.. Nothing but a popularity contest.. Read the conclusions and see if the `cons' are anything you deem a problem. They focused on lack of LTE which is a legit gripe no matter how you spin it and how well HSPA+ works.. It is a technology that is sort expected now a days. But.. Unless it personally affects you.. Then it doesn't matter..
They also focused on calling it "uninspiring" "not expanding the Nexus brand".. That's when I stop taking them seriously.. When reviewers start getting all Martha Stewart on you.. It's time to stop reading.
It is just not flawless: back glass, which can crack in any day, noise from earpiece, non-vibrant screen - these spoil impression from the phone. It is my first nexus devise (I had xperia Ion before it) and I expected much more from it. I still haven't decided which one to sell - Nexus or Ion. Ion is flawless except that hardware quite old.
And that's what makes the difference between the nexus 4 and everything else. It will constantly get updates before any other phone. I can totally understand the glass back being fragile.
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I'm not trying to sound like a fanboy with this being my first nexus device. But honestly where else are you going to find an unlocked top tier phone with high end specs for $300. Put in perspective, a galaxy note 2 costs $299 with a two year contract. That's not even the full price of actual phone which is over $600. Over $600 for a phone that may or may not get Key Lime Pie. The nexus is guaranteed to get it and faster than anybody else.
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Have the thermal throttling issues been resolved since launch?
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I'm not trying to sound like a fanboy with this being my first nexus device. But honestly where else are you going to find an unlocked top tier phone with high end specs for $300. Put in perspective, a galaxy note 2 costs $299 with a two year contract. That's not even the full price of actual phone which is over $600. Over $600 for a phone that may or may not get Key Lime Pie. The nexus is guaranteed to get it and faster than anybody else.
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For me it doesn't matter how much it costs - I could buy iphone 5, but I don't like iOS. Price is just a good bonus. Having top hardware specs is good, but will not you feel disappointed if your back glass is cracked? And this state of waiting and checking if it is cracked or not... I hate being in situation like this. Maybe in some time I will stop thinking of this. Will not you be disappointed if you had another device with worse specs, but with so much better display?
That's a good question...
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I'm not saying cost should be a factor, but rather value. Look at what u get for such a low cost. I can understand the glass back being an issue. But I'd rather have the back shatter then the display itself. Luckily I have a case. Either way I would be disappointed. But which would really tick u off, shattering a phone $700 or shattering a phone $300?
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Have the thermal throttling issues been resolved since launch?
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I'm not sure as of yet. From what I've read it hasnt been that much of an issue unless you're doing extreme multitasking. So far Ive played Need for Speed Most Wanted while listening to music and it hasnt shut down yet. It does heat up though but not bad enough to shut the entire phone down.
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But which would really tick u off, shattering a phone $700 or shattering a phone $300?
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I spent 475$ for 16 GB version - that is its price in the UK. And i spent about 100$ for different accessories for it (skins, cases, etc). Maybe if lived in US and bought it for 300 I would have a different opinion
So Samsung today announced note 4's India launched for 58k ( around 950$) I was looking forward for note 4 but 58k is just tooo much, what do you guys think if Note 4 really worth 22k extra compare to Lg G3?
I seriously think not :/ Was confirmed to get a note 4 but now I am rather swinging towards iphone 6 only coz I need to upgrade within a week and N4 price is surely gona badly drop just like s5 but might take 1-2 months and I cant wait that long, this was really rubbish move from samsung 53k max n I would have got it, but 58k, no ty sammy.
The Lenovo Vibe Z2 pro is offering similar specs for almost half the price.
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The Lenovo Vibe Z2 pro is offering similar specs for almost half the price.
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Just looked at the specs, CPU + Screen Resolution are the same as LG G3, so wouldn't it experience the same lags and throttling?
Does G3 seriously lag? I have had 15-20 minutes with it in a local shop and did not see any kind of lag or so but may be since i am still using the 2 years old Note 2 and new generations phones like M8, S5 are very fast?
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Just looked at the specs, CPU + Screen Resolution are the same as LG G3, so wouldn't it experience the same lags and throttling?
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rohit_tripathi60 said:
Does G3 seriously lag? I have had 15-20 minutes with it in a local shop and did not see any kind of lag or so but may be since i am still using the 2 years old Note 2 and new generations phones like M8, S5 are very fast?
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I played also with a G3 in the shop, no lag on the home screen. But I just picked that info of the G3 under performing due to the under powered Snapdragon 801 for running a QHD resolution.
I think the note 4 is a way better choice then the G3. I have a G3, it is a very nice phone but from time to time I do get a lag... And coming from a note 3, I really miss my note 3...just my opinion... Hope this helps... BTW the G3 just got a work around the locked bootloader, called bump... So now you can flash twrp on it and flash roms when they come avaliable... But I'm still getting a note 4...
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Yeah since the Note 4 was announced on 4th Sep i was following each and every news on Internet and was very sure that i am getting the Note 4, I even gave away 2 invites of One Plus One. 58k for a Samsung phone is like 20 lakh for a Maruti, its good but for 22 lakh i can get a BMW ( apple)
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I seriously think not :/ Was confirmed to get a note 4 but now I am rather swinging towards iphone 6 only coz I need to upgrade within a week and N4 price is surely gona badly drop just like s5 but might take 1-2 months and I cant wait that long, this was really rubbish move from samsung 53k max n I would have got it, but 58k, no ty sammy.
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Yeah since the Note 4 was announced on 4th Sep i was following each and every news on Internet and was very sure that i am getting the Note 4, I even gave away 2 invites of One Plus One. 58k for a Samsung phone is like 20 lakh for a Maruti, its good but for 22 lakh i can get a BMW ( apple)
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Thats the reason it is being priced higher.. I am ok with it and imho it will sell more this time if they maintained that price cuz it ll totally beat the point of buying an iphone(at least in india where carrying an iphone equals a certain standard of living).. Now u can carry a premium device with actual features and innovations rather than being stuck with a boring and suffocating os just because u needed to show off.
And btw ur comparison is totally wrong here.. A bmw has better everything than a maruti.. While in this case the iPhone is inferior in every way.. If Note is a maruti then iphone is a ct 100 motorcycle priced as a bmw.
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that motorcycle comparison is so spot on lol
I tend to disagree about the pricing of NOTE 4 in India, iPhone 16GB costs 53,500 & 64GB 62,500. Apple has a very high brand value & is a status symbol in India. So cost is justified, though Note 4 is better phone overall, Samsung doesn't hold such brand value. So pricing is very bold & likely to drop very soon like the better Galaxy S5
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Thats the reason it is being priced higher.. I am ok with it and imho it will sell more this time if they maintained that price cuz it ll totally beat the point of buying an iphone(at least in india where carrying an iphone equals a certain standard of living).. Now u can carry a premium device with actual features and innovations rather than being stuck with a boring and suffocating os just because u needed to show off.
And btw ur comparison is totally wrong here.. A bmw has better everything than a maruti.. While in this case the iPhone is inferior in every way.. If Note is a maruti then iphone is a ct 100 motorcycle priced as a bmw.
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Yes it is worth. I am upgrade from G3 to Note 4 and feeling stunning. Good screen, fast proccessor, stunning battery life. The LG G3 have only good screen but the battery is bad and very laggy because 2K screen in the 801 snapdragon chip.
Thats my point it has a brand value because it is priced higher..At least in India nobody gives a [email protected]#k about the stock value or the worth of the company or that it is an American product. Apple has a name here because they demand a premium for their devices. Direct competition of Note 4 is iphone 6 plus which is being priced at 62500 for the 16gb version. Galaxy Note series has always been a premium segment device. And sammy has enough brand value to price it the way they have. Like i said before,IF and only IF they maintained the same price,then Note 4 will sell more.It will give you the satisfaction of carrying a premium device and keeping ur standards(showing off) in the society at the same time it will be an actual smartphone. And i dont think they ll lower the price too much this time.Since last year it was due to the online retailers that the priced dipped so low.Its all over the news now a days.Sammy,LG,Sony,Htc,etc will all take strict measures to retain the minimum selling prices due to the backlash they faced from the brick and mortar store owners this year.
Fair enough, but Samsung is no Apple and has a very good record on price drop. Day 5 from launch u can expect the a bit 10 % price drop. i am going to wait or get it from Dubai where its priced around 46k
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Thats my point it has a brand value because it is priced higher..At least in India nobody gives a [email protected]#k about the stock value or the worth of the company or that it is an American product. Apple has a name here because they demand a premium for their devices. Direct competition of Note 4 is iphone 6 plus which is being priced at 62500 for the 16gb version. Galaxy Note series has always been a premium segment device. And sammy has enough brand value to price it the way they have. Like i said before,IF and only IF they maintained the same price,then Note 4 will sell more.It will give you the satisfaction of carrying a premium device and keeping ur standards(showing off) in the society at the same time it will be an actual smartphone. And i dont think they ll lower the price too much this time.Since last year it was due to the online retailers that the priced dipped so low.Its all over the news now a days.Sammy,LG,Sony,Htc,etc will all take strict measures to retain the minimum selling prices due to the backlash they faced from the brick and mortar store owners this year.
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Fair enough, but Samsung is no Apple and has a very good record on price drop. Day 5 from launch u can expect the a bit 10 % price drop. i am going to wait or get it from Dubai where its priced around 46k
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Just goes to show how things are valued in different countries. I think the iPhone is a piece of overpriced crap and the only status I think it implies is that people have no clue how misinformed they are for buying it. But that's me... And I'm so glad Samsung isn't Apple.
Also, if status is what you crave, wouldn't the higher priced item increase the status of the symbol?
If that would have been the case I would be using an apple device but I don't because I know they are way overpriced for the value they provide. The problem with samsung is different though 800$ around 49k was good price for the note.
Anyway samsung is on destructive path with rise of Chinese players in India and Their bad pricing and availability mess
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Just goes to show how things are valued in different countries. I think the iPhone is a piece of overpriced crap and the only status I think it implies is that people have no clue how misinformed they are for buying it. But that's me... And I'm so glad Samsung isn't Apple.
Also, if status is what you crave, wouldn't the higher priced item increase the status of the symbol?
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Hi I have a Note 3 with me and I got a Note 4 during Cyber monday and I also have a T-Mobile gc for 100 off. Also T-Mobile is buying back my Note 3 for 325. So my cost for the Note 4 is 325 (650-325 Trade in credit) I am confused now as is it worth it to spend the extra money now. Can people who have upgraded from Note 3 to Note 4 comment on this.
A couple of things about me.
Wife has a iphone 6 plus and we take pics with the 6 plus so I can live without a not so gr8 camers.
I dont game at all.
I love the Spen and take notes also browse the web a lot o my phone.
I went from the 3 to 4. The s pen on the 4 is better. I draw etc and it works so much nicer. I also like the upgraded software for the pen.
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That's good to know, I don't draw but I like to write with the pen. other than that how is the rest. The writing is really nice on the Note 3 also. Overall how is tue performance of Note 4 805 processor?
Another thing is we are also going to get 64 bit processor Soon- And the Note 5 next year will definitely have 64 bit processor. So I am really confused is it worth while to wait or upgrade and more over my Note 3 is in good condition.
Well all I can say is everything I do feels faster. Chromecast video play better. I do a mix of reading, watching videos, games, drawing, writing and replaced my PC with the note line. The Note 4 only has 2 things I don't like. I don't need QHD, it makes on screen elements a little to small in Ingress. The other is they didn't keep the temperature sensor. Other then those two minor issues I can't find issue with it.
I can't wait to see some custom ROMs over the next few months. I have owned a lot of phones and tablets and by far the Note 4 is my favorite. I do use Nova launcher since I can't stand the limits in TW.
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Well I know the s6 was supposed to cone with new chip set but they stopped that. Nobody knows what note 5 will come with. 32 works great so is 64 gonna be better. Who knows. Samsung don't even know yet. They still have no real idea till they fix issues with s6 and then maybe focus on 5.0 for note 4 then get back to building note 5
BAD ASS NOTE 4
It's probably an unpopular opinion to have in this forum, but i'm a little disappointed I spent the money to upgrade. It's not to say the Note 4 isn't a great phone, out of anything out there right now it's an easy pick for me, but it is in no way a significant upgrade from the 3. There are some very slight improvements, the screen for one. The screen on the 3 was already stellar, so it's hard to achieve a major upgrade here. The camera gets slightly more detail, although the photos are noisier and have more sharpening added to them (possibly the reason for the added noise?). The battery life is worse, not by a significant amount, but it is still worse for me. I notice no speed difference at all, if one exists it's too slight for my level of perception. The speaker is worse, maybe not in quality, but in placement. The build is nicer, definitely feels higher quality, but this is perception too, the Note 3 was already proven to be quite tough. I keep my phone in a case, so that's ultimately not much of a benefit to me either. The fingerprint scanner I don't use, tried it and it often required multiple swipes, seems easier to just enter a code. The new white/cyan color scheme is atrocious, and I don't know what the hell they were thinking doing this on a phone with an AMOLED screen. Black backgrounds make MUCH more sense, not just to take advantage of high AMOLED contrast, but to conserve battery power also.
All in all, I regret spending $400 to upgrade, but the Note 4 is still an awesome phone. If I had been upgrading from an S4 or a Note 2, something along those lines, I think I would have a lot less regret about the money spent. Ultimately it depends on how much you want the slight improvements.
I came from an s4. Not a note 3.
But, I can tell you this phone is awesome. It's the "it" phone. And, will be for a long time.
Take the money for the note 3 and take the plunge.
My path has been g1and a wing, g2, s2, s3, s4, note 4.
I wouldn't have considered a note up until now because of the lack of development.
But, now. It's awesome. And, we are so lucky it's not locked down like the other carriers.
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We won't hate you because you admitted you have an iPhone.
Android_Monsters said:
I came from an s4. Not a note 3.
But, I can tell you this phone is awesome. It's the "it" phone. And, will be for a long time.
Take the money for the note 3 and take the plunge.
My path has been g1and a wing, g2, s2, s3, s4, note 4.
I wouldn't have considered a note up until now because of the lack of development.
But, now. It's awesome. And, we are so lucky it's not locked down like the other carriers.
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We won't hate you because you admitted you have an iPhone.
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We have the iPhone and there are some things which the iPhone is better, but again per me it all depends on what you do with the phone..
T mobile offered you 325 for your note 3? Last time I checked it was 190.
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T mobile offered you 325 for your note 3? Last time I checked it was 190.
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Yes I believe it is still there and also sprint offers the same you may match the trade in value with them.
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It's probably an unpopular opinion to have in this forum, but i'm a little disappointed I spent the money to upgrade. It's not to say the Note 4 isn't a great phone, out of anything out there right now it's an easy pick for me, but it is in no way a significant upgrade from the 3. There are some very slight improvements, the screen for one. The screen on the 3 was already stellar, so it's hard to achieve a major upgrade here. The camera gets slightly more detail, although the photos are noisier and have more sharpening added to them (possibly the reason for the added noise?). The battery life is worse, not by a significant amount, but it is still worse for me. I notice no speed difference at all, if one exists it's too slight for my level of perception. The speaker is worse, maybe not in quality, but in placement. The build is nicer, definitely feels higher quality, but this is perception too, the Note 3 was already proven to be quite tough. I keep my phone in a case, so that's ultimately not much of a benefit to me either. The fingerprint scanner I don't use, tried it and it often required multiple swipes, seems easier to just enter a code. The new white/cyan color scheme is atrocious, and I don't know what the hell they were thinking doing this on a phone with an AMOLED screen. Black backgrounds make MUCH more sense, not just to take advantage of high AMOLED contrast, but to conserve battery power also.
All in all, I regret spending $400 to upgrade, but the Note 4 is still an awesome phone. If I had been upgrading from an S4 or a Note 2, something along those lines, I think I would have a lot less regret about the money spent. Ultimately it depends on how much you want the slight improvements.
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Thanks for taking time to explain it. I do feel same but I also think by upgrading we will have a newer device and also the warranty is now extended to one more year. Look at this this way say if we were to sell our note 3 end of 2015 we would hardly get anything out of it but by selling note 4 at least we get 300 so our upgrade might be only 25..... That is where I have the whole confusion.
My Note 3 battery barely makes it to the end of the day. I am not rooted and don't want to as I use a lot of soft card for cash back. I definitely don't want to loose that.
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Yes I believe it is still there and also sprint offers the same you may match the trade in value with them.
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Oh right this must be for folks that are not existing t mobile customers .
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Oh right this must be for folks that are not existing t mobile customers .
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Nope I am an existing customer. Did you check online.. What device do you have.
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Nope I am an existing customer. Did you check online.. What device do you have.
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I had checked. I upgraded from a note 3 to a note 4 a few weeks back actually. That's why I sold mine on craigs list for funnily enough $325 as T Mobile were offering peanuts.
By the way well worth the upgrade. Think of it a refinement at its best.
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I had checked. I upgraded from a note 3 to a note 4 a few weeks back actually. That's why I sold mine on craigs list for funnily enough $325 as T Mobile were offering peanuts.
By the way well worth the upgrade. Think of it a refinement at its best.
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How much did you pay and how many days has it been.
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How much did you pay and how many days has it been.
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11/13 I beleive it was bought usual price whatever it was. I think 750 plus tax.
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T mobile offered you 325 for your note 3? Last time I checked it was 190.
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Yeah my friend just got a good deal I think is was a little bit less but I guessing phone still sells
BAD ASS NOTE 4
steve_togo said:
Thanks for taking time to explain it. I do feel same but I also think by upgrading we will have a newer device and also the warranty is now extended to one more year. Look at this this way say if we were to sell our note 3 end of 2015 we would hardly get anything out of it but by selling note 4 at least we get 300 so our upgrade might be only 25..... That is where I have the whole confusion.
My Note 3 battery barely makes it to the end of the day. I am not rooted and don't want to as I use a lot of soft card for cash back. I definitely don't want to loose that.
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Good points, resale and warranty are valid reasons to trade up. My comments really focused on the complaints that I have with the phone as most other people have covered the high points, and of course there are many. It's subjective, obviously, but I don't think anything else out there at the moment surpasses it as a complete package.
I never owned a note 3 before. But I do own a 2012 Note 10.1 which I love very much. This Note 4 is even faster than my tablet and it really is impressive with everything I can do with it.
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